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guylhem
Hello

The first release of the guylhem rom has been uploaded to externe.net/zaurus/guylhem-rom

Installation is as simple as promised, but it's a hackers only preliminary, as it's full textmode, you need to put qtopia on a SD, and the Fn/A keys have been inverted for qtopia. Yet I though it was overdue, and that's still a good working base.

You will get:
- my latest fast kernel with squashfs
- root in r/w mode with a cleaned filesystem
- a single root partition - 58 Mb
- only 12 Mb used, so you can install pdaxrom or whatever you want (say sharp qtopia-1.5 :-)
- the new keyboard scheme to make internal and external keyboard work together.

Get the nandbackup and qtopia-1.5.tgz, then follow the instructions in README. Don't untar qtopia-1.5 in the flash - put it on a SD, since it's quite big : there's every application I have on my zaurus.

Attention : until the keyboard is fixed, I had to invert key "A" and "fn" in Qtopia 1.5 because someone hardcoded fn keycode value into qtopia binary libs :-( I'm working on a fix but it's not ready yet. Don't complain - there's nothing I can do yet.

The next release will be identical to that one except it will have the keyboard stuff fixed (hopefully !) and it will ship with a minimal qtopia 1.5 in flash.

I'm interested in any feedback - I will create a dedicated page and forum on externe.net which was attacked last week :-(

If you are satisfied or want to help, donation to paypal@externe.net or technical help is welcome. I'd be especially interested if someone could purchase a 128 Mb flash chip (the various company I've contacted won't export to France and won't sell a single chip either) to try some hardware upgrade on the 6000

PS: could someone who still has qtopia-2.1 flashed it make a tarball of it? I'm having problems with the initrd.bin from qtopia.net and I don't feel like reflashing again and again- I'd rather use that time to work on new cool stuff.

---------------- README -------------------


1. Installation instructions for Guylhem ROM for the Sharp Tosa SL-6000:
########################################################################

1. Put syst0006.dbk on a compact flash
2. Open a console, type "sync ; reboot"
3. When you see sharp logo at reboot, simultaneously press on D and M
button, then without releasing D and M, press reset on the back of your
Zaurus, then without releasing D and M, press power button
4. You will be rebooting into "Diagnostic Mode". Press on right button
until you see "Nand Restore" then press ok ok
5. Go and take a coffee.
6. When it's done it will say "Restore... OK" and the bottom bar will
be green - you can now reset.
7. You will reboot in command line mode. Type "root" to log it.
Shift + Power will scroll up, Shift + Rec will scroll down.
A long press on Record will open a new login shell if needed.
8. You need a Qtopia in /mnt/card/ (that's because this version lets you
choose between Qtopia 1.5 and 2.1) : simply pick up which one you want
and uncompress it in your SD card formatted in ext2. If you want to put it in
your CF instead, change the symlinks from /opt and /home to
/mnt/cf/QtPalmtop

This is the first and experimental release, therefore no Qtopia was
selected for you.

2. If you want to do that again at home
#######################################

Read tweaking-parts.txt, create-jffs2-initrd.sh ; create your own
zImage1 and initrd1, put them on a Compact Flash and use updater.sh

In the next version, the application keys will be used to change between
virtual consoles, along with other small modifications.

4. Roadmap
##########

Version 1.0 : stable with Kernel 2.4.18-guylhem, Externe distribution (based on Embedix hard float), Qtopia 1.5 Sharp included in the flash

Version 1.2 : Kernel 2.4.18-guylhem, Externe distribution (based on Embedix soft float or OpenEmbedded), Qtopia 1.5 Sharp included in the flash

Version 1.4 : Kernel 2.4.18-guylhem, Externe distribution (based on OpenEmbedded soft float), Qtopia 2.1 TrollTech

Version 2.0 : Kernel 2.6.xx, Externe distribution (based on OpenEmbedded soft float), Qtopia 2.1 TrollTech

5. Helping
##########

Donations to paypal@externe.net are welcome if you like that ROM. If you
prefer donating Zaurus hardware, that's fine too. I'd be especially happy
if I could get a spare SL-6000 battery...

Technical help is welcome, especially to integrate Qtopia 2.1 to OpenEmbedded

If someone could find me a Toshiba 128Mb Nand chip TH58100FT or a Samsung
128Mb Nand chip K9K1G08U0M to replace the 64 Mb of flash by 128 Mb, I'm
also **very** interested.
gab74
Ok i try :
I follow your instructions.....

Using : QtPalmtop.rom.tar.gz on my SD CARD , Qtopia starts but fonts are corruptet and when i try to set TIME AND DAY.....even if fonts are corrupted...it hangs....and the clepsydra remains...

Using: Qtopia-1.5.tgz when rebooting Zaurus Hangs the screen remains on "

CG SILICON ....Please wait for approximately 30 seconds......

Any helps, i'm very interested in your rom !
guylhem
the tgz is faulty. The corrupted fonts is normal : go to appearance (desktop) icon in the settings menu and uncheck "use bold fonts" - voila, normal fonts

You then have an empty qtopia that can receive applications from cacko feed.

Regarding the clock app problem, I've no clue at the moment :-/ Any help is appreciated. I'm still waiting for someone to send me C1000 files to fix the Fn/A problem
adf
very cool. it makes me wonder how hard a deb bootstrap would to setup given the less crazed filesystem. I guess woody would be the most convenient target--gcc 2.9 and all----. but real native woody on a z would be pretty powerful.

what would be needed?
an x server that handled the interfaces correctly--how hard would that be--what would be the problems?
what else? dpkg, debconf ? wget?. the idea that this setup can become largely "os" swappable is interesting
guylhem
the rom was made like that on purpose. no gui - use whatever you want. pdaxrom, cacko etc - most of the time just copy the binaries and that's it.
adf
now, of course, the issue is to get some more binaries together smile.gif (though cacko is a good pick to start with, I think)

maybe if you posted a very detailed and explicit how-to on getting useable binaries on externe more people would work at it?
I'll play with that some this weekend. Have to check out the new OZ too.
gab74
QUOTE(guylhem @ Apr 13 2005, 07:03 AM)
the tgz is faulty. The corrupted fonts is normal : go to appearance (desktop) icon in the settings menu and uncheck "use bold fonts" - voila, normal fonts

You then have an empty qtopia that can receive applications from cacko feed.

Regarding the clock app problem, I've no clue at the moment :-/ Any help is appreciated. I'm still waiting for someone to send me C1000 files to fix the Fn/A problem
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Sorry , but i do not understand what qtopia tgz i have to use ....
on http://www.externe.net/zaurus/guylhem-rom/ i see 2 qtopia
QtPalmtop.rom.tar.gz
Qtopia-1.5.tgz

What is the right one ? Thanks for your patience..... I follow your README ....

When i use QtPalmtop.rom.tar.gz qtopia starts but it is too too slow and Zaurus hungs on set Time and date screen...

2..applications from cacko feed. ? Where can i download these applications ?

Sorry, but i'm new for this.....
kmeaw
Hi, guylhem! Very good work. Here are my suggestions:
- add kernel patch, that makes framebuffer console faster (as in OpenZaurus)
- remove non-working apps (fbvnc)
- remove qtopia (or somewhat, it says to wait xx secs) autoloading
- add external usb keyboard support module
adf
QUOTE(kmeaw @ Apr 14 2005, 12:36 PM)
Hi, guylhem! Very good work. Here are my suggestions:
- add kernel patch, that makes framebuffer console faster (as in OpenZaurus)
- remove non-working apps (fbvnc)
- remove qtopia (or somewhat, it says to wait xx secs) autoloading
- add external usb keyboard support module
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there is a working fbvnc to be found from the pocketworkstation site. maybe put that in?
surely there is a usb keyboard module in there? maybe t isn't loading?

I think the idea here is that the gui tarballs and the QtPalmtop.rom dirs are kind of extraneous--- it is a pick and choose situation right now.

I am interested in the possibility of using OZ gpe in the way that cacko is being used here (or pdaxrom)
suggestions (since obviously tthere will be no qtopia to load....)?
zipmaster
great now im gonna have to go out and get another sd card to play with this proper tongue.gif how big is Qt untared?
adf
QUOTE(zipmaster @ Apr 14 2005, 04:34 PM)
great now im gonna have to go out and get another sd card to play with this proper tongue.gif how big is Qt untared?
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it will untar to /opt. can't be all that big if it fits there.
offroadgeek
QUOTE(guylhem @ Apr 9 2005, 10:51 AM)
I will create a dedicated page and forum on externe.net which was attacked last week :-(
*

I hope you don't mind but I created a dedicated forum for you here and made you moderator. Let me know if you need anything else.

Regards
adf
I was wondering how long this thread would get before it got moved smile.gif
guylhem
thanks offroadgeek - feel free to move that thread and the fast kernel thread to the new forum.

However I may still try to fix my forums anyway (if only to say f*ck to the cracker :->)

Don't take that personally - I'm very happy you provided such help, but I'm also strongly attached to ibiblio and I'd best like to have my work hosted there. [I am concerned about long term hosting, and ibiblio is king there]

This doesn't mean I won't participate to oesf forum - in the last months my forums where up and I was here anyway - I'll be happy to participate to both :-)

Thanks again for your assistance with my rom for the 6000. I hope it will help fellow 6000 users.

Now let's work on a better rom !

Guylhem
guylhem
kmeaw, OZ 2.6 kernel is planned, but not immediately (cf roadmap)

fbvnc is here by mistake. I though it was on /opt. However it should work - I'm using it often.

Regarding external usb module, if ppl here say which module they need, maybe adf and me could compile them? That's simple - just say what you miss, and we'll make it.
gab74
Using : QtPalmtop.rom.tar.gz on my SD CARD , Qtopia starts but fonts are corruptet and when i try to set TIME AND DAY.....even if fonts are corrupted...it hangs....and the clepsydra remains...

Using: Qtopia-1.5.tgz when rebooting Zaurus Hangs the screen remains on "

CG SILICON ....Please wait for approximately 30 seconds......

Have anyone had these problems ?
Anyone can help me to solve these problems ?
kmeaw
fbvnc requires some libs, that are missing in rom -- but they can be found in Qtopia libs.
What about video4linux support? It would be very nice to have -- i have GeniusV4 web camera (supported by spca50x module) and spcaview that outputs video stream to screen (SDL) and/or file smile.gif
I found, that apm binary is missing sad.gif (but one from SharpROM works).
Would it be a QT- or X11-based ROM?
adf
From the roadmap it looks like guylhem is tending toward an qt based rom. This makes sense, as the rom he is designeing will alllow drop replacemnacement guis for people who want to do that--giving access to x11 based stuff, and because there really needs to be a good qt2 6000 rom.

If you read through the fast kernel thread you will find means to access my ftp site. I suspect that the modules there might have v4l. I can't swear to it, because i prefer to hard compile v4l support, but you might check--- i mad a pretty complete set of modules....and if v4l is missing it was an oversight.
eji
Can anyone tell me if the Guylhem ROM is totally ready for prime time? I'd really like to flash to something with a bit more robustness and optimization (preferably with the QT 2.x GUI) than the default Sharp ROM, but it looks like a lot of bugs are still being worked out. Is that really the case? And will I have to sacrifice any functionality/compatibility when flashing to the Guylhem ROM?
adf
[it is not.

THE ROM is setup alittle differently fom most others, having an essential commandline component, version 1 of which seems almost done. The las release has ctrl and a swirched in qtopia, otherwise seemed pretty good.
the second component is a gui rootfs. this will at first be a qtopia 1.5. This too is nearly (as of last week) ready. Guylhem is tweaking the whole thing. I'd keep an eye out for an anouncement soon.
Jinidog
What is the advantage of this over OpenZaurus?
Is it compatible with an SL5600?

If this release is not ready, would it be an advantage to take guyhelms kernel instead of the OpenZaurus one?

Sorry, it's hard to get into all this for a beginner.
(I'll get a SL5600 tomorrow or so)
gfdsa
Hi

I've tried yesterday to flash this rom on my z6k, evrey thing went pretty smooth, but there was some issues that may be fixed.

1. /sbin/qt runs e2fsck and it is not attached to the console, so if it finds an error on fs and ask a confirmation, its impossible to do an input, after some seconds it freezes the console, no buttons work, i did not try to login through telnet, but if i remove one of the storage cards, messages are appearing on the console, so i suspect the kernel and daemons are running. This e2fsk should be runned with -a and attached to console.
2. I extracted Qtopia.tar.gz and fired qpe.sh, at first run fonts look unreadable, it can be fixed in desktop settings by unchecking "thick fonts" on fonts tab. So it should be fixed in the tarball itself, if this cacko tarball will stay for some time as main gui. I have already seen someone complains about it in another thread.
3. Also, rotation is unusable because there semm to be no rotated fonts, all the strings dissapear after rotation.
guylhem
You're right, the qtopia 1.5 got some bugs.

Thanks for posting the solutions (I though I had?). If you have some time, I'm still trying to figure out how to fix magnifications crashes and date/time problems. Just found another bug : netsetup apps crashes when you click on "add"

Something weird is happening. IMHO it's all linked.
adf
3 things (I'm loading the cacko image right now --with the new kernel. I plasn to take another shot at pocketworkstation vnc tonight

1). the e2fsck stuff is annoying sometimes, but seeme to release the console after a little while, and can be circumvented by simply opening a new shell

2) if qtopia 1.5/cacko (i prefer cacko if feasable) is becoming a pain maybe spend the time on qtopia 2.1 instead? that would give a more desireable result in the end. (and the basic rom lpotter did --the new one is quite nice btw-- runs about 23 megs installed a very nice size for this setup smile.gif

3). More info on the tosa.map thing. I saved it --save link as saved it as html..i just snipped off the html.

all that is required is loadmap tosa.map? that should fix key, where? (I am trying to figure out why the keymap in pocketworkstation/vnc is such a mess. If this can fix it that would be really handy)
eji
QUOTE(adf @ May 6 2005, 09:39 PM)
2) if qtopia 1.5/cacko (i prefer cacko if feasable) is becoming a pain maybe spend the time on qtopia 2.1 instead?  that would give a more desireable result in the end.
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Yes, I agree with adf. Please work with 2.1 instead. It'll probably bring this ROM to where it's already headed more quickly and with fewer bumps along the way.
adf
Back in the world of Pocketworkstation/vnc. No joy on the keymaps yet. Tried the tricks that work with Xqt... using xmodmap .xmodmaprc (smuelas' xmodmaprc) just gives errors.
I emailed Klauss W. in the hope that if he has time he might shed some light. there remains (for me at least)the issue of getting my ir kbd working in PW/vnc too.... it talks to ttys01...if anyone has some insight?


any luck w/ the native debian approach?
guylhem
What's preventing me from going with 2.1 is it can't run many 1.5 apps. It's even worse than going with OZ in terms of compatibility.

But maybe it has changed? Last time I couldn't run opie-reader and sharp commercial apps however.
adf
potter has links up to opera, for example, right with the rom.

maybe I should backup, flash to default, flash to 2.1. and see. (the pocketworkstation keymap thing is still not solved) if it works I'll try to back up 2.1 and run it in guylhem rom.

That would take care of this afternnon smile.gif
adf
2.1 wouldn't install much of anything. Opera installs, but crashes imeediatley. netfron doesn't start, alians doesn't start. I used the oz ln -sf /opt/QtPalmtop/opera /usr/share opare bit , and tried MrSquishy's prefabbed opera 7.55 for Oz. no good

It is, though, I suspect as much a product of directory structure (being oz 2.1 based) as anything.

back to poking at pocketworkstation
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