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markedman
post Oct 16 2004, 04:10 PM
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any price yet
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post Oct 16 2004, 06:08 PM
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i like the idea of a HD instead of messing with sd cards i've gone though 2 scan disk cards (now in buy kingston) and formating to ext3 is a pain.

yes what is the price and when will we be able to buy from over seas.
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post Oct 16 2004, 06:45 PM
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Does anyone notice the extra tab in the SL3000 System Info screen?
http://www.mobilenews.ne.jp/news/2004/10/15/zau/15.gif

Its says "Device" in japanese. This is the same tab found in the SL-6000:
http://www.bargainpda.com/assets/sharp/zau...00/usb_c860.jpg

Wouldn't this indicate USB host functionality?
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post Oct 17 2004, 12:03 AM
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QUOTE(xiaman @ Oct 17 2004, 02:08 PM)
i like the idea of a HD instead of messing with sd cards i've gone though 2 scan disk cards (now in buy kingston) and formating to ext3 is a pain.

yes what is the price and when will we be able to buy from over seas.

I agree, I would love to have a hard disk in my C760 without losing my CF wireless card. It also means you can use a swap file/partition without destroying flash memory.
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post Oct 17 2004, 12:18 AM
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Wouldn't this indicate USB host functionality?


I'm guessing it has USB Host, but they arn't making a song and dance about it because it doesn't actually support anything (Yet).

Has anyone got any useful functionality from the USB host on the 6000 ?

Looking throught he 6000 thread, the only thing I could spot was an Archos Hard drive...
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post Oct 17 2004, 06:44 AM
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QUOTE(kopsis @ Oct 16 2004, 03:04 PM)
QUOTE(raybert @ Oct 16 2004, 08:33 AM)
So, I'm interested now in hearing more about the HD in the C3000: what kind is it and can it be upgraded to, say, 30 or 40 GB?  If anyone hears anything regarding this please post what you hear.

The HD is almost certainly a 4GB Hitachi 1" drive. We won't know if it's in the CF card packaging or standalone until someone rips a C3000 apart, but I'm betting it's a CF card. If so, there's a good chance you could upgrade it to a 5GB Seagate but that's currently as far as you can go. To get 30 or 40 GB you need to go to a 1.8" drive and it's doubtful the C3000 went that route.

Yeah, I came to realize that after reading more posts. I guess it explains why they were able to keep the size about the same. That's disappointing (for me). I don't think I would upgrade from my C860 for that. Oh well; wait 'till next year (maybe?)...

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post Oct 17 2004, 08:04 AM
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QUOTE(raybert @ Oct 17 2004, 03:44 PM)
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So, I'm interested now in hearing more about the HD in the C3000: what kind is it and can it be upgraded to, say, 30 or 40 GB? 

There is a "Moore's law of memory capacity": quadruples every three years.

2004 C3000 with 4 GB
2007 C4000 with 16 GB
2010 C5000 with 64 GB

Well, retropolation does not fit exactly - integrated 1GB was not available in 2001

:-) hns
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post Oct 17 2004, 12:59 PM
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The thing that annoys me most about my C760 is the video chip. I have this great 640x480 screen and lots of storage via CF, but can only play video at 320x240! I should NEVER have to switch my beautiful screen into 320x240 mode (makes me feel like I bought a trashy CE brick every time).

There is a very big difference to how video looks at 240lines vs. full 480, especially when taken from HD/DVD source (like all my stuff is). 240 lines on a PDA was fine 5 years ago, but come on.

Has anyone heard if they upgraded the video chip in this unit to allow high-res playback of MPEG2/4 video? Anyone know what video chip is in there? It seems like they are going after the "PVP" market with this unit, with the hard drive, so hopefully they looked at video playback improvements when doing the engineering.

Of course, I'm still not entirely sure I would purchase this unit due to the bulk. I purchased the BL06 battery for my C760 so I could remove the bulky backplate and carry it in my business shirt pocket reasonably easily; and the 3000 appears to be even thicker than 760/860 with backplate.

I am extremely happy they are coming out with new models though, and don't care if they are Japan only (easy enough to import). It's good to see they are committed to continuing to design powerful Linux PDA's. It's not like there are many companies doing this, and most of them create obviously low quality units. Obviously Sharp is weak on the sofware end, but that's what we have the great Open Source develpment groups for. OE and pdaXrom teams...you guys RULE!
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post Oct 17 2004, 02:47 PM
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Sharp announced the new product "SL-C3000 " of Linux Zaurus which loads the harddisk driveof 4G. November 10th sale schedule. As for price, approximately 80,000 Yen.


Quoted from the japanese article link to on the first page of this thread... so about 80,000 yen = $732.575 US (from XE.com)
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post Oct 17 2004, 02:56 PM
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Price Japan are quoting 65000 yen ($595 US) as best price in Japan.

However by the time you add their fee, Japanese Tax, postage and credit card charge you get to $774 US (£430 UK).

That is of course assuming you don't get any import charges when it comes in. Always a possibility and varies wildly depending where you are. In the UK that could easily be £500 total.

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post Oct 17 2004, 03:09 PM
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Price quote from pricejapan.com... close to uczmeg's numbers:

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Roughly calculated price quote is as follows

The products price  YEN 65,000
Japan tax  YEN 3,250
Shipping cost  YEN 6,000
Our fee  YEN 4,000
Insurance  YEN 548
YEN Total  YEN 78,798

Above Yen amount is equivalent to
USD  734
EUR  591
AUD  1,011
HKD  5,752
SGD  1,228
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post Oct 18 2004, 01:21 AM
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QUOTE(Zuber @ Oct 16 2004, 05:07 AM)
I reckon I'll get one of those SD WiFi cards that is on the horizon.

They're not on the horizon - they're plastered all over eBay!

So does the 3000 support SDIO? And does the 860, for that matter? smile.gif
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post Oct 18 2004, 01:24 AM
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QUOTE(technojunkie @ Oct 15 2004, 08:55 AM)
A VGA screen would have been awesome as I love my ebooks

It has a VGA screen (640 x 480), as do all the clamshells.
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post Oct 18 2004, 01:29 AM
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QUOTE(offroadgeek @ Oct 17 2004, 11:09 PM)
Price quote from pricejapan.com... close to uczmeg's numbers:

My numbers included the PayPal charge, which is why they are a little higher.

I figure most people don't have a balance of $700 in their account (it would save $24). The other forms of payment incur charges elsewhere, but you pick those up yourself rather than paying PJ.
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post Oct 18 2004, 02:40 AM
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QUOTE(gromituk @ Oct 18 2004, 09:21 AM)
QUOTE(Zuber @ Oct 16 2004, 05:07 AM)
I reckon I'll get one of those SD WiFi cards that is on the horizon.

They're not on the horizon - they're plastered all over eBay!

So does the 3000 support SDIO? And does the 860, for that matter? smile.gif

The answer is simply 3000 is no different than 860 for that matter, it does not officially support SDIO and unofficially if 860 will, than so will 3000.
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