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scheck.r
I am surprised no one posted something about it already

Here we go:

1.1.0beta2

Unstable version for beta testers

For Zaurus SL-C1000/C3100
New mmc/sd driver need testers.
Installation files: kathrin-1.1.0beta2-akita.zip
Feed: http://mail.pdaxrom.org/1.1.0beta2/Zaurus-C1000-C3100/feed/
More applications you can install from Zaurus SL-C7x0 feed.

PhyCORE-PXA270(info)
Rootfs for unpack to CF card: rootfs.tar.bz2
Kernel: zImage.bin
Feed: http://mail.pdaxrom.org/1.1.0beta2/PhyCORE-PXA270/feed/
More applications you can install from Zaurus SL-C1000/C3100 or SL-C7x0 feeds.

pdaXrom-builder
pdaXrom-builder-05.30_04.03.06.tar.bz2

Changelog builder
xmms-mad plugin updated
Added Integrator CP target (qemu-system-arm for testing)
Added PowerMac liveCD target (qemu-system-ppc for testing)
gimp updated
added mtPaint
updated dosfstools
updated util-linux
updated hostap stuffs
pilot-link added
j-pilot added
openssl updated
openssh updated
PlayStation2 target configs added
Phycore PCM027/022 target configs added
dia added
XFree Kdriver now building without builtin X_LOCALE
hostap-drivers - LinkSys WCF12 moved to firmware config

Changelog SL-C7x0
fixed unresolved symbol in hostap module
kernel updated to 2.4.20
new MMC/SD driver
kernel updated with cacko patches

Changelog SL-C1000/C3100
kernel updated with cacko patches
cpuoverclock - 104,208,312 MHz added
new MMC/SD driver
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See www.pdaxrom.org
Antikx
I'm tempted since I have to re-flash anyways.

Does this Beta fix the suspend/resume problems? Is that what "kernel updated with cacko patches" means?
adf
104 million megaherz? wouldn't it be easier to just throw it in a fire? smile.gif

seriously, though what do the new sd drivers do?
Meanie
QUOTE(adf @ Mar 6 2006, 09:14 AM)
104 million megaherz?  wouldn't it be easier to just throw it in a fire? smile.gif

seriously, though what do the new sd drivers do?
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The new SD driver supposed to allow you to use 2GB SD cards and possiby the 4GB ones as well. I am still waiting for my new SD card to arrive to test this.
donallen
I just flashed beta2 on my akita. While I haven't used it much yet, I did test my wireless card, a D-Link Air DCF-660W that I reported as not working in beta1. It seems to work fine in beta2. I'll report again after I've used the new beta release more extensively, but so far looks like good work.

/Don Allen
Martin
I you have a 2GB SD :-) ... now waiting for a Beta2 to my c860 ...
Xromer
Flashed and waiting tonight to cross compile all GPE PIM stuff and new ver. of GPSDRIVE to test the new GTK+ packaging.
Suspend and resume seems to work better.
The only problem is the poor battery power, that for a PDA with internal HD is a very big hassle!!!
BYEZ!!
laugh.gif
gromituk
QUOTE(Xromer @ Mar 6 2006, 02:18 AM)
Suspend and resume seems to work better.

Does this mean you no longer need to sit around while it restarts the window manager after being switched off for a while?
danboid
What I really want to know is are the kde dev packages available for this new beta? Well, more to the point, as I'm really not that bothered about being able to compile my own pdaxrom KDE apps (although it would be very good) I just want a kword package for pdaxrom! Surely I'm not the only one wanting something better than HancomWord on the Z? Last time I tried pdaxrom (beta1 for C3000) Abiword was very buggy and damn slow so I'm hoping kword will be better (I WOULD NOT run it under KDE, of course- KDE + 64MB RAM = yuk! )
Xromer
QUOTE(gromituk @ Mar 6 2006, 11:27 AM)
QUOTE(Xromer @ Mar 6 2006, 02:18 AM)
Suspend and resume seems to work better.

Does this mean you no longer need to sit around while it restarts the window manager after being switched off for a while?
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Yes it means this, i found it more responsive and faster in resuming.

QUOTE(danboid @ Mar 6 2006, 02:35 PM)
What I really want to know is are the kde dev packages available for this new beta? Well, more to the point, as I'm really not that bothered about being able to compile my own pdaxrom KDE apps (although it would be very good) I just want a kword package for pdaxrom! Surely I'm not the only one wanting something better than HancomWord on the Z? Last time I tried pdaxrom (beta1 for C3000) Abiword was very buggy and damn slow so I'm hoping kword will be better (I WOULD NOT run it under KDE, of course- KDE + 64MB RAM = yuk! )


I' m sorry danboid but i didn' t use KDE on Desktop because i find it too slow, i will sure not keep it on the Zauri.
I tried to install KDE with all the QT on the Zauri last month was terrifiing!! Too slow! I don' t really know how you can use it with a thing that u have to bring with yourself in car or while moving.
Just starting thunderbird is too slow for me, think that.
BYEZ!
danboid
QUOTE
I' m sorry danboid but i didn' t use KDE on Desktop because i find it too slow, i will sure not keep it on the Zauri.
I tried to install KDE with all the QT on the Zauri last month was terrifiing!! Too slow! I don' t really know how you can use it with a thing that u have to bring with yourself in car or while moving.
Just starting thunderbird is too slow for me, think that.
BYEZ!


Yes, I know KDE would be unusable on a Z (unless, maybe, you're lucky enough to have a modded Z w/128MB RAM) but you don't need to run KDE to run KDE programs like kword, you just need the kdelibs installed. I was told the reason that kword hasn't been ported to pdaxrom yet is because the kde dev packages for the last beta never got released so I just want to know if this has changed and if KDE has been updated to 3.5.1?
jerrybme
I flashed today to the Beta 2 and found the orinoco drivers from my Socket WiFi card are working. dmesg shows a firmware error:
CODE
spectrum_cs 0.15rc2HEAD (Pavel Roskin <proski@gnu.org>, David Gibson <hermes@gibson.dropbear.id.au>, et al)
spectrum_cs: Cannot find firmware: symbol_sp24t_prim_fw
spectrum_cs: Firmware download failed
wlan0: failed to initialize firmware (err = -16)
spectrum_cs: register_netdev() failed


I may try and recompile the kernel as I did for last version but was hoping the orinoco drivers were already patched for the monitor mode issue...
scheck.r
QUOTE(jerrybme @ Mar 6 2006, 11:54 PM)
I flashed today to the Beta 2 and found the orinoco drivers from my Socket WiFi card are working. dmesg shows a firmware error:
CODE
spectrum_cs 0.15rc2HEAD (Pavel Roskin <proski@gnu.org>, David Gibson <hermes@gibson.dropbear.id.au>, et al)
spectrum_cs: Cannot find firmware: symbol_sp24t_prim_fw
spectrum_cs: Firmware download failed
wlan0: failed to initialize firmware (err = -16)
spectrum_cs: register_netdev() failed


I may try and recompile the kernel as I did for last version but was hoping the orinoco drivers were already patched for the monitor mode issue...
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Same here, my Symbol Spectrum24 CF LA4137 doesn't wotk under beta2, no light whatsoever.
Same dmesg message as you.
It worked under beta1 out of the box except in monitor mode.
jerrybme
OK, I found that simply copying the orinoco modules from Chris Bryden fixes the problem.

Simply
CODE
# cd /
# tar xzvf /location-of-file/orinoco-modules.tar.gz

Then pop in your card and away you go.

To get the card to go into monitor mode for kismet, you'll need to
CODE
# iwconfig eth0 mode monitor


Cheers,
Jerry
scheck.r
QUOTE(jerrybme @ Mar 7 2006, 12:58 AM)
OK, I found that simply copying the orinoco modules from Chris Bryden fixes the problem.

Simply
CODE
# cd /
# tar xzvf /location-of-file/orinoco-modules.tar.gz

Then pop in your card and away you go.

To get the card to go into monitor mode for kismet, you'll need to
CODE
# iwconfig eth0 mode monitor


Cheers,
Jerry
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You are my saviour

Thnak you so much

I confirm that it's faster to resume now, no more redrawings twice like I had with beta1 especially using ROX-desktop.

Thanks Pdax Team
wjping119
QUOTE(scheck.r @ Mar 5 2006, 07:16 PM)
I am surprised no one posted something about it already

Here we go:

1.1.0beta2

Changelog SL-C7x0
fixed unresolved symbol in hostap module
kernel updated to 2.4.20
new MMC/SD driver
kernel updated with cacko patches

See www.pdaxrom.org
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who know where is the C7X0 2.4.20 kernel souce?I want to have a try to recompile it.I can't find it anywhere
jerrybme
QUOTE(wjping119 @ Mar 6 2006, 10:54 PM)
QUOTE(scheck.r @ Mar 5 2006, 07:16 PM)
I am surprised no one posted something about it already

Here we go:

1.1.0beta2

Changelog SL-C7x0
fixed unresolved symbol in hostap module
kernel updated to 2.4.20
new MMC/SD driver
kernel updated with cacko patches

See www.pdaxrom.org
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who know where is the C7X0 2.4.20 kernel souce?I want to have a try to recompile it.I can't find it anywhere
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You'll find them here : http://mail.pdaxrom.org/1.1.0beta1/src/

I've written up my steps for compiling a kernel: http://mail.pdaxrom.org/contrib/docs/kerne...mpile-3100.html
It'd be the same process just use the new pdaxrom builder in the beta2 feed & the C860 sources:linux-c860-20031107-rom1_10.tar.bz2 instead of the 3100, patches would be in the 860 directory of the new pdaXrom builder.
Good luck,
Jerry
sashz
use C3100 sources and patches for this kernel, generic and armv5tel-sharp-corgi

QUOTE(jerrybme @ Mar 7 2006, 05:51 AM)
QUOTE(wjping119 @ Mar 6 2006, 10:54 PM)
QUOTE(scheck.r @ Mar 5 2006, 07:16 PM)
I am surprised no one posted something about it already

Here we go:

1.1.0beta2

Changelog SL-C7x0
fixed unresolved symbol in hostap module
kernel updated to 2.4.20
new MMC/SD driver
kernel updated with cacko patches

See www.pdaxrom.org
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who know where is the C7X0 2.4.20 kernel souce?I want to have a try to recompile it.I can't find it anywhere
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You'll find them here : http://mail.pdaxrom.org/1.1.0beta1/src/

I've written up my steps for compiling a kernel: http://mail.pdaxrom.org/contrib/docs/kerne...mpile-3100.html
It'd be the same process just use the C860 sources:linux-c860-20031107-rom1_10.tar.bz2 instead of the 3100, patches would be in the 860 directory of pdaXrom builder.
Good luck,
Jerry
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sashz
forgot forgot
use this kernel crosstools for build 2.4.20
http://mail.pdaxrom.org/1.1.0beta1/Zaurus-...0.12.05.tar.bz2
albertr
Sash,

There the latest mmc driver source code can be found? Does it work in PIO mode on PXA270-based Zaurii now? Any known problems?
Thanks,
-albertr
sashz
QUOTE(albertr @ Mar 7 2006, 06:23 AM)
Sash,

There the latest mmc driver source code can be found? Does it work in PIO mode on PXA270-based Zaurii now? Any known problems?
Thanks,
-albertr
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that inside builder. For PXA270 PIO mode still not work - strange problem with reading from buffer - that freezin the status register during block transfer. In dma mode all works ok.

http://mail.pdaxrom.org/1.1.0beta2/pdaXrom...7.03.06.tar.bz2
http://mail.pdaxrom.org/1.1.0beta2/pdaXrom....tar.bz2.md5sum
ArchiMark
Installed 'kathrin-1.1.0beta2-akita' on my C3100 and so far works great with both my Ambicom WiFi card and my Socket ethernet card... tongue.gif

However, I'm a bit confused regarding what the

'PhyCORE-PXA270(info)
Rootfs for unpack to CF card: rootfs.tar.bz2
Kernel: zImage.bin'

listed below is for? Do I need to install this in addition to what I've already installed or is this optional or what?

Thanks for any input!

Mark



QUOTE(scheck.r @ Mar 5 2006, 12:16 PM)
I am surprised no one posted something about it already

Here we go:

1.1.0beta2

Unstable version for beta testers

For Zaurus SL-C1000/C3100
New mmc/sd driver need testers.
Installation files: kathrin-1.1.0beta2-akita.zip
Feed: http://mail.pdaxrom.org/1.1.0beta2/Zaurus-C1000-C3100/feed/
More applications you can install from Zaurus SL-C7x0 feed.

PhyCORE-PXA270(info)
Rootfs for unpack to CF card: rootfs.tar.bz2
Kernel: zImage.bin
Feed: http://mail.pdaxrom.org/1.1.0beta2/PhyCORE-PXA270/feed/
More applications you can install from Zaurus SL-C1000/C3100 or SL-C7x0 feeds.

[SNIP]
pgas
on www.pdaxrom.org
PhyCORE-PXA270(info)
click on the info :
http://www.phytec.com/sbc/32bit/pcpxa270.htm

So unless you buy the phytec's board you can forget about it
pgas
beta2 for 700 - 860 is online.
A little note:
It seems my zaurus freezes when no CF card is in the slot.
It also freezes when I do cardctl eject in the linux console (outside X)
It doesn't boot if no cf is in the slot.

So perhaps don't install it if you don't have a Cf that you are willing to leave in the slot smile.gif

If you have one, please install and report. (Other than that it seems to work great)


PS: xfce autorotate added on http://mail.pdaxrom.org/contrib
more howto's to come thanks to Chero and Nick, if you have some howtos or anything don't hesitate to contact me
Antikx
QUOTE(pgas @ Mar 7 2006, 12:42 PM)
beta2 for 700 - 860 is online.
A little note:
It seems my zaurus freezes when no CF card is in the slot.
It also freezes when I do cardctl eject in the linux console (outside X)
It doesn't boot if no cf is in the slot.

So perhaps don't install it if you don't have a Cf that you are willing to leave in the slot smile.gif
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Do these problems apply to the Beta2 for 1000 and 3100 as well?
henrysviper
Many thanks to the dev team for this release.

Does the Belkin infrared keyboard (f8u1500) work with this release?
pgas
QUOTE
Do these problems apply to the Beta2 for 1000 and 3100 as well?


I don't know, the problem seems to be related to the sd driver that is not initialized
correctly when no cf card is in the slot.

The 3100 user might not notice the problem wink.gif
km2783
Would the use of a wifi SD card be a possibility with these new SD/MMC drivers? Or just bigger cards? Typing in clamshell mode is a pain with a humongous CF wifi card sticking out the side. blink.gif

Still looking for a good deal on 4GB SD cards so I can take one for a test drive.

QUOTE(pgas @ Mar 7 2006, 02:36 PM)
QUOTE
Do these problems apply to the Beta2 for 1000 and 3100 as well?


I don't know, the problem seems to be related to the sd driver that is not initialized
correctly when no cf card is in the slot.

The 3100 user might not notice the problem wink.gif
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yay internal cf slot biggrin.gif
ArchiMark
No problems with no CF card in slot on my 3100 running beta2, Antikx....

cool.gif

Mark

QUOTE(Antikx @ Mar 7 2006, 12:32 PM)
Do these problems apply to the Beta2 for 1000 and 3100 as well?
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QUOTE(pgas @ Mar 7 2006, 12:42 PM)
beta2 for 700 - 860 is online.
A little note:
It seems my zaurus freezes when no CF card is in the slot.
It also freezes when I do cardctl eject in the linux console (outside X)
It doesn't boot if no cf is in the slot.

So perhaps don't install it if you don't have a Cf that you are willing to leave in the slot smile.gif
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km2783
that is because you have an internal CF slot with a card in it (hard drive) wink.gif
0xDEADBEEF
I just installed it on my c3100 and here is what i noticed.

- suspend/resume sucks. after suspend, pressing hw button to wake the pda up sometimes flashes the desktop and thats it. it helped when i copied timezone file from my desktop. i think it would be great if collection of basic timezones was included and /etc/localtime already existed. but still it seems that now the clock goes to sleep when pda goes to sleep.

- wifi behaves erratically (i am using hostap driver and wpa_supplicant). once in a while when copying a big file it stalls, the card seems to lose connection and reacquire it. also it seems that it slows down (almost freezes) whole. i tried it with two wifi cards (linksys wcf12 and ambicom)

it seems that /var/log is on a flash partition. i am little afraid it may burn out the flash. is anyone else concerned about it? is it possible to move it to tmpfs somehow ? like tmp and /var/run. really i would prefer that c3100 system had root fs on microdrive and never used flash. is that possible? it seems c3000 operates this way.
daniel3000
QUOTE(0xDEADBEEF @ Mar 8 2006, 11:20 PM)
- wifi behaves erratically (i am using hostap driver and wpa_supplicant). once in a while when copying a big file it stalls, the card seems to lose connection and reacquire it. also it seems that it slows down (almost freezes) whole. i tried it with two wifi cards (linksys wcf12 and ambicom)
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This is a behavior I also saw about 3-4 years ago when I worked on my diploma thesis using an early version of the hostap driver (on a desktop though, not a Zaurus).

Have you tried another driver?

daniel
axele
I have installed it on my sl-c3000, and it works out fine...
I am glad I brought a compiler to work, so all Linux
is at hand....


Best regards,

Axel
Martin
Hi :-)

now running Beta 2 ... first impression every thing works all right ... no problem booting without cf and sd card ... wifi cf card works ok.

some problems with smbmnt ... maybe my fault.

Later some more tests ... SD Card 2 GB first test recorgnized but could not mount it.

Many thanks to all developers
Martin.
cal
0xDEADBEEF, I have had the same problem you describe in beta1. I thought it was my router, but it happens everywhere.
0xDEADBEEF
QUOTE(daniel3000 @ Mar 9 2006, 02:07 AM)
This is a behavior I also saw about 3-4 years ago when I worked on my diploma thesis using an early version of the hostap driver (on a desktop though, not a Zaurus).

Have you tried another driver?

daniel
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I have great faith in hostap driver. I used different versions on my notebook and my firewall/accesspoint in AP mode and I find it the best ever wireless driver for any card in linux.

Interesting thing. With RC12 (hostap 0.3.9+wpa_supplicant) 802.11x at office worked just fine with supplicant loaded before the driver. in Beta2 I had to modify script files so the supplicant is loaded after the driver. Otherwise it just cannot associate when loaded before and waiting for the interface to show up.

Now another problem. Everytime I reboot my time gets reset to like a year ago. Isnt there some RTC in the cpu (or on the board) that keeps current time?
silencer51
So, is suspend/resume any better? As in faster?

I understand that you still cant suspend and resume immediatelly (results in screen turning on and off immediatelly)...
km2783
I have a 4GB SD card on the way, I will report my findings smile.gif
omro
I've put it on my C1000 and the suspend/resume is as flakey as before if you press the on/off button too quickly.

You press the button and it suspends.
You press the button to bring it back and nothing seems to happen or it flashes up for a second and goes again.

But... if you wait for a little while before you press the button again, it seems to work as you would expect.
km2783
My card arrives today biggrin.gif

All this talk about suspend/release... I never really had issues with it. I press the power button, and the only thing that really does not repsond immediately is the backlight. After a couple seconds, it kicks on and away I go. Sometimes, there is a few second interval that the screen refreshes a few times, but that seems to only occur if I have left the unit in suspend for several days.

I mostly use the Menu to Suspend, but it works just like the power button on my 3100. It is actually pretty much the reverse of when I tell it to leave suspend. The backlight goes out, and a second or two later the screen itself finally goes blank.

I suppose it would be nice if it responded as rapidly as my Tungsten T3, but the only thing happening there when you press the power button is the screen is shutting off or turning on. How it works now does not really bother me at all, though.
km2783
Reflashed to beta2 and let's just say it won't work biggrin.gif. The 512MB card I had in there was recognized, but I could not unmount it. Under X, it just sat there.

So I thought to reboot the system. Closed X, then told it to shutdown now. well, after it got to "Unloading USB: it sat there for over 5 minutes. So I pulled the battery huh.gif

Power the unit back on, no SD card in the slot. Nothing I do will get even the 512MB card to mount. laugh.gif

The applet under X just sits there, and when I try:

mount /dev/mmcda /mnt/card it just sits there
mount /dev/mmcda1 /mnt/card it just sits there
mount /dev/mmcda2 /mnt/card it just sits there

I thought I remember reading something in this thread about SD cards and cards in the slot on powerup for this release to test something, but it is late, I don't have time to reread the thread right now, I could be making it up anyway laugh.gif

i'll investiage further tomorrow.

the card is an a-data turbo 4GB from newegg.com
km2783
okay, okay, quick update.

I did get it to boot and recognize the old 512MB card again. But the 4GB is a no go for now wacko.gif
Meanie
QUOTE(km2783 @ Mar 16 2006, 05:06 PM)
okay, okay, quick update.

I did get it to boot and recognize the old 512MB card again.  But the 4GB is a no go for now wacko.gif
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did you try:

CODE
/etc/sdcontrol eject
/etc/sdcontrol insert

?
km2783
Good question.

In answer... I just learned something new biggrin.gif

And walking up to the work building this morning, what was happening with the 512 card was that when I interupted the (presumed) hang while trying to mount the 4GB card, I could no longer mount the 512MB card. If left alone, it auto-mounts whenever I insert the 512MB card, and umouts when I remove it.

I'll try it right now.
km2783
here's a fun thing.

After being suspended all night, it won't come back on. I removed the battery, replaced it, and it still won't come back on huh.gif

I can't even get into the service menu blink.gif Magical.

The power LED comes on to show the battery is being charged. That is all.

No power plugged in, I remove the battery for several seconds (at least 5), put it back in, plug in power, hold Ok and press power. Nothing. Nothing but tears laugh.gif

Time for some OESF search engine queries dry.gif

**edit**

after being plugged in for a few minutes, it turned on rolleyes.gif The battery had nearly a full charge, wtf dry.gif oh well.

Now I can try it
km2783
QUOTE(Meanie @ Mar 16 2006, 05:22 AM)
did you try:

CODE
/etc/sdcontrol eject
/etc/sdcontrol insert

?
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I tried insert. It just hangs there, doing nothing, just like:

CODE
mount /dev/mmcda /mnt/card
mount /dev/mmcda1 /mnt/card
mount /dev/mmcda2 /mnt/card
km2783
I wonder if there is an issue with suspending somehow? It is like instead of going into suspend, it stayed on all night. Because my battery is drained, and under Beta1 I would leave it in suspend for days sometimes, and never had any issues. This morning, I had to leave it plugged in for a few minutes like I said previously, and when I got back into X, the battery applet showed 60% power. Then it plumetted, the backlight went off, and I had to plug it back in.

I used the menu to suspend, like I do 99% of the time.

But back to the 4GB card, I can't get it to recognize anything. But I am willing to keep trying if anyone has any more suggestions.

My Tungsten T3 did not recognize the card, either, but I believe that is just because it is an older unit. Supposedly w/ out some patch I did not get, it won't read cards larger than 256MB, though it read my 512 just fine.

I will try to pick up an SD card reader to see if windows XP can recognize it.
ULhume
I still have suspend/resume problem with my SL-C1000. It's not always but really often. When I let power management suspend the device, i am not able to restart it again. I have sometime a picture for 1 second and down again... Any idea ?
km2783
update:

Picked up a card reader at lunch. Windows 2000 says...

the frickin' thing is not formatted unsure.gif

but alas, I do not have the authority to format at work. so I will try again when I get home since i can't mount it under pdaxrom to format it under linux dry.gif
0xDEADBEEF
QUOTE(km2783 @ Mar 16 2006, 02:31 PM)
update:

Picked up a card reader at lunch.  Windows 2000 says...

the frickin' thing is not formatted unsure.gif

but alas, I do not have the authority to format at work.  so I will try again when I get home since i can't mount it under pdaxrom to format it under linux dry.gif
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Windows may say it is unformatted becuase it cannot read it either.
In linux first you format then mount.

try
dd if=/dev/mmcda of=firstblk.bin count=1 bs=512
it should read first sector from the device
if it fails it means that the driver or slot cannot read from the card

then
Try running fdisk /dev/mmcda and see if it works
Create a partition table. Create fat32 or ext2 partition.
Then format it (mke2fs, mkdosfs)
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