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rokugo
I've just finished installing Cacko Rom 1.23 on my C1000 and converting it back to full Japanese.
You may ask, why bother when the original ROM is already Japanese ?
Well naturally like the rest of the folks here, I wanted the speed improvements in video playback plus the many other drivers and kernel tweaks. Furthermore, it was the only way to get my Sony Clie PEGA-WL100 wifi CF card (actually a rebadged Intel PRO/Wireless 2011B ) to work on the C1000. And lastly, it gave me the opportunity to free up the 33MB of internal memory taken up by the SLJisho dictionary which I`ve outgrown.

For those still unfamiliar with the Zaurus, the language conversion process involves putting back the .qm and lib files from the original Sharp ROM, which can be done by simply installing the Japanese support packages. However, the packages are missing a few files.
This brief guide will go through the installation steps and explain how to "manually" add the missing files. It's a straightforward exercise (though admittedly I spent an entire week searching for the solution to the keyboard error) considering the amount of work already done by the Cacko team in compiling the support packages smile.gif

It goes without saying that you should first backup your PIM data (from /home/zaurus/Applications/dtm )and other personal settings before proceeding. I would also recommend doing a NAND backup (since you NEED to restore to the original Japanese ROM for your Zaurus warranty to remain valid)

(Updated 18-5-2006 to include the C860 guide and optional and previously missing items)

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A) Installation steps for SL-C1000:
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1) Flash with Full Cacko ROM 1.23 by following the guide in Maslovsky's site.
Be sure to get the right package for the C1000.
http://cacko.oesf.org/downloads/rom/1.23/S...-1029311005.zip

2) Install the Japanese support packages:
http://web.mol.ru/~zaurus/feed/japanese-help_1.23_arm.ipk , and then
http://web.mol.ru/~zaurus/feed/japanese-su...1k_1.23_arm.ipk
Qtopia will be restart automatically.
You will now get the Japanese keyboard and handwriting input, but everything else is still in English.

3) Install ZEditor:
http://web.mol.ru/~zaurus/feed/zeditor_2.2...glish-1_arm.ipk
Assign root privilege to ZEditor, then go to /home/zaurus/Settings/locale.conf.
Open the file and change the language to Japanese:
Language = ja
Save and reboot.
You will now be greeted by the familiar Japanese system messages and menus, and most of the applications are now in Japanese.

4) The remaining few applications that are still in English will have to be manually converted.
So you will need the files from the original Japanese ROM, which I've consolidated and uploaded here:
japanese-support-c1k_&_c860_1.23_supplementary.zip
(unzip it on your PC then transfer to Zaurus)

Install TreeExplorerQT:
http://web.mol.ru/~zaurus/feed/treeexplorer_1.7.5-1_arm.ipk
and use it to copy the unzipped supplementary files into the appropriate directories as follows:
(Note: you will also need to set the file permissions manually once they're in place; take reference from the existing files in each directory )

5) HancomWord -- still in English.
Replace /opt/QtPalmtop/binlib/HandcomeMobileWord.so

6) Text Editor -- In the character code setup menu (文字コード設定) , SHIFT-JIS, JIS and EUC options are missing.
Replace /opt/QtPalmtop/binlib/textedit.so

7) User Dictionary -- missing.
Add these 2 files:
/opt/QtPalmtop/apps/Applications/userdic.desktop
/opt/QtPalmtop/bin/userdic

8) Opera 7.25 -- mojibake when viewing Japanese sites.
Replace /opt/QtPalmtop/opera/chartables.bin

9) Japanese handwriting input (CRIM) panel-- input method icons are missing
Add the ten *.png files into /opt/QtPalmtop/pics144

10) Perform a backup now!
Then proceed to the final step.

11) Keyboard -- In Japanese input mode, pressing Shift+0 produces mojibake instead of the expected full-width tilde.
===================================================================
Caution: take special care when editing qpe.sh, as it controls the Qtopia user interface
===================================================================
Use Zeditor to edit /home/QtPalmtop/qpe.sh as follows:
delete the line:
export UNICODEMAP="cp866"
and replace it with:
export UNICODEMAP_JP="open-19970715-ms,cp932,nec-vdc,ibm-vdc,udc"
(just copy and paste the line using the included .txt version of this guide)

12) save and exit, then Reboot.
Congratulations, you now have full Japanese support on your C1000.
note: If your Zaurus starts acting strange, it probably means you've messed up qpe.sh.
Simplest way to fix this is to reformat and use the backup from step 10.

13) Optional items:
a ) SLJisho (the built-in dictionary software)
Add these 2 files:
/opt/QtPalmtop/bin/sljisho
/opt/QtPalmtop/apps/Applications/sljisho.desktop
and restart Qtopia.
Then install the dictionary data files : http://web.mol.ru/~zaurus/feed/japanese-dict_1.0-2_arm.ipk

b ) J/E Translator
Application files: http://web.mol.ru/~zaurus/feed/translator_1.0.0-1_arm.ipk
The two sets of translator data files are found in the Installation CD-ROM.
Or you can download from the Cacko feed:
http://web.mol.ru/~zaurus/feed/translator-...1.0.0-1_arm.ipk
http://web.mol.ru/~zaurus/feed/translator-...1.0.0-1_arm.ipk


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
B ) Installation steps for SL-C860:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


1) Flash with Full Cacko ROM 1.23 by following the guide in Maslovsky's site.
Be sure to get the right package for the C860.
http://cacko.oesf.org/downloads/rom/1.23/S...-1029311005.zip

2)The カナひら and 全/半 keys are currently mapped as Ctrl and Alt keys respectively.
So you need to flash the latest Japanese kernel patch to release these two keys (not required for C1000 and later models).
http://cacko.oesf.org/downloads/rom/1.23/C...-1132170506.zip

3) Install the Japanese support package:
http://web.mol.ru/~zaurus/feed/japanese-support_1.1_arm.ipk
(this package already includes the japanese helpfiles)
Qtopia will be restart automatically.
You will now get the Japanese keyboard and handwriting input, but everything else is still in English.

4) Install ZEditor:
http://web.mol.ru/~zaurus/feed/zeditor_2.2...glish-1_arm.ipk
Assign root privilege to ZEditor, then go to /home/zaurus/Settings/locale.conf.
Open the file and change the language to Japanese:
Language = ja
Save and reboot.
You will now be greeted by the familiar Japanese system messages and menus, and most of the applications are now in Japanese.

5) The remaining few applications that are still in English will have to be manually converted.
So you will need the files from the original Japanese ROM, which I've consolidated and uploaded here:
http://www.aonorokugo.net/rokugo/misc/zaur...pplementary.zip
(unzip it on your PC then transfer to Zaurus)

Install TreeExplorerQT:
http://web.mol.ru/~zaurus/feed/treeexplorer_1.7.5-1_arm.ipk
and use it to copy the unzipped supplementary files into the appropriate directories as follows:
(Note: you will also need to set the file permissions manually once they're in place; take reference from the existing files in each directory )

6) HancomWord -- still in English.
Replace /opt/QtPalmtop/binlib/HandcomeMobileWord.so

7) Text Editor -- In the character code setup menu (文字コード設定) , SHIFT-JIS, JIS and EUC options are missing.
Replace /opt/QtPalmtop/binlib/textedit.so

8 ) User Dictionary -- missing.
Add these 2 files:
/opt/QtPalmtop/apps/Applications/userdic.desktop
/opt/QtPalmtop/bin/userdic

9) Opera 7.25 -- mojibake when viewing Japanese sites.
Replace /opt/QtPalmtop/opera/chartables.bin

10) Japanese handwriting input (CRIM) panel-- input method icons are missing
Add the ten *.png files into /opt/QtPalmtop/pics144

11) Perform a backup now!
Then proceed to the final step.

12) Keyboard -- In Japanese input mode, pressing Shift+0 produces mojibake instead of the expected full-width tilde.
===================================================================
Caution: take special care when editing qpe.sh, as it controls the Qtopia user interface
===================================================================
Use Zeditor to edit /home/QtPalmtop/qpe.sh as follows:
delete the line:
export UNICODEMAP="cp866"
and replace it with:
export UNICODEMAP_JP="open-19970715-ms,cp932,nec-vdc,ibm-vdc,udc"
(just copy and paste the line using the included .txt version of this guide)

13) save and exit, then Reboot.
Congratulations, you now have full Japanese support on your C860.
note: If your Zaurus starts acting strange, it probably means you've messed up qpe.sh.
Simplest way to fix this is to reformat and use the backup from step 11.

14) Optional items:
a ) SLJisho (the built-in dictionary software)
Add these 2 files:
/opt/QtPalmtop/bin/sljisho
/opt/QtPalmtop/apps/Applications/sljisho.desktop
and restart Qtopia.
Then install the dictionary data files : http://web.mol.ru/~zaurus/feed/japanese-dict_1.0-2_arm.ipk

b ) J/E Translator
Application files: http://web.mol.ru/~zaurus/feed/translator_1.0.0-1_arm.ipk
The two sets of translator data files are found in the Installation CD-ROM.
Or you can download from the Cacko feed:
http://web.mol.ru/~zaurus/feed/translator-...1.0.0-1_arm.ipk
http://web.mol.ru/~zaurus/feed/translator-...1.0.0-1_arm.ipk

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maslovsky
Pinned the topic, very usefull!
kahm
QUOTE(maslovsky @ Dec 28 2005, 08:23 AM)
Pinned the topic, very usefull!
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As soon as I can get 2 free minutes to rub together, I'm going to update the FAQ for Cacko 1.23.
rokugo
wow, I didn't expect it to be pinned up (blush) smile.gif

QUOTE(kahm @ Dec 29 2005, 05:29 AM)
QUOTE(maslovsky @ Dec 28 2005, 08:23 AM)
Pinned the topic, very usefull!
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As soon as I can get 2 free minutes to rub together, I'm going to update the FAQ for Cacko 1.23.
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That'll be great. Better still if the Japanese Support ipks can be updated to include my supplementary files and keyboard fix.
kahm
QUOTE(rokugo @ Dec 29 2005, 01:07 AM)
wow, I didn't expect it to be pinned up (blush)  smile.gif

QUOTE(kahm @ Dec 29 2005, 05:29 AM)
QUOTE(maslovsky @ Dec 28 2005, 08:23 AM)
Pinned the topic, very usefull!
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As soon as I can get 2 free minutes to rub together, I'm going to update the FAQ for Cacko 1.23.
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That'll be great. Better still if the Japanese Support ipks can be updated to include my supplementary files and keyboard fix.
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I'll try and take a look at it next weekend, then.
snk4ever
thank you soooo much !
I was waiting for this !
xamindar
Great howto! Thank you. There is just one problem. Now this might be because I'm on a c3100 and not a 1000, I don't know. But there are no japanese fonts installed. Applications like tree explorer show blocks.

QUOTE(rokugo @ Dec 27 2005, 11:24 PM)
Save and exit, then reboot.
You will now be greeted by the familiar Japanese system messages and menus, and most of the applications are now in Japanese.


And upon a reboot everything is still in english. I'm looking right now for the fonts, maybe they are in the feed.

Dang, ok I figured out I installed the japanese support package for the c1k instead of the one for the 3100. I reformatted to start fresh and installed the c3100 support package from the cacko feed. Now qtopia wont start any more.....what is wrong?
Meanie
QUOTE(xamindar @ Feb 8 2006, 08:26 AM)
Great howto!  Thank you.  There is just one problem.  Now this might be because I'm on a c3100 and not a 1000, I don't know.  But there are no japanese fonts installed.  Applications like tree explorer show blocks.

QUOTE(rokugo @ Dec 27 2005, 11:24 PM)
Save and exit, then reboot.
You will now be greeted by the familiar Japanese system messages and menus, and most of the applications are now in Japanese.


And upon a reboot everything is still in english. I'm looking right now for the fonts, maybe they are in the feed.

Dang, ok I figured out I installed the japanese support package for the c1k instead of the one for the 3100. I reformatted to start fresh and installed the c3100 support package from the cacko feed. Now qtopia wont start any more.....what is wrong?
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If you boot into the console using D+B boot, then you can mount /dev/mtdbock3 and delete libCRIM.* and it will let you boot into qtopia again. the package is also missing the icons for the inputmethods sad.gif
xamindar
OK, I give up, where are the japanese fonts?

QUOTE(Meanie @ Feb 7 2006, 08:42 PM)
If you boot into the console using D+B boot, then you can mount /dev/mtdbock3 and delete libCRIM.* and it will let you boot into qtopia again. the package is also missing the icons for the inputmethods sad.gif
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Thanks, hey isn't CRIM the character recognition? Does that mean cacko rom on the 3100 doesn't have this?
rokugo
QUOTE(xamindar @ Feb 8 2006, 02:01 PM)
OK, I give up, where are the japanese fonts?

QUOTE(Meanie @ Feb 7 2006, 08:42 PM)
If you boot into the console using D+B boot, then you can mount /dev/mtdbock3 and delete libCRIM.* and it will let you boot into qtopia again. the package is also missing the icons for the inputmethods sad.gif
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Thanks, hey isn't CRIM the character recognition? Does that mean cacko rom on the 3100 doesn't have this?
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I think you should reflash cacko, and retry from square one.
Like I mentioned, my guide is strictly for the C1000, so obviously in steps 1 and 2 you need to get the 3100 version of the support files since some of the lib files are specific to each model.

And similarly in steps 5 to 7 its safer to get the files from your own C3100.

-Japanese Fonts-
you don't need to install any. All the japanese fonts are handled by the LCfonts (just like in the original japanese ROM) which are already in the Cacko ROM. LCfonts will automatically become the system font when you set the language to "ja".

-CRIM-
yes it handles the japanese handwriting system and IME (and therefore omitted from Cacko ROM).
It gets (re)installed into your Zaurus in step 2 of my guide.
The few missing icons (eg when you switch to the 'gojuon' input and the 50音 icon appears) mentioned by Meanie are purely cosmetic so I didn't bother with them. You can still get them from /opt/QtPalmtop/pics144/padselect*
(10 small png files) from the original Japanese ROM.
Maybe I'll include them in a later update for the sake of completeness.
xamindar
Ok reflashed to the sharp rom and now I'm back in cacko with some usefull things.

First of all, for any c3100 users out there who are doing this the "japanese-support-c3100_1.23_arm.ipk" is somewhat broken. For some reason after it is installed qtopia will crash. Thanks to meanie I learned that it is something to do with libCRIM that it installs. I fixed it by deleting those libCRIM files that the support package installs and replacing them with the libCRIM files from my japanese sharp rom. libCRIM is located in
/opt/QtPalmtop/plugins/inputmethods/

I attached libCRIM.tar so you c3100 users can just untar the libs and copy them to the above location. "tar -xvf libCRIM.tar" should do it.


Second, the input method icons seem to be missing. I don't know if this is a c3100 cacko problem or a universal one. Anyway just untar the input_icons.tar package and copy the png files into /opt/QtPalmtop/pics144/ and then you have them. biggrin.gif
MordanXL
Hello,

i have a C860 and want to use the new 1.23 Version of Cacko-Rom, but i need full support of japanese. Is there a special japanese Kernel for it like for the 1.22.

thanks
rokugo
QUOTE(MordanXL @ Feb 11 2006, 09:50 AM)
Hello,

i have a C860 and want to use the new 1.23 Version of Cacko-Rom, but i need full support of japanese. Is there a special japanese Kernel for it like for the 1.22.

thanks
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According to this thread: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=15826
you don't need a separate kernel.
And you'll probably have an easier time with setting up a full japanese environment than if you were to make it dual-language like in the thread.
MordanXL
thank u for the fast answer, i will flash the 1.23 this weekend.
snk4ever
QUOTE(rokugo @ Dec 27 2005, 11:24 PM)
I
Install TreeExplorerQT http://web.mol.ru/~zaurus/feed/treeexplorer_1.7.5-1_arm.ipk and use it to copy the unzipped supplementary files into the appropriate directories as follows:
(Note: you will also need to set the file permissions manually in TreeExplorer;  take reference from the existing files in each directory )

5) HancomWord -- still in English.
Replace  /opt/QtPalmtop/binlib/HandcomeMobileWord.so

6) Text Editor -- In the character code setup menu (文字コード設定) ,  SHIFT-JIS, JIS and EUC options are missing.
Replace  /opt/QtPalmtop/binlib/textedit.so

7) User Dictionary -- missing.
Add these 2 files:
opt/QtPalmtop/apps/Applications/userdic.desktop
opt/QtPalmtop/bin/userdic

8) Opera 7.25 -- mojibake when viewing Japanese sites.
Replace  /opt/QtPalmtop/opera/chartables.bin
(the replacement file was extracted from http://web.mol.ru/~zaurus/feed/opera-chart..._7.25-2_arm.ipk  )



I can't extract zip files with treeexplorer!
So I did it on another computer and made a tar. Now I have the files but I can't overwrite the files from /opt/QtPalmtop/binlib/ for example because it says it's read-only sad.gif
xamindar
QUOTE(snk4ever @ Mar 1 2006, 08:09 AM)
I can't extract zip files with treeexplorer!
So I did it on another computer and made a tar. Now I have the files but I can't overwrite the files from /opt/QtPalmtop/binlib/ for example because it says it's read-only  sad.gif
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To unzip type "unzip [filename]" at a console

To replace those read only files just delete the destination file first.
jubei29
Hi all. It seems that this steps forgot the installation of the executable 'sljisho' and his desktop shortcut. I finally extracted it from the 'japanese-support_1.0-3_arm.ipk' file.
I thought this could be a big headache for many people.

Thanks for the tutorial wink.gif

P.D.: I'm sorry for my bad english sad.gif
MordanXL
Hello,

flashed Cacko 1.23 with japanese support. The little Problem i have is that i cant use the japanese keys to change the input method. Has someone an idea how to fix this?? I tried the keyhelper, but i dont know how to use it.

thanks
rokugo
QUOTE(jubei29 @ Mar 26 2006, 05:37 PM)
Hi all. It seems that this steps forgot the installation of the executable 'sljisho' and his desktop shortcut. I finally extracted it from the 'japanese-support_1.0-3_arm.ipk' file.
I thought this could be a big headache for many people.

Thanks for the tutorial wink.gif

P.D.: I'm sorry for my bad english sad.gif
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I didn't forget the sljisho installation. As I explained in the guide it was no longer useful to me and it takes up 33MB of internal memory, so I didn't bother smile.gif

In any case, couldn't you just install it directly from the ipk?
http://web.mol.ru/~zaurus/feed/japanese-dict_1.0-2_arm.ipk
rokugo
QUOTE(MordanXL @ Mar 28 2006, 05:44 AM)
Hello,

flashed Cacko 1.23 with japanese support. The little Problem i have is that i cant use the japanese keys to change the input method. Has someone an idea how to fix this?? I tried the keyhelper, but i dont know how to use it.

thanks
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I wrote the guide specifically for the C1000, so I'm not too sure about your problem, but for step 10 be sure to follow your C860's original japanese qpe.sh script.

Or perhaps the keyhelper in the C860 Cacko has remapped the two japanese keys into something else. Try deleting the keyhelper.xml and keyhelper.conf files (or safer, move them somewhere else).


Btw did you encounter any other problems? I'll be getting a new C860 by end of this week (hopefully)and converting it to Cacko Japanese so any feedback will be helpful.
rokugo
QUOTE(MordanXL @ Mar 28 2006, 05:44 AM)
Hello,

flashed Cacko 1.23 with japanese support. The little Problem i have is that i cant use the japanese keys to change the input method. Has someone an idea how to fix this?? I tried the keyhelper, but i dont know how to use it.

thanks
*


Tried it myself on my new C860, unfortunately fiddling with keyhelper won't help sad.gif

Looks like we have to wait for a kernel patch to free up the Japanese keys.

(I've updated my guide to mention this).
Meanie
QUOTE(rokugo @ Apr 6 2006, 05:33 PM)
QUOTE(MordanXL @ Mar 28 2006, 05:44 AM)
Hello,

flashed Cacko 1.23 with japanese support. The little Problem i have is that i cant use the japanese keys to change the input method. Has someone an idea how to fix this?? I tried the keyhelper, but i dont know how to use it.

thanks
*


Tried it myself on my new C860, unfortunately fiddling with keyhelper won't help sad.gif

Looks like we have to wait for a kernel patch to free up the Japanese keys.

(I've updated my guide to mention this).
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all you need to do is unmap key F26 and F27
rokugo
QUOTE(Meanie @ Apr 6 2006, 03:51 PM)
all you need to do is unmap key F26 and F27
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Well yes that's the idea, but easier said than done.
In the C860 series Cacko the mapping isn't done at the Qtopia level via keyhelper+Cyrillica, but at the kernel level. This is my understanding based on Maslovsky's "Japanese kernel for Cacko rom" thread.
And its actually F26 and F21.
MordanXL
Any news on this topic? ...would it make sence, if i flash the Cacko1.23 with the japanese Kernel from the 1.22?? Or did anyone found a way to remap the keys?

Martin
rokugo
QUOTE
would it make sence, if i flash the Cacko1.23 with the japanese Kernel from the 1.22??


I've actually tried it earlier on. It does release the two keys, but unfortunately it will also screw up the memory card mount/unmount process, among other things...
MordanXL
QUOTE(rokugo @ May 7 2006, 11:44 AM)
QUOTE
would it make sence, if i flash the Cacko1.23 with the japanese Kernel from the 1.22??


I've actually tried it earlier on. It does release the two keys, but unfortunately it will also screw up the memory card mount/unmount process, among other things...
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looks like there is no way sad.gif
maslovsky
Please, try this update (for C7x0/C860):

http://cacko.oesf.org/downloads/rom/1.23/C...-1132170506.zip
http://cacko.oesf.org/downloads/rom/1.23/C...-1132170506.md5

This kernel is built without remapping Japanese keys to Ctrl and Alt.
rokugo
QUOTE(maslovsky @ May 17 2006, 04:30 PM)
Please, try this update (for C7x0/C860):

http://cacko.oesf.org/downloads/rom/1.23/C...-1132170506.zip
http://cacko.oesf.org/downloads/rom/1.23/C...-1132170506.md5

This kernel is built without remapping Japanese keys to Ctrl and Alt.
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Thank you very much ! smile.gif

Will try out the patch now.
MordanXL
QUOTE(maslovsky @ May 17 2006, 09:30 AM)
Please, try this update (for C7x0/C860):

http://cacko.oesf.org/downloads/rom/1.23/C...-1132170506.zip
http://cacko.oesf.org/downloads/rom/1.23/C...-1132170506.md5

This kernel is built without remapping Japanese keys to Ctrl and Alt.
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Thank you very much.
Martin
rokugo
Ive updated the guide to include the C860, as well as optional and previously missing items. Much more complete now I think.
maslovsky
Japanese kernels for Cacko ROM 1.23 have been released (for SL-CxK models only).

Please, visit http://cacko.biz/cacko/ for download links.
xotica
QUOTE(xamindar @ Feb 8 2006, 09:52 PM)
Ok reflashed to the sharp rom and now I'm back in cacko with some usefull things. 

First of all, for any c3100 users out there who are doing this the "japanese-support-c3100_1.23_arm.ipk" is somewhat broken.  For some reason after it is installed qtopia will crash.  Thanks to meanie I learned that it is something to do with libCRIM that it installs.  I fixed it by deleting those libCRIM files that the support package installs and replacing them with the libCRIM files from my japanese sharp rom.  libCRIM is located in
/opt/QtPalmtop/plugins/inputmethods/

I attached libCRIM.tar so you c3100 users can just untar the libs and copy them to the above location.  "tar -xvf libCRIM.tar" should do it.


Second, the input method icons seem to be missing.  I don't know if this is a c3100 cacko problem or a universal one.  Anyway just untar the input_icons.tar package and copy the png files into /opt/QtPalmtop/pics144/ and then you have them. biggrin.gif
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Hi xamindar, thanks for your guide.
I am having a little trouble setting up the Japanese fonts on my c3100. First I installed the two japanese support packages. Next (without rebooting) I replaced the old libCRIM files with the libCRIM files in the attatched .tar. After I reboot I am able to change the language input icon at the bottom of the screen to hiragana but cannot input japanese characters. Am I missing something obvious here? Any help would be welcomed.

Thanks,
Allen
moku
QUOTE(xotica @ Jul 8 2006, 02:36 PM)
Hi xamindar, thanks for your guide.
I am having a little trouble setting up the Japanese fonts on my c3100.  First I installed the two japanese support packages.  Next (without rebooting) I replaced the old libCRIM files with the libCRIM files in the attatched .tar.  After I reboot I am able to change the language input icon at the bottom of the screen to hiragana but cannot input japanese characters.  Am I missing something obvious here?  Any help would be welcomed.

Thanks,
Allen
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Like the above poster I am having the same problems. I can input japanese from CRIM but japanese keyboard input is a no go. When i press the kanji button next to the "-" button most programs just close. Ive tried both meanies japanese-suport ipk and the other one from this thread, neither have allowed me to enter japanese characters via the keyboard. I even reflashed cacko with the japanese kernel to no avail. Does anyone have any ideas? Ohh by the way this is on a c3100 and the ipks i installed were the ones made for the c3100.

Thanks in Advance
aaaweez
QUOTE(moku @ Sep 8 2006, 01:21 AM)
QUOTE(xotica @ Jul 8 2006, 02:36 PM)

Hi xamindar, thanks for your guide.
I am having a little trouble setting up the Japanese fonts on my c3100.  First I installed the two japanese support packages.  Next (without rebooting) I replaced the old libCRIM files with the libCRIM files in the attatched .tar.  After I reboot I am able to change the language input icon at the bottom of the screen to hiragana but cannot input japanese characters.  Am I missing something obvious here?  Any help would be welcomed.

Thanks,
Allen
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Like the above poster I am having the same problems. I can input japanese from CRIM but japanese keyboard input is a no go. When i press the kanji button next to the "-" button most programs just close. Ive tried both meanies japanese-suport ipk and the other one from this thread, neither have allowed me to enter japanese characters via the keyboard. I even reflashed cacko with the japanese kernel to no avail. Does anyone have any ideas? Ohh by the way this is on a c3100 and the ipks i installed were the ones made for the c3100.

Thanks in Advance
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Just finished following the instructions myself on my C3100 and I had the same problem. Most applications would just close if I opened the "50on" input method. I sshed in, ran netfront3 under strace and discovered that one of the Settings files had the wrong permissions. It was root:qpe instead of zaurus:qpe and that apparently was causing netfront to freak out. After changing it:

chown zaurus:qpe /home/zaurus/Settings/kogatagaku.da

Things seem to be working better now.

Just a quick summary of what I did:
Installed japanese-help_1.23_arm.ipk and japanese-support-c3100_1.23_arm.ipk
untarred input_icons.tar and libCRIM.tar as per the instructions in the earler post
changed lang=jp
restarted qtopia
fixed the permissions on the above mentioned file.
aaaweez
QUOTE(aaaweez @ Sep 24 2006, 01:05 PM)
QUOTE(moku @ Sep 8 2006, 01:21 AM)
QUOTE(xotica @ Jul 8 2006, 02:36 PM)

Hi xamindar, thanks for your guide.
I am having a little trouble setting up the Japanese fonts on my c3100.  First I installed the two japanese support packages.  Next (without rebooting) I replaced the old libCRIM files with the libCRIM files in the attatched .tar.  After I reboot I am able to change the language input icon at the bottom of the screen to hiragana but cannot input japanese characters.  Am I missing something obvious here?  Any help would be welcomed.

Thanks,
Allen
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Like the above poster I am having the same problems. I can input japanese from CRIM but japanese keyboard input is a no go. When i press the kanji button next to the "-" button most programs just close. Ive tried both meanies japanese-suport ipk and the other one from this thread, neither have allowed me to enter japanese characters via the keyboard. I even reflashed cacko with the japanese kernel to no avail. Does anyone have any ideas? Ohh by the way this is on a c3100 and the ipks i installed were the ones made for the c3100.

Thanks in Advance
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Just finished following the instructions myself on my C3100 and I had the same problem. Most applications would just close if I opened the "50on" input method. I sshed in, ran netfront3 under strace and discovered that one of the Settings files had the wrong permissions. It was root:qpe instead of zaurus:qpe and that apparently was causing netfront to freak out. After changing it:

chown zaurus:qpe /home/zaurus/Settings/kogatagaku.da

Things seem to be working better now.

Just a quick summary of what I did:
Installed japanese-help_1.23_arm.ipk and japanese-support-c3100_1.23_arm.ipk
untarred input_icons.tar and libCRIM.tar as per the instructions in the earler post
changed lang=jp
restarted qtopia
fixed the permissions on the above mentioned file.
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I spoke too soon. It turns out that netfront did not have focus or something when the keyboard was activated. As soon as I clicked on it, it disappeared. I will have to do some further looking.
kurochka
QUOTE(aaaweez @ Sep 24 2006, 01:05 PM)
QUOTE(moku @ Sep 8 2006, 01:21 AM)
QUOTE(xotica @ Jul 8 2006, 02:36 PM)

Hi xamindar, thanks for your guide.
I am having a little trouble setting up the Japanese fonts on my c3100.  First I installed the two japanese support packages.  Next (without rebooting) I replaced the old libCRIM files with the libCRIM files in the attatched .tar.  After I reboot I am able to change the language input icon at the bottom of the screen to hiragana but cannot input japanese characters.  Am I missing something obvious here?  Any help would be welcomed.

Thanks,
Allen
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Like the above poster I am having the same problems. I can input japanese from CRIM but japanese keyboard input is a no go. When i press the kanji button next to the "-" button most programs just close. Ive tried both meanies japanese-suport ipk and the other one from this thread, neither have allowed me to enter japanese characters via the keyboard. I even reflashed cacko with the japanese kernel to no avail. Does anyone have any ideas? Ohh by the way this is on a c3100 and the ipks i installed were the ones made for the c3100.

Thanks in Advance
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Just finished following the instructions myself on my C3100 and I had the same problem. Most applications would just close if I opened the "50on" input method. I sshed in, ran netfront3 under strace and discovered that one of the Settings files had the wrong permissions. It was root:qpe instead of zaurus:qpe and that apparently was causing netfront to freak out. After changing it:

chown zaurus:qpe /home/zaurus/Settings/kogatagaku.da

Things seem to be working better now.

Just a quick summary of what I did:
Installed japanese-help_1.23_arm.ipk and japanese-support-c3100_1.23_arm.ipk
untarred input_icons.tar and libCRIM.tar as per the instructions in the earler post
changed lang=jp
restarted qtopia
fixed the permissions on the above mentioned file.
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Can somebody confirm if this tutorial works to support Japanese input, dictionaries, etc. on Cacko on a C3100?

Is it required to install the Japanese kernels for Cacko 1.23 that maslovsky posted?

Will I be able to continue to use cyrillica input method and reading Cyrillic text after converting?
kurochka
I have a C3100 running Cacko.

I think I followed all the steps and suggestions correctly. The only thing that I didn't do is to install Japanese kernel (I will try it next). As with others in this thread, Japanese input methods do not work - as soon as I open them the underlying program crashes, and with some inputs the Zaurus reboots. Could somebody who knows what he is doing look at this and give us simple step-by-step?

I wonder if there is a conflict with cyrillica input from Cacko? File permissions? Incorrect files in the package that rokudo supplied (he had C1000 but created a c3100 package as well). Please help.

Is the only way to get reliable Japanese input to go back to Sharp ROM? I like what maslovsky has done.
rokugo
QUOTE(kurochka @ Nov 5 2006, 01:36 AM)
Incorrect files in the package that rokudo supplied (he had C1000 but created a c3100 package as well).  Please help.

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Perhaps you did not read my introductory post: I created this thread and the guide specifically for C860 and C1000.
These are the models I actually own so the packages I created have been tested and I know for certain that they work correctly.

Although I have tried my best to explain what each step of the conversion guide actually does, I have no idea if these steps work the same way with the newer models. And I did not make any packages for the C31000.


btw, forget about the Japanese kernel, it's meant for the earlier Cxx0 models (read post#21 to 28).
ShiroiKuma
QUOTE(kurochka @ Nov 5 2006, 01:36 AM)
Incorrect files in the package that rokudo supplied (he had C1000 but created a c3100 package as well).  Please help.

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I use Cacko 1.23 Japanese on an SL-C3200 without any problems. What I did and what I'd recommend for SL-C3100 users in view of these problems is:

With the Sharp ROM flashed tar the entire root.
Flash Cacko with the Japanese kernel.
Inspect the japanese-support file and recreate the ipk with the files in it taken from the Sharp ROM, I did this with the SL-C3200 since I saw they differed.
Then install the recreated ipk.
Then change the language to Japanese, reboot.

My SL-C3200 now works no probs this way, all the input methods and stuff.
kurochka
QUOTE(rokugo @ Nov 4 2006, 08:08 PM)
Perhaps you did not read my introductory post: I created this thread and the guide specifically for C860 and C1000.
These are the models I actually own so the packages I created have been tested and I know for certain that they work correctly.
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Rokugo, I apologize - I didn't put it right. I did read your post and its limitation and disclaimers. I have no complaints about your guide. I am sure it's great for C1000. I am just looking for solutions for 3100 from somebody else who has this unit. Similar to what ShiroiKuma is saying.

ShiroiKuma, I understand what you are saying. I am just afraid that I will not be able to do it on my own without breaking the system (I don't know how to make an ipk package and I am really bad with Linux commands). Can somebody more experienced and who has 3100 do what ShiroiKuma described and post an ipk for conversion? If nobody does it, then maybe I will venture on my own into the woods.


By the way, can I use the updated 1.02 rom to go back to Sharp ROM from Cacko?

http://support.ezaurus.com/sl-c3100/update...0updatecard.asp
http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl=en&u=...6lr%3D%26sa%3DG

Actually, I think I should use the rom from here: http://downloads.conics.net/pda/zaurus-sl-...iginal-backups/

I tried the rom from Trisoft but it is not the original Japanese rom, it was modified by them.
kwy
Hi,
I have a question on installing Japanese support on my C1000

1) I've Flash with Full Cacko ROM 1.23
2) Install the Japanese support packages:
http://web.mol.ru/~zaurus/feed/japanese-help_1.23_arm.ipk , and then
http://web.mol.ru/~zaurus/feed/japanese-su...1k_1.23_arm.ipk

The Qtopia doesn't restart automatically and it reported error. However, it works but Japanese handwriting input gives a square for the selection. I remove, re-install the japanese-su...1k_1.23_arm.ipk but the problem still exists.

Is it correct to install the japanese-su...1k_1.23_arm.ipk , not the japanese-support_1.1_arm.ipk?

Please advise.

kwy
SL-C1000
Ezekiel
It's because the helvetica fonts used when locale is set to English is not a unicode font, and therefore can't display Japanese characters.

I think you have to either switch to Japanese locale (which means every program is in Japanese), or "remove" those fonts to force the system into using the unicode fonts.
rokugo
QUOTE(kwy @ Dec 6 2006, 05:45 PM)
Hi,
I have a question on installing Japanese support on my C1000

1) I've Flash with Full Cacko ROM 1.23
2) Install the Japanese support packages:
http://web.mol.ru/~zaurus/feed/japanese-help_1.23_arm.ipk , and then
http://web.mol.ru/~zaurus/feed/japanese-su...1k_1.23_arm.ipk

The Qtopia doesn't restart automatically and it reported error. However, it works but Japanese handwriting input gives a square for the selection. I remove, re-install the japanese-su...1k_1.23_arm.ipk but the problem still exists.

Is it correct to install the japanese-su...1k_1.23_arm.ipk , not the japanese-support_1.1_arm.ipk?

Please advise.

kwy
SL-C1000
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Install the exact packages I have linked to.

In step 2, the order in which you install the packages isn't critical. And you can just manually reboot Qtopia.

Then go to step 3 and continue to the end.
kurochka
I gave up on trying to have Japanese support on Cacko on 3100 and went back to stock Sharp Rom. I'd appreciate if anybody could help me with making Cacko and Japanese coexist on my 3100.
kwy
Hi,

I'd like to share my experiences on installing Japanese support on my C1000 which is running Cacko ROM 1.23
I followed the instructions

1) I've Flash with Full Cacko ROM 1.23
2) Install the Japanese support packages:
http://web.mol.ru/~zaurus/feed/japanese-help_1.23_arm.ipk , and then
http://web.mol.ru/~zaurus/feed/japanese-su...1k_1.23_arm.ipk

I get an error on installing japanese-su...1k_1.23_arm.ipk but it still works. At least I can see Japanese Characters. I can keep the en locale, I can see the English program names, ...
The only drawback is a square box (it should show Japanese Characters) displayed in Japanese handwriting.
When I change the locale to jp or zh_TW, it works. As the author say, program names is not showing very well. Displayed fonts are not good.

I'll test Zstyle. I hope it can solve this problem.
ephesians521
Well... after deleting libCRIM* and installing Meanie's ipk for Japanese support. My Cacko 1.23 appears to be going well in the Japanese department. My only problem is I've installed the dictionaries back from my CD-ROMs and created the symlinks to the /hdd3/dict1 and /hdd3/dict2 dirs. But the dictionary and translator programs are still not seeing them.

About 2 years after getting my Z, and I'm working on learning Japanese.. too bad I wasn't doing that when I first got it.

I'm not sure what else needs to be done to get the dictionaries and translator working.

Any help is appreciated.. Thanks.

PeterL
Hi,

Is the file "japanese-support-c1k_&_c860_1.23_supplementary.zip" still available somewhere ? I'm going to try this procedure to restore my C860 to a full Japanese dictionary and this is the only file I can't find online.

Thanks,


Peter.
rokugo
QUOTE(PeterL @ Jul 18 2011, 05:04 AM) *
Hi,

Is the file "japanese-support-c1k_&_c860_1.23_supplementary.zip" still available somewhere ? I'm going to try this procedure to restore my C860 to a full Japanese dictionary and this is the only file I can't find online.

Thanks,


Peter.


Hi,

Hope you'll find it useful:
PeterL

Rokugo,

QUOTE(rokugo @ Jul 18 2011, 01:58 PM) *
Hope you'll find it useful:


Thanks a lot ! I'm in the process of installing the last few bits as we speak and it feels great to have my old Zaurus back. Except it isn't my old Zaurus: it's got all the Cacko improvements !

Now if ever I manage to get back to Japan one day (not so easy with a non-Japan related job and a young kid these days), I'll at least have my dictionaries with my like I'm used to. Simply put, after I "screwed up" my Zaurus C860 by flashing it with another distro without a backup, you saved me a lot of money to buy another hand writing capable denshijisho. Thanks again !


Peter.
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