I just want to post this information about the bluetooth. I know many are looking for cf bluetooth cards that work and i would like everybody to post the ones that do work with bluez.

Here is a list of places you can by the one i use-
ambicom bt2000-cf bluetooth-made in taiwan
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Make sure it-
1. made in taiwan and the
2. antena is black and not blue.
3. there is also a cute sticker of a tooth surfing away from the laptop.
4. return policy if they send you the wrong one too.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detai...e&s=electronics
http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod...earch=bt2000+cf
http://shopper-search.cnet.com/search?qt=b...1-cnet&tag=5017
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I am also looking for something that is different and a second bluetooth card since i have lost mines plenty of times and still is with me through a miracle. If anybody has problems setting up bluez on there zaurus, email me or post here and I will definetly make my files available for download with easy instructions in setting up.

if you have a irda phone with digital access and want to use this instead, use this thread. this thread also has the information in setting up your cellphone for digital access. irda and bluetooth dialup setup is the same basically.
http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=14738

This thread is a GREAT idea!

Since the Belkin bluetooth card can be found for really cheap, I am sure, that many people (including myself) would be interested in how to make it work.

Any comments / tips / tricks to that: please also post it here!

from my expirience, belking (tried 2 versions) never worked for me until i purchased the ambicom. reason is that the newer chipset was not supported by bluez but maybee someone found a way right?

USB Dongles??? I'd much rather use a dongle if it works

I've been using a Billionton USB dongle (UBTCR500-B) with my 3100 and the latest Cacko beta and it is working ok. Only connected to phone (Moto e680) with it so far, havn't really tried keyboard or gps yet.

how is a dongle configured compared to the cf card? do you need to configure any files?

For the Billionton I went into the Network applet and added a 'Bluetooth - PPP' connection, entered user name, pword, and #. then in 'Modem' tab did a search for BT DUN and had my phone in discovery mode - found it no problem, left the other options at default.

Then I had to edit /etc/bluetooth/givepin and /etc/bluetooth/pin with my phone's pin code. that's it.

but with my phone - Moto e680, I actually have to go to a modem applet and tell it to 'Find Me' in order to connect. This is more a problem of the phone than the z.

does a Billionton CF BT card work?

i purchased a usb various plug kits for usb. I tested the usb adaptors and they all work.

Just incase people are wondering about the targus usb, it does not work. I use the targus usb to plug my laptop bluetooth to my cellphone when i am using my laptop pf course.

- I have the cute tooth surfer Ambicom that Cresho has. Took a long time to find that guy, but I did. When it works, it works just steller.
- When it doesn't work, getting it to work is a real dog and pony show, until it works. Then it's just stellar. Just wish it worked a little more consistently.
- One of these daze wifey will get her new box loaded up with all her goodies, then I'll have dedicated Linux development system, instead of dual-booting this one. I'll be a lot more serious about figuring out why it keeps loosing pairing when I can play easier.
- 'Til then I'm getting pretty good at the dog and pony show (whicker)...

As you may have read in other threads, I recently got a Socket bluetooth card (rev H). I got a good deal online on an open-box card, but I couldn't check the revision. It turns out that Socket started using a new kind of card starting with rev G. Revs G and H are apparently more complicated to use in the Zaurus.

It works fine with the bluez_zaurus package and the serial package mentioned on the bluetooth howto page. However, I am having big problems with suspending and resuming. I think it will always work if you just physically remove and re-insert the card after a suspend, but that's annoying. I have had no luck whatsoever with the susp-resume package that is supposed to automatically re-enable your card after a suspend. I've tried editing it many ways, but it just doesn't seem to work.

Through a lot of trial and error, I have determined that running the following commands in the terminal will allow the card to work after a suspend.



If I don't run "/etc/rc.d/init.d/bluetooth stop" then I can't eject the card, because it is "busy."

If I just run "cardctl eject" my internal microdrive gets ejected. You have to specify 0 for the compact flash card.

And interestingly "/etc/rc.d/init.d/bluetooth start" will not work for the last command (it says "BCSP initialization timed out"). It has to be "restart."

Anyway, I'm a bit of a Linux newbie. Can someone tell me in simple terms how to make a script that will automate this? Ideally, I'd like to just bind it to a keyhelper key combination.

(By the way, I had a problem where I thought bluetooth had stopped working for no apparent reason. I reinstalled everything and tried a bunch of things before finally trying to restart bluetooth on my phone. The phone then froze. After restarting the phone, everything worked fine. Maybe there is something flaky about the bluetooth on the RAZR. In any case, always check the phone too if you have a mysterious failure.)

An update on what bluetooth cards to get:

as you can see in the cacko thread, the upcoming cacko ROM will support a range of bluetooth cards, including the Belkin one.

As the Belkin is quite affordable on ebay and elsewhere, this could be an interesting way for many to try bluetooth for keyboards, mouse, printing, laptop connection or (via cellphone) internet.

An update on my Socket Bluetooth card. I now have it working perfectly. It took some research, but I figured out how to write a script to re-enable the card after suspending the Zaurus. Once I figured out what worked, I was able to get it working with susp-resume. My problem with susp-resume earlier was that I hadn't been using the right syntax. I just pasted the code into the appropriate section of the "bluetooth" file in /etc/apm.d/ and it worked. I'm sure that this isn't the best way to accomplish this (I couldn't figure out how to do commands as root in a script, so I used sudo), but it works. Anyone have a better way to write this?

Here is the bluetooth file from susp-resume. Only the "resume" section is changed.



Using this, the card works after a suspend (although you need to wait for a few seconds for the script to finish processing).

Cresho: if you cold provide detailed info on how to setup Ambicom BT2000-CF that would be great. I have the BT card as you mentioned - made in Taiwan but for the half year I had it I could not find a decent explanation on how to set it up on my SL-5600 (poodle) with OZ 3.5.3 installed. It could be perhaps to some missing packages such as bt950_cs as mentioned by some people who have it working. Most of the information out there unfortunately is by early adopters for their SL-5500 which is not relevant to my case.

WIll appreciate any input.

Thanks

I am not sure how to set something like that up in open zaurus. Mines was setup on a sharprom 3.13 on a sl5500 and the same card on the c1000 with different bluez drivers.

Getting card working is usually a matter or looking into /etc/pcmcia/ configs for correct binding and installing correct kernel module from feed.

[quote=Cresho,Sep 1 2005, 07:33 AM]
I just want to post this information about the bluetooth. I know many are looking for cf bluetooth cards that work and i would like everybody to post the ones that do work with bluez.

Here is a list of places you can by the one i use-
ambicom bt2000-cf bluetooth-made in taiwan
-------------------------------------------------------
Make sure it-
1. made in taiwan and the
2. antena is black and not blue.

I haven't seen any of the black ones around here.

I guess it isn't even worth opening the package if it has a blue antenna, is it?

No it isn't worth opening. Don't buy it. I bought one (remembering that I had read somewhere on here that the ambicom was supported but completely forgetting that it was the version with the BLACK cap... *sigh) and found out after I got home that it was hopeless.

I didn't return it for a couple of reasons... 1. I'd really thrashed the packaging... 2. it did work for my laptop with the pcmcia adapter, so I figured I could still use it. 3. i hoped one day it might work.

I bought the blue cap version last year... it still doesn't work. .... LOL

I've been using the Ambicom BT2000c with my Z for a while with no problems. I installed:
bluez_zaurus_2.12_2.4.20_alpha4_arm.ipk

Which I got from somewhere on these forums. I installed the bluez-csr-update ipk as well. I then had to edit /etc/bluetooth/uart since the card's name seems to have gained some underscore characters since the uart file was written. My entry looks like:

Ya don't say... hmmmmmm.... now to find that blue-capped ambicom and give'er a spin!

hi! new at this forum, and in fact also a begginer with zaurus sl-3100... just would like to know if anyone has heard about any CF Bluetooth v1.2 card.

thanks

Nacho

Rob,

I have a blue top ambicom BT2000-CF and have installed cacko 1.23 Full. Do you know if this setting is compatible with the BT2000-CF? How can I tell if the card I have is the same as the one that is working for you?

When I inserted in Cacko, I get "new serial or modem card inserted", when I go to the Dial Up BT tab in the network settings, I get after searching "No devices with DUN profile found". FInally, If I go to System Inf, at the Devices Tab, when I open the CD Slot group, I get:

product info: Ambicom_BT200C, Bluetooth_PC/CF_Card",""
manfid: 0x0279, 0x950b
function: 2 (serial)
Vcc 0.0V Vpp1 0.0V Vpp2 0.0V
3.3V 16bit PC Card [suspended]

Could you point me in the right direction? I do not have technical background, I am more a business user. What can I do? Any hints?

Regards from the Tropics,
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i had that ambicom..never worked for me. COuldnt figure out how to get it working. you might want to private message rob for the information.

Hi,
I've not tried it with Cacko, but the same principle should apply.

The simplest, lowest propellor factor method I can think of getting you going is this:

1)Run the terminal/console app
2) Type (enter after each one)
su
3) Type:
cp /etc/pcmcia/bluetooth.conf /home/zaurus/Documents
then:
cp /etc/bluetooth/uart /home/zaurus/Documents

4) Hook your zaurus up to a PC/Mac, browse the internal disc, and use a text editor to edit the bluetooth.conf file. What you are looking for is a line that contains the product info string your card has. I suspect it's not there, or if it is, it is missing the underscore characters.

so you may find a pair of lines:



then copy them and paste a new copy and edit it to read:



if there isn't one like that, just paste this one in.

5) Do the same again, but this time edit the 'uart' file.

You need to edit the Ambicom line to read


6) Go back to the terminal app and type:
cp /home/zaurus/Documents/uart /etc/bluetooth/
cp /home/zaurus/Documents/bluetooth.conf /etc/pcmcia/

7) reboot

With a following wind, that should be you up and running, unless...

I may be having more luck due to the version of bluez i'm running. We install a repackaged version of:

bluez-zaurus_2.12-2.4.20-alpha4_arm.ipk (posted elsewhere on these forums)

Which definitely has stuff in it to support the BT2000-CF. Maybe that's the key? Or maybe Mr Maslovsky has included that (or better) in Cacko?

I am using C700 with cacko 1.23 lite, after change these setting, i can see the
ambicom bt2000-cf card on my zaurus , but when i use hciconfig , it's no response,
hciconfig scan , and it says "Can't get device info: No such device"

Cacko includes support for this card. Reflash and don't install ANY bluetooth package.

yes , but default cacko 1.23 will identify my BT2000-cf as serial or modem,
must modify the two file as rob_figlabs say. after modify , the card will been identified.
but still can't work, hciconfig show nothing, by the way, i don't install any package in
cacko 1.23. Do i miss something before using hciconfig?

Yeeeeap! Thx Rob!
I got happy, I made finaly run my "Ambicom BT2000C(it's not 2000E)" by using your method on "Cacko1.22(jp_supported)".
My Ambicom BT2000C is absolutely same as Otto's photo.
My Zaurus is SL-C700 and link and DialUp with Nokia7600.

What about USB bluetooth? Any problems?

mine works in cacko 1.23 and worked with some setup hell on my sl-5500 with tkcrom 1.0

see my sig for model number

JavaHack

I have a Socket Bluetooth CF Card in my C1000.

When I try to access it from my cellphone using the Paired Devices
mode the Zaurus is recognized and then I am asked for a "passcode".

Anyone have any idea what this might be or where I might find or
reset it on the C1000 with CACkO?

Thanks! doc

1234 or 4321

or try nothing.




/etc/bluetooth/givepin contains the pin number that your Zaurus will automatically give to another Bluetooth device if pairing from the Zaurus. givepin is a script which must print out a string of the format "PIN:1234" where 1234 is the pin number, so you only change that part of the script to change to pin number.

Thanks! That worked!

Now I guess I need to download and install the Oxygen Software app
to get the two to actually communicate with one another to share files,
etc?

I'd also like to be able to sync the calendar and address book.

Thanks! doc

All of the USB doungles I've tried worked just fine.

I have a Aircable Bluetooth adaptor. But when I try to use it it only seems to want to connect to a cell phone for dialing out. Does anyone know if you can use the Aircable with a wireless BT headset so you can play MP3s through it?

Also, Does the Ambicom Card allow you to:

1) Connect to a BT phone
2) Connect to a BT HEadset (MP3's and movie sounds)
3) Connect to a BT PC and Share files

Thanks. I know these are different questions, but I have the Aircable and have no idea what it can/cannot do. And if I need to replace it with a BT card, I want to make sure I know what the card would be capable of.

Thanks Again.

you probably want to do a to check what it can do

but from what I know, the bluez stack on the zaurus can only do obex push/receive with any device, pan with a computer and dun with a phone.

so 1 is yes (using dun), 2 is probably not, and 3 is yes (using obex or pan).

which now brings me to my question

what do other users here use for a obex file browser? is there a gui file browser for obex that runs on the Z? I found one that runs on J2ME (unfortunately, its the MIDP variant which makes it not very usable on the Z)
I want to be able to browse the files stored on my mobile phone from my Z.

btw, this is a very promising project http://qtopiabluezgui.sourceforge.net/index.php

- Ultimately, Cacko fixed the BT woes with the "toothy surfer" Ambicom. Just jam that guy in the slot and it works like a charm right "out of the box" with v1.23 heavy.
- I've read in a couple of places, however, about this "obex" thing talking to things via BT. Very interesting! I'm thinking I may need to give this "obex" a little more scrutiny. (jaundiced stare) I've always wanted to try to manage the numbers in the phone from Hiro, instead of re-typing everything...

hi there

i would like to use a bluetooth stereo headset with the zaurus. i mean the Z would send via bluetooth card to a bluetooth headset, in high quality stereo sound. do you know if A2DP is supported by our bluez implementation on the zaurus ? did someone ever succeed in doing this ?

I believe its supported in cacko..

Hi all,
I've managed to connet my C860 to my Motorola V3.
The problem is that if I disconnect and try to connect again then the V3 doesn't recognize the Zaurus.
The workaround is to delete the Zaurus from the known devices in the V3. After this is done, the Zaurus can connect again.
Has anybody seen this behaviour before?
Is there any solution to this issue?

Regards,

Juan

I've got some usb dongle news. I've tried 3 different dongles with varying results. I'm using bluez-zaurus 2.12-2.4.20-alpha4 with bluez-libs_2.23_arm.ipk and bluez-utils_2.23_arm.ipk. I was just trying to connect to an Apple BT mouse.

Belkin f8t003 ver. 2.11
All works as it should

D-Link DBT-120 H/W: B3 (I borrowed it from the mouse owner)
hciconfig -a shows nothing
hcitool scan errors out no such device
BUT the mouse will automatically connect
The Mac Keyboard would never connect though...

Ambicom BT2000C USB S/N HT0439EI4918
hciconfig -a works
hcitool scan gives a timeout error
The weird thing is lsusb show 4 devices
Never could connect it to the mouse or keyboard.

I found a webpage here :
http://gypsyblue.ddo.jp/cgi-bin/fswiki/wik...%C6%A4%DF%A4%EB

Where a guy says he's about 30% there using a mobilecast mClip Audio2. He can connect (l2ping), and send data but no sound comes out.

The comment on the bottom someone tried with a # Plantronics Pulsar 590A Bluetooth and got some noise but no real sound.

There are a couple of IPK's on the page to try as well. He mentions that the a2play requires mpg123 as a pipe because of a data format issue. As well as the fact that it is run out of the bluetooth-alsa project, the lack of alsa on the z is probably the problem...

This post is one of the reasons I bought these 2 Bluetooth dongles.
(One for my PC, one for my Z)
---------------------------------------------------
Kensington Bluetooth EDR Dongle
Device Properties

Manufacturer: Broadcom Corporation
Firmware Reversion: Version 8192.65 / 39
Device Address: 00:03:C9:BD:2F:0B
HCI Version: Bluetooth HCI 2.0
HCI Revision: 2000
LMP Version: Bluetooth LMP 2.0
LMP Sub Version: 4127
---------------------------------------------------
When trying to use PAN, I get a connection notice on my PC.
The bluetooth icon turns green in the white area, and my handheld icon in BT neighborhood turns green with a <--> symbol.
My Zaurus locks up for a moment, then after about 15 seconds the connection drops and my Zaurus is not locked up anymore.
I also have had some strange things happen when connecting thru PAN and WinXP
My Zaurus will reboot to the stage of "Wait", (countdown 5,4,3,2,1). Then it restarts Qtopia.
Also several times when connecting thru PAN as above, my screen will rotate to Portrait mode.
I have to manually rotate the screen back and forth to clear it up, or I have to reboot Qtopia.

cell phone and compact flash connect fine on my z, Im currently updating the bluez driver to work for me today. after i get that situated, i will try and connect my zaurus to my laptop which is an old armada 1750 running 256 mb of memory and 80gb hardrive. usb bluetooth. after that, ill see if i have a suggestion. running xp on it as well.
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small update, cacko bluez don't seem to work at all. it finds my s56 but it wont connect to it. ill see whats going on.

so no one has gotten sound outta a headset yet huh?

I could use some help with Bluetooth on a c1000.....

First, I'm running the Cracko Lite ROM version 1.23, and so far everything is working very well.

I have an Ambicom BT2000D-CF card, but when I insert it in the slot, it is identified as a Billionton/Chronos card.
When I open the Network applet and start to configure the Bluetooth connection, I can discover all the other Bluetooth devices around me, so I assume the radio part is working.

Now, here's my problem. I have a bluetooth enabled phone, and all I want to do is connect to the phone and have it dial #777 and start working as a modem. That works OK from my PC (Windows) and I can get onto the Internet just fine. On the PC, I paired the two devices, and now it is just a click away to use the phone as a modem.

With the Zaurus, I can show the Zaurus as paired on the phone end, but the Z itself doesn't show the pairing with the phone. Also, it keeps asking for a username and password, like it was a wired modem. The username and password for the cellular network are stored in the phone (I don't even know what they are). I have set the correct pin for the phone in /etc/buetooth/givepin.

Poking around in the config files, I find various entries for the Ambicom BT2000C and BT2000E, but nothing for the BT2000D; also it is recognized as Billionton when I plug it in. Is there some config I need to edit to get the Z to recognize the card correctly?

Any help would be appreciated.

TIA

Walt

Not sure whether you have any bluetooth problem. I use my cell phone via bluetooth as a modem routinely and do need to enter the username and password in Cacko. Check www.howardforums.com for your particular cell phone and you'll probably find all the non-Zaurus specific information you need.

no username password needed.