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amrein
post Oct 18 2004, 03:08 AM
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Any confirmation about the "perhaps" availability of the SL-C3000 in our countries?
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post Oct 18 2004, 03:47 AM
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QUOTE(amrein @ Oct 18 2004, 12:08 PM)
Any confirmation about the "perhaps" availability of the SL-C3000 in our countries?

For Europe we are currently investigating what we can do to get a CE approval (similar to FCC approval) for the devices (which is required for legaly operating and reselling) and provide standard warranty terms.

A first indication is 899€ (incl. 16% sales tax) for such a device (with 2 years warranty, repair center in Germany, CE approval). And availability by End of November.

But this works only if everything goes well. The first devices are available on Nov. 10th in Japan, have to be purchased, sent to Europe, run through the CE qualification lab, have to get their CE label, and might need an adapted english manual before they can be shipped out.

There is no indication that Sharp Europe will support that device.

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post Oct 18 2004, 06:07 AM
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QUOTE(gromituk @ Oct 18 2004, 09:21 AM)
They're not on the horizon - they're plastered all over eBay!

So does the 3000 support SDIO? And does the 860, for that matter? smile.gif

I wouldn't count on any zaurus supporting sdio in the near future. I read somewhere that they didn't even connect the pins used by sdio to the socket. And on top of that, the folks that hold the SD patent charge exorbitant licensing fees to developers wanting to develop for sdio.
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ashikase
post Oct 18 2004, 06:13 AM
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About SDIO:

C-guys ( http://www.c-guys.net/ ) have a c760/c860 driver for their SD WiFi card; unfortunately, they (still) haven't released the driver. They showed a Z using the card at CEATEC, so apparently the driver really does exist; I don't know what's taking so long for them to release it.

I have no idea if they plan to make a driver available for the C3k.

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post Oct 18 2004, 08:04 AM
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QUOTE(ashikase @ Oct 18 2004, 02:13 PM)
I don't know what's taking so long for them to release it.

Probably legal / red tape dry.gif
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post Oct 18 2004, 08:13 PM
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The HD is nice, but other than that this upgrade is pretty weak. I really was hoping for at least builtin bluetooth. I have no idea why bluetooth isn't that big in Japan. I use it FAR more than WiFi on handhelds because it's battery friendly and with EDGE I get great download speeds.

Like a couple others said before, I think I'm just going to wait for HP to finally release a clamshell PPC. Hopefully it'll allow dual-boots (I think M$ crushed that ability with WinCE 3) since I'd rather use PPC to run most apps and to sync PIMs to my Mac. I'd want the dual-boot ability with Linux, though, so I can hack in the bash shell and mess around with some OSS apps.

If Nokia would ever fix their horrible Contacts application, support Perl/Python like the advertised months ago, and if iSync would support Nokia phones, I would also consider a Nokia 9500 or 9300.

Sharp looks like it's going the way of Sony... so my C760 will likely be my last Z. At least it's got a lot of life left in it and hopefully ROMs and apps will continue to get better over time.
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post Oct 18 2004, 08:25 PM
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More on SDIO:

It appears that there definitely is SDIO support on the C3k:

http://computers.livedoor.com/livedoor/mob...0sl3000/203.jpg

The above picture is from one of the C3k presentations; it shows a bunch of cards that can be used with the new Z (network, wifi, modem). Notice that one is an SD card (specifically, an AirH" PHS modem card, which also works with the A300).

Of course, like the Cx60 models, having SDIO capability doesn't mean much without drivers.

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post Oct 18 2004, 10:58 PM
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QUOTE(dhns @ Oct 18 2004, 12:47 PM)
QUOTE(amrein @ Oct 18 2004, 12:08 PM)
Any confirmation about the "perhaps" availability of the SL-C3000 in our countries?

For Europe we are currently investigating what we can do to get a CE approval (similar to FCC approval) for the devices (which is required for legaly operating and reselling) and provide standard warranty terms.
...

I was asking for Sharp official selling and support wink.gif
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post Oct 19 2004, 12:59 AM
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QUOTE(ccrandal69 @ Oct 19 2004, 05:13 AM)
Like a couple others said before, I think I'm just going to wait for HP to finally release a clamshell PPC. Hopefully it'll allow dual-boots (I think M$ crushed that ability with WinCE 3) since I'd rather use PPC to run most apps and to sync PIMs to my Mac. I'd want the dual-boot ability with Linux, though, so I can hack in the bash shell and mess around with some OSS apps.

Dual boot on a PDA? I think that doesn't make any sense if you want to use both systems productively.
I agree, the C3k isn't worth an upgrade from a clamshell (as it is lacking built in wifi) , but I'm happy Sharp is still using Linux on their PMTs and the C3k is a bigger step from the C860 than the C860 was from the C760...
Plus I like the design ;-)
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post Oct 19 2004, 01:00 AM
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QUOTE(amrein @ Oct 19 2004, 07:58 AM)
I was asking for Sharp official selling and support

What's the benefit of having Sharp Europe involved? wink.gif
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post Oct 19 2004, 03:26 AM
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given that sharp are pulling the 6000 out of USA, I can't imagine them launching any other Zaurii there :-(
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post Oct 19 2004, 07:15 AM
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QUOTE(vishnja @ Oct 19 2004, 08:59 AM)
Dual boot on a PDA? I think that doesn't make any sense if you want to use both systems productively.
I agree, the C3k isn't worth an upgrade from a clamshell (as it is lacking built in wifi) , but I'm happy Sharp is still using Linux on their PMTs and the C3k is a bigger step from the C860 than the C860 was from the C760...
Plus I like the design ;-)

As I understand, people are already dual-booting but with 2 different Linux ROMs. I haven't tried it myself and I'm reluctant to do so due to memory constraints since my CF slot is taken up with a bluetooth card.

Being able to dual boot PPC (or even Palm) and Linux would increase productivity quite a bit. Why do you think it would prevent anyone from using it productively?

The fact of the matter is, PPC/Palm are supported in the US, sync on Macs, and have better stock PIMs and some other applications. If we could go back to the days of WinCE2 where you could load a CF card in with Linux and run a boot loader, that would be great. Then I could use PPC/Palm for my day to day business needs and then pop in a CF card with Linux when I need/want to hack. It'd be even better if they'd give us a fat flash chip to load both OSes on comfortably.
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ArchiMark
post Oct 19 2004, 04:28 PM
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Some SL-3000 Questions:

Could someone tell me whether they think one will need to get updated version of software to run on the SL-3000 or will C860/C760 version apps run OK on it??

Will there be issues with putting other ROMs (Cacko, etc) on it as well??

From the photos online of the SL-3000 it appears to me that the keys on the keyboard are slightly larger and more pronounced (which seems good...). What do others think??

Thanks for any input!

Mark
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ccrandal69
post Oct 19 2004, 06:18 PM
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According to Dynamism.com, the C3000 will run all C7xx programs.
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post Oct 19 2004, 06:41 PM
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Compatibility shouldn't even be an issue, most probably you'll be able to run the current 860 rom as well, maybe you'll need to compile a hdd interface driver in as well, depending on interface.
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