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Meanie
does openoffice run under pocketworkstation with x/qt?
adf
If it is in debian-arm, it should. I think it is going to be too heavy to be much fun on a z, though. Have you tried abiword and gnumeric? (not that i am saying "don't use openoffice.." I just think you might want other options soon)
Chero
Hello,

It does work : read this thread (post 65).

Chero.
Meanie
QUOTE(Chero @ Apr 30 2005, 04:07 AM)
Hello,

It does work : read this thread (post 65).

Chero.
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Thanks, this will help tremenduously. I finally get to run openoffice on my Z. My company has banned MS Office and everyone uses StarOffice so HancomWord wasn't really useful for opening star office documents.
I'll try abiword as well and see what it can do. For me the main thing is to be able to open star office documents and convert them to .doc or .pdf so I can edit and view them with other apps. smile.gif
Meanie
wow, OpenOffice runs very nicely under PocketWorkstation. It just takes a bit to load but once loaded it is great!
Scot
Thread hijack:

Meanie: re: your English conversion - are Sharp program menus also displayed
in English and Japanese? If I install and uninsall the .ipk you have on your www site,
can I go back and forth between stock locale setup and yours??

Also- thanks for that great page- I'm going to try X soon, but haven't yet - I'll definitely be
using your page as a resource!

Thanks,

scot
adf
QUOTE(Meanie @ May 1 2005, 09:33 AM)
wow, OpenOffice runs very nicely under PocketWorkstation. It just takes a bit to load but once loaded it is great!
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that is a "wow!" I expected it to be a pig. Thanks!
Meanie
QUOTE(Scot @ May 2 2005, 03:45 AM)
Thread hijack:

Meanie: re: your English conversion - are Sharp program menus also displayed
in English and Japanese? If I install and uninsall the .ipk you have on your www site,
can I go back and forth between stock locale setup and yours??

Also- thanks for that great page- I'm going to try X soon, but haven't yet - I'll definitely be
using your page as a resource!

Thanks,

scot
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Scot,

version 0.1 only converts without allowing you to change back. version 0.2 will allow you to switch back and fro, but I am not sure when I have time to finish 0.2 since I have so many other things to play with.

It is possible to have the application menus show both english and japanese, but in 0.1 most sharp apps are just english with some like the themes and network config applet with english and japanese. The menu tabs and the text under the icons are english and japanese. Would anyone be interested in more screenshots?

I am currently working on converting FileLaunch into English and initially tried to have the application menu items in FileLaunch in both english and japanese but then I scrapped it and changed it to english only because it looked too cluttered. well having both english and japanese on the menus makes the menus bigger (wider) so I went to making them english only.
Scot
QUOTE(Meanie @ May 1 2005, 08:21 PM)
version 0.1 only converts without allowing you to change back. version 0.2 will allow you to switch back and fro, but I am not sure when I have time to finish 0.2 since I have so many other things to play with.

I...Would anyone be interested in more screenshots?

... well having both english and japanese on the menus makes the menus bigger (wider) so I went to making them english only.
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Thanks, Meanie. Yes- I would like to see more screenshots, and I will take this opportunity to
officially encourage you to work on version 0.2, but thank you already for the work you've done so far!

I've always used Japanese Zauruses and my Japanese is still pretty elementary, but the older
zauri (pre-Linux) were simple enough, my limited knowledge of the language and trial and error were
enough to get me by. The c3000 has enough complexity that I find I occasonlly need to change
locales to see how things operate. I don't want to run completely in English, since forcing myself
to use Japanese helps me learn.

Thanks again,

scot
Kedge
Does anyone knows if its possible to run Openoffice (especially the spreadsheet app) directly under X/QT without debian? In another thread I asked this question concerning gnumeric, which would also be fine.

kedge
Meanie
QUOTE(Scot @ May 3 2005, 03:48 AM)
QUOTE(Meanie @ May 1 2005, 08:21 PM)

version 0.1 only converts without allowing you to change back. version 0.2 will allow you to switch back and fro, but I am not sure when I have time to finish 0.2 since I have so many other things to play with.

I...Would anyone be interested in more screenshots?

... well having both english and japanese on the menus makes the menus bigger (wider) so I went to making them english only.
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Thanks, Meanie. Yes- I would like to see more screenshots, and I will take this opportunity to
officially encourage you to work on version 0.2, but thank you already for the work you've done so far!

I've always used Japanese Zauruses and my Japanese is still pretty elementary, but the older
zauri (pre-Linux) were simple enough, my limited knowledge of the language and trial and error were
enough to get me by. The c3000 has enough complexity that I find I occasonlly need to change
locales to see how things operate. I don't want to run completely in English, since forcing myself
to use Japanese helps me learn.

Thanks again,

scot
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Scott,

I think in your case, it is as simple as moving the .qm files in and out of the .hide directory to display either english or japanese menus.


Kedge,

gnumeric will work under X/Qt but Open Office will need to be run under Debian for the time being until someone figures out what libraries OO requires and writes some wrappers for them. (Don't look at me, I am way too busy with other things wink.gif
Scot
QUOTE(Meanie @ May 3 2005, 05:12 AM)
I think in your case, it is as simple as moving the .qm files in and out of the .hide directory to display either english or japanese menus.


Of course - this works well. If I'm only slightly clever, I can make a little script to do this back and
forth as I need:
english netsetup
restore netsetup

english:
mv /home/QtPalmtop/i18n/ja/$1.qm .hide

restore:
mv /home/QtPalmtop/i18n/ja/.hide/$1.qm /home/QtPalmtop/i18n/ja

or somethng similar...
thanks!

scot
Kedge
QUOTE(Meanie @ May 3 2005, 12:12 PM)
Kedge,

gnumeric will work under X/Qt but Open Office will need to be run under Debian for the time being until someone figures out what libraries OO requires and writes some wrappers for them. (Don't look at me, I am way too busy with other things wink.gif
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So I have to take an arm-Version of gnumeric and the needed libs and it should run? Can you give me some specific instructions what to do?

kedge
Kedge
QUOTE(Kedge @ May 4 2005, 06:30 AM)
QUOTE(Meanie @ May 3 2005, 12:12 PM)
Kedge,

gnumeric will work under X/Qt but Open Office will need to be run under Debian for the time being until someone figures out what libraries OO requires and writes some wrappers for them. (Don't look at me, I am way too busy with other things wink.gif
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So I have to take an arm-Version of gnumeric and the needed libs and it should run? Can you give me some specific instructions what to do?

kedge
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Bump. Can anyone help how to run gnumeric (or X apps in common) under X/QT without Debian pocketworkstation.

kedge
Meanie
try the gnumeric package provided by pdaxrom. it might just work
ShiroiKuma
Is the OpenOffice included with your JumboXQt package broken somehow, Meanie?

I can't open any Word files with it.

For instance, I just created a file with the text: "Test test test".

This is how the OpenOffice opens it: attchmnt screen002.jpg

Yet Abiword opens it fine, even my desktop OpenOffice has no problem.

And it's not a font issue, no matter which font I try, it's still all garbled up.

What's the problem here?
Stubear
QUOTE(rehorrericha @ Aug 4 2005, 06:10 AM)
Is the OpenOffice included with your JumboXQt package broken somehow, Meanie?

I can't open any Word files with it.

For instance, I just created a file with the text: "Test test test".

This is how the OpenOffice opens it: attchmnt screen002.jpg

Yet Abiword opens it fine, even my desktop OpenOffice has no problem.

And it's not a font issue, no matter which font I try, it's still all garbled up.

What's the problem here?
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The problem is that you have used MS Mincho as the font and probably don't have Japanese support activated in openoffice. Are you changing the font in Word or in openoffice?

If you are using a Japanese system to write the word doc, make sure you are using single char alpha and not double char as this would give the garbledness you are seeing

stu
ShiroiKuma
QUOTE(Stubear @ Aug 4 2005, 02:10 AM)
The problem is that you have used MS Mincho as the font and probably don't have Japanese support activated in openoffice. Are you changing the font in Word or in openoffice?

If you are using a Japanese system to write the word doc, make sure you are using single char alpha and not double char as this would give the garbledness you are seeing
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This is actually not the case. I have Japanese support activated in OpenOffice and there was only plain text, using the Times font.

However I have experimented with it and found out that if I save the file as Word 97 format, OpenOffice opens it no problem.

Conversely also, if I create a document in OpenOffice on the Z, Word won't open it, it complains about incorrect path to the document (?)

Anyway if I save it as Word 97 in OpenOffice then Word opens it no prob.

Surely there must be something with OpenOffice on the Z that does it, since my desktop OpenOffice doesn't suffer from any of these problems, i.e. it opens the docs no prob and the documents it creates can be opened in Word no prob.

Why's this?
ShiroiKuma
I have one more question.

Why can't I select some fonts in OpenOffice.

For instance I have ttf-kochi-gothic and ttf-kochi-mincho installed. In Abiword I can select them and type text with them. In OpenOffice though the dropdown list in the font selection doesn't show them as options, so I can't select them.

Why?
ShiroiKuma
Edit: Updated the insallation instructions here, to not have broken dependencies in debian.

I've solved the issue with OpenOffice not recognizing installed fonts. It seems to me something is wrong with the way OpenOffice is installed using the OOo_SRX645_linuxarm_install.tar.gz file or using Meanie's cramfs image. On top of not recognizing fonts, I couldn't switch the locale of OpenOffice to Japanese.

So I've fiddled with it and this is how I installed OpenOffice that uses all the fonts on the system and that has a Japanese locale, i.e. all the menus in Japanese...

From the page of the author who compiled OpenOffice for arm download the file:
openoffice.org-bin_1.1.4-1_arm.deb

From Debian OpenOffice page download the following files:
openoffice.org-l10n-en_1.1.4-7_all.deb
openoffice.org-l10n-ja_1.1.4-7_all.deb
openoffice.org_1.1.4-7_all.deb
ttf-opensymbol_2.0.0-2_all.deb


From Debian OpenOffice Debian files page download the file:
openoffice.org-debian-files_1.1.4-6+1_all.deb

From the attachment to this message download libneon23_0.23.9.dfsg.3_arm.zip and unzip it.

Put all the above files in one directory. I use /mnt/cf/InstallDebian/OpenOffice

Then, run the following:
CODE
apt-get install dpkg-multicd
cd /mnt/cf/InstallDebian/OpenOffice
dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null | gzip -9 > Packages.gz


You should see something like this:
CODE
** Packages in archive but missing from override file: **
...

Wrote 8 entries to output Packages file.


Then edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file and at the end add a line
CODE
deb file:/mnt/cf/InstallDebian/OpenOffice ./


Then run the following:
CODE
apt-get update
apt-get upgrade
apt-get install openoffice.org openoffice.org-l10n-ja
dpkg-reconfigure openoffice.org-l10n-ja


And that's it, it'll run no prob now.

Then start OpenOffice by typing
CODE
ooffice


When it comes up go to Tools => Options => Language Setting => Languages
There select Japanese for locale setting and hit OK
Then exit OpenOffice.

Done.

Now when you start it again, it'll come up in Japanese.

Furthermore, you can use all the fonts that you have installed in Debian, unlike with the OpenOffice from Meanie's file, where I couldn't...

The only issue which seems to be permanent with OpenOffice for arm is that you must save the documents in Word 97 format to be able to open them in Word and vice versa, from Word you also have to save in Word 97 to be able to open in OpenOffice.

At least I haven't found a way to fix this. And the prob doesn't exist in my desktop OpenOffice version, so it's somehow connected with this...
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