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omro
Hey all,

I asked for an idiot's guide, here I'm gonna try and write one.

I have a C1000, a 512mb CF card and 1gb SD card.

1. Go to Meanie's site and have a look at the page about all this!

At the bottom of this page download from the links available the following files:

Updated debian install script
Updated version of xqt-debian-scripts (version 0.5)

2. Go to chuckster's website and download the following files:

xqt-gtk-jumbopack_0.4.3-0.6_arm.zip
zaurus-debian-doc-v18.tar.gz
zaurus-debian-jumbo-v18-b01.tar.gz
zaurus-debian-openoffice114.tar.gz

3. Put all of these files onto your compact flash card (I put every file on the root), unzipping the three .zip files first and put the CF card into your zaurus.

4. I recommend you plug in your Zaurus and set most of the power saving settings to maximum run times, so the Zaurus won't go into power save or start a screen saver while you're doing this.

5. Using the Zaurus' Add/Remove software program, install xqt-gtk-jumbopack. This takes a little while. When it's done it might say that it is dependent on another package, mine did and it never stopped it working, so I ignored it.

6. Using the Zaurus' Add/Remove software program, install xqt-debian-scripts.

7. Open up a command console and format your SD card as ext2 using the following code.

CODE
# su
# umount /mnt/card
# mkfs.ext2 /dev/mmcda1
# mount -t ext2 /dev/mmcda1 /mnt/card
# mkdir /mnt/card/debroot


8. Still in the same command console go to the cf card and run the installer script file:

CODE
# cd /mnt/cf
# ./xqt-debian-install.sh /mnt/card/debroot


Again this takes a fairly long time to run.

9. Once this has run, still in the same command console type:

CODE
# xlauncher debian


After a bit of a wait, debian should open.
From within here you can use the "start" menu and find open office and open that, and after another bit of a wait, that too should open.

I seriously hope this helps people!

If I've made a mistake, or missed something out, please tell me and I'll correct it.
Meanie
One thing, you don't need to format your SD card to ext2, but it sure would make Debian run faster. However, in order to take advantage of the ext2 filesystem, you should had commented out DEBIMG (put a # in front of it) in the debian install script. That way it could had just installed directly onto your ext2 formatted disk without creating the pocketworkstation loop file which is only needed if you dont have a ext2 formatted disk, ie if its vfat/fat32.

But anyway, have fun smile.gif PocketWorkstation already comes with quite a lot of applications installed, but I had to add my favourites, Firefox, Thunderbird, OpenOffice and Eterm.

If you have the space, then you might consider expanding the openoffice cram image to make it load a bit faster. Also running it natively on a ext2 SD (without the loop device) also makes it faster. Ultimately, running it off a CF card would make it fastest. I am going to go on a shopping trip soon (next week) and will be away for 1 month and hopefully will get myself a new 4 GB CF card or even the new 8 GB one smile.gif It's gonna be me and my Zaurus and shop tilll I drop kind of thing cool.gif , lots of booze and sunny beaches as well.
rebski
After such a fantastic effort you deserve a holiday. Have a great one, happy spending and let us know what Zaurus items you bought.

One last thing, just so I can have something to do while you are away, in your XQt description you say “The Mozilla Thunderbird package from pdaXrom [thunderbird_0.6_armv5tel.ipk] works with X/Qt on the C3000, however, there might be some dependent libraries missing. I have build a thunderbird package [thunderbird_0.6-1_arm.ipk] which includes hopefully all the missing libraries..”

It might solve my problems to have thunderbird_0.6-1_arm.ipk, where can I find it please?
omro
Thanks for the advice meanie! :-)

I'll redo it all when the cacko rom is available. However, as it stands now, I'm just so happy with it all :-)
Cresho
how fast does it run?
omro
QUOTE(Cresho @ Jul 26 2005, 05:38 PM)
how fast does it run?
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Once it's open, it's ok, a bit of a delay if you do anything complicated or mess about in the menus.

But opening up takes a fair while, as does opening files.

OOo is a bit of a bloater on mac G4 1.2ghz PowerBook, so am not that surprised.
samxiao
i tried it
and it works for me


but how do i install those Firefox/Abiword package into SD ?
samxiao
how do i quit/exit from X?
i can't go back to my Application/PIM tabs in Qtopia
X seems cover up my entire Qtopia except the taskbar at the bottom
benplaut
QUOTE(samxiao @ Jul 27 2005, 09:42 AM)
how do i quit/exit from X?
i can't go back to my Application/PIM tabs in Qtopia
X seems cover up my entire Qtopia except the taskbar at the bottom
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there's probably an applet out there somewhere that can give you a sort of "task manager", and that would mean it's accessable from the taskbar cool.gif
omro
QUOTE(samxiao @ Jul 27 2005, 11:35 AM)
i tried it
and it works for me


but how do i install those Firefox/Abiword package into SD ?
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I'm afraid I don't know, I've not tried to install either of these.

Firefox is already in the debian, btw.
omro
QUOTE(samxiao @ Jul 27 2005, 11:42 AM)
how do i quit/exit from X?
i can't go back to my Application/PIM tabs in Qtopia
X seems cover up my entire Qtopia except the taskbar at the bottom
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If you tap on any non X apps on the qtopia task bar, that seems to revert emphasis back to Qtopia, so at that point you can press the buttons on the Z, otherwise they don't seem to work.

If you tap some of the desktop in X and press the menu key, you get the chance to fullscreen or terminate X.
samxiao
thanks omro
it works


i also wonder how to i create a run script and .desktop file just like those in the jumbo package

because i use 'apt-get' install few X applications (like gpsdrive)
i wonder how do i make a .desktop and a run script so i can run directly from Qtopia and launch X together
omro
QUOTE(samxiao @ Jul 28 2005, 10:17 AM)
thanks omro
it works


i also wonder how to i create a run script and .desktop file just like those in the jumbo package

because i use 'apt-get' install few X applications (like gpsdrive)
i wonder how do i make a .desktop and a run script so i can run directly from Qtopia and launch X together
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No clue sorry. None of the debian icons work for me in the X/QT tab. I just use the xlauncher command from the console
samxiao
QUOTE(omro @ Jul 28 2005, 02:24 PM)
QUOTE(samxiao @ Jul 28 2005, 10:17 AM)
thanks omro
it works


i also wonder how to i create a run script and .desktop file just like those in the jumbo package

because i use 'apt-get' install few X applications (like gpsdrive)
i wonder how do i make a .desktop and a run script so i can run directly from Qtopia and launch X together
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No clue sorry. None of the debian icons work for me in the X/QT tab. I just use the xlauncher command from the console
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just use 'xlauncher firefox' ?
it doesn't work for me

because it complains firefox , but it is installed under /mnt/card/debroot/ not my normal root /

how do i solve that problem?
apink
Hi all,

After following Omro's directions I get to the place where I enter "xlauncher debian" (or just plain xlauncher for that matter) and things seem to go just fine. I get a line saying "starting X for Debian - please wait a moment. . ."

Then nothing but #. There are no fireworks, no new screen or window, just that pound sign in the terminal waiting for the next command.

When I installed there were two glitches.

1. Where omro said there were some missing dependencies that he ignored, I got that same set of messages.

2. When installing debian I got two error messages:
/etc/rc5.d/S50mnt: no such file/dir
/etc/rc6.d/K50mnt: no such file/dir

Also, I did all of this without installing the openoffice package. All I want is gnumeric. I prefer it over openoffice.

Also, there was a message about /etc/hosts and /etc/resolv.conf on /mnt/card/debroot that looked like an informational message. I have not edited either of these files.

One other thing: I did not have sudo installed in the beginning. I now have it installed. xlauncher still won't start.

Any suggestions?
posco
same problem as rebski, I tried to install both xqt-gtk-jumbopack_0.4.3-0.6_arm.ipk and xqt-gtk-jumbopack_0.4.3-0.7_arm.ipk. both gave me “The extract of some files are failed. The application may not execute normally. When you cannot operate the application please remove it”. Anyone can help? BTW, Meanie said xqt-gtk-jumbopack_0.4.3-0.7_arm.ipk can be installed into SD card, but It can't, anyone knows why? please help. Thanks in advance.

PS. I am using C1K Cacko Rom
Cresho
yeah! same here. Probably best to convert your sd to ext2 which i havent tried and don't intend to since my devices see fat and i need fat to transfer files around on sd between my devices.

Hope something new comes around.
posco
QUOTE(posco @ Sep 16 2005, 06:23 PM)
same problem as rebski, I tried to install both xqt-gtk-jumbopack_0.4.3-0.6_arm.ipk and xqt-gtk-jumbopack_0.4.3-0.7_arm.ipk. both gave me “The extract of some files are failed. The application may not execute normally. When you cannot operate the application please remove it”. Anyone can help? BTW, Meanie said xqt-gtk-jumbopack_0.4.3-0.7_arm.ipk can be installed into SD card, but It can't, anyone knows why? please help. Thanks in advance.

PS. I am using C1K Cacko Rom
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answer to my question, i tried to uninstall most of applications from internal flash untill 37MB or more free space left, then i can install the xqt-gtk-jumbopack_0.4.3-0.7_arm.ipk
freebird
HI ALL
OMRO

Could you please tel us how you have resolved the problem of keyboard on debian terminal

cause when i type "/" it gives me the letter "d"
and you knew without the "/" key i can type no instruction on the debian terminal
it is really a problem

any help for a newby

cheers

freebird
Cresho
debian: not found


still cant run it...blasted!!! i assume i have bad copies.

x works but i have no idea why debian doesnt. changed my sd to ext2 btw.
chiark
Thanks, this worked a treat on my 760.

I tried installing the xqt package to main memory using "add/remove" and it complained that ipkg returned an error...

However, X did work, but xlauncher was not installed properly which suggests something was wrong.

I edited the install script to install to native EXT2 (ie not use loopback), then installed to /mnt/card/debroot. All worked well.

I did have two warnings to do with S50mnt, but that's only needed if you're using loopback (I think - it looked that way from checking the logs)

xlauncher still didn't work, because the xqt package hadn't installed correctly, so I went to konsole, su'd, and ran ipkg install on the xqt package. That completed successfully...

...and debian works!

Firefox takes a long time to start, but start it does smile.gif . Now going to be installing office biggrin.gif .
mrtwister
i had problem both with thunderbird and firefox. also i downloaded thunderbird from pdaxrom. both (meanie and pdax) packages require libplds4.so. by web research it should be in firefox, but....
so, i have xqt-jumbo which rin at my pda and nothing more.
of course, i can install debian (i have used debian before) but i want thunderbird/firefox smile.gif
please guys help! someone, can please email me that libplds4.so?
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