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abm_y4k
Hi All,

I am new to this forum! I just brought a C3100 and was hoping to get OpenZaurus running on it, but it kill my HDD and my ROM.

Anyone here have a original back copy of the C3100 HDD?

Please help me out.


Thanks in advance,

Abum
lpotter
http://www.trisoft.de/en_c3000howto.htm
Traps
QUOTE(abm_y4k @ Aug 11 2005, 06:41 PM)
Hi All,

I am new to this forum! I just brought a C3100 and was hoping to get OpenZaurus running on it, but it kill my HDD and my ROM.

Anyone here have a original back copy of the C3100 HDD?

Please help me out.


Thanks in advance,

Abum
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Hi,
Well that makes two of us!
I was trying to install OpenBSD and... Oops there it was a £500 brick!
I bought my Z from Brett at Conics.net. I have just bought a 5GB microdrive with the HDD image on it. When it arrives I'll try and fix my brick and let you know how I get on.
Cresho
dont use the 3000 instructions ..........eeeeeerrrrrr rom image
TRIsoft
Hi all,

sorry, posted the answer first in the second thread smile.gif

OK, here we go again:

Abum,

the SL-C3100 HDD contains nothing important. All the stuff
there (demo pictures, dictionary files, map files, books'n'stuff)
are also on the 3 CDs that came with the device.

But even with a fresh formatted HDD, a SL-C3100 will boot
without problems. So, if your Zaurus won't boot anymore, it
will be a different problem.

Can you access the Flashmenu ?
If Yes -> Try restore to factory defaults
if No -> Can you access the Diag ?
Yes -> Make a NAND restore
No -> Post more informations.

///TRIsoft

Marc Stephan
abm_y4k
Thanks for the advise and help!
abm_y4k
Ok here is my whole story...

Day one
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Just received my C3100 and was caught by OpenZaurus.

Day two
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trying to figure out how to install the OZ but failed because the updater.sh detected my model was not <C3000 mad.gif

Day Three
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decoded the updater.sh and change to C3100, and bingo The OZ installation was successful. Rebooted the machine and I got "Error: hdd1 blablabla..."

Day Four
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ok I have a backup of the original C3100 NAND backup, lets do it. using the DM method, and restored the NAND, reboot and "Error: hdd1 cannot initiate".

Day Five
-----------
Found a copy of hdd1.tgz and mkhdd.sh on the web forgot where. and using the DB method to boot in single mode, and ran the mkhdd.sh and recovered my hard disk and my C3100 was bootable and running fine

Day Six
-----------
Found problems, which the system info showing the rom version is "__.__" it was 1.01 before.


So my big question is how to completed restore my C3100 to factory's default? I mean I want it as it was from Day one, the NAND and the harddisk(data and partition records).

Any idea?
dhns
QUOTE(abm_y4k @ Aug 11 2005, 11:42 PM)
Found a copy of hdd1.tgz and mkhdd.sh on the web forgot where. and using the DB method to boot in single mode, and ran the mkhdd.sh and recovered my hard disk and my C3100 was bootable and running fine
Did the hdd1.tar.gz come from http://www.xlfag.com/zaurus? IMHO the hdd1.tgz is for the C3000 and not for the C3100. They have quite a different disk layout. And according to a recent posting, the C3100 should even work without HDD. So, your NAND backup must be the bad one.

AFAIK, the C3000 and C3100 are DIFFERENT in everything that has to do with Flash ROM, Alternate ROM, HDD layout etc. The C3100 is more similar to a C1000 than the C3000.

-- hns
TRIsoft
Hi everybody,

i have to correct my yesterdays posting. The sentence "should
boot even with a fresh formatted HDD" points to the FAT partition
with the "Documents" and dictionary directories.

But there are three partitions on the SL-C3100 HDD. So if the HDD
is totally blank without any partitions, the SL-C3100 won't boot up.
And this is how a SL-C3100 HDD partition table should look like:

/dev/hda1 Start 1 End 20 Blocks 10048+ id 83 System Linux
/dev/hda2 Start 21 End 40 Blocks 10080 id 83 System Linux
/dev/hda3 Start 41 End 7936 Blocks 3979584 id c System Win95 FAT32 (LBA)

/hda1 and /hda2 are 9.5 MB partitions. Each one contains a ".sys" and
a "lost+found" directory. The contents of the .sys-directories are
amazing biggrin.gif :

Files in /hdd1/.sys :
hdimage2.tgz (2713 Bytes, contains japanese web-bookmarks - hurray !)
hdlist1.dat (85 Bytes, no clue what it's good for)

Files in /hdd2/.sys :
contlist.dat (100156 Bytes)
hdlist2.dat (1427 Bytes)
hdlist3.dat (1519 Bytes)

We just put these files zipped in our download-section:
SL-C3100 SystemPartition contents (90 KB)

///TRIsoft

Marc Stephan
abm_y4k
alrite!

Thanks for pointing out.

I'll give it a try tonite.
Traps
QUOTE(TRIsoft @ Aug 12 2005, 10:26 AM)
Hi everybody,

i have to correct my yesterdays posting. The sentence "should
boot even with a fresh formatted HDD" points to the FAT partition
with the "Documents" and dictionary directories.

But there are three partitions on the SL-C3100 HDD. So if the HDD
is totally blank without any partitions, the SL-C3100 won't boot up.
And this is how a SL-C3100 HDD partition table should look like:

/dev/hda1  Start 1  End 20  Blocks 10048+  id 83 System Linux
/dev/hda2  Start 21 End 40  Blocks 10080  id 83 System Linux
/dev/hda3  Start 41 End 7936 Blocks 3979584 id c System Win95 FAT32 (LBA)

/hda1 and /hda2 are 9.5 MB partitions. Each one contains a ".sys" and
a "lost+found" directory. The contents of the .sys-directories are
amazing  biggrin.gif :

Files in /hdd1/.sys :
hdimage2.tgz  (2713 Bytes, contains japanese web-bookmarks - hurray !)
hdlist1.dat (85 Bytes, no clue what it's good for)

Files in /hdd2/.sys :
contlist.dat (100156 Bytes)
hdlist2.dat (1427 Bytes)
hdlist3.dat (1519 Bytes)

We just put these files zipped in our download-section:
SL-C3100 SystemPartition contents (90 KB)

///TRIsoft

Marc Stephan
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Marc,
Many thanks for this advice! The Phoenix rises!
Repartitoned the MD with fdisk then # mke2fs -j /dev/hda1,# mke2fs -j /dev/hda2,# mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/hda3. Mount the disks #mount /dev/hda1 /hdd1 etc and copy the files from your download to the relevant disks. Reboot, install and run mcconvert,Reboot and there you go!
Not sure if everyone will need to do the mcconvert. But I had done a reset and a NAND restore.

Thanks again!
Paul
TRIsoft
QUOTE(Traps @ Aug 13 2005, 04:48 PM)
...The Phoenix rises!...
Reboot and there you go!
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Paul,

good to hear that your Zaurus is alive again.
And much better to see what things to obey if you
change / replace the harddisk. So thank you for
the testing and the feedback biggrin.gif

///TRIsoft

Marc Stephan
foley
QUOTE(Traps @ Aug 13 2005, 07:48 AM)
QUOTE(TRIsoft @ Aug 12 2005, 10:26 AM)
Hi everybody,

i have to correct my yesterdays posting. The sentence "should
boot even with a fresh formatted HDD" points to the FAT partition
with the "Documents" and dictionary directories.

But there are three partitions on the SL-C3100 HDD. So if the HDD
is totally blank without any partitions, the SL-C3100 won't boot up.
And this is how a SL-C3100 HDD partition table should look like:

/dev/hda1  Start 1  End 20  Blocks 10048+  id 83 System Linux
/dev/hda2  Start 21 End 40  Blocks 10080  id 83 System Linux
/dev/hda3  Start 41 End 7936 Blocks 3979584 id c System Win95 FAT32 (LBA)

/hda1 and /hda2 are 9.5 MB partitions. Each one contains a ".sys" and
a "lost+found" directory. The contents of the .sys-directories are
amazing  biggrin.gif :

Files in /hdd1/.sys :
hdimage2.tgz  (2713 Bytes, contains japanese web-bookmarks - hurray !)
hdlist1.dat (85 Bytes, no clue what it's good for)

Files in /hdd2/.sys :
contlist.dat (100156 Bytes)
hdlist2.dat (1427 Bytes)
hdlist3.dat (1519 Bytes)

We just put these files zipped in our download-section:
SL-C3100 SystemPartition contents (90 KB)

///TRIsoft

Marc Stephan
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Marc,
Many thanks for this advice! The Phoenix rises!
Repartitoned the MD with fdisk then # mke2fs -j /dev/hda1,# mke2fs -j /dev/hda2,# mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/hda3. Mount the disks #mount /dev/hda1 /hdd1 etc and copy the files from your download to the relevant disks. Reboot, install and run mcconvert,Reboot and there you go!
Not sure if everyone will need to do the mcconvert. But I had done a reset and a NAND restore.

Thanks again!
Paul
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Hi Paul,
After formatting those drives I'm not able to copy HD content files to hda1 and 2. First I tried su then create .sys folder in /hdd1 by using the terminal, but system returned "Cannot create directory '.sys': Read-only files system. After that I used Tree!Explorer but the problem still remain. Could you please help me out? Thanks!
GadgetGuy
QUOTE(foley @ Nov 10 2005, 12:39 PM)
QUOTE(Traps @ Aug 13 2005, 07:48 AM)
QUOTE(TRIsoft @ Aug 12 2005, 10:26 AM)
Hi everybody,

i have to correct my yesterdays posting. The sentence "should
boot even with a fresh formatted HDD" points to the FAT partition
with the "Documents" and dictionary directories.

But there are three partitions on the SL-C3100 HDD. So if the HDD
is totally blank without any partitions, the SL-C3100 won't boot up.
And this is how a SL-C3100 HDD partition table should look like:

/dev/hda1  Start 1  End 20  Blocks 10048+  id 83 System Linux
/dev/hda2  Start 21 End 40  Blocks 10080  id 83 System Linux
/dev/hda3  Start 41 End 7936 Blocks 3979584 id c System Win95 FAT32 (LBA)

/hda1 and /hda2 are 9.5 MB partitions. Each one contains a ".sys" and
a "lost+found" directory. The contents of the .sys-directories are
amazing  biggrin.gif :

Files in /hdd1/.sys :
hdimage2.tgz  (2713 Bytes, contains japanese web-bookmarks - hurray !)
hdlist1.dat (85 Bytes, no clue what it's good for)

Files in /hdd2/.sys :
contlist.dat (100156 Bytes)
hdlist2.dat (1427 Bytes)
hdlist3.dat (1519 Bytes)

We just put these files zipped in our download-section:
SL-C3100 SystemPartition contents (90 KB)

///TRIsoft

Marc Stephan
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Marc,
Many thanks for this advice! The Phoenix rises!
Repartitoned the MD with fdisk then # mke2fs -j /dev/hda1,# mke2fs -j /dev/hda2,# mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/hda3. Mount the disks #mount /dev/hda1 /hdd1 etc and copy the files from your download to the relevant disks. Reboot, install and run mcconvert,Reboot and there you go!
Not sure if everyone will need to do the mcconvert. But I had done a reset and a NAND restore.

Thanks again!
Paul
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Hi Paul,
After formatting those drives I'm not able to copy HD content files to hda1 and 2. First I tried su then create .sys folder in /hdd1 by using the terminal, but system returned "Cannot create directory '.sys': Read-only files system. After that I used Tree!Explorer but the problem still remain. Could you please help me out? Thanks!
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You have to make the disk rw by doing

CODE
mount  -o  remount,rw /dev/hdd1
foley
You have to make the disk rw by doing

CODE
mount  -o  remount,rw /dev/hdd1

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Hi GadgetGuy,

Thanks for your help. I tried to remount but it still not working.
By typing ls i saw the folders within /dev/hdd1 are:

"Applications" "Documents" "Settings" instead of lost+found

Is this normal?
foley
[quote=foley,Nov 10 2005, 10:16 AM]
You have to make the disk rw by doing

CODE
mount  -o  remount,rw /dev/hdd1

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[/quote]

Hi GadgetGuy,

Thanks for your help. I tried to remount but it still not working.
By typing ls i saw the folders within /dev/hdd1 are:

"Applications" "Documents" "Settings" instead of lost+found

Is this normal?
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[/quote]

Finally i'm able to cp files to .sys folder in hdd1. However, "HDD is not initialized" message still exist while booting up........
foley
I thought it works but in fact it doesn't. I tried to cp files in DB mode but the changes didn't take effect after reboot. ......

I'm still unable to copy necessary content files to hdd1 due to read-only file system problem. Even remount do not work. Did I miss something? Please help!
foley
It's done finally. My C3100 boot up fine for now. However, I've encountered another problem regarding the HD.......

When I try to access hdd2 by using Tree!Explorer. It takes a very long time to read the disk. I ended up put my ear to the keypad and hear some strange noise from the HD, something like "tick tick tick". Sounds like the HD is having a hard time to seek for data. I'm afraid the microdrive is about to die. Any suggestion please?
ArchiMark
Maybe someone can please advise...trying to get my 3100 working again....

Was running OZ/GPE and then decided to go back to Sharp ROM or Cacko...had problem downloading Cacko, so did D+M Restore with TriSoft's 3100 file. Restore appeared to go OK. But when I rebooted, got 'HDD2 Error!!' after some fiddling, then got 'HDD1 Error!!'

So following instructions on this thread I did the following:

Downloaded the TriSoft files and put them on SD card.

Then followed TriSoft's instructions and re-did my HD partitions and then formatted the partitions and then made the '.sys' directories in /hdd1 and /hdd2 and then copied over the 'hdd1sys' files into /hdd1/.sys and 'hdd2sys' files into /hdd2/.sys.

Then rebooted and voila!

Now, instead of the 'hdd1 error' or 'hdd2 error' messages I got at bootup I get the message:

Error!! HDD is not initialized!

According to TriSoft's instructions you get this message if the directories and files are missing. However, I just setup those directories and copied files into them........ blink.gif

Now what???

Thanks,

Mark

QUOTE(foley @ Nov 10 2005, 12:39 PM)
I thought it works but in fact it doesn't. I tried to cp files in DB mode but the changes didn't take effect after reboot. ......

I'm still unable to copy necessary content files to hdd1 due to read-only file system problem. Even remount do not work. Did I miss something? Please help!
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Cresho
that is exactly what i am afraid to do. flash into another rom and kill my machine. Try pdaxrom. how about the original sharprom that comes in the cd. why not use that?
Jon_J
This may not help, but I read somewhere, (for the C3100) that hdd1 is set as ro as default, and hdd2 is rw
I may be wrong, but I'm sure one of these two partitions is ro and the other is rw.
I read this here in the forum, I'll go look for it now.
Jon
Jon_J
Maybe I didn't read this in this forum after all.
Checking system info in Cacko shows this in the "mounts" tab: (see attached pic)
/dev/hda1/ ext3 ro, noatime
/dev/hda2/ ext3 rw, noatime
/dev/hda3/ vfat rw, noatime
ArchiMark
Will check that out, Jon_J.....

Thanks!!!

Mark


QUOTE(Jon_J @ Apr 3 2006, 08:50 PM)
Maybe I didn't read this in this forum after all.
Checking system info in Cacko shows this in the "mounts" tab: (see attached pic)
/dev/hda1/ ext3 ro, noatime
/dev/hda2/ ext3 rw, noatime
/dev/hda3/ vfat  rw, noatime
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ArchiMark
Cresho, I had pdaxrom on my Z before I tried OZ/GPE.....as for the original Sharp ROM, it's not on the CD...I did use TriSoft's restore file that gives you back the Sharp ROM...

Thanks,

Mark

QUOTE(Cresho @ Apr 3 2006, 08:27 PM)
that is exactly what i am afraid to do.  flash into another rom and kill my machine.  Try pdaxrom.  how about the original sharprom that comes in the cd.  why not use that?
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dlj0
QUOTE(TRIsoft @ Aug 12 2005, 06:26 AM)
Hi everybody,

i have to correct my yesterdays posting. The sentence "should
boot even with a fresh formatted HDD" points to the FAT partition
with the "Documents" and dictionary directories.

But there are three partitions on the SL-C3100 HDD. So if the HDD
is totally blank without any partitions, the SL-C3100 won't boot up.
And this is how a SL-C3100 HDD partition table should look like:

/dev/hda1  Start 1  End 20  Blocks 10048+  id 83 System Linux
/dev/hda2  Start 21 End 40  Blocks 10080  id 83 System Linux
/dev/hda3  Start 41 End 7936 Blocks 3979584 id c System Win95 FAT32 (LBA)

/hda1 and /hda2 are 9.5 MB partitions. Each one contains a ".sys" and
a "lost+found" directory. The contents of the .sys-directories are
amazing  biggrin.gif :

Files in /hdd1/.sys :
hdimage2.tgz  (2713 Bytes, contains japanese web-bookmarks - hurray !)
hdlist1.dat (85 Bytes, no clue what it's good for)

Files in /hdd2/.sys :
contlist.dat (100156 Bytes)
hdlist2.dat (1427 Bytes)
hdlist3.dat (1519 Bytes)

We just put these files zipped in our download-section:
SL-C3100 SystemPartition contents (90 KB)

///TRIsoft

Marc Stephan
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My experience is that all that is not necessary. I, naively, re-partitioned my HD with three ext3 partitions of completely different sizes than these (/dev/hda1 and 2 are 1g, and 3 is 2G). It works fine. I think I am totally lucky to have chosen to create three partitions, since I'm guessing it would not have worked with a different number (or at least not with fewer partitions).

BTW, I read once, but forgot, where the system finds out about the drive. I tried editing /etc/fstab, but IIRC that is not used -- besides, the stock version has incorrect information (conflicting with reality) on it which is ignored. Can't whatever file that is be edited to allow you to change the partitioning of the drive?
Meanie
Have a look at this http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/custom.html#hdd3
ArchiMark
Thanks for the reference and for your great site, Meanie!!!

Meanwhile, I think I figured out why I got that last error message..... rolleyes.gif

While I thought I'd copied those TriSoft files for HDD1 and HDD2 to the right places, I'd actually copied over the entire directory instead of just the files over to the right places....

So I moved the files, then rebooted and voila!....my little 3100 booted up properly to the set date and time screen!!!.....

tongue.gif

Life is good again.....

THANKS to everyone for all the help and support...it always helps when you think you've really done it this time.....

Mark

QUOTE(Meanie @ Apr 4 2006, 06:26 PM)
Cresho
in my case, i forgot to remount them to the perspective filesystems.


HOT DOG! smile.gif
obscurite
Thanks trisoft,

I had been running OpenBSD and had blown away my partitions and needed an easy restore method.

By the way, for those not familiar with fdisk, just boot into linux (b+d on reboot) and do fdisk /dev/hda. Delete your existing partitions with 'd'. Create new partitions with 'n', all primary. Set types with 't' according to the readme in the trisoft file. Exit with 'w' when done, but print with 'p' to check before. When you're done with your partition table, run the mkfs/mke2fs commands in the readme. Mount the /dev/hda1 /dev/hda2 partitions with 'mount /dev/hd# /hdd#' where # is 1 or 2. Then for each drive 'mkdir /hdd#/.sys' and 'cp -r /mnt/cf/hdd#sys /hdd#/.sys' to restore the drive contents (assuming your CF card is mounted on /mnt/cf. Use /mnt/card if you're doing SD). Reboot into your ROM installer and you should be OK.

After 2 days of goose-chasing a bad SD card I was finally ready to install a ROM and then to my horror realized my partitions were gone, and much to my relief, trisoft came to the rescue. biggrin.gif
mfbrown
Thanks very much for the guide for newbies like me - I needed the extra help. Just in case anyone else is struggling, however, may I with all humility point out the typo (or at least it seems to be a typo) where you refer to "mount /dev/hd#", and I suspect it should be "mount /dev/hda#". At least, it worked for me that way.
Thanks again,
Mark


QUOTE(obscurite @ May 12 2006, 09:00 AM)
Thanks trisoft,

I had been running OpenBSD and had blown away my partitions and needed an easy restore method.

By the way, for those not familiar with fdisk, just boot into linux (b+d on reboot) and do fdisk /dev/hda. Delete your existing partitions with 'd'. Create new partitions with 'n', all primary. Set types with 't' according to the readme in the trisoft file. Exit with 'w' when done, but print with 'p' to check before. When you're done with your partition table, run the mkfs/mke2fs commands in the readme. Mount the /dev/hda1 /dev/hda2 partitions with 'mount /dev/hd# /hdd#' where # is 1 or 2. Then for each drive  'mkdir /hdd#/.sys' and 'cp -r /mnt/cf/hdd#sys /hdd#/.sys' to restore the drive contents (assuming your CF card is mounted on /mnt/cf. Use /mnt/card if you're doing SD). Reboot into your ROM installer and you should be OK.

After 2 days of goose-chasing a bad SD card I  was finally ready to install a ROM and then to my horror realized my partitions were gone, and much to my relief, trisoft came to the rescue. biggrin.gif
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waalkman
Thanks Trisoft! You guys rock! smile.gif

One thing that I'd like to add is that along with the missing partitions on the hard drive that needed to be repaired (my fault), the CF card had a messed up partition table and would not only not mount itself, but kept my SD card from mounting as well (this is where I had all of the files needed to fix my HD stored). Removing the card fixed the problem.

Today I found the partition problem (BTW, the card would format just fine in linux and Windows). I deleted the partitions and recreated the one partition and formatted it. Seems to work just fine.
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