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koan
post Feb 28 2009, 08:36 PM
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Hi

Zocalo is a lightweight web feed reader for the Sharp ROM. It is designed for the PDA form factor, i.e. make sensible use of a small screen, use keyboard or stylus to navigate everything, don't use a lot of memory or disk space. It can handle RSS, RSS RDF and Atom.

I have been testing Zocalo for a few months now and it seems stable. There are a few minor issues that I want to improve in future releases and I have a lot of ideas for features that I want to implement. I plan to port to the other Zaurus Linuxes.

Please find more details at the Zocalo web page.

This image is linked to a screenshot of the latest version on my website:
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koan
post Sep 19 2010, 10:26 AM
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Zocalo 1.9 is now available.

The main enhancement for this version is support for IDN (Internationalised Domain Names). However, I only found one IDN feed to test with, at http://アニメ.com. It seems to work fine and I have no reason to believe that any other IDN will be different, but I would be a lot happier if I had been able to test with lots of other feeds. Let me know if it doesn't work for any other feeds.

Zocalo parses out useless HTML in feed descriptions. These tags are usually images that Zocalo doesn't download, advertisements or other things that QTextBrowser won't display anyway. This also saves on disk space. I added script, noscript and HTML comments to this version. I noticed that アニメ.com stuffs a lot of broken HTML and also tables into the description - it's not a good feed for testing unfortunately. Tables cause trouble with QTextBrowser so in the next release tables will also be parsed out.

This should also cure the problem jakfish was seeing - PM me if it doesn't.
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post Sep 20 2010, 05:15 AM
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Success, success. SL-C1000 installs Zocalo 1.9 without complaint. It's a great program and thank you very much for it. It's fast, updates quickly, and I've gotten no errors.

One small thing: the Fn-U or Fn-D doesn't move the selected feed for organization. But the tap-hold-up or down does work.

Up until now, I've uses Mobireader, which downloads the entire articles from the feed for copying to PDAs/phones. Is it possible to do the same with Zocalo, download the full articles from a given feed? That would make off-line reading a real pleasure, since going to the full article through Netfront can take time to load.

Again, thank you for such hard work,
Jake



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post Sep 20 2010, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE(jakfish @ Sep 20 2010, 11:15 PM) *
One small thing: the Fn-U or Fn-D doesn't move the selected feed for organization.


It works on my 750 and 3200.

Anyone else having this problem ?
Could it be that the 1000 has different keycodes ?

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Up until now, I've uses Mobireader, which downloads the entire articles from the feed for copying to PDAs/phones.


If I understand correctly, you want to scrape a web page: download the HTML, style sheets, javascripts, images and save it all ?

I think that sounds like a lot of work. Zocalo would have to parse an HTML file to work out which external files to download. I wouldn't even dream of writing an HTML parser, I would have to find an external library to do it. It doesn't really sound like it is in the scope of a feed reader.

I'm sorry, I have other Zaurus projects that need my attention and I'm not so interested in offline web browsing. I could look at writing a "bookmarks" file for links you are interested. You could write a Perl script by yourself to scrape each link when you are online again using curl. Or how about writing a scraper in Ruby/QT that could read this file, select a link to scrape from the GUI and then open it in NetFront ?

By the way, some websites don't like being scraped. They will serve a 404 and blacklist your IP address or even your IP block. It happened to me; I wrote a recursive scraping script some time before I realised that scraping was frowned upon. Fortunately for me I moved house and ISP, not so lucky for the next guy.

You can already send a link from Zocalo to another application by qcop. I could add a feature for copying the link to the clipboard or beam it via IRDA; if that would be useful.
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post Sep 20 2010, 06:34 PM
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I think Mobireader is a much more basic program and downloads the text only, but in its entirety. Unfortunately, it doesn't have a Linux version, but on Windows, users install a desktop Mobireader, set up their feeds, then the whole article of a given feed is synced to the pda/phone in a *.prc file (OpieReader reads them perfectly)

It would be as if zocalo pulled in the complete article rather than the first paragraph or whatever the rss gives out.

Sorry not to be clearer,
Jake
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post Sep 21 2010, 12:34 AM
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QUOTE(jakfish @ Sep 21 2010, 12:34 PM) *
I think Mobireader is a much more basic program and downloads the text only, but in its entirety.


If you could get the link from Zocalo, you could download the HTML file using curl and then convert it to a suitable format for OpieReader (for example). Without style sheets it would probably be best to convert to some variant of plain text/rich text
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koan   Zocalo Web Feed Reader (sharp Rom)   Feb 28 2009, 08:36 PM
speculatrix   woo, looks very smart, am impressed! am inter...   Mar 27 2009, 03:58 PM
koan   I have just uploaded a new version of Zocalo, vers...   Mar 29 2009, 06:10 PM
MaBo   Hi, Thanks for zocalo. This is at the moment my fa...   May 7 2009, 01:17 AM
matthis   Wooh, nice to see new & good software for the ...   May 7 2009, 06:48 AM
koan   QUOTE(MaBo @ May 7 2009, 06:17 PM) Hi, Th...   May 7 2009, 07:47 PM
MaBo   HI, The reason for the images question, was that I...   May 28 2009, 07:42 AM
koan   Hi Zocalo 1.2 is now available. Screenshots at th...   Jan 21 2010, 01:40 PM
koan   Zocalo 1.3 is now available to download. The new ...   Mar 10 2010, 03:31 PM
koan   Zocalo 1.4 was released, see the above links for d...   Apr 10 2010, 02:00 AM
koan   Zocalo 1.5 is now available, see the links above f...   May 24 2010, 12:42 PM
xamindar   Thanks, I guess it is about time to check this pro...   May 24 2010, 09:47 PM
koan   QUOTE(xamindar @ May 25 2010, 03:47 PM) I...   May 25 2010, 04:14 AM
koan   You can get a nice RSS feed from Google News 1. G...   May 28 2010, 01:24 PM
xamindar   Thanks again for this rss reader. It has replaced ...   Jun 13 2010, 02:27 PM
koan   QUOTE(xamindar @ Jun 14 2010, 08:27 AM) T...   Jun 14 2010, 11:53 AM
xamindar   QUOTE(koan @ Jun 14 2010, 12:53 PM) I...   Jun 19 2010, 11:17 PM
koan   QUOTE(xamindar @ Jun 20 2010, 05:17 PM) T...   Jun 20 2010, 12:24 PM
xamindar   Ok, thanks for that explanation. I should have pai...   Jun 20 2010, 11:42 PM
koan   QUOTE(xamindar @ Jun 21 2010, 05:42 PM) i...   Jun 21 2010, 12:38 AM
xamindar   QUOTE(koan @ Jun 21 2010, 01:38 AM) Searc...   Jun 21 2010, 02:56 AM
koan   QUOTE(xamindar @ Jun 21 2010, 08:56 PM) W...   Jun 21 2010, 11:54 AM
xamindar   QUOTE(koan @ Jun 21 2010, 12:54 PM) No, I...   Jun 21 2010, 11:04 PM
koan   Zocalo 1.6 is now available. This should address ...   Jul 2 2010, 01:46 PM
xamindar   Thanks for the update. It seemed to be working bet...   Jul 3 2010, 12:24 AM
koan   It looks like your article store is corrupted. By...   Jul 3 2010, 02:06 AM
koan   Version 1.7 is now available. xamindar pointed ou...   Jul 12 2010, 01:47 PM
xamindar   A couple issues I am noticing in this version. Fir...   Jul 20 2010, 04:43 PM
koan   Thanks for the report. Unfortunately, both these t...   Jul 21 2010, 02:19 AM
xamindar   QUOTE(koan @ Jul 21 2010, 03:19 AM) . Are...   Jul 21 2010, 03:32 AM
koan   QUOTE(xamindar @ Jul 21 2010, 09:32 PM) E...   Jul 21 2010, 12:32 PM
xamindar   QUOTE(koan @ Jul 21 2010, 01:32 PM) Try c...   Jul 21 2010, 01:59 PM
Frederic Bergeron   QUOTE(xamindar @ Jul 21 2010, 08:32 PM) A...   Jul 21 2010, 09:36 PM
koan   It won't run from the icon in portrait mode fo...   Jul 22 2010, 10:04 AM
xamindar   I could never get version 1.7 to work properly. I ...   Jul 25 2010, 01:58 AM
xamindar   QUOTE(xamindar @ Jul 25 2010, 02:58 AM) I...   Jul 26 2010, 04:44 PM
jcabrer   This looks like a missing configuration file, or m...   Jul 26 2010, 04:18 PM
koan   Just a quick note to say that I haven't stoppe...   Aug 8 2010, 02:56 PM
koan   Finally, I am pleased to announce version 1.8 is n...   Sep 1 2010, 11:50 AM
xamindar   Great! Thank you! It seems to work great n...   Sep 1 2010, 01:12 PM
koan   Thanks, I can confirm that "OK" doesn...   Sep 1 2010, 01:35 PM
koan   Update: Zocalo 1.8.1 with OK button fix, tested on...   Sep 2 2010, 11:37 AM
MaBo   Woow!! It works great with the OK and Canc...   Sep 3 2010, 02:45 AM
jakfish   Many thanks for an intriguing application. I...   Sep 13 2010, 06:14 AM
koan   QUOTE(jakfish @ Sep 14 2010, 12:14 AM) co...   Sep 13 2010, 09:24 AM
jakfish   Thank you for your fast reply. I'm looking fo...   Sep 13 2010, 09:28 AM
koan   Zocalo 1.9 is now available. The main enhancement...   Sep 19 2010, 10:26 AM
jakfish   Success, success. SL-C1000 installs Zocalo 1.9 wi...   Sep 20 2010, 05:15 AM
koan   QUOTE(jakfish @ Sep 20 2010, 11:15 PM) On...   Sep 20 2010, 11:16 AM
jakfish   I think Mobireader is a much more basic program an...   Sep 20 2010, 06:34 PM
koan   QUOTE(jakfish @ Sep 21 2010, 12:34 PM) I ...   Sep 21 2010, 12:34 AM
jakfish   It's a dilemma, I think, with a lot of RSS Rea...   Sep 21 2010, 06:49 AM
koan   QUOTE(jakfish @ Sep 22 2010, 12:49 AM) It...   Sep 22 2010, 12:56 AM
xamindar   I think Zacolo is fine with the functionality it c...   Sep 22 2010, 01:33 AM
jakfish   I agree completely: Zocalo is a wondrous app, maki...   Sep 22 2010, 04:55 AM
koan   QUOTE(jakfish @ Sep 22 2010, 10:55 PM) I...   Sep 22 2010, 11:50 AM
jakfish   Re: GPRS--I've yet to figure out bluetooth (I ...   Sep 22 2010, 12:11 PM
jakfish   Hi, koan, I'd love to make a backup of my rss...   Sep 26 2010, 05:50 PM
koan   At the moment there is no convenient way to create...   Sep 27 2010, 07:58 AM
jakfish   This is a big help; thank you. I have about 20 fe...   Sep 27 2010, 12:42 PM
xamindar   QUOTE(jakfish @ Sep 27 2010, 01:42 PM) in...   Sep 28 2010, 02:13 AM
jakfish   That's a terrible story. And if your stuff is...   Sep 28 2010, 05:41 AM
jakfish   Hi, koan, Just a follow-up to our discussion abou...   Oct 23 2010, 06:03 PM
koan   QUOTE(jakfish @ Oct 24 2010, 12:03 PM) Ju...   Oct 24 2010, 12:39 AM
jakfish   Thanks again for another fast response. Helvetica...   Oct 24 2010, 05:54 AM
koan   QUOTE(jakfish @ Oct 24 2010, 11:54 PM) In...   Oct 24 2010, 01:50 PM
jakfish   I guess since I use arial in all my documents, I l...   Oct 25 2010, 04:36 AM
koan   QUOTE(jakfish @ Oct 25 2010, 10:36 PM) I...   Oct 25 2010, 07:19 AM
jakfish   Let me know what I can test. Jake   Oct 25 2010, 07:26 AM
koan   Hi Guys, Zocalo 2.0 is available. I was planning ...   Dec 18 2010, 01:46 AM
jakfish   An excellent, excellent update. All is well w/ th...   Dec 19 2010, 11:26 AM
koan   Thanks. I can't take any credit for any speed ...   Dec 19 2010, 11:47 AM


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