QUOTE(Tomoe @ Jan 10 2007, 06:40 AM)
QUOTE(bwpda4 @ Jan 9 2007, 11:10 PM)
I wonder if newer ROMS specifically perform this blocking of the USB cable (and other network interfaces) while connected to KWINS/Bitwarp services. This would be very annoying, but I could imagine that it's possible.
Does anyone know anymore about this? Tomoe?
Heh, I had this thread on mail notify, and I even forgot about THAT! Imagine the surprise.
Great! To be honest, I didn't expect any response to my query, to say nothing of a next-day response! This-here "Internet" thingie sure is amazin'.
Anyways, didn't really look in on it after this thread, checked both KWINS and BitWarp (which offers a similar PDA plan).
I'm on the Bitwarp PDA plan. I signed up for Bitwarp back when the 860 came out (KWINS wasn't available then). Then I had some recurring network problems with Bitwarp (unable to login at peak times, over-restrictive SMTP blocking making me unable to send mails, etc) and considered jumping ship to KWINS, but finally Bitwarp fixed their problems so I'm still with them.
Indeed there is a form of blocking going on, that's why KWINS PDA works only with a limited number of devices (Zaurii and maybe 2-3 WinMobile machines); in older Zaurii it was implemented purely as an installable driver but the newer models have the functionality built in the ROM on shipping.
This is starting to make some sort of sense to me, in a sinister way. I wondered why, around the time KWINS came out, the Zaurus home page insisted that 860 users must upgrade their ROMS as soon as possible to use Bitwarp/KWINS services. As I said, after upgrading, I had weird connection problems when using the USB cable and my Bitwarp connection at the same time. I couldn't fix the problem in a few hours so I just reverted my ROM back to the earlier version (thankfully I did a NAND backup beforehand).
From what I've got, the USB port AND the IrDA port are blocked while the KWINS card is being used. I understand their motivation behind this, because they're charging 1/4 of the regular price counting on PDA users not downloading too much. What I would like is for someone with a C1000/3000/3100/3200 and a KWINS card to check if the host mode is disabled too; if it is not, then you could just plug a usb ethernet or wifi module in and router away! It is probably easily hackable anyway, just not enough of the userbase for people to really mess with it. If I ever get it, I know I surely will. No japs will limit MY internets!! =P
Well I have an 860 with Bitwarp so I can't test this directly, but I can try upgrading the ROM again and spend some more time investigating the USB cable to see if it really is being completely blocked during Bitwarp access, or if it was a configuration error on my part.
A friend has a C1000 with Bitwarp, so maybe I can try to test the C1000 USB connection during Bitwarp access.
Just wondering, how satisfied are you with KWINS? As far as I recall, KWINS is a bit cheaper than Bitwarp (Bitwarp PDA is 2190 yen/month, KWINS is something like 1900).
I got Bitwarp PDA pretty early, so I got the 1st-generation VN-201 PHS card (later customers, like my friend, got a different card that seems faster). With my card, I seem to get only about 64kbps max, though it claims 128kbps. On a good day I can listen to 56kbps shoutcast streaming radio. I can never listen to 128kbps shoutcast streaming radio - the card isn't fast enough and I get a lot of chopping pauses in the stream. My friend's newer Bitwarp card (can't remember the model number) is a little better, but still not able to listen to 128kbps shoutcast streams.
How about KWINS speed?
Any blocked ports with KWINS? Connection outages? Access coverage (in trains, etc)? Bitwarp seems basically OK on all three points - no ports blocked as far as I can tell (I can do IRC, streaming radio), infrequent connection outages (none recently, earlier on weekends sometimes I couldn't login), and reasonable coverage in trains, etc.
One thing I noticed about Bitwarp PDA is the upstream rate seems severely throttled. I tried to set up a VOIP connection between my friend's Bitwarp and my Bitwarp connections, and I got it basically working but the speed and latency was horrible, around 5-10s latency and maybe 8kbps. I also tried to set up a simple streaming radio server between our Bitwarp connections, which similarly only barely worked. If you try to ping one bitwarp machine from another, you get horrible connection response. Kind of weird... maybe they don't want you using these devices as P2P upstream/downstream terminals, only as a downstream terminal.
Any idea if KWINS has similar upstream throttling?
Sorry for all the questions, but it's a rare thing to find an English-speaking person using one of these services :-)