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sibble-comp-oesf
Howdy folks, I am trying to get Qpose working on my OZ3.5.3/Opie SL-5500.

I've got it installed and linked against the Sharp compatibility libs, as per here

http://zaurus.kruss.com/software_sharp.php...236bef4ff7a8#10

I've updated the mime.types file (actually several under OZ3.5.3), extracted an appropriate rom from my Palm IIIxe and put in into the appropriate dirs. It shows up on the documents tab with an ? icon. How do I get Qpose to recognize this file? I can run Qpose and it says to run the rom image file from the documents tab, this does nothing.

Suggestions?
Snappy
Hi there,

Once Qpose is installed (both bin and data ipk), Palm rom files should be associated with it and appear as a rom chip icon on the desktop. When properly installed, clicking on a rom file from the desktop should cause the rom file to be opened / executed by qpose.

My guess is that the association is not properly done. Are you installing your qpose to sd?
lardman
You could try running QPose from the command line and passing the file as an argument,


Si
sibble-comp-oesf
QUOTE(lardman @ Aug 23 2005, 08:48 AM)
You could try running QPose from the command line and passing the file as an argument,

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Tried that, doesn't do anything, qpose comes up but doesn't load the rom

QUOTE(snappy @ Aug 23 2005, 08:48 AM)
Hi there,

Once Qpose is installed (both bin and data ipk), Palm rom files should be associated with it and appear as a rom chip icon on the desktop. When properly installed, clicking on a rom file from the desktop should cause the rom file to be opened / executed by qpose.

My guess is that the association is not properly done. Are you installing your qpose to sd?


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Well I had missed installing the data ipk. Installed now, but rom still shows up with a ? icon on the docs tab. Qpose is installed to sd, as I am using the root pivot script.


This brings up another question. Is there anyway to do something like alt-tab to cycle through all the running applications in memory.
lardman
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Tried that, doesn't do anything, qpose comes up but doesn't load the rom


I'd look at the patch (http://www.climov.com/zaurus/qpose/qpose-3.5-0.1.patch.gz) and see what it expects to be passed to make it open the file.

Might be some random QCOP call I expect.

No idea about the MIME stuff I'm afraid - I presume you've added the entries from the postinst script though.


Si
Snappy
QUOTE(sibble-comp-oesf @ Aug 23 2005, 05:29 PM)
This brings up another question.  Is there anyway to do something like alt-tab to cycle through all the running applications in memory.
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gee ... I'm thinking of that too! wink.gif ideas?
sibble-comp-oesf
QUOTE(Snappy @ Aug 23 2005, 08:15 PM)
QUOTE(sibble-comp-oesf @ Aug 23 2005, 05:29 PM)
This brings up another question.  Is there anyway to do something like alt-tab to cycle through all the running applications in memory.
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gee ... I'm thinking of that too! wink.gif ideas?
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Actually, that was one of the first things I thought about. Really hated not having a feature like that on my Palm Pilots (III series). I use that kind of feature on my desktops pretty much daily whether they are nix or windows. A way to cycle through VT's on the Z would also be handy.

I've noticed that switching to a VT results in no way to switch back, any ideas on that?
lardman
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I've noticed that switching to a VT results in no way to switch back, any ideas on that?


There is a way to switch back, either a keypress shortcut (which may or may not be implemented for your device) or a command you can issue in the term - chvt.

Try 'chvt 2'


Si
Snappy
QUOTE(lardman @ Aug 24 2005, 09:43 AM)
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I've noticed that switching to a VT results in no way to switch back, any ideas on that?


There is a way to switch back, either a keypress shortcut (which may or may not be implemented for your device) or a command you can issue in the term - chvt.

Try 'chvt 2'


Si
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hmmm .... when I accidentally click on one of the VT options from the "start" menu, I go into a black "terminal"-like screen with no prompts whatsoever. I now have the VT options disabled. tongue.gif
Snappy
QUOTE(sibble-comp-oesf @ Aug 24 2005, 05:23 AM)
Actually, that was one of the first things I thought about. Really hated not having a feature like that on my Palm Pilots (III series). I use that kind of feature on my desktops pretty much daily whether they are nix or windows. A way to cycle through VT's on the Z would also be handy.

I've noticed that switching to a VT results in no way to switch back, any ideas on that?
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Actually, Palm devices are single tasking. When you select a new app, a close command is issued to the existing app and that app flushes all its state/settings to memory and exits. Then control is returned to the OS/launcher which in turn calls the new app selected to run.

Of cos, even then, one can always implement an ALT-TAB of sorts to cycle through the apps, but the issue becomes defining the list of apps to cycle through. Since only one app is running at any one time, maybe one way is to cycle among the last 5 apps that were opened? smile.gif

On PPCs, HPCs and Zaurii, apps can be minimized, so yes, I reiterate a need for a way to cycle through apps that are running. smile.gif
sibble-comp-oesf
QUOTE(lardman @ Aug 23 2005, 10:45 AM)
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Tried that, doesn't do anything, qpose comes up but doesn't load the rom


I'd look at the patch (http://www.climov.com/zaurus/qpose/qpose-3.5-0.1.patch.gz) and see what it expects to be passed to make it open the file.

Might be some random QCOP call I expect.

No idea about the MIME stuff I'm afraid - I presume you've added the entries from the postinst script though.


Si
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Well, I uninstalled, and reinstalled from scratch, looked at the mime settings and renamed my palmiiixe.rom to palmiiixe.ROM, restarted opie, now I have the palm emulator icon under applications and the proper icon for the rom showing up under documents. However, clicking on the rom on the docs tab results in 2 things happening:
1) the numer of rom icons incresases by 1 each time I do this
2) I get a segfault "Palm Emulator was terminated due to a signal code SIGSEGV"

If I run qpose from the cli (via ssh), it starts up after being run twice, it throws up the following errors

first run

# qpose
/opt/QtPalmtop/bin/qpose
ln: /tmp/qtembedded-root/QtEmbedded-0: No such file or directory
QSocket::writeBlock: Socket is not open
QSocket::writeBlock: Socket is not open
QSocket::writeBlock: Socket is not open
QSocket::writeBlock: Socket is not open
No Qt/Embedded server appears to be running.
If you want to run this program as a server,
add the "-qws" command-line option.


second run

# qpose
/opt/QtPalmtop/bin/qpose
EmWindow::WindowReset()
QDir::readDirEntries: Cannot read the directory: ../apps

I then go to the docs tab and click on the rom and same segfault error as before.

I've also noticed that after trying to run qpose a couple of times results in strange behaviour for my Z, it won't reboot and in one case, the message light came on, I did a soft reset and the stuff on screen stayed on screen, I had to eventually remove the battery to get out of that lockup.

I also just noticed that after running it twice via the icons and having it segfault, the keyboard wouldn't work anymore in a console window :-( Rebooting and running it via cli over ssh, did not have this effect.
lardman
I'd be tempted to add it to OE so you can use it without the compat libs,


Si
sibble-comp-oesf
QUOTE(lardman @ Aug 25 2005, 08:52 AM)
I'd be tempted to add it to OE so you can use it without the compat libs,


Si
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Not sure I follow you. Are you suggesting I rewrite the code?
lardman
No, not re-write the code (though you might have to make a couple of changes) - there's just a patch to the pose source and it shouldn't be too much effort to add a .bb file for it so that it can be build using OE to run (with softfloat, without the Sharp compat libs) on OZ.

If it runs with the compat libs then I don't imagine you'll have to make many changes to the patch to link it against libopie, etc.


Si
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