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malik
hello out there,


i read about users who wanted to sell their tosa, others bought a 2nd
zaurus and again others flash frequently from rom to rom. some time ago
i also had the idea to change the zaurus model. there must be reasons for
that and i think its not the hardware aspect of this device.

the aim of this thread should be to share your thoughts and experiences
on the different roms. it can also be useful for others who want to test
a different rom. what do you like, what do you hate? what works, what doesnt?

i will start with my opinion on the different roms. some of them i used for
several months, some only for several hours. but maybe others will write more
on the roms, i only tested.

before i start, i should mention for what i use my zaurus most of the time:
reading news with opiereader, pim (kopi), latex, wikipedia with zbedic,
from time to time mp3s and ebooks...


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SHARPROM
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for the moment it seems to be the best choice for me. i used it for the
most of the time, but nevertheless my report is short.

installed/working applications (besides usual ones): tex/dviviewer,
usb keyboard (also usb mouse, but i dont use it), xqt/pocketworkstation,
giant icons on root

todo: maybe i will replace the default fonts and update opera

pros: stability, browser opera, wlan out of box

cons: no progress, no development --> no future ?!



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PDAXROM
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i used (maybe i should write tested) it for nearly 3 months with ups and downs.
in the end i had the feeling that i dont use this rom on a daily basis, i was
spending a lot of time in getting things to work. i had problems with
suspend/resume and in some cases only taking off the battery helped.

this was more than 6 months ago. now i tried 1.1 beta out and i was suprised
but in the negative. it took me 10 minutes to flash back as everything
i tried out went wrong: i started scite and dillo, minimized it,
then i recognized that the time was wrong. setting the time resulted in turning
off the backlight and killing the minimized applications?! i added a rotation
applet on the taskbar. but i was not able to rotate back. suspending confuses
me as the backlight is turned off for more than one second and then the device
does that what it should do.

all this sounds bad, but it is nothing serious. i know that a lot of tosa users
use this rom, so it has to be good. and be sure that i will give it another try,
maybe using a different wm than matchbox.

pros: great, active community and communication. very nice rom with all the
advantages of X application. the idea of running the same wm on my linux box
(kde) and my zaurus is somehow cool.
cons: see above. maybe the speed of the tosa (and the rom) is not sufficient
enough to run big applications like kde.


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OPENZAURUS
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oz was the reason getting me a linux pda instead of a pocket pc. i owned a
collie running hentges rom and everything was fine, ii was also running
sharp applications under opie with compat libs.

pros: very structured development with higher aims (i dont know if this is
a really pro in view of the users). upcoming kernel 2.6, but unfortunately
the tosa device does not play a main role for natural reasons.
ability to run a lot of applications, those of the sharprom world with opie
and compat libs and also X applications with gpe. the dual boot idea is
also very good.

cons: there are some bugs in oz 3.5.4 rc1, which hold me back on jumping on
this train, in the first place the line drawing bug, sound problems with opie,
missing keys. the bad thing in my opinion is that all the mentioned bugs are
not new and are well known from previous releases.
i dislike the feed structure of oz. net, network, networking, this confuses me,
a directory named e and a lot of ones with only one package, hundreds of
"locales". maybe it doesnt matter for those who use ipkg from the console,
but if you want to use the package manager it matters..


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GUYLHEMROM
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a kind of "one man show". i tried it in the beginning and had the feeling
that this rom was more or less a personal nand backup, a kind of snapshot.
i also tried the fast kernel thing getting me crazy as the "f" key turned
the light on and off. natural consequence: i avoided this rom for months.
now i tried rc4 and i was suprised. i like the boot screen (no confusing
warnings as before). a lot of things changed.

pros: the exact battery applet, nice fonts. the idea of getting the existing
rom more usable. guylhem used nicer fonts, why not use nicer icons?

cons: i removed a lot of applications and installed some others, but i was
not able to remove the corresponding icons or to move them between
the categories with the help of the launcher. restarting opie and rebooting
didnt changed anything except the touchscreen was not responding (maybe i
removed the wrong applications).
DrWowe
I switch between pdaXrom (the newest beta version works well for me) and Sharp ROM, although I've heavily customized the Sharp ROM. I've been experimenting with Guylhem kernel, by default he changes all the keymappings but you can change it back by recompiling. As soon as I get that finished, do you want me to post it? It should just be a few days if all goes well.

I acquired a C760 recently and I've been playing with Cacko ROM. It's very very nice, it's what Sharp ROM should be. I'm thinking about combining that with Guyhelm kernel and seeing if I can make a Cacko-6000 ROM. I'll post back if I get that going.
loc4me
QUOTE(DrWowe @ Jan 3 2006, 09:11 AM)
I switch between pdaXrom (the newest beta version works well for me) and Sharp ROM, although I've heavily customized the Sharp ROM.  I've been experimenting with Guylhem kernel, by default he changes all the keymappings but you can change it back by recompiling.  As soon as I get that finished, do you want me to post it?  It should just be a few days if all goes well.

I acquired a C760 recently and I've been playing with Cacko ROM.  It's very very nice, it's what Sharp ROM should be.  I'm thinking about combining that with Guyhelm kernel and seeing if I can make a Cacko-6000 ROM.  I'll post back if I get that going.
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I would also be very interested in tyring the rom you have customized for yourself. If you have time combining best of Cacko and Guylhem's ROM would make a really nice combo.

You say that he changes all the keymappings by default and you can change back if you recompile the kernel. Why would you want to change back? the Guylhem rom is the only one i have had working with all the keyboard "out of the box" with out hacking it. What advantage do you see in going back to the "default" keymapping. I know you have been able to make your own keymappings using the keycode.tbl file, is that the reason you would go back?

Thanks
lardman
QUOTE
cons: there are some bugs in oz 3.5.4 rc1, which hold me back on jumping on
this train, in the first place the line drawing bug, sound problems with opie,
missing keys. the bad thing in my opinion is that all the mentioned bugs are
not new and are well known from previous releases.


I know about the (orange?) line bug which is a kernel issue afaiu, this requires people to investigate and fix it. There aren't many people with 6ks so this takes time I'm afraid.

Although you say they are well known, are these other bugs - sound with opie, keys, etc. in the bugtracker?


Si
speculatrix
as I understood it, Guylhem ROM for 6000 was a work in progress with Guylhem replacing components of Sharp ROM with new things as and when he had time... bits of Cacko are already there.

Whilst Guylhem has done some sterling work in fixing the Sharp bodges and making a clean install, it's a long way off being Cacko for the 6000 as yet,

When I got my 860, I tried Sharp rom only briefly, went straight to Cacko 1.22 (trying thin and fat), and are now v happy with 1.23 fat. Anton truly did a remarkable job, not just in putting together a complete package, but also in back-porting kernel components after 2.4.18 back into the sharp kernel. I don't know where he gets the time!

I think if Guylhem had the time, the G-ROM would be catching up with Cacko...

I donated to Cacko, to Guylhem, and would happily donate to Dr Wowe if he came up with Cacko-6000. I am also hopeful that the bounty for accelerated video for the 6000 will help too.

Paul
malik
@drwowe> sure, i am very interested in the guylhem kernel with or
without the different keyboard supports. the cacko/guylhem synergy
sounds also well but may be harder to realize. thanx in advance.

@lardman> concerning the other mentioned bugs i had an older thread
and a comment of mickey in mind, see oz 3.5.3 bug list, post #14:

http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=12076

at this point i think that i have to check whether my oz/upgrades feed
is not an old one. thanx:-) the sound problem only appeared in
opieplayer2, not in gpe. i installed mplayer from the oz feed, but if
i remember right it had similiar problems and was much too slow. trying
out a mplayer binary from my sd card (from a sharp rom installation) let
me forgot about this bug, it had no sound problems and was much faster.

but you are right, reporting bugs should be much better. the line
drawing bug was reported at the end of november! oz 3.5.3 was
announced in april...
lardman
QUOTE
the sound problem only appeared in
opieplayer2


What is the problem with it? Not that it plays too fast by chance? If so, this is generic for PXA machines and is caused by the conf file having one missing setting in it. Do a search for 'opiexine' and alter the conf file accordingly.

QUOTE
the line
drawing bug was reported at the end of november! oz 3.5.3 was
announced in april...


I have actually seen some posts about this bug, but as only one person was working on it (iirc), progress will be slow unless others want to help out.


Si
Zal42
I've tried each of the ROMs for the 6000, and have settled on the OZ release candidate, despite the remaining problems. The others, outside of the Sharp ROM, have several problems which are showstoppers for me.

In OZ, the orange line problem is largely gone -- you still see one every so often, but only briefly. The missing keys and problems with authenticated SMTP remain the biggest problems for me, but I can live with them for now. I haven't noticed any sound problems, though (unless it's the double-speed in opieplayer thing, which is easy to fix, and I use XMMS anyway).

In the near future, I'm going to get a development platform set up. Perhaps I can help with some of the OZ kernel problems (my favorite programming is low-level programming).

My second choice would be Guylhem, although the problem with using the on/off button is a big enough deal for me that I ditched it as soon as OZ RC1 came out.
jbruno
I use pdaXrom, rc12 version.

AFAIK, the only thing that doesn't work is alarm while suspended, but I think the recent version that just came out may fix that.

I get to use Firefox and have a complete dev cramfs from the pdaXrom feeds.

I tried the others, but have no plans to go back now that I have pdaXrom.
DrWowe
QUOTE(DrWowe @ Jan 3 2006, 08:11 AM)
I'm thinking about combining that with Guyhelm kernel and seeing if I can make a Cacko-6000 ROM.  I'll post back if I get that going.
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Just an update here. I've been working on this a bit for the past few days and it's working. I've got Cacko on the 6000. smile.gif smile.gif

Not everything is working yet and there are bugs, but I'm hopeful I can get them worked out and make a release eventually.

Any ideas for what I should call it? I'm thinking "CG-6000 ROM" to acknowlege Cacko and Guylhem.
loc4me
QUOTE(DrWowe @ Jan 4 2006, 11:00 PM)
QUOTE(DrWowe @ Jan 3 2006, 08:11 AM)
I'm thinking about combining that with Guyhelm kernel and seeing if I can make a Cacko-6000 ROM.  I'll post back if I get that going.
*


Just an update here. I've been working on this a bit for the past few days and it's working. I've got Cacko on the 6000. smile.gif smile.gif

Not everything is working yet and there are bugs, but I'm hopeful I can get them worked out and make a release eventually.

Any ideas for what I should call it? I'm thinking "CG-6000 ROM" to acknowlege Cacko and Guylhem.
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That would be really great. I have always thought that the cacko rom for the 6000 would make it the best hand held. The only thing that would be different is that Kino would not be as good since video acceleration is not working at the moment.

I have no idea for the name. CG6000 Rom is better than anything i have attempted to put together. Let us know if you would like to recieve some donations to help with the porting progress. Thanks
speculatrix
QUOTE(DrWowe @ Jan 3 2006, 08:11 AM)
Any ideas for what I should call it?  I'm thinking "CG-6000 ROM" to acknowlege Cacko and Guylhem.
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this is fabulous news! If it weren't for the experiments to implant bluetooth into the 6000 and add flash and ram, I would be selling my 6000 and 860 now to buy a 3100. I too would like to offer beer tokens to encourage you. When (to be positive) accelerated video comes along, the 6000 will suddenly realise its full potential!

QUOTE(loc4me)
QUOTE

I have no idea for the name. CG6000 Rom is better than anything i have attempted to put together.
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I have no idea for the name. CG6000 Rom is better than anything i have attempted to put together.


thinking out loud...a bit of name mangling...
Guylko? Cackhem?
Cackaznur? or Azko (to use Guylhem's surname).
malik
QUOTE(DrWowe @ Jan 5 2006, 04:00 AM)
Just an update here.  I've been working on this a bit for the past few days and it's working.  I've got Cacko on the 6000.  smile.gif  smile.gif

Not everything is working yet and there are bugs, but I'm hopeful I can get them worked out and make a release eventually.

Any ideas for what I should call it?  I'm thinking "CG-6000 ROM" to acknowlege Cacko and Guylhem.
*


this sounds great. though the name should be secondary CG is ambiguous
on this device --> "CG Silicon"... i am ready to test anything you upload;-)

@lardman> i guess you are right, its a speed issue of the opieplayer and can be fixed
easily...
LeTic
I agree with Malik, maybe you could agree with the Cacko Rom guys to be considered as an official SL 6000 Port so you can use their name wink.gif

If you need beta-tester do not hesitate ! smile.gif


Concerning the opie-player issue the speed problem is indeed easily fixe by uncommenting a line in the opiexine.cf file see here http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showt...998&hl=opiexine
xjqian
Looking forward to the Guylhem + Cacko.
johnw
I would love a better ROM than the Sharp ROM, and the Guyhelm-Cacko sounds like it might be good. I hope its finished soon. :-)
speculatrix
any news on CG6000 rom?
eji
I've actually been relatively content with the Sharp ROM -- relatively, I mean, compared to what else is on offer. Anything that involves extensive terminal tweaking after flash is enough to put me off changing: maybe because I'm lazy, maybe because I'm stupid, or maybe because "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" seems like pretty a good philosophy for something I use every day for writing, e-mailing, PIM and listening to music. I really can't afford to have it in some half-finished beta state.

For all intents and purposes, the Qtopia/Sharp ROM is polished and stable, if not exactly feature-rich. I personally would rather see enhancements to it instead of a slew of whole new projects, but that might only be because I have no coding skills whatsoever and an aversion to heavy-duty tinkering (which I'd say goes beyond the definition of tinkering).

One thing I can't understand is, why can't we find a 6000W ROM and extract the Bluetooth software modules from there? (I think guylhem's got one already.) That way, the 6000 would have native BT support and we could be ahead of other models in at least one software category.
adf
any imporvements on oz on the 6k?
koen
QUOTE(adf @ Feb 24 2006, 01:16 AM)
any imporvements on oz on the 6k?
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IIRC working keymaps and working suspend/resume.
coolass
Is there any other Rom for the sl-6000 that will allow me to use WIFI connections without a command line script ? I can't wait until DrWowe's CG6000 rom is out to breath new life into my 6k...
koen
QUOTE(coolass @ Mar 3 2006, 07:19 PM)
Is there any other Rom for the sl-6000 that will allow me to use WIFI connections without a command line script ? I can't wait until DrWowe's CG6000 rom is out to breath new life into my 6k...
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A ROM, no, but you can use either gpe or opie with openzaurus to use wifi with gui tools.
adf
QUOTE(koen @ Mar 3 2006, 08:27 PM)
QUOTE(coolass @ Mar 3 2006, 07:19 PM)
Is there any other Rom for the sl-6000 that will allow me to use WIFI connections without a command line script ? I can't wait until DrWowe's CG6000 rom is out to breath new life into my 6k...
*


A ROM, no, but you can use either gpe or opie with openzaurus to use wifi with gui tools.
*


Does OZ still display yellow/orange "interference" lines on the 6k? That was kind of a problem last time I checked. I don't mean to belabor it, though. It would be a nice 6k system if that had been fixed.
ken
QUOTE(eji @ Feb 22 2006, 09:51 PM)
One thing I can't understand is, why can't we find a 6000W ROM and extract the Bluetooth software modules from there? (I think guylhem's got one already.) That way, the 6000 would have native BT support and we could be ahead of other models in at least one software category.
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I'm satisfied with the Sharp ROM too. It would have been nice to try guylhem's rom, but I think it's more on the dead than alive side. He does good work, but I have the feeling to get it to the point of being released will take a while more, perhaps 6 months to a year down the line. His last work was in October, which would make it about 6 months since any work was done on it.
koen
QUOTE(adf @ Mar 6 2006, 07:51 AM)
QUOTE(koen @ Mar 3 2006, 08:27 PM)
QUOTE(coolass @ Mar 3 2006, 07:19 PM)
Is there any other Rom for the sl-6000 that will allow me to use WIFI connections without a command line script ? I can't wait until DrWowe's CG6000 rom is out to breath new life into my 6k...
*


A ROM, no, but you can use either gpe or opie with openzaurus to use wifi with gui tools.
*


Does OZ still display yellow/orange "interference" lines on the 6k? That was kind of a problem last time I checked. I don't mean to belabor it, though. It would be a nice 6k system if that had been fixed.
*



That has been fixed a while ago. 2.6 is running very, very well smile.gif
trichmon
Does OZ support wake on alarms yet? I mean does it have a working calendar system in either gpe or opie? Thats one of the big reasons i have not given it a long test.


Todd
nevarrie
I am starting to play with running pdaxrom with enlightenment17.



I currently have USB networking so that I can uses x11vnc to control the 6k while it is in the cradle.

KOPI has imported my ics file so I have access to my currect calender. The lack of Pi-sync bothers me a little both as of e17 ont he z I so far find it very nice and responsive.

The screen rotate button int he ibar works great. I was not able to get matchbox to rotate the 6k(at least I coudl nto find how).

The escreenshow module does not work.

Teh battery meter shows 100, 75, 50 , 25 but also show how many minutes it believe I still have left. I am not sure how accurate it issince I have nto been timing it.

Suspend works from teh power button. Every time so far this weekend it has returned without a problem but I currently have everythign installed locally and not on a cf or sd card.

I am currently still trying to get Wifi working.

I hope to get wifi working in the next couple of days.

Just though I would put inthat info about using pdaxrom on the 6k...
adf
QUOTE(koen @ Mar 6 2006, 09:25 AM)
QUOTE(adf @ Mar 6 2006, 07:51 AM)
QUOTE(koen @ Mar 3 2006, 08:27 PM)
QUOTE(coolass @ Mar 3 2006, 07:19 PM)
Is there any other Rom for the sl-6000 that will allow me to use WIFI connections without a command line script ? I can't wait until DrWowe's CG6000 rom is out to breath new life into my 6k...
*


A ROM, no, but you can use either gpe or opie with openzaurus to use wifi with gui tools.
*


Does OZ still display yellow/orange "interference" lines on the 6k? That was kind of a problem last time I checked. I don't mean to belabor it, though. It would be a nice 6k system if that had been fixed.
*



That has been fixed a while ago. 2.6 is running very, very well smile.gif
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Then maybe it is time for another look at gpe smile.gif
Hrw
nevarie: try wlan-ng 0.2.1-pre26 - they should work (we use them in OpenZaurus 3.5.4). 0.2.2 will NOT work.
egg8178
Nevarrie,
It would be really nice if you could share your experience in using pdaxrom on the 6k, esp the wifi part, thank you, and i understand that we can actually dual boot the pdaxrom from sd so to keep the stock in internal flash?

can someone point out the + and - of doing so?

p/s: it's really been quiet around here (6k) and i really envy all the attention others (3k, 1k) have.. unsure.gif

QUOTE(nevarrie @ Mar 6 2006, 01:35 PM)
I am starting to play with running pdaxrom with enlightenment17.



I currently have USB networking so that I can uses x11vnc to control the 6k while it is in the cradle. 

KOPI has imported my ics file so I have access to my currect calender.  The lack of Pi-sync bothers me a little both as of e17 ont he z I so far find it very nice and responsive. 

The screen rotate button int he ibar works great.  I was not able to get matchbox to rotate the 6k(at least I coudl nto find how).

The escreenshow module does not work.

Teh battery meter shows 100, 75, 50 , 25 but also show how many minutes it believe I still have left.  I am not sure how accurate it issince I have nto been timing it.

Suspend works from teh power button.  Every time so far this weekend it has returned without a problem but I currently have everythign installed locally and not on a cf or sd card.

I am currently still trying to get Wifi working.

I hope to get wifi working in the next couple of days.

Just though I would put inthat info about using pdaxrom on the 6k...
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enlightened_j
e17 on Zaurus 6000 looks pretty sweet!!

I got my Zaurus back in 2004. I used OpenZaurus for about a year until one day that I decided that the orange line really annoys me and switched to PDAX rom.

I run PDAX rom as my daily rom now. I primarily uses fluxbox, Firefox, Minimo (scaled down version of FireFox) , AbiWord, mplayer, xmms, and qbedict.
Here are some of my experiences from PDAX rom.

Firefox: Takes roughly a minute to load, once loaded it works great.

Minimo: Runs great, tries to render everything so that you don't have to scroll horizontally. But its effort sometimes actually screws up the page. It's kind of buggy.

Abiword: I use it to take notes when I am reading.

Qbedict: I use it to look up words I don't know when I am reading. It's usually run in conjunction with Abiword in different "workspace" of Fluxbox.

mplayer: I used mplayer to watch re-encoded xvid movies when I need to take flights. No complains here. I also use it to play online streamed NPR.

xmms: Works great.

I pretty much use PDAXrom as a scale down version of Linux PC and NOT a pda. This factor alone makes the transition to PDAXrom worth it. The only draw back I have with PDAX rom is that there's not much development for Zaurus 6000. I personally wish I have more time to do some development on it, but just don't have time.
eji
QUOTE(enlightened_j @ May 16 2006, 10:15 PM)
e17 on Zaurus 6000 looks pretty sweet!!

[...]

I run PDAX rom as my daily rom now.
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How's the overall speed of pdaxrom compared to a ROM like Sharp or OZ?

Can you play movies fullscreen using mplayer in pdaxrom, or does it suffer from the same video acceleration issues as the other ROMs?

Is there any good PIM software, or does the K/Pi suite work just as well?

What's the deal with WiFi and Bluetooth? Is the reconition of the 6000's built-in WiFi flaky? Is Bluetooth working as good as or better than the Sharp-based ROMs?

I'd really appreciate it if you could answer all those. I'm dying to ditch the Sharp ROM for something as beautiful as E17, but stability, speed and hardware integration have kept me from pdaxrom so far.
nevarrie
QUOTE(egg8178 @ Mar 6 2006, 10:25 PM)
Nevarrie,
It would be really nice if you could share your experience in using pdaxrom on the 6k, esp the wifi part, thank you, and i understand that we can actually dual boot the pdaxrom from sd so to keep the stock in internal flash?

can someone point out the + and - of doing so?

p/s: it's really been quiet around here (6k) and i really envy all the attention others (3k, 1k) have..  unsure.gif

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I am sorry that I did not see your post till today. After finding that pisync and screen where not included on pdaxrom I decided to see what programs would do the things I wanted my Z to do(As a PDA). I finally gave up about a month ago on making my Z work as a PDA that will sync easily with my exchange server at work. I really only used pdaxrom for a few weeks with e17. It ran great but I could not figure out how to sync it with my exchange calender and I could nto get my targus IR keyboard to work. I never had a problem with wifi other then I it does nto ahve a gui for bringing wifi up and down or choosing profiles but aterm and vim worked for me.

In the last month I have went back to flashing between pdaxrom 1.1.0beta1, OpenZaurus e17 with 2.6 kernel, OpenZaurus GPE with 2.6 kernel and angstrom.

I have not tried booting pdaxrom off of my sd card, probly should so I am not reflashing every other day.

I am currently flashed back to using pdaxrom with e17 again so I can work on writing a gui for the wifi that will work as an e17 module. So we will see what comes out of that.
enlightened_j
QUOTE(eji @ May 17 2006, 05:37 AM)
How's the overall speed of pdaxrom compared to a ROM like Sharp or OZ?

Can you play movies fullscreen using mplayer in pdaxrom, or does it suffer from the same video acceleration issues as the other ROMs?

Is there any good PIM software, or does the K/Pi suite work just as well?

What's the deal with WiFi and Bluetooth? Is the reconition of the 6000's built-in WiFi flaky? Is Bluetooth working as good as or better than the Sharp-based ROMs?

I'd really appreciate it if you could answer all those. I'm dying to ditch the Sharp ROM for something as beautiful as E17, but stability, speed and hardware integration have kept me from pdaxrom so far.
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I am no sure what was the acceleration issues in other ROMS. My experience with Open Zaurus and PDAX ROM is that if a movie is re-encoded to 320x240 with 15 fps, it can be play full screen without dropping any frame and audio/video out of sync. There is a program I found in OESF forum that I use to re-encode my XVID movies for Zaurus. I can lookup the name of program later tonight when I get home.

I have the PIM software installed, but never really used it much. So I can't really help you on that.

Wifi works ok, but I use a script instead of the GUI. I couldn't get the Wifi GUI to work. My Zaurus is without Bluetooth; can't give you any pointer on that.

I forget to mention few other programs I use frequently on PDAX rom in my last post:

GAIM: I consistently log onto msn and yahoo messenger to take a look on who's online. Witout an external keyboard, it's hard to carry out conversations on Zaurus.

KPHONE: I use KPHONE to dial toll free number for internation calling cards during the day when my cell phone minutes are low. Some phone card does not recognize the DTMF send by KPHONE, overall experience is still positive though. Voice call through SIP woks decently well.

xvncview and server: I find xvncviewer less useful when connect to a Windows vnc server, but it works well with Linux vnc server if you set the resolution usable for Zaurus. xvnc server works pretty well. I use it pretty often when I am at home on my real computer.

xpdf: I rarely use it unless, but the times I used it to read pdf e-books, it works fine.

Here is my conclusion for PDAX rom:

I think it's a pretty decent ROM. It requires some tweaking and getting use to when first used. I think the first thing you need to do AFTER installing PDAX rom is to get the libstdc++ library. I am not sure if it's the case anymore.

I love the customisibility and versatility it gives me at the expense of some learning curve. If you have some experience with desktop Linux I would highly recommend giving PDAX rom a try if and only if you have some free time.
trichmon
QUOTE(enlightened_j @ May 17 2006, 01:51 PM)
QUOTE(eji @ May 17 2006, 05:37 AM)
How's the overall speed of pdaxrom compared to a ROM like Sharp or OZ?

Can you play movies fullscreen using mplayer in pdaxrom, or does it suffer from the same video acceleration issues as the other ROMs?

Is there any good PIM software, or does the K/Pi suite work just as well?

What's the deal with WiFi and Bluetooth? Is the reconition of the 6000's built-in WiFi flaky? Is Bluetooth working as good as or better than the Sharp-based ROMs?

I'd really appreciate it if you could answer all those. I'm dying to ditch the Sharp ROM for something as beautiful as E17, but stability, speed and hardware integration have kept me from pdaxrom so far.
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I am no sure what was the acceleration issues in other ROMS. My experience with Open Zaurus and PDAX ROM is that if a movie is re-encoded to 320x240 with 15 fps, it can be play full screen without dropping any frame and audio/video out of sync. There is a program I found in OESF forum that I use to re-encode my XVID movies for Zaurus. I can lookup the name of program later tonight when I get home.

I have the PIM software installed, but never really used it much. So I can't really help you on that.

Wifi works ok, but I use a script instead of the GUI. I couldn't get the Wifi GUI to work. My Zaurus is without Bluetooth; can't give you any pointer on that.

I forget to mention few other programs I use frequently on PDAX rom in my last post:

GAIM: I consistently log onto msn and yahoo messenger to take a look on who's online. Witout an external keyboard, it's hard to carry out conversations on Zaurus.

KPHONE: I use KPHONE to dial toll free number for internation calling cards during the day when my cell phone minutes are low. Some phone card does not recognize the DTMF send by KPHONE, overall experience is still positive though. Voice call through SIP woks decently well.

xvncview and server: I find xvncviewer less useful when connect to a Windows vnc server, but it works well with Linux vnc server if you set the resolution usable for Zaurus. xvnc server works pretty well. I use it pretty often when I am at home on my real computer.

xpdf: I rarely use it unless, but the times I used it to read pdf e-books, it works fine.

Here is my conclusion for PDAX rom:

I think it's a pretty decent ROM. It requires some tweaking and getting use to when first used. I think the first thing you need to do AFTER installing PDAX rom is to get the libstdc++ library. I am not sure if it's the case anymore.

I love the customisibility and versatility it gives me at the expense of some learning curve. If you have some experience with desktop Linux I would highly recommend giving PDAX rom a try if and only if you have some free time.
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I see you mentioned watching video on your 6000 in pdaxrom. Would you mind explaining your setup. I have done that with success on the sharp rom but I cant seem to get much to work on the pdaxrom side.

Thanks
Todd
enlightened_j
QUOTE(trichmon @ May 19 2006, 06:34 AM)
I see you mentioned watching video on your 6000 in pdaxrom.  Would you mind explaining your setup.  I have done that with success on the sharp rom but I cant seem to get much to work on the pdaxrom side. 

Thanks
Todd
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There is a post pin on top of the forum. Igot all my info from that thread.
Please check that thread.
trichmon
Its been awhile since this thread was started and all of the projects (OZ, pdaxrom, etc) have come a long way. I would be interested to hear what other people are using as a day to day work rom right now?

Todd
adf
QUOTE(trichmon @ Jun 13 2006, 10:26 PM)
Its been awhile since this thread was started and all of the projects (OZ, pdaxrom, etc) have come a long way.  I would be interested to hear what other people are using as a day to day work rom right now?

Todd
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Right now, pdaxrom 1.1beta1 (stable?). I was hoping to do a guylhem pdaxqtrom combo, but guylhem's rom seems not likely to apper very soon. I think it might end up a tetsuized sharprom/pdaxqt running kino, shoutcastplayer, netfront and, of course, firefox. (as well as the standard rom and pdaxqt stuff)
trichmon
adf,

Im currently using the tetsu kernel that you pointed me to. smile.gif i like it. Im running the battery aplet from guylhems page. Im also running the pdaxqt from sd. The setup is fairly good. The pdaxqt works great for smaller apps but apps like firefox are very slow (vs normal pdaxrom) even with the system overclocked to the max. I have thought about going the other way and running qt stuff on pdaxrom but im not sure how well that will work and right now im stuck needing something that will sync with either evolution or outlook.
malik
thanx for the discussion on the tetsu kernel :-) it works very well. i have a question:

i also downloaded the battery applet from guylhems page and added the file freqchange.conf to ~/Settings, so i can over(under)clock the cpu. but i missed the detailed battery feedback from the applet in 1% steps which was present in guylhem rom. whats the point: differences to tetsus kernel or do i have to install tetsu kernel modules or do i have the wrong applet package or ???

thanx in advance, malik
trichmon
I have noticed that as well. Im not sure what the fix is. I would install the modules ipk from tetsu page. It fixed a problem for me ( i just cant remember what ).

Todd
malik
QUOTE(trichmon @ Jun 19 2006, 03:12 PM)
I have noticed that as well.  Im not sure what the fix is.  I would install the modules ipk from tetsu page.  It fixed a problem for me ( i just cant remember what ).

Todd
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does this mean that you fixed this problem? i installed the modules ipk but it changed nothing. please try to remember, try hypnosis or whatever, i need it wink.gif thanx in advance...

malik
malik
according to the table at the end of tetsu's homepage there is no detailed battery feedback from the testu kernel for the tosa. this confuses me a little bit...
adf
[atm I'm running sharp/tetsu/pocketworkstation with fbvnc and keypebble. I need to ioad a better baattery app 8guuylhem's) and see. I think I might switch to pdaxqt.... I''m mainly interested in firefox plugins- lke java.

glad the tetsu/shap thing is gaining ground. I wish,though, that the OZ folks would get a decent working mutli network capable network applet for the 6k
ken
QUOTE(adf @ Jul 9 2006, 11:27 PM)
[atm I'm running sharp/tetsu/pocketworkstation with fbvnc and keypebble.  I need to ioad a better baattery app 8guuylhem's) and see.  I think I might switch to pdaxqt....  I''m mainly interested in firefox plugins- lke java.


Sounds like you're like eji and I, who are mostly satisfied with the Sharp ROM. Is there a page that shows the sharp/tetsu/powerworkstation thingie? From what I'm gathering, it's mostly sharp but some tweaks here and there?
adf
kernel upgrade from tetsu tesu.homelinux.org
modules to go with that kernel

self contained X environment running fro sd card...sharprom as main system.
best bet here is probably meanie"s pdaxqt rom.

a nice ssetup; really
xjqian
I flashed to pdaXrom 1.1.0beta1 today. However, startx only gives me three xterm w/o scroll bar, not to mention it does not fit the screen and key mapping is not complete, etc... Is this what supposed to be? Do I have to configure from scratch while other models have a nice default graphical rom? Am I missing something?
miskinis
QUOTE(xjqian @ Aug 7 2006, 04:24 AM)
I flashed to pdaXrom 1.1.0beta1 today. However, startx only gives me three xterm w/o scroll bar, not to mention it does not fit the screen and key mapping is not complete, etc...  Is this what supposed to be? Do I have to configure from scratch while other models have a nice default graphical rom? Am I missing something?
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Hi,

Find the topic named something like "tutorial for 6000", and there is a step which
untars a file into root's home directory, which will set things up as a decent starting
point. You will get a desktop with many icons, openbox window manager, and
many matchbox panel apps.

As far as keys, there is another step which mentions a change to
use the tosa.modmap file. I have notes somewhere, but I have still not
found a "decent" no-ad/free web hosting site to put them in a nice organized place... smile.gif
And please, no one suggest bizhat, I'm still mad at that site! smile.gif

John
nevarrie
QUOTE(xjqian @ Aug 7 2006, 02:24 AM)
I flashed to pdaXrom 1.1.0beta1 today. However, startx only gives me three xterm w/o scroll bar, not to mention it does not fit the screen and key mapping is not complete, etc...  Is this what supposed to be? Do I have to configure from scratch while other models have a nice default graphical rom? Am I missing something?
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I uses http://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=How_to_install_pdaXrom to get pdaxrom up and running on my 6k. Then I follow http://gefechtsdienst.de/uman/Zaurus_C-860...etup/index.html so that I can have e17 on my Z when I am running pdaxrom.
xjqian
QUOTE(nevarrie @ Aug 7 2006, 04:59 PM)
I uses http://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=How_to_install_pdaXrom to get pdaxrom up and running on my 6k. 
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Let's go one step a time. I followed the how to and did the tar --no-same-owner -xf /root/.home_default.tar part, but that's where I ended up as described in my previous post.

I did get couple of lines complaining about xauth after startx, but I doubt that's guilty part:
xauth: error in locking authority file /home/root/.Xauthority
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