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speculatrix
has anyone gotten an 802.11g card to work, and with WPA?

snag is at work they only want to run 11g and WPA (Apple airport extreme) on their wireless lan for security; there's only a vague chance they would drop it down to 802.11b (if the Senior Sysadmin decides to get an iPaq with wlan)... but will definitely stick with WPA.

I would get murdered if I put up my own access point (and rightly so!), so I'd have to use bluetooth, which is OK for surfing but not for file transfer.

I would be happy to choose ANY rom, and I have quite a lot of experience with linux and 802.11~ from hacking together an access point with the Keith Smith OpenSTA/OpenAP stuff on a eumitcom single board computer, so am not afraid of getting my hands dirty!

thanks for any thoughts
Paul
stupkid
QUOTE(speculatrix @ Mar 1 2005, 04:33 PM)
has anyone gotten an 802.11g card to work, and with WPA?

snag is at work they only want to run 11g and WPA (Apple airport extreme) on their wireless lan for security; there's only a vague chance they would drop it down to 802.11b (if the Senior Sysadmin decides to get an iPaq with wlan)... but will definitely stick with WPA.

I would get murdered if I put up my own access point (and rightly so!), so I'd have to use bluetooth, which is OK for surfing but not for file transfer.

I would be happy to choose ANY rom, and I have quite a lot of experience with linux and 802.11~ from hacking together an access point with the Keith Smith OpenSTA/OpenAP stuff on a eumitcom single board computer, so am not afraid of getting my hands dirty!

thanks for any thoughts
Paul
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WPA is working on Cacko, but it would really help if you let us know what model of Zaurus you are using.
speculatrix
QUOTE(stupkid @ Mar 2 2005, 12:29 AM)
QUOTE(speculatrix @ Mar 1 2005, 04:33 PM)
has anyone gotten an 802.11g card to work, and with WPA?
thanks for any thoughts
Paul
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WPA is working on Cacko, but it would really help if you let us know what model of Zaurus you are using.
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for the 860, but I'd be curious to know if a CF 802.11g could work on SL-C3000 as well (just in case I suddenly get rich) huh.gif
speculatrix
on the subject of 802.11g:

Am I right in thinking there's only one 802.11g card in CF form at the moment, the LinkSys WCF54, and it doesn't work at all in the Zaurus?

I don't have a wlan card at all yet, and want to try and future-proof myself. I would be happy to buy a card which isn't 100% supported (say if it only worked in 802.11b mode just for now), in which case if the Linksys 11g card partly works I'd buy that.

My priority is
1st - 11g future compatibility
2nd - WPA

thanks
Paul
AndyTiedye
QUOTE(speculatrix @ Mar 14 2005, 10:17 AM)
on the subject of 802.11g:

Am I right in thinking there's only one 802.11g card in CF form at the moment, the LinkSys WCF54, and it doesn't work at all in the Zaurus?


It's the only one I've seen. I have one and it doesn't work in the SL-C3000.
I have about 3 more weeks to return it for a refund. There is an open-source
driver for that chipset at http://www.agere.com/mobility/wireless_lan_drivers.html
I just downloaded it and will take a look.



QUOTE(speculatrix @ Mar 14 2005, 10:17 AM)
I don't have a wlan card at all yet, and want to try and future-proof myself. I would be happy to buy a card which isn't 100% supported (say if it only worked in 802.11b mode just for now), in which case if the Linksys 11g card partly works I'd buy that.

My priority is
1st - 11g future compatibility
2nd - WPA

thanks
Paul
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802.11g networks will generally work in 802.11b as well, so 802.11b cards are
likely to be usable for some time to come. And the necessary drivers are probably
already on your machine. The Linksys WCF54g uses an Agere chipset, so the existing
drivers don't know how to talk to it at all.

I got an Ambicom 802.11b card (prism2 chipset) and it works fine open or using WEP.
Unfortunately WEP is so insecure I don't even want to run it at home.

We need WPA.

I'm told that the wpa supplicant works with prism2-based cards, so it should just
be a matter of compiling it for the Zaurus. Has anybody done that?
kingmob
QUOTE(AndyTiedye @ Mar 17 2005, 07:06 AM)
We need WPA.

I'm told that the wpa supplicant works with prism2-based cards, so it should just
be a matter of compiling it for the Zaurus.  Has anybody done that?

It's in the pdaxrom unstable feed.

There's no support for the madwifi driver (it wouldn't compile and I didn't spend any time trying to fix it, as I don't have an atheros card), but it works fine on my noname prism2 card.

Tim
speculatrix
Problem with WEP is you have to change the keys quite regularly, or face having it cracked. I share my ADSL with a neighbour, and change the key monthly, even though they are very low traffic. The access point is on a separate network, v heavily firewalled off from my lan in the house, and can only be used to surf the net or collect pop3 email.

Problem with making an access point dual b + g is that when a b client connects, the whole wlan slows down to b mode. So, this is why at work they run only g mode with WPA, and hence my desire to run 11g+WPA.

So at work I am currently using bluetooth with my SuSE linux desktop acting as a gateway (using PAND and not ppp over rfcomm). I haven't bought an 802.11 card yet, whilst consulting the learned body that is OESF!

Thanks very much for all the replies, very enlightening. I've been a linux user on servers for years, on desktop for three years, been following Zaurus product forever but only took the plunge a few weeks ago to buy an SL-C860 and so far am very impressed with the robustness and richness of the networking and all the apps.

Paul
speculatrix
QUOTE(kingmob @ Mar 17 2005, 12:39 PM)
There's no support for the madwifi driver (it wouldn't compile and I didn't spend any time trying to fix it, as I don't have an atheros card), but it works fine on my noname prism2 card.


is there an atheros CF form 11g card? I see they do miniPCI cards, so if nothing else they're surely planning a CF 11g card?
speculatrix
QUOTE(AndyTiedye @ Mar 17 2005, 07:06 AM)
I got an Ambicom 802.11b card (prism2 chipset) and it works fine open or using WEP.
Unfortunately WEP is so insecure I don't even want to run it at home.

We need WPA.

I'm told that the wpa supplicant works with prism2-based cards, so it should just
be a matter of compiling it for the Zaurus.  Has anybody done that?
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I just bought a CF wlan card cheap off ebay, I thought it was going to be a Senao, but it turned out to be a (mercury) zonet zcf1100 card. Works fine for kismet, but now I need the WPA supplicant too; I won't run plain WEP for anything important either!
speculatrix
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FORKED THIS THREAD OFF TO HERE, about building a cacko WPA supplicant:

http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=11487


d'oh! having delved deeper, I find that cacko has got the command-line tools for wpa (wpa_supplicant, wpa_cli etc)...

see later post for details
speculatrix
I decided to ask Linksys if they would provide a linux/opensource driver for their card. Here is what they answered:
QUOTE
QUOTE

Customer 04/08/2005 04:07 PM
Hi,
I would like to use the compact flash 802.11g on linux - 802.11b cards are unsuitable as my employer runs in g-mode only. Aare there any plans to provide any linux support for this card at all?

thanks
Paul

Response (xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) 04/08/2005 08:36 PM
Dear Paul,

Thank you for contacting Linksys Customer Support.

I apologize but we do not have any information about your inquiry at this moment. All our adapters are designed for Windows only to work. You may ask Linux support what they could recommend you to use. However, you may visit our website anytime to keep you posted.

Thank you.

If none of them works please feel free to email us again or you may call our technical support toll free hotline (800)-326-7114 open 24x7 so that we could further assist you. Please use this phone number given if you have further questions and as reference for future support calls.


[I snipped a few things from the reply, including their standard "not to be published" disclaimer]

Paul
speculatrix
cacko has got the command-line tools for wpa (wpa_supplicant, wpa_cli etc)...

you have to amend the /etc/pcmcia/wlan-ng.opts file and add WPA=y to the "qpewlan0" section which matches the ESSID you are trying to connect to.

then, save a backup copy of /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf, then edit it and trim out all the junk except the config part you want to use.

when you trigger wlan connection, it starts up wpa_supplicant with the appropriate arguments and in theory WPA is configured per the conf file and it should work!

I tried this at work with an Apple airport extreme and it doesn't work (someone running windows didn't make it work either, only people with Apple powerbooks can). I've tried starting wpa_supplicant manually (-w makes it wait till the interface appears) to get a log:
wpa_supplicant -d -dd -w -ieth0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -D hostap > /var/log 2>&1

and whilst impressively long, the log doesn't tell me why it fails.

sigh.
azalin
Are there any updates on rom support for 802.11g cards? I saw the following page after some searching:
http://prism54.org/
In which it is said that the prism54 chipsets are supported in a linux driver
( came on that page after an outdated link on http://www.fuw.edu.pl/~pliszka/hints/wireless.html )
maybe this knowledge can be merged with one of the roms smile.gif Or is this chipset in no way related to the one on the CF cards? (saw they were put on USB or "cardbus", haven't found a CF card with those chips on them but I may not have looked good enough). There is a nice wiki with docs here:
http://prism54.org/phpwiki/
I also want to hold off purchasing a wlan card for my C1000 since I don't want to drop any access points to the slower a/b modes for other people which are connected.

edit: Hmm when looking a bit more I found the Linksys WCF54G card has Linux driver sources at
http://www.agere.com/mobility/wireless_lan_drivers.html
( I found this on http://www.linuxdevices.com/cgi-bin/board/...Page=0&Session= ) This adapter is CF but does not support the 802.11a 5 GHz band and only the 2.4 GHz band networks, no problem though since most access points are b/g). I hope this is useful info (haven't been able to look through those sources yet) so some of the roms may offer support for such cards smile.gif
maslovsky
QUOTE(azalin @ Jun 8 2005, 03:57 PM)
edit: Hmm when looking a bit more I found the Linksys WCF54G card has Linux driver sources at
http://www.agere.com/mobility/wireless_lan_drivers.html


There ate two versions of the driver - 7.18 release and 7.22 beta. The 7.18 is workng and will be included in Cacko 1.23. The 7.22 crashes the kernel...

Don't know which version supports your card, but if it's 7.18, then you're lucky smile.gif
azalin
QUOTE(maslovsky @ Jun 9 2005, 11:27 AM)
QUOTE(azalin @ Jun 8 2005, 03:57 PM)
edit: Hmm when looking a bit more I found the Linksys WCF54G card has Linux driver sources at
http://www.agere.com/mobility/wireless_lan_drivers.html


There ate two versions of the driver - 7.18 release and 7.22 beta. The 7.18 is workng and will be included in Cacko 1.23. The 7.22 crashes the kernel...

Don't know which version supports your card, but if it's 7.18, then you're lucky smile.gif
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Wow nice! Thanks for the news! I haven't bought any card yet, but if it works with that one I probably will smile.gif (and flash to Cacko!)

EDIT: Hmm after some searching I wonder if that card has the Hermes II.5 chip (WL60040) (I think the Hermes II is WL60010), for which the 7.22 drivers may be necessary sad.gif Not entirely sure though.

I was a bit confused with all the different chipset models so I looked around and found this page which explains it nicely: http://www.topfx.com/wifi.shtml
Stumbled on some other interesting pages as well:
http://questier.com/howto.html
http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/
http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Ipa...y_2fWirelessLAN

Another note is that it seems some of these Agere drivers are meant for kernel 2.4 not for 2.6 (most Z roms are based on 2.4 right? So this would be no problem then).
Da_Blitz
www.tomshardware.com had a review where they cut one of these things open and talked about the chipset, i personally could not find anything that could help out and as faras i could tell there is no one supporting these cards in the linux community (or anything else using this chipset for that matter), however the infomation from tomshardware was a bit sketchy when it came to product numbers

as far as i could tell this card is was the first and only to use that chipset sad.gif, so i hope the source code works for the card.

article: http://www.tomsnetworking.com/Reviews-177-ProdID-WCF54G.php
Da_Blitz
WE CAN DO IT!!!!!!

cant say how happy i am, i cross checked the tomsnetworkin article press release against the model numbers in the source code and look what i found

http://www.agere.com/NEWS/PRESS2003/031003a.html

from the driver readme:
The driver in this package supports the network interface cards based on:
- WL60010, a.k.a. Hermes-II
- WL60040, a.k.a. Hermes-II.5

from the press release:
The WaveLAN Multimode Baseband Processor (WL64040), which is developed in 0.13 micron advanced CMOS technology, contains the complete signal processing functionality for both OFDM and CCK modulation. It also supports Agere's patented antenna diversity implementation, which provides enhanced data throughput and improved signal coverage. The baseband uses a 1.5V internal power supply to dramatically reduce the power dissipation of high-speed OFDM signal processing, significantly improving battery life. In addition, the baseband uses a novel method of iterative channel estimation to digitally enhance the tolerance of weak radio signals, ensuring reliable connections. The WL64040 baseband supports a digital interface to the WL60040 MAC, enabling system integration of the MAC with a simple interface to a single-chip radio module. The WaveLAN WL54240 SiGe-based, dual-band power amplifier includes analog power control for the 2.4 and 5 GHz frequency bands and an on-chip power detector.


all i have to do know is get my hands on some hardware and i will try and get this thing working

by the way the driver i am talking about it the 7.22, it also contains some other goodies: The HCF directory contains firmware images to allow the card to operate in either station (STA) or Access Point (AP) mode

other problems include: This software can be compiled and installed with Linux kernel versions 2.4.x. Although this driver should compile for other CPUs as well, as of the date of this release, no CPU architectures other than x86 have been verified.

ie not tested on arm and only works for 2.4, just when i was looking at going to the 2.6 kernel on my c3k (see the open zaurus website)

i cant wait to try and get this working!
speculatrix
WPA and Cacko:

I managed to buy a socket/symbol 802.11b card cheap off ebay (the one that supposedly works with WPA), as there was some doubt Mercury/Zonet ZCF1100 card I've got would work with WPA.

Nope... maybe it's the Apple Airport Extreme they use at work, but wpa_supplicant doesn't do anything at all. sigh.

I think before you try and get WCG54G card to work with WPA, need to get proof that WPA will work with the Zaurus's old kernel at all!
maslovsky
QUOTE(speculatrix @ Jun 15 2005, 12:16 AM)
WPA and Cacko:

I managed to buy a socket/symbol 802.11b card cheap off ebay (the one that supposedly works with WPA), as there was some doubt Mercury/Zonet ZCF1100 card I've got would work with WPA.

Nope... maybe it's the Apple Airport Extreme they use at work, but wpa_supplicant doesn't do anything at all. sigh.

I think before you try and get WCG54G card to work with WPA, need to get proof that WPA will work with the Zaurus's old kernel at all!
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WPA works under Cacko, but only with HostAP drivers! You need to get a card& which is supported by hostap and most likely upgrade its firmware. Most of the cards are supported. Socket cards are not using hostap drivers though...
speculatrix
QUOTE
WPA works under Cacko, but only with HostAP drivers!


hmm, interesting... the socket/symbol card uses orinoco or spectrum drivers, whereas my Zonet ZCF100 card uses hostAP drivers.

The wpa_supplicant just didn't want to talk to apple airportextreme at work with the Zonet which is why I bought the socket card ('cos it was cheap!) to also try. Does the socket/symbol card work with hostAP drivers?

In tests, I've found the Zonet to be much more sensitive than the Symbol card - the Zonet will get 11Mbps where the Symbol only gets 1, and as a consequence gets 10 times the speed.

BTW, where does the cacko network wizard/app store its data files?
speculatrix
interesting site: http://www.open1x.org/
Da_Blitz
any one know anything about wpa and the c3000, i would love to have net access at home again
mscdex
Anyone get any farther on zaurus drivers for the linksys 802.11g CF card?
enochbenjamin
QUOTE(mscdex @ Aug 9 2005, 11:14 PM)
Anyone get any farther on zaurus drivers for the linksys 802.11g CF card?
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I am trying to follow this and got the following from my system info:

CF Card - Slot O

3.3V 16-bit PC Card
funtion 0: [ready]
product info: "Linksys", "WCF54G_Wireless-G_CompactFlash_Card","",""

--

Does this mean anything to anybody?
speculatrix
QUOTE(enochbenjamin @ Aug 16 2005, 05:07 AM)
I am trying to follow this and got the following from my system info:

CF Card - Slot O

3.3V 16-bit PC Card
funtion 0: [ready]
product info: "Linksys", "WCF54G_Wireless-G_CompactFlash_Card","",""
Does this mean anything to anybody?
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well, it's interesting, as it means we know what ID string to put into the card recognition tables for hotplug to trigger the loading of the right driver, but it doesn't give us a working driver :-(
rob_figlabs
I spent the weekend trying to build the Agere Systems driver for the Zaurus and get it to work. I managed to build it (after making mods to the code and the config), but I don't think it will work in it's current form. The 7.22 version is the only published one with support for the 54g card.

The driver is recognised and loaded when the card is inserted, and you can see the debug logging from the driver if you run dmesg. I added some logging of my own too. The driver goes bang after dereferencing a null pointer in hcf_connect. The driver comes in two halves - one half passes a 'device address' to the other half. The top half of the driver gets a 32 bit value for the address. The bottom half is assuming a 16 bit value and it comes through as zero - later going bang. The release notes for the driver say that they haven't finished 32-bit DMA support yet and it only works using 16-bit port I/O. I think this is where the problem lies. Anyone with deeper knowledge of drivers feel free to mail me for details or have a go yourself!
cmpayc13
Hi All,

no way to get Linksys WCF54G working in Z?
no one is going to do it?
how can I support someone, who have enough knowlege to compile/patch the driver?

best regards

cmpayc
Yoru
Hi!

No news about WCF54G working in Zaurus??
agosine
Has anyone managed to get WPA-PSK with AES (CCMP) working? I have a Dlink 660 wireless card, upgraded to firmware 1.7.4. Couldn't believe that it could be done right from my Zaurus, but it worked. Using a Linksys WRT54G wireless router. Any help would be appreciated.
wsk
Hello,

I've already asked about this before, but..

Has anyone been keeping track of this beast?
http://www.socketcom.com/product/WL6010-676.asp

Read the press release about it:
http://www.socketcom.com/about/press/read.asp?ID=188

It specifically mentions Linux support. I've sent the company an email asking about the status of any linux drivers and am awaiting a reply.

Hopefully, this is a card based on a chipset that has basic support. IT seems to be relatively (compared to cards like Ambicom's WL54-CF) low-power too.

Any thoughts anyone?

Kannan
Hrw
agosine: OZ 3.5.4 and newer support WPA - I use WPA-PSK at home with my c760.
Vertigok
QUOTE(wsk @ Jun 24 2006, 08:40 AM)
It specifically mentions Linux support. I've sent the company an email asking about the status of any linux drivers and am awaiting a reply.

let us know what they say...
walts
I'm looking for help getting an Ambicom WL54-CF to work.
I'm using a C1000 (Akita) and have just flashed Opie 3.5.4.1 but would also be happy to use cacko.

cardctl ident gives the following:
product info: "Marvell", "88W8300 802.11g PC Card", "Version 1.1", ""
manfid: 0x02df, 0x8103
function: 6 (network)

I have entered the following in /etc/pcmcia/hostap_cs.conf:
card "AmbiCom 802.11g WLAN Card"
version "Marvell", "88W8300 802.11g PC Card", "Version 1.1", ""
manfid 0x02df, 0x8103
bind "hostap_cs"

(This was done by kind of blindly following instructions in another thread, modifying as seemed appropriate)

After a reboot, when I insert the card, the power LED on the card comes on, and the message "Successfully activated card in socket 0" appears.

In the network setup application, the wlan0 icon shows as wireless, but the configuration detail does not. There is no wifi0 or 802.11 entry.

Wellenreiter (the primary use I have for the Zaurus) tells me there is a dhcp client running, but refuses to go beyond that. If I try to start a scan I get "No device configured".

I need help in taking the next steps, please!

TIA
Walt
Da_Blitz
from a quick google (note the quick, ie may be wrong) there is no support for this card besides ndis
walts
QUOTE(Da_Blitz @ Jul 8 2006, 06:03 AM)
from a quick google (note the quick, ie may be wrong) there is no support for this card besides ndis
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Yuck.

A not-so-quick Google gave the same result. I could not find much about the Marvell chipset except that some folks had been successful in using ndis wrappers on Windows (x86) drivers for laptops. There does not seem to be any native Linux support for this chipset at all.

The good news is that CompUSA agreed to take back the card.

Walt
suchs
hrw--

are you using a wifi g card with your zaurus? or is this b?

at this point I will consider getting any wifi g card that has been shown to work.

Btw thanks!! I would like to provide a mirror for some of the feeds. Who do I talk to to get that going?

it would be at www.linuxnetwork.com


--Pete

QUOTE(Hrw @ Jun 24 2006, 03:59 PM)
agosine: OZ 3.5.4 and newer support WPA - I use WPA-PSK at home with my c760.
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Da_Blitz
the point is that none of them work sad.gif

we are trying.... slowly
zthird
you might want to look here http://projects.linuxtogo.org/projects/marvell8385/
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