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TRIsoft
post Feb 2 2005, 02:42 PM
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Hi everybody (and "big-post-warning"),

now we have to put our 2 cents in:

What Stephen says, is that you can't just compare prices.
You will get a different solution from every dealer. To show
two extremes as example:

1st: Some dealers just get the units from japan, change the
"language=jp" to "=en" and call it a localisation.

2nd: Others (cough) import devices, invest lots of money and
weeks of workload in localisation, finetuning, CE/FCC testing,
writing a manual, stocking parts, offering exchange devices in
case of repair... Simply: Work like you could expect it from a
major manufacturer. Not mentioned supporting Zaurus-related
Linux projects with free or massively discounted stuff.

If you think you'll able to collect all informations from the net and
just look for the best price: Get it from a japanese exporter and
have fun with your Zaurus.

If you want a solution that works right out of the box including the
"make me happy with support and warranty": Go to a professional
dealer.

That's all. Look what's behind the scenes and contact the source
before you buy. We daily support devices from self-importers and
bought from other sources. From what we see there we urgently
recommend that everybody who's spending his hard earned money
should closely look what he's getting for it.

@Lizzard: Regarding the manual and ressources:
You're right that we provide it in our free download section. We
don't see a reason why we should restrict our localisation sets
and informations only to our customers. The idea of Linux is a
free and open system with free informations for everybody.
We also know that very "smart-shoppers" use these ressources
to set up their self imported devices (about 700 downloads
monthly for the manual). But we also see that a lot of customers
choose us or StreamlineCPUs because of this.
To say it clear: Every user is free to use our ressources. But only
we (TRIsoft) and our US partner (StreamlineCPUs) are allowed
to deliver it with their devices.

///TRIsoft

Marc Stephan
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stampsm
post Feb 5 2005, 06:24 PM
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what about not going through some third party. we should look into buying directly from sharp.

http://sharp-world.com/support/index.html

we should have enough buying power to buy a lot directly from sharp.

anyone here have a business or store they own so we can have an actual company contacting sharp and enquiring about purchases? i am not competely sure what work it would entitle going through sharp, but it is worth looking into. in about a month or less i will be looking into buying either a 6000 or a 3000, and if we can get a good deal it will be worth looking into.
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Streamline
post Feb 5 2005, 08:34 PM
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First off SHARP will not sell to a U.S supplier because they are not in the market of PDA's here. Also if they were Sharp only deals on teh distributor level here in the U.S unless there are special circumstances. Also Sharp requires minimum orders meaning many at a time (200 or so) at least in the U.S The problem with doing this is lets say Sharp comes out with a new model that everyone wants to go with now someone is stuck with all the old model and the only way to get rid of it is to lower the price normally for a lot less then they paid. Although it is a nice thought it would take a lot fo buying power to happen and it would have to be done in Japan as you cant buy htese in the U.S anymore hope this helps.
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Mickeyl
post Feb 6 2005, 03:59 AM
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I'd like second what Trisoft are telling. They have been very supportive to the OZ/Opie developer team and I'm glad we have such a distributor here in germany.

Speaking about support... you have a C3000 too much? biggrin.gif (just kidding)
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speculatrix
post Feb 6 2005, 03:05 PM
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I think there are several ways of looking at this.

If you want it to work out of the box, and need at least some hand-holding, you'd better buy from the specialist localisation distributor who offers a good warranty.

If you're the kind of person who's going to delve into the unit and re-flash it etc, then you could save money and buy it from the cheapest exporter from Jp... BUT, if you're going to be re-flashing it and other adventurous experiments, there's a chance you'll "brick" the device and spend more money getting it fixed than you would had you bought it from localised specialised distributor.

The thing is, if you save the money when you buy it, you'll always worry. Another local distributor - shirtpocket in the UK - can't support items they didn't sell..
If you pay the extra, the excitement of having a shiny new Z will make you forget the extra price, and the lack of fear over problems will help you enjoy it more!
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osx4zaurus
post Mar 27 2005, 09:12 PM
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Does the Dynamism localization of the C3000 completely remove the Japanese support? In particular does the Japanese dictionary remain? I can't seem to find detailed information on what each aftermarket supplier does as far as localization.
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Curious Aardvark
post Jun 5 2005, 10:27 AM
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Just a quickie - as I'm using the trisoft localisation rom I'd just like to say thanks and Vielen danke (spelling could be off there My german is rusty) :-)
Amazing attitude and great support site. Sorry I didn't give you any money sad.gif

Plus if you buy direct from japan and have existing zaurus you can use your existing power supply. Or buy travel kit from addonsworld.com - cheaper than the japanese convertor and gives you car, worldwide mains and usb charging from laptops, pcs etc all for under £20.
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