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post Nov 9 2004, 05:09 PM
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From Jason @ Dynamism:
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With OFFER CODE 5411Z, we are offering the SL-C3000 for $809.  This offer is only valid through November 19th.

Shipping w/in the US    $7
Shipping w/in Canada    $18
**Shipping (FedEx International Priority) w/in Europe        $29 (wire transfer payment only)

To place an order, please give us a call at 800.711.6277 (312.587.0402) or email us at sales@dynamism.com.

Best regards,
Dynamism Sales

Dynamism.com - Since 1997, the world's best technology with acclaimed service:
* FedEx Rescue Warranty service on all computers and PDAs
* Unlimited Toll-Free tech support


The C3000 is regularly $899 at Dynamism. Please note that website ordering for the C3000 is currently unavailable, so use the number or email listed above.
The C3000 is expected to ship in two weeks.




(ZeeUser is not an employee or representative of Dynamism. All information presented in this posting is taken from email correspondence with Dynamism or from Dynamism's website)
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fastscirocco
post Jan 19 2005, 07:05 AM
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Just an FYI on current pricing I have cound on the Sharp Zaurus SL-C3000 as of 1/19/2005 at 10 am Est.


http://conics.net/shp/pda/zaurus-sl-c700/sl-c3000.html is currently offering it for $735 + $32 shipping = $767

http://www.lolzer.com/ is asking $735 but the shipping is ~$$56.92= $794.99

http://www.pricejapan.com/PriceJapan_com.htm is $713, this includes shipping.

http://www.shirtpocket.co.uk/cat/ is £501.28 + £25.95 for shipping = £527.23 or $689.250 but there could be other costs to tender payment . I haven't figured this one out completely yet. Looks like there could be a 4.5% charge for using a credit card =$31.00 raising the cost to $720.25

http://www.streamlinecpus.com/store/ is $799.99 shipping is $7.65 (ups ground) =$807.64



Don't know if this helps anybody or if I'm out of line, but I've been shopping for these and felt it would be good to share what information I have found. I'm personally leaning towards making my purchase from pricejapan.com



Hope this information is helpful and I haven't stepped on anyone's toes (dymanism.com)

Chris
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rdwtux
post Jan 25 2005, 11:23 AM
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I found PriceJapan was amazing to deal with. The unit was shipped out on Tuesday, I had it Friday. Great prices also.
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post Jan 26 2005, 01:37 PM
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QUOTE(fastscirocco @ Jan 19 2005, 10:05 AM)
Don't know if this helps anybody or if I'm out of line, but I've been shopping for these and felt it would be good to share what information I have found. I'm personally leaning towards making my purchase from pricejapan.com



Hope this information is helpful and I haven't stepped on anyone's toes (dymanism.com)

Chris
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Not at all. You are helping people by giving people choice. And everyone loves choice (except of course Microsoft, Bush, and the Justic Department LOL wink.gif )

Thanks for the research.
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speculatrix
post Jan 26 2005, 02:23 PM
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thanks very much for that survey - it shows the huge disparity between buying from a local importer and buying from an Jp-based exporter...

the shirtpocket C3000 is US$1100 - a huge price gain over the PriceJapan!

there's a Yahoo shop who also sell Z's, but I don't have their URL to hand, sorry.
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post Jan 27 2005, 08:53 AM
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I noticed on pricejapan.com the 3000 is now $657 shipped. How can you beat that. That is even with DHL shipping, and not their other shipper. The only drawback I could see is that the unit will come in Japanese language. But I'm sure with help from this ZUG, it could be up and running cacko in no time!
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post Jan 27 2005, 09:07 AM
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QUOTE(bit_bucket @ Jan 27 2005, 12:53 PM)
The only drawback I could see is that the unit will come in Japanese language.  But I'm sure with help from this ZUG, it could be up and running cacko in no time!
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And convertring it is easy ..atleast so I have read. Below is the information I found on what it takes to convert it to English. It appears to be as simple as two commands.

"su
reconv

After which the unit will reboot and be in an English only mode (Japanese Inputs remove, Input switching removed, Larger fonts, etc...).

Typing the two commands again will revert the unit back into hybrid mode to allow for the translation software to work again.

As well, please see the following forum post at ZaurusUserGroup for more information about the C3000 and its Issues/Solutions:

http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=8846 "
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pierro78
post Jan 29 2005, 10:47 AM
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QUOTE(bit_bucket @ Jan 27 2005, 08:53 AM)
I noticed on pricejapan.com the 3000 is now $657 shipped.  How can you beat that.  That is even with DHL shipping, and not their other shipper. 
noticed it is up to $702 today there ...
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speculatrix
post Jan 30 2005, 02:11 PM
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Here's my current view, from England...

(best viewed in a fixed width font - see attachment)
<font face="Courier">
price includes shipping to Eu unless "+s" on price

760 860 3000
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Conics $520* $610 $780 (shipping $50)
£275 £323 £413
(* used - 1 month warranty)

Brando $735 $860
£390 £456


TriSoft E600+s E839+s
£414+s £579+s

Lolzer $595 $795

PriceJapan £300 £383

ShirtPocket £475 £590 (uk seller)

Streamline $660+s $800+s

Dynamism $820+s
£434

$600+s $729+s (demo)
£318+s £387+s (demo)
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barbjfox2000
post Jan 31 2005, 06:37 PM
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I just ordered a SL-C3000 from Dynamism this week...and paid considerably less than the Dynamism prices mentioned in this post. Granted, I'm in the U.S.A., so my shipping is considerably less. I'd highly suggest U.S. folk to give them a phone call (with other vendor's prices in hand) and see what they'll quote you. You may be pleasantly surprised.
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post Feb 1 2005, 12:43 AM
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so how much did you pay for it?? smile.gif
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B_Lizzard
post Feb 1 2005, 07:57 AM
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I suggest that, If you live in Europe, you buy from Conics instaid of PriceJapan.And that is because:

PriceJapan offers the C3000 at 554 Euros (720.520 USD).That INCLUDES shipping.Quite good, the lowest price I've seen (Outside Ebay, that is).BUT, if you live in Europe, you'll need the universal charger that costs another 30 Euros (Although it's not necessary to buy it from PriceJapan for that price).

So, for guys (Or gals wink.gif ) who want to buy a C3000 from PriceJapan, you need at most 584 Euro (760 USD), unless you find another adaptor (Still...).One more thing, I think that PriceJapan does NOT support the units after it sends them (As in Warranty), and also, they come in Jap.It's just the middle-man.

Conics, on the other side, offers their C3000 at 560 Euros (729 USD) each, including a choice of
( A ): a free Adapter for World-wide use or
( B ): a free 2nd Sharp North American AC adapter

PLUS a 12 month warranty.With shipping (To Europe), it goes up to 600 Euros (778.00 USD).The units also come in english for free (Also the site has a full guide for free).

So, wilst PriceJapan IS cheaper, albeit just a little, I guess Conics is quite better because it's got better support, cleaner transactions and 12 Month Warrantys on their C3000.

That's a nice buyers guide, now, isn't it?

All the information enclosed in this post is were correct at 1/2/2005 (That is, D/M/Y, not M/D/Y).Also, I hope I'm not stepping on anyone's toes (Dynamism, etc.)
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post Feb 1 2005, 01:46 PM
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Thanks, BL for that perspective. Altho people have said how efficient PriceJapan are, I think that a pre-conversion *and* the backing of people who know the product well enough to provide English tech support is worth while.

I've added Kemplar to my table; they only do the 760. Sorry about the formatting, looks great on console in fixed-point font.

Paul
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price includes shipping to Eu unless "+s" on price

760 860 3000
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Conics $520* $610 $780 (shipping $50)
£275 £323 £413
(* used - 1 month warranty)

Kemplar $775+s - -

Brando - $735 $860
£390 £456


TriSoft - E600+s E839+s
£414+s £579+s

Lolzer - $595 $795

PriceJapan - - E554
- £300 £383

ShirtPocket - £475 £590 (uk seller)

Streamline - $660+s $800+s
£425

Dynamism - - $820+s
£434

- $600+s $729+s (demo)
£318+s £387+s (demo)
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post Feb 2 2005, 12:44 PM
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Interesting thread started here I just wanted to touch on a few things that may or may not be important. Most company's know what each other sell items at whether it be from reading, surfing, or what have you so some try to offer more than just a unit itself. My feeling is if you are going to offer a unit that is not supported in the US then you need to be able to support it not only for yourself but for the customer. When I say support im not always talking about help with functions etc. I am talking about offering the customer a product that comes with what you need (manuals, the correct adapters, localisation, testing). I believe you need to sell a product fully not sell one where the customer has to do all the work to make the product usable.
When looking at prices many of us could sell these units at the same pricing everyone else does if we wanted to give you nothing with it. I think you have a great list of retailers of products going here but no listings of the "extras". Many of the retailers you name above have excellent products but all offer something different that sets them apart. I guess what I am saying is price is one thing and functionality with dependable support is another. This is not meant as advertising but as a retailers perspective because I personally believe "many" of the above are great, respected retailers we just all offer a different product.
Finally, also lets take into consideration the cost of importing and warranty claim. Warranty claim can be expensive if the unit cannot be repaired in house it has to be returned to Sharp Japan which the retailer pays freight for. Also looking into whether the units are CE/FCC tested. This costs a retailer around $2000 for testing plus or minus depending on the tweaking involved to get a unit to pass this testing. In Europe and the US this testing is needed in order to sell the units legally.
This is just a little food for thought from the retailers end of things I hope this helps shed some light on the differences in pricing and that "most" of the time there is more involved the just a simple raising and lowering of the price.
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post Feb 2 2005, 01:47 PM
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Yes, I can see what you mean.

Now, as I understand, You're the owner of streamlinecpus online shop.I saw your site and your prices and I have to tell you, they are quite good, IF they include shipping.

Now, what you offer is this:

1)12 Month warranty, a feature also offered by Conics (For a lower Price).

2)A free American Adaptor is offered.Now, I don't know if it will work for us Europeans, but, Conics offers: Either a second North American Adaptor or a Adaptor for world use.

3)English Localisation.Now, wilst Conics also offers English Localisation in it's package, It's just a transelation (And easily done at home with their free online guide), you offer full localisation (Programs etc.), or at least, thats what you say.

3)You offer a free quick-start guide, in english, of course.Wilst it's not a full manual, and it's available for free at Trisoft in it's electronic form, it's a plus.

4)And last, but not least, you test the devices yourselves, to minimise, or even prevent DOA.I think that's a great advantage over your competitors, I believe that any retailer that uses the device BEFORE it is sent to the buyer (English Localisation etc.) effectively tests it for flaws, although they might not be all that apparent.I believe you make thourough testing, not just powering the device up to see if it works.

And I believe you fully support your customers?

Now, wilst many of these advatages warrant a price climb, some of the features you offer are already being offered for lower prices, wilst others are easy to make make for yourself (Manual, English Localisation,Extra Software).The way I see it, and that does not neccesarily mean that others share my opinions (Although, I have to say, I'm only 16, with no constant income, so money tends to be hard to come by wink.gif ) the only major offer you have to make is the pre-testing, and probably better support (At least in the US), and I'm willing to "risk" a little to save some money.

As a final note, I only compared Conics to StreamlineCpus, not because I'm in some way affiliated with Conics, but because I believe it's got the lowest price, for the services it offers.Also,I think Conics is Japan Based, so, if your Zaurus has a problem, you have to zip it back to Japan for warranty (That way Conics avoids FCC/CE electronic testing pricing), wilst StreamlineCpus is US based (For us euro guys we've got Trisoft).

I hope I didn't hurt anyone with all this (Stephen), or helped anyone else (Conics).Every retailer has a diffrent choices, and it's up to you to make up your mind.

Thanks,
Alex.
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