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Cwiiis
OZ 3.5.3 release has happened, please skip to the bottom of this post (note: post, not thread) to see updates and information related to the official GPE image.

As I only have a collie, I can't say how the gpe-image will be on other PDAs, but the issues I was concerned with for OZ/GPE 3.5.3 have mostly been resolved now, so I have provided a preview image, along with Minimo, <link removed due to release>. Note that although I have provided a few kernel memory configurations, I have only tested with 64-0. Minimo requires a fair amount of memory, and may not perform well with other configurations - If you have success, or indeed failure, please report here!

Slightly updated software may be included in the final release image, but on the whole, this is how it will be. If you notice any show-stopping bugs, please say, and I'll try to fix them ASAP. As the release is planned for tomorrow, likelihood is this image represents the final image almost exactly, so I hope you like it!

I may add to the software located at the link above if the release doesn't happen on time. Packages from the 3.5.2 and 3.5.1 feeds should work ok with this image, but I can't guarantee that.

Known bugs:
- Key shortcuts can't be configured
- Auto-sleep doesn't work
- Alarms don't work during suspend
- 'Control Panel' shortcut doesn't work
- Light control in the 'Screen Setup' application is very erratic
- Enabling visual effects will cause input to stop working - Things will be fine once X has been killed/restarted remotely, or the PDA is restarted
- The MBOpus theme doesn't contain all necessary theme elements to handle docked apps
- Hold for right-click seems not to work over some elements anymore
- GPE's package manager is still mostly unusable for collie (it lacks the ability to install to a non-root location)

Notable fixes/changes since 3.5.1/3.5.2:
- ipkg-link now reads /etc/ipkg.conf
- Resuming from suspend works
- Updated software (Minimo!)
- Changed package destinations (/mnt/cf -> /media/cf/packages, etc.)

Please use this topic for any conversation on problems and solutions related to GPE - I'll do my best to help out.

Updates - 12th April '05

New applications/upgrades in my ipk directory:
-gpe-filemanager (along with gnome-vfs plugins)
-enhanced gxine (along with all necessary libxine plugins, and extra oss audio output plugin)
-updated matchbox (small fixes over the subversion snapshot featured in this image)
-updated gtk (fixes odd behaviour of GtkTreeView widgets)

NB: OZ release happening very soon now (perhaps tomorrow?), so most of this will be included with the OZ release. In the case it gets delayed however, here it is for early-adopters wink.gif

Updates - 13th April '05

-OZ 3.5.3 released, pre-release removed
-gxine, updated matchbox and necessary dependencies upload to official upgrades feed

Note! If you want to play oggs with gxine, you will have to force the downgrade of libvorbisidec to the version contained in the upgrades feed. Hopefully this will be fixed in the future, and will certainly be fixed in future releases.
CoreDump
GPE has come a long way since the 3.5.1 days. It looks damn nice.
Thanks Cwiiis smile.gif
jfv
Hi,
I tried this on a 5000D. You didn't provide a kernel so I used one (24-8) that I had previously downloaded. It gave some warning during boot but booted fine. Some things have improved. Most importantly for me, Tcl/Tk now works fine. Sokoban is cool biggrin.gif . Some things I had the same problems as I reported on my experiments with 3.5.1 and 3.5.2. Does Rosetta work for anybody? It segfaults from the command line.

Felipe
miskinis
Hi,

I've only had a couple hours on it so far, but it is much better
than any previous GPE version I have tried. I've noticed an
issue, where the calender app is launched when using the
control key on the popop-keyboard.

I will be trying more on it during the week, and look foward to
figuring out how to invoke and try minimo.

I also was able to create an X Window from my main linux box
to the Z (SL-5500) , over a WEP-enabled wireless connection,
so I'm really interested in this relase now smile.gif

Great work so far,

John
woloi
WEP ENCRYPTED WIRELESS WORKS!

Sorry, I've been extremely pissed off that it wasn't working for the past few releases, and I haven't had anytime to try and do anything about it, but right now, my Sl-5500 is finally connected to my college WLAN.

Now to just figure out how to use GPE, because I've usually used OPIE before... :-p

One thing I've noticed, the LAN app needs horizontal sliders, it only has vertical ones, makes it hard to read the entire screen.
jfv
How did you guys get wireless working? I went to network setup, checked wifi, configured it with my wep key and tried both "open" and "restricted" (I actually would like to know what these mean, in all other ROMs and computers it's either WEP or no WEP.) anyway, it desn't work for me. My card is a D-Link 650 W and works fine with other ROMs. I looked under PC/CF cards and it had ZCOMAX Airrunner/XI-300, no driver loaded on socket 0 and nothing on socket 1. Does it mean that this ROM doesn't have a driver for this card? Ha, found a list of drivers. Now which one is the right one? If somebody can answer, it will save me a lot of trial and error.

[Edit] The driver is orinoco (?). Anyhow, then the card shows as eth0 and I had to go back to network setup, enter the wep key and choose open (?), then I prayed to the voodoo gods of GPE (most important part) and I was online! [/Edit]

On an unrelated note, does rosetta work for anybody? I've asked many times but never got an answer.

Thanks

Felipe
Cwiiis
jfv - Glad to hear of your success with your wifi card, perhaps you could file a bug about it, along with your solution?

As for rosetta, it works perfectly for me.

I've updated the ipk directory on my web-space with some new software - OZ release should happen tomorrow, but I may offer a slightly more up-to-date image, as some software updates didn't quite make release time (this software will however be in the upgrades feed)

Anyway, check first post for details!

miskinis
Hi,

I used a Socket wifi card with my SL-5000 when I got the WEP connection
working. Today, at work, I briefly used my Linksys wifi card to get a
connection (WEP not in use there). I was actually surprised to see a connection
was established, as I did not change any info in any of the setup tabs, and
it was still set to use WEP, and with my key from home.

I do not remember the details of what I did to setup the eth0 device in
"network setup", but as I remember, I did nothing special, just filled out
the "dialogs", provided my WEP key, etc.

If I remember correctly I saw "managed" today, in the wifi popup, if that
helps. I can look in detail later, to see what I have specified in all of the
tabs, if you are stuck. I get the impression you are experiencing issues
due to the wifi card you are using...

John
jfv
Thanks for the replies. The wifi issue is not really a bug, just lack of documentation. The card is not automatically recognized so I had to select a driver. How to do those things is not immediately clear but I figured them out with some poking around.

Rosetta worked once I added some swap. I guess it's not compiled to run in the constrained environment of a 5000D. Now the trainer hung when I tried to save the new stroke database. Actually, every time I restart, I get some error message about an inaccessible database.

Felipe
miskinis
I've installed minimo, and it shows up in "ipkg list".

How do I invoke it? (I can't find it ! )

Many thanks,

John
Cwiiis
Make sure you've linked it to root (ipkg-link mount /media/sd/packages, for example), then log out and log in and the shortcut should appear in the 'Others' category
miskinis
QUOTE(Cwiiis @ Apr 12 2005, 04:48 PM)
Make sure you've linked it to root (ipkg-link mount /media/sd/packages, for example), then log out and log in and the shortcut should appear in the 'Others' category
*


I need to hunt for, and read up on this "ipkg link" command. I do not see
it listed in the "help" that is produced by invoking "ipkg" with no arguments.

I'm also new to the 64-0 kernel usage, so in the past I have just installed
packages using "ipkg install foo.ipk". I guess I will have to wait until I get
out of work today to research this stuff.

I have konqueror displayed remotely on the Z in the meantime smile.gif

John
ironstorm
QUOTE(miskinis @ Apr 12 2005, 10:56 AM)
I need to hunt for, and read up on this "ipkg link" command. 


ipkg-link is a different command then ipkg - note the dash
woloi
I might be stupid, but how do I get a package list on my Zaurus so it knows how to install a program? Or am I going about that wrong (I haven't used these new builds much, just the old ones from like, a year back).
jfv
Well, it was hanging often but it would come back after flipping the battery switch and rebooting, but now when rebooting it goes to the splash screen and then keeps showing an error message: "unable to open database /root/.gpe/categories" and the message keeps flashing on and off on the screen. I guess is back to the Sharp ROM again...

Felipe
lardman
@jfv: Perhaps your frequent hard resets corrupted the file.

I've no idea what's supposed to be in it - how's about using ssh and touching the file, then see if it gets any further.

@woloi: Connect to the 'net; run ipkg update.

Si
vemp
I have been testing 3.5.3-gpe on my poodle and it looks great. There are just a couple of problems I have come across so far. First my wifi card (WL-672) was reckognized but not working. To get it working I took the orinoco_cs.o module from 3.5.2 and copied it to my sd card and loaded it from there. After I did that and put my wifi card in the net connection came up and a wifi applet in the launcher. The net works great as long as I dont touch that wifi applet. If I do it freezes the device requiring a hard reset. Im doing some more testing now so I will post more info later.

-vol
victorhooi
Hi,

GPE 3.5.3 looks pretty sweet. I for one thought it was worth the wait biggrin.gif Just a few minor niggles.

1. Clicking the Control Panel icon under Settings seems to do absolutely nothing, except flash at you. Is this intentional?

2. For some reason, after an hour of usage, the rotate screen button on the panel no longer works - as in, if you click it absolutely nothing occurs, no feedback or any reaction at all. Also, attempting to change the screen rotation via the Screen Setup capplet under Settings also does absolutely nothing (as in, literally absolutely nothing at all occurs). I realise that this isn't a very good description - is there some way of getting debug/verbose output from this, so I can pass it on to you guys to help figure it out?

Also, is anybody else experiencing the same issue?

3. Likewise, for some strange reason, the Rosetta input seems broken now. Before, I got the cool full-screen input, and I had a funny icon next to the input selector and arrow that you click to enable/disable it. Now, that icon is gone (nor is it on the Add to applet menu), and when I click the Input selector, the old-style handwriting panel pops up (Lowercase, Uppercase, Symbol), and I can't seem to find a way to re-enable full-screen input. What's up with that? Once again, any way to get debug output for this?

4. The networking setup is also kinda weird. I'm trying to follow the instructions here, and here, but once again, absolutely nothing happens (the God of Nothing must have a thing today...lol). As in, no log messages are printed, no modules are loaded.

The Network Setup capplet also seeks rather screwed....

How exactly are you meant to configure the usbd0 interface? It's wasn't listed at the top, so I thought, that's fine, I'll make a new one. But when you attempt to create a new interface called "usbd0", it complains about "This interface definition already exists!". But since there doesn't appear to be any way to access this supposedly already created definition, how are you meant to customize it?

Thanks,
Victor
ronbus
1) I also get nothing when "clicking" the control panel icon.

2) I had the opposite issue with the rotate screen button, it didn't work at first but then started working. I didn't use it that much--I need the PIM from OPIE and haven't figured out how to move my PIM data to GPE yet--so I don't know if it would stop working after a longer time.

3) I didn't have any problem with Rosetta, I really like it. It was on by default.

-Ron
adf
this'll end up in the 6k 353 thread too, I think.

On my 6k gpe is very much better than it had been in 3.5.2. Suspend works, gxine is (though i haven't tested it much) exactly the thing needed for its purpose, etc....

But, I guess I should mention issues I've noticed:

on the 6k , at least, flashing from a factory-fresh state makes a big difference. flashing to oz gpe from previuos custom setups can cause problems.

Minimo, one of my favorite opensource projects, seems crippled this time around. I cannot get it to do stuff like enter passwords on sites. for example when I try to log on to zug I give my username - adf and my password--xxxxxx and get back a messagwe to the effect that i can't be logged in because I haven't entered a user name. This is frustrating. I realize minimo is a big project and maybe mentioning it on the gpe thread doesn't do much good, but if I am to use gpe, then I need a web browser. I would very much prefer that it be minimo. Is this a known problem with this release of minimo? is there a fix, workaround or planned upgrade? would anyone mind postiing dillo in the feeds again if this can't be fixed (patched to handle ssl)? or firefox? I will "reactiviate" my toolch\ain this afternoon, and give a shot a compiling a new minimo , and firefox and dillo.

Ideas comments ponters? Links to a fully funcional minimo? ?

Also, office apps? I realize the Z is not the best platform for running an office, but a good word processor and spreadsheet are nice to have on the Z for occasional use, and opening (stupid) email attachments. abiword and gnumeric used to be in oz/gpe......

Still, despite the minimoo/office thing (both of which are definitely solvable) gpe is starting to look really good. I'll stick with it for a while this time, I think---and i'm really looking forward to the 2.6 thing getting sorted out, and the gui settings stuff being finished (like the wireles app?)
lardman
minimo does passwords for me - have you had the site you're refering to working with minimo before?

Control panel icon also works for me.

What doesn't work is a capital Y.

Abiword is around - try here for example: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/sfeed/

It should be added to the Upgrades feed though.


Si
vlad
QUOTE(Cwiiis @ Apr 5 2005, 06:15 PM)
OZ 3.5.3 release has happened, please skip to the bottom of this post (note: post, not thread) to see updates and information related to the official GPE image.

As I only have a collie, I can't say how the gpe-image will be on other PDAs, but the issues I was concerned with for OZ/GPE 3.5.3 have mostly been resolved now, so I have provided a preview image, along with Minimo, <link removed due to release>. Note that although I have provided a few kernel memory configurations, I have only tested with 64-0. Minimo requires a fair amount of memory, and may not perform well with other configurations - If you have success, or indeed failure, please report here!

Slightly updated software may be included in the final release image, but on the whole, this is how it will be. If you notice any show-stopping bugs, please say, and I'll try to fix them ASAP. As the release is planned for tomorrow, likelihood is this image represents the final image almost exactly, so I hope you like it!

I may add to the software located at the link above if the release doesn't happen on time. Packages from the 3.5.2 and 3.5.1 feeds should work ok with this image, but I can't guarantee that.

Known bugs:
- Key shortcuts can't be configured
- Auto-sleep doesn't work
- Alarms don't work during suspend
- 'Control Panel' shortcut doesn't work
- Light control in the 'Screen Setup' application is very erratic
- Enabling visual effects will cause input to stop working - Things will be fine once X has been killed/restarted remotely, or the PDA is restarted
- The MBOpus theme doesn't contain all necessary theme elements to handle docked apps
- Hold for right-click seems not to work over some elements anymore
- GPE's package manager is still mostly unusable for collie (it lacks the ability to install to a non-root location)

Notable fixes/changes since 3.5.1/3.5.2:
- ipkg-link now reads /etc/ipkg.conf
- Resuming from suspend works
- Updated software (Minimo!)
- Changed package destinations (/mnt/cf -> /media/cf/packages, etc.)

Please use this topic for any conversation on problems and solutions related to GPE - I'll do my best to help out.

Updates - 12th April '05

New applications/upgrades in my ipk directory:
-gpe-filemanager (along with gnome-vfs plugins)
-enhanced gxine (along with all necessary libxine plugins, and extra oss audio output plugin)
-updated matchbox (small fixes over the subversion snapshot featured in this image)
-updated gtk (fixes odd behaviour of GtkTreeView widgets)

NB: OZ release happening very soon now (perhaps tomorrow?), so most of this will be included with the OZ release. In the case it gets delayed however, here it is for early-adopters wink.gif

Updates - 13th April '05

-OZ 3.5.3 released, pre-release removed
-gxine, updated matchbox and necessary dependencies upload to official upgrades feed

Note! If you want to play oggs with gxine, you will have to force the downgrade of libvorbisidec to the version contained in the upgrades feed. Hopefully this will be fixed in the future, and will certainly be fixed in future releases.
*


BTW guys, why it's soooooo slow in my 5500?
adf
that is the weird thing about the minomo issue. I HAve had it work on sites that it isn't working on now. It currently doesn't send a password to ANY site under any method i can come up with.
it is really, really strange. On the other handf it renders better now than i remember it rendering. (or is that just me?))
i am also having issues doing remote x. I keep getting a "no authentication method" error xauth is installed by default. is this a dropbear thing? ought I to pull dropbear and install openssh? I'll do that just in case.
any ideas?
edit: dropbear isn't installed, dillo2 IS in the feed. ooops.
still having that auth method problem

fixed the ssh auth issue.... I had not linked openssh after installing. oops
vemp
Anyone using gpe on a 5600? I think it works better on the 5500 because there is more ram on those machines. With a clean install and a reboot ram usage is at atleast 95%. This is pretty much the only thing holding gpe back from working great on poodle.

I removed all the applets and stopped a lot of programs and i still cant free up more than a total of 3 or 4 mb of ram. Any ideas?
Cwiiis
The RAM usage in the systems information settings is a little misleading, you may have more free than is reported (it is always like that on my collie too, yet it seems to find enough memory to run minimo, prismstumbler, gpe-edit and rxvt, simultaneously, ok smile.gif)
trichmon
Has anyone been able to get alarms to work while suspeneded on any of the non clamshells (5500,5600,6000l). I saw the notes about it not working with collie but I cant seem to get it to work with either my 5600 or 6000l. No errors, nothing in the logs I can find. Just dosent happen. But I get all backed up alarms when the system is turned back on.

edit- sorry i see that its listed here as not working for any model. nevermind
lardman
QUOTE
With a clean install and a reboot ram usage is at atleast 95%


As ever, make sure you've not inlculded chached memory in you total of used, as it's not 'used' in the sense that nothing else can touch it, just doing something useful until another program needs it (when it will be freed and allocated to the prog which requires it).


Si
miskinis
Hi,

I'm still toying with this release, but not sure how wireless networking
control is supposed to function. I can create a connection over WEP
and use the Z as an X server OK.

But, I'm confused as to why the network seems to not come up on a
boot with a CF Wifi card in. If I pull it, and re-insert it, the network
will come up.

I"m also wondering why "cardctl status" does not show any information
for socket 1, when I have an SD card in.

Anyway, this release seems very cool, and I look forward to playing with
it over the weekend, and figuring out how to install and manage packages
on SD. Then it's on to getting JAVA working.

John
Lexx
Here's my feedback. Some of it may have already been posted, but I can't see it hurting if it shows up more than once. smile.gif

~About 2 pixle lines at the bottom of the display is corrupt durring boot. All clean after GPE is up.
~Detects Ambicom WiFi card as ZCOMAX AirRunner/XI-300
~Screen blanked as I was typing into the GPE text editor. Pressing a few keys restored it.
~Panel clock is pretty much unusable when the screen is rotated. May we have an option to have the bar either on the bottom or on the side? I can how having it on the side would be very handy, but an option would be great.
~Audio Mixer - How do you close it? Takes up almost 1/2 the screen. Had to logout/in to get rid of it.
~Logging out (To kill the Audio Mixer) brought me to the timezone adjustment.
~Autologin logs in as root. Can we select which user gets auto logged in?
~Closing a root shell opend from a standard user resulted in the following error: urxvt: can't get colour '#969696' continue without. Selecting OK prompts for the root password.
~Screen Setup - The default brightness level of 10 does not accurately reflect the true bright ness. Adjusting the brightness and then setting it back to 10 does not yeild the same level of brighness as before the change.
That said, the brighness does not stay at the requested value. It snaps back almost immediately back to 10 which is now kind of dark. The brighness applet does allow the setting to be changed.
~Sokoban - Looks good, but the control pad does not follow the screen rotated state.
~Feeds - None of them were listed in the package manager.
~SSh - Worked perfectly once I setup the USB0 interface on the Z. X forwarding worked well in most cases also. smile.gif

I'm getting ready to (a) try and perform an upgrade from the upgrade feed which should prove if the nework setup is correct, if that failes then (cool.gif figure out why (A) didn't work and maybe mirror the upgrade feed to my SD card and upgrade that way.

I'll post a followup once I retest everything should the upgrade go well. smile.gif
Cwiiis
QUOTE(Lexx @ Apr 17 2005, 10:20 AM)
~Screen blanked as I was typing into the GPE text editor. Pressing a few keys restored it.

It's a known bug that if you hold down the right arrow key on collie it suspends - did you do this by any chance?

QUOTE(Lexx @ Apr 17 2005, 10:20 AM)
~Panel clock is pretty much unusable when the screen is rotated. May we have an option to have the bar either on the bottom or on the side? I can how having it on the side would be very handy, but an option would be great.

Have a look at the matchbox documentation at http://projects.o-hand.com/matchbox - Any contributions of patches or applications are welcome

QUOTE(Lexx @ Apr 17 2005, 10:20 AM)
~Audio Mixer - How do you close it? Takes up almost 1/2 the screen. Had to logout/in to get rid of it.

Don't use the MBOpus theme

QUOTE(Lexx @ Apr 17 2005, 10:20 AM)
~Autologin logs in as root. Can we select which user gets auto logged in?

Known bug - Will probably be fixed in the next release, possibly in the upgrades feed in the future

QUOTE(Lexx @ Apr 17 2005, 10:20 AM)
~Closing a root shell opend from a standard user resulted in the following error: urxvt: can't get colour '#969696' continue without. Selecting OK prompts for the root password.

I may fix this at some point, easy to fix bug

QUOTE(Lexx @ Apr 17 2005, 10:20 AM)
~Screen Setup - The default brightness level of 10 does not accurately reflect the true bright ness. Adjusting the brightness and then setting it back to 10 does not yeild the same level of brighness as before the change.
That said, the brighness does not stay at the requested value. It snaps back almost immediately back to 10 which is now kind of dark. The brighness applet does allow the setting to be changed.

Due to unreadable brightness status on collie - Needs to be fixed at kernel level

QUOTE(Lexx @ Apr 17 2005, 10:20 AM)
~Sokoban - Looks good, but the control pad does not follow the screen rotated state.

Missing keymaps, as said before - contributions welcome

QUOTE(Lexx @ Apr 17 2005, 10:20 AM)
~Feeds - None of them were listed in the package manager.

As said in the release notes, gpe-packagemanager is mostly unusable for collie and still in a very early state.

QUOTE(Lexx @ Apr 17 2005, 10:20 AM)
~SSh - Worked perfectly once I setup the USB0 interface on the Z. X forwarding worked well in most cases also. smile.gif

Maybe you could post how you did this in the making connections/synchronisation threads?

QUOTE(Lexx @ Apr 17 2005, 10:20 AM)
I'll post a followup once I retest everything should the upgrade go well. smile.gif


Good luck, and thanks for the feedback smile.gif
kmeaw
Everything is fine, but I have two bugs:
- X server some times just crashes (and restarts); It happends when I don't to anything special: 2 times in gaim, 4 times in rxvt
- Buggy lines on 6000 -- as in 3.5.2, OZ has buggy yellow and blue lines that follow mouse cursor and usually stay near by text fields
kmeaw
QUOTE(kmeaw @ Apr 17 2005, 06:23 PM)
- Buggy lines on 6000 -- as in 3.5.2, OZ has buggy yellow and blue lines that follow mouse cursor and usually stay near by text fields
*

Fixed - download http://kmeaw.com/tmp/Xfbdev.bz2 and unbzip2 in to your /usr/bin. Side effects: key repeat does not work sad.gif
Gondola
Excellent! I don't use the keyboard enough to care about key repeat.


QUOTE(kmeaw @ Apr 18 2005, 02:43 AM)
QUOTE(kmeaw @ Apr 17 2005, 06:23 PM)
- Buggy lines on 6000 -- as in 3.5.2, OZ has buggy yellow and blue lines that follow mouse cursor and usually stay near by text fields
*

Fixed - download http://kmeaw.com/tmp/Xfbdev.bz2 and unbzip2 in to your /usr/bin. Side effects: key repeat does not work sad.gif
*

Gondola
Still buggy. Using sketchbook with the new file now is very bad. When attempting to use a large circular cursor to draw, it becomes very apparent. Lines at least 5-10 pixels wide get added on to the sides of the cursor.



QUOTE(Gondola @ Apr 18 2005, 02:54 AM)
Excellent! I don't use the keyboard enough to care about key repeat.


QUOTE(kmeaw @ Apr 18 2005, 02:43 AM)
QUOTE(kmeaw @ Apr 17 2005, 06:23 PM)
- Buggy lines on 6000 -- as in 3.5.2, OZ has buggy yellow and blue lines that follow mouse cursor and usually stay near by text fields
*

Fixed - download http://kmeaw.com/tmp/Xfbdev.bz2 and unbzip2 in to your /usr/bin. Side effects: key repeat does not work sad.gif
*


*

kmeaw
QUOTE(Gondola @ Apr 17 2005, 07:02 PM)
Still buggy.  Using sketchbook with the new file now is very bad.  When attempting to use a large circular cursor to draw, it becomes very apparent.  Lines at least 5-10 pixels wide get added on to the sides of the cursor.

Yes sad.gif
However, I do not see any other "bugs" on my screen...

If anyone has other versions of Xfbdev, please try them out.

Added: Checking, is it an Xlib-mismatch bug?
Lexx
QUOTE(Lexx @ Apr 17 2005, 10:20 AM)
~Screen blanked as I was typing into the GPE text editor. Pressing a few keys restored it.

It's a known bug that if you hold down the right arrow key on collie it suspends - did you do this by any chance?
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It's possible as I was outdoor watching the kids as I typed. smile.gif I have apoodle though, think it's affected also?

QUOTE(Lexx @ Apr 17 2005, 10:20 AM)
~Panel clock is pretty much unusable when the screen is rotated. May we have an option to have the bar either on the bottom or on the side? I can how having it on the side would be very handy, but an option would be great.

Have a look at the matchbox documentation at http://projects.o-hand.com/matchbox - Any contributions of patches or applications are welcome
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Great! I'll take a read. Trust me, if I could code and contribute I would, but right now I'm limited to VBA (Work) and I am teaching myself Perl/PHP/MySQL. smile.gif

QUOTE(Lexx @ Apr 17 2005, 10:20 AM)
~Audio Mixer - How do you close it? Takes up almost 1/2 the screen. Had to logout/in to get rid of it.

Don't use the MBOpus theme
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I'll check, but I don't think I was, found the themes much later. smile.gif

QUOTE(Lexx @ Apr 17 2005, 10:20 AM)
~Autologin logs in as root. Can we select which user gets auto logged in?

Known bug - Will probably be fixed in the next release, possibly in the upgrades feed in the future
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Ok. Glad to here. smile.gif

QUOTE(Lexx @ Apr 17 2005, 10:20 AM)
~Closing a root shell opend from a standard user resulted in the following error: urxvt: can't get colour '#969696' continue without. Selecting OK prompts for the root password.

I may fix this at some point, easy to fix bug
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Awesome!

QUOTE(Lexx @ Apr 17 2005, 10:20 AM)
~Screen Setup - The default brightness level of 10 does not accurately reflect the true bright ness. Adjusting the brightness and then setting it back to 10 does not yeild the same level of brighness as before the change.
That said, the brighness does not stay at the requested value. It snaps back almost immediately back to 10 which is now kind of dark. The brighness applet does allow the setting to be changed.

Due to unreadable brightness status on collie - Needs to be fixed at kernel level
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I take it the same holds true for Poodle?

QUOTE(Lexx @ Apr 17 2005, 10:20 AM)
~Sokoban - Looks good, but the control pad does not follow the screen rotated state.

Missing keymaps, as said before - contributions welcome
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Wish that I had the skill. Best I can do is offer a list of my findings. sad.gif

QUOTE(Lexx @ Apr 17 2005, 10:20 AM)
~Feeds - None of them were listed in the package manager.

As said in the release notes, gpe-packagemanager is mostly unusable for collie and still in a very early state.
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My fault, to excited to see the progress and I forgot to read the release notes.


QUOTE(Lexx @ Apr 17 2005, 10:20 AM)
~SSh - Worked perfectly once I setup the USB0 interface on the Z. X forwarding worked well in most cases also. smile.gif

Maybe you could post how you did this in the making connections/synchronisation threads?
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I'de be happy to. I'll try and locate it.

QUOTE(Lexx @ Apr 17 2005, 10:20 AM)
I'll post a followup once I retest everything should the upgrade go well. smile.gif

Good luck, and thanks for the feedback smile.gif
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I just I'm providing useful feedback. smile.gif

Sorry for the very bad quoting, but the cascaded quoting didn't seem to work for me. sad.gif
phar
hi, just want to say im a relitively new oz user, but have had some time to use 3.5.2, and upgraded to 3.5.3 aparently days before the official release, so i thought id mention some issues that i have found...

im using 3.5.3 on a sl-5500

first: a flat out bug..

1: press and hold the "home" button on your zaurus..
2: press and hold the "space" button (inset button in the joystick like controller thingie..),

tada, the system crashes. or at the very least seems to, restarting requires flipping the battery switch and rebooting the device..

now this style of crash is important to note, since its been happing a lot in other places, scrolling through the text editor with a large text file, or even scrolling around in the k-browser..


another issue i noticed is sending a jpeg file from a cell phone over infared to the zaurus, the zaurus tries to display a thumbnail of the image, it fails miserably only displaying a grey box..


time, setting the time throught the launchers "get toime from network" feature, only seems to set the time for about a minute, then the clock updates to the previous incorrect time + 1 minute..


the usual package manager stuff, but you seem to know the issues with that already..

sorry for the extensive rant, and dont take it as an indictment in any way, ive tried the most recent zaurus rom, and while more stable.. its really not what i wanted, oz really is, or rather will be once i can rely on it.
lardman
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and upgraded to 3.5.3 aparently days before the official release


I'd flash the official version as these issues may have been patched for the final release (esp. the suspending thing - the others are probably still there - but you should add them to the appropriate bug tracker).

If they are still issues, please let us know.


Si
Cwiiis
QUOTE(phar @ Apr 19 2005, 09:20 AM)
hi, just want to say im a relitively new oz user, but have had some time to use 3.5.2, and upgraded to 3.5.3 aparently days before the official release, so i thought id mention some issues that i have found...

im using 3.5.3 on a sl-5500

first: a flat out bug..

1: press and hold the "home" button on your zaurus..
2: press and hold the "space" button (inset button in the joystick like controller thingie..),

tada, the system crashes. or at the very least seems to, restarting requires flipping the battery switch and rebooting the device..

now this style of crash is important to note, since its been happing a lot in other places, scrolling through the text editor with a large text file, or even scrolling around in the k-browser..


another issue i noticed is sending a jpeg file from a cell phone over infared to the zaurus, the zaurus tries to display a thumbnail of the image, it fails miserably only displaying a grey box..


time, setting the time throught the launchers "get toime from network" feature, only seems to set the time for about a minute, then the clock updates to the previous incorrect time + 1 minute..


the usual package manager stuff, but you seem to know the issues with that already..

sorry for the extensive rant, and dont take it as an indictment in any way, ive tried the most recent zaurus rom, and while more stable.. its really not what i wanted, oz really is, or rather will be once i can rely on it.
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These don't sound like problems with GPE to me.
kmeaw
http://kmeaw.com/tmp/X-nolines.patch.gz seems a way to fix lines on the screen...
Greg2
I decided to try GPE on my poodle, but I've got a small problem... in what package is 'mkswap'?

Greg rolleyes.gif
Greg2
QUOTE(Greg2 @ May 2 2005, 04:40 PM)
I decided to try GPE on my poodle, but I've got a small problem... in what package is 'mkswap'?

OK... my bad.

/sbin/mkswap
/sbin/swapon

One more question... is there a better (larger size fonts) terminal than rxvt, or can I make the font size in rxvt larger for my old eyes? (if so, how?)

Thanks

Greg
lardman
I'm not sure where mkswap would be (you could try ipkgfind.handhelds.org to search for the binary and get a name for which package it'd be in, then find that package in the official feeds - if it's not there, ask hrw to add it to upgrades as I assume it must be in OE somewhere).

Font sizes - Look and Feel in Settings.


Si
Greg2
QUOTE(lardman @ May 3 2005, 07:23 AM)
Font sizes - Look and Feel in Settings.

Thanks lardman, I didn't see that 'terminal font' setting before... this is easier on my eyes.

The GPE image includes mkswap, but I'm used to the Opie command:

# mkswap
with GPE it's:
# /sbin/mkswap

I'm starting to adjust to these little changes, and now I can see without eyestrain.

I would like to suggest for a future release that the feeds for GPE be a bit more consolidated... I have to list '9' feeds for all the dependencies.

Thanks

Greg
lardman
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The GPE image includes mkswap, but I'm used to the Opie command:

# mkswap
with GPE it's:
# /sbin/mkswap


Are you using 'su' to become root? Perhaps use 'su -' (something like that) to also use the root $path settings, then mkswap will work from anywhere.

QUOTE
I would like to suggest for a future release that the feeds for GPE be a bit more consolidated... I have to list '9' feeds for all the dependencies.


Separation of the feed components is a good thing IMO - you shouldn't need to even know anything about this as the various feeds should have been installed automatically in /etc/ipkg/*.conf

Equally, although Opie uses probably 2 feeds fewer (opie rather than x11, gpe and gnome), it still has a fair few seperate ones (base, console, etc.).


Si
Greg2
QUOTE(lardman @ May 3 2005, 09:16 AM)
Perhaps use 'su -' (something like that) to also use the root $path settings, then mkswap will work from anywhere.

Hehe... that helps with a lot of things! It seems as if everyday I learn ... that there is still so much to learn.
QUOTE
Separation of the feed components is a good thing IMO - you shouldn't need to even know anything about this as the various feeds should have been installed automatically in /etc/ipkg/*.conf

Because I feared screwing up my internet connection (very long story) on an iPAQ and my collie... I built a feed on my 340 mb microdrive for this GPE/poodle testing.

Thanks again,

Greg
L1nuxR0x
I installed OZ 3.5.3 (GPE) a few days ago to test it out using a 32/32 configuration on a SL-5500. I can confirm the autologin of root issue, as well as the in-ability of users to log in if their config was changed. I can also confirm the control applet did nothing at all, but the only major problem I found was the inability to sync with the PC. I was able to ping both ways, but that was it, so this morning I decided to try Opie. Right away it communicated with Qtopia 1.7, so it already has a leg up in my case. At this time, I don't remember any other issues that I had with GPE, and the jury is still out on Opie.
koen
QUOTE(L1nuxR0x @ May 10 2005, 08:25 PM)
I installed OZ 3.5.3 (GPE) a few days ago to test it out using a 32/32 configuration on a SL-5500.  I can confirm the autologin of root issue, as well as the in-ability of users to log in if their config was changed.  I can also confirm the control applet did nothing at all, but the only major problem I found was the inability to sync with the PC.  I was able to ping both ways, but that was it, so this morning I decided to try Opie.  Right away it communicated with Qtopia 1.7, so it already has a leg up in my case.  At this time, I don't remember any other issues that I had with GPE, and the jury is still out on Opie.
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GPE is free of Trolltech crap, so qtopia won't work. See http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/GpeSync on how to get gpe to sync using multisync
mmoralls
Hello,

I have a SL-5500 (and am a newbie) and after hassling with Opie and the package manager not working good I'm trying the GPE image. Trying to install abiword but a few dependencies are needed. I found the other files and put them all on cf card and ready to go but understand it's pkg mgr isn't working 100% unsure.gif .

[QUOTE]GPE's package manager is still mostly unusable for collie (it lacks the ability to install to a non-root location)

If I am just logging in as root how do I select multiple files to install? What are the key(s) to use to do this?

Thanks for the help
JohnKiniston
I've run into a problem with the 3.5.3 GPE x-terminal-emulator on my 5500.

When I use the root terminal I dont have the ablility to hit function c to send a ctrl-c.

Also if I pop up the onscreen keyboard and do a ctrl-c I get the calendar app!

Oh, and if I use the onscreen keyboard to send a escape the terminal quits!

Anyone else seeing this?
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