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ShiroiKuma
On the X/Qt site you can see this screenshot of running in rootless mode.

This might be a solution to running individual X apps in Qtopia, i.e. being able to switch just to the app, not to the whole X/Qt desktop.

Does anyone have any experience with this? How do you start an app in X/Qt in rootless mode?
bam
this sounds interesting....I like the idea!
Jon_J
That would be a great idea. cool.gif
1. would occupy less disc/card space
2. would occupy less RAM
3. seems like apps would launch quicker and be snappier because of using less resources
QUOTE(ShiroiKuma @ Apr 27 2006, 03:17 PM)
This might be a solution to running individual X apps in Qtopia, i.e. being able to switch just to the app, not to the whole X/Qt desktop.
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Meanie
QUOTE(Jon_J @ Apr 28 2006, 06:32 AM)
That would be a great idea.  cool.gif
1. would occupy less disc/card space
2. would occupy less RAM
3. seems like apps would launch quicker and be snappier because of using less resources
QUOTE(ShiroiKuma @ Apr 27 2006, 03:17 PM)
This might be a solution to running individual X apps in Qtopia, i.e. being able to switch just to the app, not to the whole X/Qt desktop.
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the next update of pdaXqtrom will have a rootless option, ie invoked via xlauncher -embed appname
the qtopia icons will have the -embed flag added to the launch scripts
bam
yes! killer!
Meanie
QUOTE(bam @ Apr 28 2006, 07:02 PM)
yes! killer!
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here's xmms in rootless mode

the new image will be ready soon. just compiling a few extra bits which takes a while on the Z
ShiroiKuma
QUOTE(Meanie @ Apr 30 2006, 06:09 PM)
here's xmms in rootless mode

the new image will be ready soon. just compiling a few extra bits which takes a while on the Z
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What happens when you run two apps in rootless mode? Do they each have an X/Qt icon in the taskbar? Still would be the same icon, but nevertheless... You could switch between them and other Qt tasks conveniently...
jfv
Please tell me that the internet exploder icon on the taskbar is a joke.

Felipe
Meanie
QUOTE(jfv @ May 1 2006, 09:25 AM)
Please tell me that the internet exploder icon on the taskbar is a joke.

Felipe
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It is smile.gif finally someone notices it smile.gif
bam
how soon? /me is impatient...this is cool.
Meanie
QUOTE(bam @ May 1 2006, 12:51 PM)
how soon? /me is impatient...this is cool.
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very soon. i was almost done today, but then decided to recompile gtk2 so abiword would have nice window sizes that fit the screen and then I am also compiling some plugins for abiword too which hopefully will allow pdf and openoffice document support in abiword.
got screen rotation working too and fixed the window sizes for 6000 models as well.
a day or two and it should be ready unless i find something else to add smile.gif
ShiroiKuma
From the other post, I tried your new version...

It seems that only one app can be run in rootless mode. When I start a second one it says one is already running. Can this be gotten around?

Also running rootless firefox-embedded doesn't seem to work on my 3200, it just starts the X, you see the icon, and then exits. From a command prompt though it gives no error...

How can I debug the start to see what's failing?
Meanie
QUOTE(ShiroiKuma @ May 3 2006, 10:15 PM)
From the other post, I tried your new version...

It seems that only one app can be run in rootless mode. When I start a second one it says one is already running. Can this be gotten around?

Also running rootless firefox-embedded doesn't seem to work on my 3200, it just starts the X, you see the icon, and then exits. From a command prompt though it gives no error...

How can I debug the start to see what's failing?
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xlauncher -debug -embed firefox-embedded
ShiroiKuma
QUOTE(Meanie @ May 4 2006, 04:44 AM)
xlauncher -debug -embed firefox-embedded
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OK will do. And what about the one-app limit in rootless? Is there no way to run more apps in rootless mode?
Meanie
QUOTE(ShiroiKuma @ May 4 2006, 04:51 PM)
QUOTE(Meanie @ May 4 2006, 04:44 AM)
xlauncher -debug -embed firefox-embedded
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OK will do. And what about the one-app limit in rootless? Is there no way to run more apps in rootless mode?
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well you could open a terminal and

export DISPLAY=:0.0
appname

note that this rootless mode is experimental and has many limitations. it is also only available in xqt server 0.8 it was removed in 0.9
i might have a look into it further and recompile xqt server but no time for it right now.
ShiroiKuma
QUOTE(Meanie @ May 4 2006, 08:00 AM)
well you could open a terminal and

export DISPLAY=:0.0
appname

I did this and it works, the only problem is it launches the second app in the first apps window - obviously. But the second one is on top and there is no way to switch them.

I'd like to just run two rootless instances of X/Qt to open two apps individually. When I just try runx then the X/Qt server gives an error. That's probably why you put it in the launch script to not allow running a second app rootless.

But surely there must be a way to launch a second instance of any program under Linux independently. How can I do this with X/Qt.

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note that this rootless mode is experimental and has many limitations. it is also only available in xqt server 0.8 it was removed in 0.9
i might have a look into it further and recompile xqt server but no time for it right now.
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Yeah, that's what it says on the X/Qt site about it being experimental etc. I like it though. The way it runs the apps as you have done it in your image is really good.

That's why I want to run more than one app in the rootless mode.
Meanie
QUOTE(ShiroiKuma @ May 6 2006, 12:59 AM)
QUOTE(Meanie @ May 4 2006, 08:00 AM)
well you could open a terminal and

export DISPLAY=:0.0
appname

I did this and it works, the only problem is it launches the second app in the first apps window - obviously. But the second one is on top and there is no way to switch them.

I'd like to just run two rootless instances of X/Qt to open two apps individually. When I just try runx then the X/Qt server gives an error. That's probably why you put it in the launch script to not allow running a second app rootless.

But surely there must be a way to launch a second instance of any program under Linux independently. How can I do this with X/Qt.

QUOTE
note that this rootless mode is experimental and has many limitations. it is also only available in xqt server 0.8 it was removed in 0.9
i might have a look into it further and recompile xqt server but no time for it right now.
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Yeah, that's what it says on the X/Qt site about it being experimental etc. I like it though. The way it runs the apps as you have done it in your image is really good.

That's why I want to run more than one app in the rootless mode.
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its possible to have multiple apps in their own rootless window with their own icon by running multiple instances of xqt. each xqt instance needs to run on a different display. i havent written a script for it yet to allocate and deallocate the displays. the next version, 0.7.7 will have this smile.gif
ShiroiKuma
QUOTE(Meanie @ May 5 2006, 05:32 PM)
its possible to have multiple apps in their own rootless window with their own icon by running multiple instances of xqt. each xqt instance needs to run on a different display. i havent written a script for it yet to allocate and deallocate the displays.
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I copied your xlauncher script to play with it and just see if it'd work, to xlauncher2.

In xlauncher2 I modified the part where when running an embedded app it checks if X="" and if it does it says that you're running an embedded app already.

Changed it to export the DISPLAY=:1.0 (also :0.1, tried two versions, since couldn't remember the right form).

Now, I run for instance dillo rootless first. Then when I try xlauncher2 -embed xmms, the X/Qt pops an X/Qt Server box, saying Fatal error.

What am I doing wrong?
hello
Does this work on C1000 as well as C3x00? unsure.gif
Meanie
QUOTE(hello @ May 6 2006, 04:52 AM)
Does this work on C1000 as well as C3x00?  unsure.gif
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this should work on ALL models with Sharp ROM or Cacko
Meanie
QUOTE(ShiroiKuma @ May 6 2006, 03:24 AM)
QUOTE(Meanie @ May 5 2006, 05:32 PM)
its possible to have multiple apps in their own rootless window with their own icon by running multiple instances of xqt. each xqt instance needs to run on a different display. i havent written a script for it yet to allocate and deallocate the displays.
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I copied your xlauncher script to play with it and just see if it'd work, to xlauncher2.

In xlauncher2 I modified the part where when running an embedded app it checks if X="" and if it does it says that you're running an embedded app already.

Changed it to export the DISPLAY=:1.0 (also :0.1, tried two versions, since couldn't remember the right form).

Now, I run for instance dillo rootless first. Then when I try xlauncher2 -embed xmms, the X/Qt pops an X/Qt Server box, saying Fatal error.

What am I doing wrong?
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in addition to setting the display for the client, the server needs to be started on a different display as well so you have matching pairs of client and servers on different displays. in addition, you also need to allocate xauthority cookies to each display
ShiroiKuma
QUOTE(Meanie @ May 6 2006, 12:55 AM)
in addition to setting the display for the client, the server needs to be started on a different display as well so you have matching pairs of client and servers on different displays. in addition, you also need to allocate xauthority cookies to each display
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Oh yeah, just realized it looking into your runx script.

Seems I'm getting entangled in trying to create a parallel script that would alloc individual displays...

So far haven't managed...
ShiroiKuma
QUOTE(Meanie @ May 6 2006, 12:55 AM)
in addition to setting the display for the client, the server needs to be started on a different display as well so you have matching pairs of client and servers on different displays. in addition, you also need to allocate xauthority cookies to each display
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OK, I'm trying further, maybe you can help me.

I'm just trying for two apps now to see if I can get it right.

In the xlauncher, changed the part when -embed is called, and X is not empty to export DISPLAY to :1.0 and run runx.

In runx modified it if exported DISPLAY is :1.0 to use .Xauthority2 cookie instead of .Xauthority.

But I'm confused with the lines around
CODE
if [ x"$serverargs" = x ] && expr "$1" : ':[0-9]...

That's where it specifies which display X is started on, right?

I'm not sure I understand it correctly, so don't know how to change the display to :1.0 if it's already running on :0.0.

Plus I don't seem to see where runx is called from xlauncher with this display op.

Can you advise?
Meanie
QUOTE(ShiroiKuma @ May 6 2006, 11:31 AM)
QUOTE(Meanie @ May 6 2006, 12:55 AM)
in addition to setting the display for the client, the server needs to be started on a different display as well so you have matching pairs of client and servers on different displays. in addition, you also need to allocate xauthority cookies to each display
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Oh yeah, just realized it looking into your runx script.

Seems I'm getting entangled in trying to create a parallel script that would alloc individual displays...

So far haven't managed...
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I will make it work in the next update. promise smile.gif
can you test the other stuff, especially the keys? i want to make sure everything else works before adding more features and complexity.
ShiroiKuma
QUOTE(Meanie @ May 6 2006, 10:22 AM)
I will make it work in the next update. promise smile.gif
can you test the other stuff, especially the keys? i want to make sure everything else works before adding more features and complexity.
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OK, I'll give up on this now then smile.gif

One more idea I have associated with this is that then every rootless app can have it's own icon, this'll be tops. The way to do it is symlink Xqt-rootless as Xqt-rootless-firefox, Xqt-rootless-dillo, etc. and then have probably a separate Xqt-server tab in Qtopia, where you'll have the desktop files with different icons for Firefox etc.

Then if you change in the launch script to run Xqt-rootless-firefox if Firefox is called in rootless mode, and voila. You'll have every rootless app with it's own icon, behaving like a separate Qt app, easy to switch between them with Alt-Tab, everything beautiful...

What do you think of this?

I'm testing the other stuff now, the Alt-drag thing I've traced to .xmodmaprc. I've deleted that file, since the keyboard mapping on the 3200 is just fine in X/Qt and now alt-drag works.

Do you want me to check on anything else specifically?
Meanie
QUOTE(ShiroiKuma @ May 6 2006, 07:41 PM)
QUOTE(Meanie @ May 6 2006, 10:22 AM)
I will make it work in the next update. promise smile.gif
can you test the other stuff, especially the keys? i want to make sure everything else works before adding more features and complexity.
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OK, I'll give up on this now then smile.gif

One more idea I have associated with this is that then every rootless app can have it's own icon, this'll be tops. The way to do it is symlink Xqt-rootless as Xqt-rootless-firefox, Xqt-rootless-dillo, etc. and then have probably a separate Xqt-server tab in Qtopia, where you'll have the desktop files with different icons for Firefox etc.

Then if you change in the launch script to run Xqt-rootless-firefox if Firefox is called in rootless mode, and voila. You'll have every rootless app with it's own icon, behaving like a separate Qt app, easy to switch between them with Alt-Tab, everything beautiful...

What do you think of this?

I'm testing the other stuff now, the Alt-drag thing I've traced to .xmodmaprc. I've deleted that file, since the keyboard mapping on the 3200 is just fine in X/Qt and now alt-drag works.

Do you want me to check on anything else specifically?
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can you generate a keymap for me then?

CODE
xmodmap -pke > xmodmaprc-c3200
xmodmap -pm  > xmodmaprc-mod


and send me those files

everything else should be working fine, just need someone to double check, but the IM is new and I have only tested it with abiword to input japanese
currently i have uim, anthy and scim installed, scim works, but i have not been able to compile scim-anthy yet to utilise anthy
ShiroiKuma
QUOTE(Meanie @ May 6 2006, 12:37 PM)
can you generate a keymap for me then?

CODE
xmodmap -pke > xmodmaprc-c3200
xmodmap -pm  > xmodmaprc-mod


and send me those files

everything else should be working fine, just need someone to double check, but the IM is new and I have only tested it with abiword to input japanese
currently i have uim, anthy and scim installed, scim works, but i have not been able to compile scim-anthy yet to utilise anthy
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OK, here goes. It's actually a .tar.bz2 file, just remove the .zip extension...

Why don't you use Prime for Japanese input? It's predictive, so ideal for the Z where you can't touch type. Much faster than Anthy.
Meanie
QUOTE(ShiroiKuma @ May 7 2006, 04:10 AM)
QUOTE(Meanie @ May 6 2006, 12:37 PM)
can you generate a keymap for me then?

CODE
xmodmap -pke > xmodmaprc-c3200
xmodmap -pm  > xmodmaprc-mod


and send me those files

everything else should be working fine, just need someone to double check, but the IM is new and I have only tested it with abiword to input japanese
currently i have uim, anthy and scim installed, scim works, but i have not been able to compile scim-anthy yet to utilise anthy
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OK, here goes. It's actually a .tar.bz2 file, just remove the .zip extension...

Why don't you use Prime for Japanese input? It's predictive, so ideal for the Z where you can't touch type. Much faster than Anthy.
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Thanks for doing this. I compared yours and my keymap, basically yours is exactly like my original keymap which did not work for me so I reassigned Home to Super_L so the left kana key would be Alt_L. In your case, the left kana key is Alt_L and Home is Alt_L / Meta_L. This is bizarre but might have something to do with my keyhelper settings. I am putting your keymap as the default since that was my original default map too and I will call my current map custom map.
So now the installer will use the default map (which is the same as yours).

I hope this will fix everyone's keyboard mappings (well for the Cxx00 series). Since nobody with 7x0 or 6000 has said anything I will assume that your keymappings are all OK smile.gif
ShiroiKuma
QUOTE(Meanie @ May 7 2006, 01:43 PM)
Thanks for doing this.  I compared yours and my keymap, basically yours is exactly like my original keymap which did not work for me so I reassigned Home to Super_L so the left kana key would be Alt_L. In your case, the left kana key is Alt_L and Home is Alt_L / Meta_L. This is bizarre but might have something to do with my keyhelper settings. I am putting your keymap as the default since that was my original default map too and I will call my current map custom map.
So now the installer will use the default map (which is the same as yours).

I hope this will fix everyone's keyboard mappings (well for the Cxx00 series). Since nobody with 7x0 or 6000 has said anything I will assume that your keymappings are all OK smile.gif
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Actually I've just discovered I've been a little dumbfounded by Keyhelper too. So I entered 5 entries into my custom xmodmaprc file, since these keys are not mapped correctly, which I've discovered when I disabled KeyHelper.

The custom mappings are:
CODE
keycode 22 = minus grave
keycode 41 = braceleft
keycode 61 = braceright
keycode 69 = slash comma
keycode 70 = period question

You might wanna take care of these too.
Meanie
QUOTE(ShiroiKuma @ May 8 2006, 03:05 AM)
QUOTE(Meanie @ May 7 2006, 01:43 PM)
Thanks for doing this.  I compared yours and my keymap, basically yours is exactly like my original keymap which did not work for me so I reassigned Home to Super_L so the left kana key would be Alt_L. In your case, the left kana key is Alt_L and Home is Alt_L / Meta_L. This is bizarre but might have something to do with my keyhelper settings. I am putting your keymap as the default since that was my original default map too and I will call my current map custom map.
So now the installer will use the default map (which is the same as yours).

I hope this will fix everyone's keyboard mappings (well for the Cxx00 series). Since nobody with 7x0 or 6000 has said anything I will assume that your keymappings are all OK smile.gif
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Actually I've just discovered I've been a little dumbfounded by Keyhelper too. So I entered 5 entries into my custom xmodmaprc file, since these keys are not mapped correctly, which I've discovered when I disabled KeyHelper.

The custom mappings are:
CODE
keycode 22 = minus grave
keycode 41 = braceleft
keycode 61 = braceright
keycode 69 = slash comma
keycode 70 = period question

You might wanna take care of these too.
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Thanks. I have applied these smile.gif
ShiroiKuma
QUOTE(Meanie @ May 6 2006, 10:22 AM)
I will make it work in the next update. promise smile.gif

Hey man, have you made progress on this?

I'm not bugging, just curious... smile.gif
Meanie
QUOTE(ShiroiKuma @ May 10 2006, 12:20 PM)
QUOTE(Meanie @ May 6 2006, 10:22 AM)
I will make it work in the next update. promise smile.gif

Hey man, have you made progress on this?

I'm not bugging, just curious... smile.gif
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yeah, progresing. just doing several things concurrently, ie I got abiword working now with OpenOffice and PDF import filters as well as printing to PDF and postscript. I think I fixed the Cacko problem too. so now I am compiling more apps, but the biggest thing for me is to get jamvm and scim compiled properly. got fluxbox config gui tools too. been working on gtk so the rootless apps won't be oversized and fit on the screen, otherwise there will be no way of resizing or moving them. got the firefox settings screen fitting too smile.gif compiled the latest vesion of grisbi and aspell. trying to write scripts to convert the qt launch scripts between rootless and normal mode so you can easily switch them around.
ShiroiKuma
QUOTE(Meanie @ May 10 2006, 04:21 AM)
yeah, progresing. just doing several things concurrently, ie I got abiword working now with OpenOffice and PDF import filters as well as printing to PDF and postscript. I think I fixed the Cacko problem too. so now I am compiling more apps, but the biggest thing for me is to get jamvm and scim compiled properly. got fluxbox config gui tools too. been working on gtk so the rootless apps won't be oversized and fit on the screen, otherwise there will be no way of resizing or moving them. got the firefox settings screen fitting too smile.gif compiled the latest vesion of grisbi and aspell. trying to write scripts to convert the qt launch scripts between rootless and normal mode so you can easily switch them around.
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Woah, unbelievable man... You make such unbelievable progress. I tried only to do a fragment and failed - like lately wanted to compile fluxconf, as you've done. Couldn't get over some problematic function declarations etc. Spent a lot of time on it, yet it wouldn't build...

And you've done it all... laugh.gif
Meanie
QUOTE(ShiroiKuma @ May 10 2006, 08:26 PM)
QUOTE(Meanie @ May 10 2006, 04:21 AM)
yeah, progresing. just doing several things concurrently, ie I got abiword working now with OpenOffice and PDF import filters as well as printing to PDF and postscript. I think I fixed the Cacko problem too. so now I am compiling more apps, but the biggest thing for me is to get jamvm and scim compiled properly. got fluxbox config gui tools too. been working on gtk so the rootless apps won't be oversized and fit on the screen, otherwise there will be no way of resizing or moving them. got the firefox settings screen fitting too smile.gif compiled the latest vesion of grisbi and aspell. trying to write scripts to convert the qt launch scripts between rootless and normal mode so you can easily switch them around.
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Woah, unbelievable man... You make such unbelievable progress. I tried only to do a fragment and failed - like lately wanted to compile fluxconf, as you've done. Couldn't get over some problematic function declarations etc. Spent a lot of time on it, yet it wouldn't build...

And you've done it all... laugh.gif
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oh yeah fluxonf... just had to change the order of some code. same problem with xarchiver...
man, i foobared my system today and just managed to recover so i lost a whole day of work sad.gif
well, at least i learned how to debug qeserver
freebird
QUOTE(Meanie @ May 10 2006, 03:21 AM)
QUOTE(ShiroiKuma @ May 10 2006, 12:20 PM)
QUOTE(Meanie @ May 6 2006, 10:22 AM)
I will make it work in the next update. promise smile.gif

Hey man, have you made progress on this?

I'm not bugging, just curious... smile.gif
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yeah, progresing. just doing several things concurrently, ie I got abiword working now with OpenOffice and PDF import filters as well as printing to PDF and postscript. I think I fixed the Cacko problem too. so now I am compiling more apps, but the biggest thing for me is to get jamvm and scim compiled properly. got fluxbox config gui tools too. been working on gtk so the rootless apps won't be oversized and fit on the screen, otherwise there will be no way of resizing or moving them. got the firefox settings screen fitting too smile.gif compiled the latest vesion of grisbi and aspell. trying to write scripts to convert the qt launch scripts between rootless and normal mode so you can easily switch them around.
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Hi all
Now i am testing the embeded (rotless) Mode
seems not working in this new release 0.7.8
Meanie have you desactivated it ? blink.gif
cause it was working in the previous release
Meanie
QUOTE(freebird @ May 19 2006, 02:24 PM)
QUOTE(Meanie @ May 10 2006, 03:21 AM)
QUOTE(ShiroiKuma @ May 10 2006, 12:20 PM)
QUOTE(Meanie @ May 6 2006, 10:22 AM)
I will make it work in the next update. promise smile.gif

Hey man, have you made progress on this?

I'm not bugging, just curious... smile.gif
*



yeah, progresing. just doing several things concurrently, ie I got abiword working now with OpenOffice and PDF import filters as well as printing to PDF and postscript. I think I fixed the Cacko problem too. so now I am compiling more apps, but the biggest thing for me is to get jamvm and scim compiled properly. got fluxbox config gui tools too. been working on gtk so the rootless apps won't be oversized and fit on the screen, otherwise there will be no way of resizing or moving them. got the firefox settings screen fitting too smile.gif compiled the latest vesion of grisbi and aspell. trying to write scripts to convert the qt launch scripts between rootless and normal mode so you can easily switch them around.
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Hi all
Now i am testing the embeded (rotless) Mode
seems not working in this new release 0.7.8
Meanie have you desactivated it ? blink.gif
cause it was working in the previous release
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nothing has changed between 0.7.7 and 0.7.8 in the rootless bits. gaim and gimp were the only changes and the link for usr/lib/gtk-2.0
freebird
QUOTE(Meanie @ May 21 2006, 07:06 AM)
QUOTE(freebird @ May 19 2006, 02:24 PM)


Hi all
Now i am testing the embeded (rotless) Mode
seems not working in this new release 0.7.8
Meanie have you desactivated it ? blink.gif
cause it was working in the previous release
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nothing has changed between 0.7.7 and 0.7.8 in the rootless bits. gaim and gimp were the only changes and the link for usr/lib/gtk-2.0
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I don't know which version i tested when it works, since there is 3 0.7.5, 0.7.6 and
0.7.7, but if i do remember it stops working when you have add the 2 xqt embedded icons (not sure) huh.gif

anyway here is what i get when traying to launch embedded mode
CODE
#xlauncher -embed gqview
debug: there are 0 embedded processes
debug: no embedded processes
debug: setting display to :1.0
launching gqview embedded - please wait

no more
may be i have to switch something ?
i don't knew blink.gif
Meanie
QUOTE(freebird @ May 22 2006, 01:53 AM)
QUOTE(Meanie @ May 21 2006, 07:06 AM)
QUOTE(freebird @ May 19 2006, 02:24 PM)


Hi all
Now i am testing the embeded (rotless) Mode
seems not working in this new release 0.7.8
Meanie have you desactivated it ? blink.gif
cause it was working in the previous release
*


nothing has changed between 0.7.7 and 0.7.8 in the rootless bits. gaim and gimp were the only changes and the link for usr/lib/gtk-2.0
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I don't know which version i tested when it works, since there is 3 0.7.5, 0.7.6 and
0.7.7, but if i do remember it stops working when you have add the 2 xqt embedded icons (not sure) huh.gif

anyway here is what i get when traying to launch embedded mode
CODE
#xlauncher -embed gqview
debug: there are 0 embedded processes
debug: no embedded processes
debug: setting display to :1.0
launching gqview embedded - please wait

no more
may be i have to switch something ?
i don't knew blink.gif
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does it launch normally? ie

xlauncher gqview

what does the debug mode say? ie

xlauncher -debug -embed gqview
freebird
QUOTE(Meanie @ May 22 2006, 01:13 AM)
QUOTE(freebird @ May 22 2006, 01:53 AM)
QUOTE(Meanie @ May 21 2006, 07:06 AM)
QUOTE(freebird @ May 19 2006, 02:24 PM)


Hi all
Now i am testing the embeded (rotless) Mode
seems not working in this new release 0.7.8
Meanie have you desactivated it ? blink.gif
cause it was working in the previous release
*


nothing has changed between 0.7.7 and 0.7.8 in the rootless bits. gaim and gimp were the only changes and the link for usr/lib/gtk-2.0
*



I don't know which version i tested when it works, since there is 3 0.7.5, 0.7.6 and
0.7.7, but if i do remember it stops working when you have add the 2 xqt embedded icons (not sure) huh.gif

anyway here is what i get when traying to launch embedded mode
CODE
#xlauncher -embed gqview
debug: there are 0 embedded processes
debug: no embedded processes
debug: setting display to :1.0
launching gqview embedded - please wait

no more
may be i have to switch something ?
i don't knew blink.gif
*



does it launch normally? ie

xlauncher gqview

what does the debug mode say? ie

xlauncher -debug -embed gqview
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Here it is smile.gif
CODE
debug: there are 0 embedded processes
debug: no embedded processes
debug: setting display to :1.0
launching gqview embedded - please wait a moment...
$ using authority file /home/zaurus/.Xauthority
Writing authority file /home/zaurus/.Xauthority
using authority file /home/zaurus/.Xauthority
Writing authority file /home/zaurus/.Xauthority
/etc/X11/xinit/xrootlessrc-1: /opt/QtPalmtop/bin/Xqt-rootless-1: not found
giving up.
xinit: No such file or directory (errno 2): unable to connect to X server
xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error
Meanie
rename /opt/QtPalmtop/bin/Xqt-rootless1 to /opt/QtPalmtop/bin/Xqt-rootless-1
and
/opt/QtPalmtop/bin/Xqt-rootless2 to /opt/QtPalmtop/bin/Xqt-rootless-2

it should let you run two apps in rootless mode at a time. it should tell you to bugger off when you try to run a third one smile.gif
i don't think its wise to run more anyway since the Z does not have that much cpu power and memory

personally, i dont like the rootless mode thing that much. it sounds like a good idea at first but once you play with it a bit more, you soon want to use the full xqt instead.

have you noticed you can cut and paste from qtopia into xqt? smile.gif
freebird
QUOTE(Meanie @ May 22 2006, 12:29 PM)
rename /opt/QtPalmtop/bin/Xqt-rootless1 to /opt/QtPalmtop/bin/Xqt-rootless-1
and
/opt/QtPalmtop/bin/Xqt-rootless2 to /opt/QtPalmtop/bin/Xqt-rootless-2

Ok that makes it work Now smile.gif
QUOTE
it should let you run two apps in rootless mode at a time. it should tell you to bugger off when you try to run a third one smile.gif
i don't think its wise to run more anyway since the Z does not have that much cpu power and memory
personally, i dont like the rootless mode thing that much. it sounds like a good idea at first but once you play with it a bit more, you soon want to use the full xqt instead.

I agree, in fact i never shutdown Xqt (padXqtrom), it is always open, so no need to launch it each time
QUOTE
have you noticed you can cut and paste from qtopia into xqt? smile.gif
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that is intresting as i am still using some applications under sharp rom

Thanks Meanie smile.gif
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