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Devz
Heyas, just to let u guys know, if you havent seen already:
http://www.linuxdevices.com/cgi-bin/printe...id=NS7056225751

Or without the writeup, the actual product page:
http://www.lycoris.com/products/pocketpc/


Enjoy.

- Devz
Anonymous
i see lycoris stole Opie on their screenshots.
Devz
Nice reference links tapjpa, thanks.
treke
Tough to steal something that is open source
dawest
Good Point... I thought the whole point of open source was to make it available for developement by others?!?! Not to make others come begging for this or that to be improved or developed along this line...

Maybe not?
DW
tapjpa
Personally I'm looking forward to this ROM, from what I have read so far on this it sounds like this should be a good solid ROM with plenty of function.
Just hoping the PocketPC monicker they gave the product doesn't ruffle M$ feathers and delay the release.
VeeDubb
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Just hoping the PocketPC monicker they gave the product doesn't ruffle M$ feathers and delay the release.


THat was my response in the first thread about this. I just can't imagine any possible way that this ISN'T a gross copyright violation.
Devz
I have read somewhere that there was no copyright issues relating to the phrase 'Pocket PC'

If anyone can grab a relative link, or post any other evidence, please do.
Anonymous
Lycoris probably should have named it Pocket/LX just to be safe.
lpotter
the problem Opie devs have with this, is that Lycoris has only taken something, they haven't given back (in the form of development/code) to Opie. The problem Trolltech has with this is they did not license libraries from Trolltech, so it will be illegal for any closed source commercial Qtopia software to be written/run on this. See foot. Shoot.
Joshp
All this is I think is just OZ with more eye candy. The way I look at is if you want something thats going to be userfrandley buy a wince or palm device. And the fact that thay toke the code moded it and did not release the sorce goes aganst the GPL. Now for the good ? whan thay relase (if) will it cost any thing. Will thay release the source after thay release the fianle prodect? Or maybe thay wont realse the source. Witch if I am not mistaken is illeagl is it not?

JP
amrein
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The way I look at is if you want something thats going to be userfrandley buy a wince or palm device.


Good jocke. I'm still laughing. biggrin.gif
Are you a comic?

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The problem Trolltech has with this is they did not license libraries from Trolltech, so it will be illegal for any closed source commercial Qtopia software to be written/run on this.


Commercial QTE licencies have the rigth to run their software on any QTE version (GPL+ or closed source), don't they? This is what I read on Trolltech web site 3 months ago (the GPL addon for QTE give them this rigth).

The only problem I see is that if Lycoris doesn't share the modified Qtopia source and still doesn't buy the Qtopia/QTE commercial licence then they will be in trouble.
padishah_emperor
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I have read somewhere that there was no copyright issues relating to the phrase 'Pocket PC'

If anyone can grab a relative link, or post any other evidence, please do.


I think thats right, if I remember a British company called DIP was the first to make a 'Pocket PC', Atari sold the machine as what is commonly called the Atari Portfolio. But it is actually a DIP 'Pocket PC'. Maybe the current owners of the Atari name or decendants of DIP have a secret court action waiting for just the right time..... oh God please let it be!

As for Lycoris on my Z, I wouldn't run their stuff on a PC, I don't like Opie very much and I doubt I'd bother with it, especially if there is a price tag. But if they commit their changes to the community then it could be a good thing, that's my tuppence worth..
vishnja
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As for Lycoris on my Z, I wouldn't run their stuff on a PC, I don't like Opie very much and I doubt I'd bother with it, especially if there is a price tag. But if they commit their changes to the community then it could be a good thing, that's my tuppence worth..


I don't like Lycoris either. And they will have to support the new Zauri to get a little interest, as the market changed over the last months a lot. There are already several ROMs available, and IMHO OZ/Opie is the best for the SL5500. So we'll see what they are contributing...
DrWowe
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the problem Opie devs have with this, is that Lycoris has only taken something, they haven't given back (in the form of development/code)  to Opie. The problem Trolltech has with this is they did not license libraries from Trolltech, so it will be illegal for any closed source commercial Qtopia software to be written/run on this. See foot. Shoot.


So, when they actually release a product, they will have to release full source. If not, they can be sued.

And VeeDubb, the issue with the name would not be a copyright issue at all, it would be a trademark issue, which is very different. But there probably isn't one because "Pocket PC" is considered a generic name at this point.

We should all release products called "Pocket PC" just to piss off MS even more. smile.gif
padishah_emperor
LOL! Words of wisdom as always
Stubear
They have to release the source, but nothing in the GPL forbids them charging anything they want for it!

TKC are charging $49.95 for the source of their $6.95 kpat port - TkcTrump. As Lycoris are charging only $30 for their desktop version it might not be too expensive.

Stu
Joshp
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They have to release the source, but nothing in the GPL forbids them charging anything they want for it!

TKC are charging $49.95 for the source of their $6.95 kpat port - TkcTrump. As Lycoris are charging only $30 for their desktop version it might not be too expensive.

Stu


Correct me if I am worng. But once you buy the source cant you just relase it to the world for free.

JP
Stubear
Yep, you can give to as many people as you like for as much or as little as you like. Same for the binaries.

Stu
Devz
Seems Lycoris are taking their sweet time with this new desktop.
Considering i made the original post on the 10th of Feb, and here it is the 15th of Sept, im wondering if we will ever see the end product.

Lets continue to 'hope' that it may be worth looking at.

In the time being, i'll have to hunt down other desktops for my Zaurus to keep me happy.

- Devz
nathanwms
Hey!

Anyone have any news on whether this will ever be released? Though I'm curious, I'll stick with the Cacko Rom unless this is a huge improvement.
wmadan
Read the letter the president of Lycoris recently issued. It says they are dropping the Pocket PC edition.

Link: http://www.lycoris.org/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=126

Bill
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