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pungipungi
I'm wondering which applications do the other users missing most?

For me it's:
- zbedic (wich I plan to port from opie next)
darmou
QUOTE(pungipungi @ Jan 15 2006, 10:43 PM)
I'm wondering which applications do the other users missing most?

For me it's:
- zbedic  (wich I plan to port from opie next)
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For me it's the solitare card game. If you could get the familar game ipatience to complile, that would be great.


The src is at:

http://darmou.freeshell.org/ipatience.tar.bz2


Thanks,


darmou
pungipungi
QUOTE(darmou @ Jan 16 2006, 03:11 PM)
For me it's the solitare card game.  If you could get the familar game ipatience to complile, that would be great.


Take a look at http://members.kabsi.at/woody/zaurus/archives/



andreas
darmou
pungipungi, you're a legend!

Thanks very much,

darmou
pungipungi
QUOTE
For me it's:
- zbedic (wich I plan to port from opie next)

Seems that I can fullfill my wish myself.
(very simple attempt, but has worked for eng-ger, ger-eng and wiki .dz files)
see

darmou
Is there a version of xmms or mplayer that does not need opie?

darmou
lardman
Not xmms, but an x11 version of mplayer can be built (I use it). Not sure where you can download it mind you (as I'm not at work and can't put the files up for download atm). Anyone?


Si
pungipungi
QUOTE(darmou @ Jan 28 2006, 10:39 AM)
Is there a version of xmms or mplayer that does not need opie?

darmou
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After having troubles with gpe-nmf I did a lot of changes and playing music does work now for me. Added the changes as bug to openembedded but didn't get any response yet.
pungipungi
QUOTE(lardman @ Jan 29 2006, 01:05 PM)
Not xmms, but an x11 version of mplayer can be built (I use it). Not sure where you can download it mind you (as I'm not at work and can't put the files up for download atm). Anyone?
Si
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Does video work correct ?
How does the x11 interface look on a small display?
grog
QUOTE(lardman @ Jan 29 2006, 06:05 AM)
Not xmms, but an x11 version of mplayer can be built (I use it). Not sure where you can download it mind you (as I'm not at work and can't put the files up for download atm). Anyone?
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Please. I'd welcome it. thks
pungipungi
As guitar player I often want to take my tabulatures with me. I own guitar-pro which is a low cost but very fine application (also running under wine). From there I got the idea to take my favorite songs to the zaurus. Guitar-pro can store the songs as bitmaps which can be viewed by an adapted gallery version:
- instead of slide show - automatic down scrolling
- scrolling control by a very simple config to ensure proper timings and allow jumps (for repeating, ...)
- adapted view window to show songs and song information
- reading song informations (writer, timings) from a song's config

Here's a quick view (Bach's: air on G string).
I've added my actual song list for trial to the archive ....

iamasmith
QUOTE(pungipungi @ Feb 11 2006, 10:45 PM)
As guitar player I often want to take my tabulatures with me. I own guitar-pro which is a low cost but very fine application (also running under wine). From there I got the idea to take my favorite songs to the zaurus. Guitar-pro can store the songs as bitmaps which can be viewed by an adapted gallery version:
- instead of slide show - automatic down scrolling
- scrolling control by a very simple config to ensure proper timings and allow jumps (for repeating, ...)
- adapted view window to show songs and song information
- reading song informations (writer, timings) from a song's config

Here's a quick view (Bach's: air on G string).
I've added my actual song list for trial to the archive ....


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Hmm, it would be so cool if someone produced a powertab player for Linux... there is a powertab tools archive which has a powertab decode library in it I believe... the project is more aimed at taking powertab files into Lilypond though.

- Andy
darmou
According to this web site:

http://www.southern-storm.com.au/portable_net.html

Portable.net compiles for the Zaurus but I can't find any compiled ipks.

someone compiled them for familiar:

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/dotgnu-p...3/msg00013.html

But those ipk's are not there anymore.

darmou
grog
QUOTE(grog @ Feb 9 2006, 02:59 PM)
QUOTE(lardman @ Jan 29 2006, 06:05 AM)
Not xmms, but an x11 version of mplayer can be built (I use it). Not sure where you can download it mind you (as I'm not at work and can't put the files up for download atm). Anyone?
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Please. I'd welcome it. thks
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How good would this version from ipkgfind be?
pungipungi
I've started to build mplayer as provided by bb. Then can see what has to be done to add X11 ,,,

andreas
darmou
How good would this version from ipkgfind be?
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I've got gpe-nmf from koens feed along with a whole heap of cool stuff:

src/gz koen http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/sfeed

warning, gpe-nmf seems to be very unstable and crashes frequently.

I managed to get mplayer working just by adding the opie feed and ipkg install -d sd mplayer

darmou
pungipungi
QUOTE(darmou @ Feb 12 2006, 01:38 PM)
warning, gpe-nmf seems to be very unstable and crashes frequently.


Maybe you can try the binary from my side where I did a lot of corrections.
(I don't know why but for me only OSSINK works and not the default sink wj8ich may change the bahaviour, but would be interested what's the result there)
Andreas
darmou
QUOTE(pungipungi @ Feb 12 2006, 09:59 PM)
QUOTE(darmou @ Feb 12 2006, 01:38 PM)
warning, gpe-nmf seems to be very unstable and crashes frequently.


Maybe you can try the binary from my side where I did a lot of corrections.
(I don't know why but for me only OSSINK works and not the default sink wj8ich may change the bahaviour, but would be interested what's the result there)
Andreas
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I tried your version, it segfaults every time I try to add something to the play list sigh sad.gif

It might be the libraries I'm using.

Here is the console output:

collie:/media/card/home/root> # ./gpe-nmf

(gpe-nmf:21716): Gdk-WARNING **: gdk_property_get(): length value has wrapped in calculation (did you pass G_MAXLONG?)

(gpe-nmf:21716): Gdk-WARNING **: gdk_property_get(): length value has wrapped in calculation (did you pass G_MAXLONG?)

(gpe-nmf:21716): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_tree_view_get_selection: assertion `GTK_IS_TREE_VIEW (tree_view)' failed

(gpe-nmf:21716): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_tree_selection_get_mode: assertion `GTK_IS_TREE_SELECTION (selection)' failed

(gpe-nmf:21716): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_tree_selection_set_mode: assertion `GTK_IS_TREE_SELECTION (selection)' failed

(gpe-nmf:21716): Gdk-WARNING **: gdk_property_get(): length value has wrapped in calculation (did you pass G_MAXLONG?)

(gpe-nmf:21716): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_entry_set_text: assertion `text != NULL' failed

(gpe-nmf:21716): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_entry_set_text: assertion `text != NULL' failed
*** glibc detected *** ./gpe-nmf: free(): invalid pointer: 0x0015e0c0 ***
Aborted

darmou
pungipungi
QUOTE
I tried your version, it segfaults every time I try to add something to the play list sigh sad.gif


You're right.
Should be corrected now.
Please do also download libgpenmf.so.0 ...

andreas
grog
pungipungi, I haven't tried your binary on my poodle, but with the one from the test5 feed all I'm getting is a message box saying "unable to start playback". Here's all the output when started from the command line:

CODE
(gpe-nmf:6729): Gdk-WARNING **: gdk_property_get(): length value has wrapped in calculation (did you pass G_MAXLONG?)

(gpe-nmf:6729): Gdk-WARNING **: gdk_property_get(): length value has wrapped in calculation (did you pass G_MAXLONG?)

(gpe-nmf:6729): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_tree_view_get_selection: assertion `GTK_IS_TREE_VIEW (tree_view)' failed

(gpe-nmf:6729): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_tree_selection_get_mode: assertion `GTK_IS_TREE_SELECTION (selection)' failed

(gpe-nmf:6729): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_tree_selection_set_mode: assertion `GTK_IS_TREE_SELECTION (selection)' failed

(gpe-nmf:6729): Gdk-WARNING **: gdk_property_get(): length value has wrapped in calculation (did you pass G_MAXLONG?)
player 0x71738: play item 0x14ab80 [/media/cf/Music/KISS_I Was Made For Loving You.mp3]

(gpe-nmf:6729): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_element_get_pad: assertion `element != NULL' failed
Problem creating player element:
Decoder
Volume Control
Audio Output
player 0x71738: play item 0x14ab80 [/media/cf/Music/KISS_I Was Made For Loving You.mp3]

(gpe-nmf:6729): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_element_get_pad: assertion `element != NULL' failed
Problem creating player element:
Decoder
Volume Control
Audio Output

(gpe-nmf:6729): Gdk-WARNING **: gdk_property_get(): length value has wrapped in calculation (did you pass G_MAXLONG?)

I can play all of my mp3's directly using mplayer, so AFAICT it's not mplayer.
thanks for the help.
lardman
QUOTE
I can play all of my mp3's directly using mplayer, so AFAICT it's not mplayer.


It uses gstreamer though, not mplayer (from the output at least).

What does this assertion refer to?

CODE
(gpe-nmf:6729): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_element_get_pad: assertion `element != NULL' failed



Si
grog
QUOTE(lardman @ Mar 1 2006, 06:00 AM)
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I can play all of my mp3's directly using mplayer, so AFAICT it's not mplayer.

It uses gstreamer though, not mplayer (from the output at least).

Good point. I always thought that nmf was an mplayer front end, and didn't know what gstreamer was.

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What does this assertion refer to?

CODE
(gpe-nmf:6729): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_element_get_pad: assertion `element != NULL' failed
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I searched around on the gstreamer homepage, but couldn't find any references to that error.

The only reason I'm fighting with nmf is that I really need some sort of a music player to justify sticking with GPE (and I do want to stay with GPE). Didn't there used to be gxine in the feeds? I don't see it in the test5 feeds. I'm (almost) happy with just using mplayer in a terminal window, except that there doesn't seem to be a way to prevent the Z from sleeping (under the 2.4 kernel, that is).

thks
pungipungi
... uuups I didn't understand what you meant with mplayer ...

Try this first to see if gstreamer works:
CODE
gst-launch filesrc location=/media/cf/Music/KISS_I Was Made For Loving You.mp3 ! mad ! osssink


On my machine only ossink works. god knows why ....
I think default is esdsink for gpe-nmf

If that works than you gpe-nmf should work in principle

if only ossink works then give that a try:
NMF_SINK=osssink gpe-nmf

I would propose to use my binary (the sigsegv which was reported is already fixed ...) and my lib since you get the state of the player like:
CODE
player 0xa0838: play item 0xa3df0 [/home/woody/Documents/Music/Williams, PATRICK_THE STREETS OF SAN FRANCISCO2.mp3]
new thread
set_volume -1 255
player 0xa0838: elt 0x15d858 state 1 -> 2
player 0xa0838: elt 0x15d858 state 2 -> 4
player 0xa0838: elt 0x15d858 state 4 -> 8
ti
Playlist Index : 85
player 0xa0838: elt 0x151f50 state 1 -> 2
player 0xa0838: elt 0x151f50 state 2 -> 4
player 0xa0838: elt 0x151f50 state 4 -> 8
grog
Here's what I get:

CODE
grog:<pts/0>$ gst-launch filesrc location=kiss.mp3 ! mad ! osssink
WARNING: erroneous pipeline: no element "mad"
        Trying to run anyway.
RUNNING pipeline ...
Execution ended after 1 iterations (sum 4753000 ns, average 4753000 ns, min 4753000 ns, max 4753000 ns).

But I decided to try your binary + lib anyway, but no joy:

CODE
grog:<pts/0>$ gpe-nmf
gpe-nmf: error while loading shared libraries: libpangocairo-1.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
papercrane
You could alsp use mpd and gmpc or glurp to play music. I myself use mpd and ncmpc. I also have some shell scripts which I use with mpc to control mpd and also another script that I run when the hinge button is pressed in order to make the bl and all work (in kernel 2.4 with keylaunch, that is).
grog
QUOTE(papercrane @ Mar 2 2006, 03:07 PM)
You could alsp use mpd and gmpc or glurp to play music. I myself use mpd and ncmpc. I also have some shell scripts which I use with mpc to control mpd and also another script that I run when the hinge button is pressed in order to make the bl and all work (in kernel 2.4 with keylaunch, that is).
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I took a look @ MPD. Seems a bit overkill for what I need. I very rarely have network access when listening to music on my Z. I'll keep on working on trying pymp. thks
JohnX
It might be overkill in terms of features, but it's very light on memory and CPU usage. It's fairly painless to setup as well. Need to edit /etc/mpd.conf with some basic settings (alsa or oss, /dir/where/the/music/is, that kind of thing.) The interfaces are a little more stable and usable than the gpe-nmf.

EDIT: I Just looked at pymp. Seems rather intestesting. Maybe I'll try and get that working to. biggrin.gif
grog
QUOTE(JohnX @ Mar 2 2006, 09:18 PM)
It might be overkill in terms of features, but it's very light on memory and CPU usage.  It's fairly painless to setup as well. Need to edit /etc/mpd.conf with some basic settings (alsa or oss, /dir/where/the/music/is,  that kind of thing.) The interfaces are a little more stable and usable than the gpe-nmf.

Where can I get some ipk's for it?

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EDIT: I Just looked at pymp.  Seems rather intestesting. Maybe I'll try and get that working to.  biggrin.gif
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Let me know if you do smile.gif. The only roadblock is that there doesn't seem to be an ipk availabe for python-pygtk. I pm'd mikeyl about it (he maintains the python-pygtk-dev package), but there's been no reply yet.

thks
JohnX
I made and posted ipks a while back, but got little interest. That thread is over here.

I'm pretty sure they should still work with current versions of GPE. If you're building GPE from OE, it would probably be best to compile them yourself to ensure they depend on the right versions of software. If there are any dependency or installation issues respond to that thread and I'll see what I can do about fixing them. Also, mpd needs an /etc/mpd.conf . Documentation on that can be found on the mpd website. If people have questions, posting in my thread about mpd will get the fastest reponse, since I'm subscribed to that thread but not this one.

-John
jerrybme
I would like to see kopi for gpe.
Hrw
jerrybme: I started work on getting kdepimpi X11 build but did not finished it (lack of interest).

http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=371
grog
QUOTE(jerrybme @ Mar 24 2006, 09:29 AM)
I would like to see kopi for gpe.
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I second that, for the whole suite (kapi, kopi, kopi-alarm, etc)
koen
QUOTE(grog @ Mar 24 2006, 03:49 PM)
QUOTE(jerrybme @ Mar 24 2006, 09:29 AM)
I would like to see kopi for gpe.
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I second that, for the whole suite (kapi, kopi, kopi-alarm, etc)
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*point to rules in opening post*

Add it to OE first, then ask again.
jerrybme
QUOTE(Hrw @ Mar 24 2006, 09:40 AM)
jerrybme: I started work on getting kdepimpi X11 build but did not finished it (lack of interest).

http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=371
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Thanks, once I get more acclimated to OZ, I'll give it a whirl

@koen: not sure what you mean by rules in opening post (didn't see any "rules" in the first post of this thread), nor how to add it to OE. I went to the OE bug tracking system, but that seems to be for bugs, obviously...

I little more guidance would be appreciated. tongue.gif

Cheers,

Jerry
Hrw
jerrybme: koen said about '3.5.4.x upgrades' thread which is correct place for upgrades stuff requests (but kdepimpi/x11 is not upgrade - it is unavailable stuff).

and bugtracker is also for sending misc new stuff - I do not use X11 on Z but maintain kdepimpi for Qt/e enviroments (currently OPIE only). I started work on kdepimpi/x11 but lacked time to finish it so added it into bugtracker so someone could finish work on it.
dolcex
Are there any plans to continue with the port of kdepim to OZ/GPE? Gpe-calendar doesn't cut it for me (and probably not for lots of other people).

On a slightly unrelated note, is Opie being actively developed/maintained? The web site is quite outdated.
pungipungi
QUOTE(iamasmith @ Feb 12 2006, 01:16 AM)
Hmm, it would be so cool if someone produced a powertab player for Linux... there is a powertab tools archive which has a powertab decode library in it I believe... the project is more aimed at taking powertab files into Lilypond though.

- Andy
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Unfortunatly the powertab decoder decodes only but the real effort lies in the graphic output of the music files.

At least the powertab editor runs without problems under wine on the desktop. There you have the possibility to export it to text or html which gives the possibility to view it on the zaurus.

I've tried it with html and it works. Unfortunately only firefox displays the html code correct.

andreas
pungipungi
QUOTE(iamasmith @ Feb 12 2006, 01:16 AM)
Hmm, it would be so cool if someone produced a powertab player for Linux... there is a powertab tools archive which has a powertab decode library in it I believe... the project is more aimed at taking powertab files into Lilypond though.

- Andy
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Maybe the ascii tab viewer version of my gpe-gprviewer is the first step.

It gives the possibility to read ascii tabs and to scroll them in realtime.

Ascii tabs can be easily exported from most of the guitar editors (guitar pro, powertab, tabedit) or directly loaded from the internet archives ....

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