Fushnchupsh
Jul 15 2006, 05:40 AM
Well, I was surfing the net at work and I came across this
Blaze PSP on TV adapter it essentially uses a high quality camera to take a continuous feed of the psp screen. Unlike the other psp to tv adapters, it requires no hacking. I know that the zaurus and psp have similar batteries and all that this hooks into is the battery plug and the rca plug... Do you think with a little hacking around this could work with the Z? I've always wanted to use my zaurus with a monitor... and a tv screen would be the next best thing.
Ideas?
Tom61
Jul 18 2006, 09:04 PM
I think the optics may be setup wrong for the Z, as the PSP has a 16:9 screen, but the the Z has 4:3.
Da_Blitz
Jul 19 2006, 12:19 AM
true but as long as the Z's screen is smaller it shourd display somthing. if it puts black bars at the top and the bottom to display 16:9 on a 4:3 sscreen you will be fine hawever if it just chucks 16:9 at a screen then you will get some distorsion
if you can get some pics i will have a quick look however instintinct tells me it sould work if the screen is the right size
Antikx
Jan 18 2007, 04:09 PM
Has anyone tried one of these with their Zaurus yet?
Ling
Jan 18 2007, 06:21 PM
Looks cool. Unfortunately Lik-Sang went out of business, so you will probably have to look for a used on. The are a couple of the PSPonTV's up on eBay (PAL) for around $36. Not bad. I am going to keep an eye out for one of these. I bought a number of items from Lik-Sang. Great company, but constantly treading the hairy edge of IP and Copyright. Looks like this place has them for $60:
http://www.superufo.com/review_html/Review..._adapters_.htmlI would probably be willing to give it a shot unless someone sees something that definitely won't work. Confidence is not high on getting my Colorgraphic to work to the point that I can hook up on the road and do work. If you want a test pilot, I will pick one up after the 1st of the month.
Ling
Jan 18 2007, 06:59 PM
Then for another $80, you could convert the TV signal to VGA.

Would probably look *great*
Meanie
Jan 18 2007, 07:04 PM
QUOTE(Ling @ Jan 19 2007, 12:59 PM)
Would probably look *great*

and also look BIG

I'll probably get one next time I go to Hong Kong...
Ling
Jan 20 2007, 08:18 AM
Looking on eBay, there are used Nyko Play on TV devices for $19 with reasonable shipping. For me, ends up being about $27 deliver in US, DC area. I imagine that all of these devices will function the same, just different features. May be better to experiment with a cheaper one, particularly if we may want to perform some *modifications* on the device.

BTW these are BIN auctions and I am not affiliated with nor have I ever purchased from the seller.
speculatrix
Jan 20 2007, 01:39 PM
QUOTE(Fushnchupsh @ Jul 15 2006, 02:40 PM)
with the Z? I've always wanted to use my zaurus with a monitor... and a tv screen would be the next best thing.
thinking out loud, why don't some of these high-end multimedia TVs have a VNC viewer or rdesktop client built in, so that they can allow you to have the full PC experience using just a thin client? Hmm, I wonder if a vnc client for xbox or xbox360 would solve this problem.
Da_Blitz
Jan 24 2007, 12:47 AM
because it wouldnt be considered "simple"
however if you hooked it up with avhai or zero conf then it wouldnt be too hard to have a list that you could navigate of all the devices that advertise "vnc", i know my home PC adveritses some services (sftp for one, than you fedora for having that set up by default)
anyway i think a TV should just be a display adaptor, move the smarts into somthing that can be upgraded independitnly
actually an xbox with xbmc is one of the best media devices i have seen, add in an x server and a bash script and somthing like this could be whipped up in about 30 lines of code. actually this sounds like the "bulldog" secure pc idea
speculatrix
Jan 24 2007, 03:09 AM
QUOTE(Da_Blitz @ Jan 24 2007, 09:47 AM)
actually an xbox with xbmc is one of the best media devices i have seen, add in an x server and a bash script and somthing like this could be whipped up in about 30 lines of code. actually this sounds like the "bulldog" secure pc idea
xmbc? I love it... just upgraded to the latest version - 2.0.1. it does run a web server which is quite effective for remote control. If only the xbox had USB2 and you could attach a dvb-t adaptor, it would be magic!
Ling
Feb 23 2007, 04:35 PM
QUOTE(Ling @ Jan 20 2007, 11:18 AM)
Looking on eBay, there are used Nyko Play on TV devices for $19 with reasonable shipping. For me, ends up being about $27 deliver in US, DC area. I imagine that all of these devices will function the same, just different features. May be better to experiment with a cheaper one, particularly if we may want to perform some *modifications* on the device.

BTW these are BIN auctions and I am not affiliated with nor have I ever purchased from the seller.
Well, got one. Some surgery required. I got a pretty good deal. For the $19 I got the Play on TV and a PSP accessory kit with a lot of PSP stuff. I am going to have to take the hacksaw or something to the Play on TV in order to get it to fit well on the Z. I will share my results once I have the mod complete.
Capn_Fish
Feb 23 2007, 04:52 PM
I eagerly await the results!
Antikx
Feb 23 2007, 06:03 PM
*chomping on bit*
Antikx
Mar 5 2007, 02:40 PM
I'm dieing here, Ling!

What's the scoop?
Ling
Mar 5 2007, 05:18 PM
Sorry. Bottom line is that it is doable. I took it apart and looked at it. I am fooling around with a non-destructive method first before I resort to the hacksaw. I am busy with school for a few more months, so play time for my z is limited. Bottom line is that it works, it is just a matter of sufficient surgery to get it to lay flat against the screen. Rather than cut it up, I am looking at making a shim so that my son could also use it with his PSP. It has a plug for USB and power. Unfortunately, they are lined up on the opposite side from the one that works best for the z. I think with my shim method, I can leave the cable along. If I have to resort to the hacksaw, I will drill/dremel some small holes and bring them out the other side. If the shim method works, I think i can just post a template to cut one out as an attachment to this forum (or the new one!). I will try and get on it this week.
Also, I don't see any reason to spend more for the blaze, etc. They all seem to be similar. The other thing that slowed me down was when I found out the pdaXii13 doesn't support my Fellowes Stowaway USB keyboard (darn).
Antikx
Mar 5 2007, 05:23 PM
Ya! Good to hear.
How is the quality on the TV?
Can you read text in a console?
Does it cover the whole Zaurus screen?
Thanks for the mini-review!
Ling
Mar 5 2007, 05:59 PM
I will assess the readibility. The aperture is actually slightly larger than the z, so you get some of the frame as well. I am thinking that I will paint my shim flat black so it is less noticeable.
Antikx
Mar 5 2007, 06:06 PM
Very good. Thanks again! Can't wait to hear about readability.
Antikx
Mar 5 2007, 06:20 PM
Hmmm. trying to track one down in Canada or USA.
Looks like only place is in China:
http://www.divineo.cn/cgi-bin/div-cn/psp-tvad.html
speculatrix
Mar 6 2007, 01:38 AM
QUOTE(Ling @ Mar 6 2007, 02:59 AM)
I will assess the readibility. The aperture is actually slightly larger than the z, so you get some of the frame as well. I am thinking that I will paint my shim flat black so it is less noticeable.
can I suggest you buy some eggshell finish matte black paint (sometimes called blackboard paint), which has a really rough non-reflective finish and is ideal for reducing reflections.... probably available in any good hobby shop.
Fushnchupsh
Mar 7 2007, 09:56 AM
I am really glad to hear my idea turned into something... Yay I actually contributed (a very small!!) something to the forum :-D. Great to hear about your success, ling. Thank you for your hard work and testing.
--Fish
Antikx
Mar 7 2007, 10:40 AM
yes. Thank you.
I had thought of using a digital camera and making an enclosure, but having someone do all the work and testing for me is A-OK!

Also, There are LCD monitors now that have built in tuners, so that you can have your cake and eat it too.
Ling
Mar 10 2007, 12:18 PM
I will post results and updates here:
http://zaurus.freeforums.org/viewtopic.php?p=9#9FWIW, this whole concept is useless to me until I get my Fellowes Stowaway USB keyboard working. I am hoping that Meanie will take a look at it. I can live without the wheel on my mouse, but not a keyboard.
Capn_Fish
Mar 14 2007, 04:17 PM
So you think this will work well for video-out? It sounds as though the picture is good...
Antikx
Mar 14 2007, 05:51 PM
It sure sounds like it. ya!
I'm gonna have to ask for one as an early b-day present.

thanks for giving us the info Ling.
Ling
Mar 18 2007, 05:38 PM
Ling
Apr 8 2007, 06:24 PM
All cutting, glueing, sanding, cleaning complete. Read more here:
http://zaurus.freeforums.org/viewtopic.php?p=20#20
speculatrix
Apr 9 2007, 09:23 PM
cool, look forward to seeing photos
Antikx
Apr 11 2007, 06:47 AM
QUOTE(speculatrix @ Apr 9 2007, 11:23 PM)
cool, look forward to seeing photos
Ditto.
Good work Ling.
Ling
Apr 11 2007, 05:49 PM
OK, you asked for it. Check out my crappy photos:
http://zaurus.freeforums.org/viewtopic.php?p=21#21Unlike OESF, the attachments work great with Firefox. Enjoy.
Antikx
Apr 11 2007, 08:33 PM
Ya!
You rock.
Thanks.
Antikx
Oct 12 2007, 07:28 AM
Has anyone else been playing with this?
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