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Meanie
pdaXqtrom 0.8.2 done. new website at http://pdaxqtrom.thegrinder.ws

bug fixes:

-- thunderbird now works (permission problem with extensions fixed)
-- dosbox does not depend on zgcc image anymore (also renamed package to dosbox-x11)
-- fixed epdfview crash

new features/updates:

-- icewm (can use fluxbox or icewm)
-- grisbi updated to 0.5.9

new apps:

- homebank 3.2 compiled
- knowde 1.8.0 compiled
- xpad 2.11 compiled
- xournal 0.3.1 compiled


optimizations: (put on hold)

this will not be on the images but available as a saparate package (since it will only work on the new clamshells)
-- mplayer 1.0pre8 compiles with iwmmxt optimisations but segfaults after a few seconds when run sad.gif
xamindar
Nice to hear! I love this package, thanks.
Meanie
I might look into compiling stuff with iwmmxt optimisations to make apps run faster, but this would mean it would onlly work on the newer clamshell models...
amdonati
QUOTE(Meanie @ Sep 4 2006, 10:47 PM)
I might look into compiling stuff with iwmmxt optimisations to make apps run faster, but this would mean it would onlly work on the newer clamshell models...
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Please do not let us 6000 user out!
PdaXQTRom holds the main apps I am using on the Z (ie, Gnumeric).

During the installation process, I see the script looking for a games pack, is this somewhere in process (there are many games in pdaxqt I would be happy to see on the Z). :-)

Adalberto
xamindar
QUOTE(Meanie @ Sep 4 2006, 10:47 PM)
I might look into compiling stuff with iwmmxt optimisations to make apps run faster, but this would mean it would onlly work on the newer clamshell models...
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That would be interesting. I wonder how much of an improvement it would make. It seems the biggest speed killer at the moment is memory swapping.
Meanie
QUOTE(xamindar @ Sep 6 2006, 02:15 AM)
QUOTE(Meanie @ Sep 4 2006, 10:47 PM)
I might look into compiling stuff with iwmmxt optimisations to make apps run faster, but this would mean it would onlly work on the newer clamshell models...
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That would be interesting. I wonder how much of an improvement it would make. It seems the biggest speed killer at the moment is memory swapping.
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oh well, scratch this idea.. hmm, put it on hold for a while. too busy with other things...

I was planning on making a games image but never got to building it... time is limited unfortunately...but if I manage to build a games image, there won't be any adventure games that depend on speed and fast graphics...
Meanie
FYI, 0.8.2 is being uploaded atm. see first post for details...
Cresho
QUOTE(Meanie @ Sep 17 2006, 06:37 PM)
FYI, 0.8.2 is being uploaded atm. see first post for details...
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HOORAY!! cant wait to try it. biggrin.gif
omro
QUOTE(Meanie @ Sep 17 2006, 06:37 PM)
FYI, 0.8.2 is being uploaded atm. see first post for details...
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I have to say it's pretty brilliant! It's the best of both worlds :-)

I'd be interested to see if that tweak you were considering for the clamshell models really does increase the speed noticeably.
miskinis
QUOTE(cybersphinx @ Sep 19 2006, 02:08 PM)
... Hmmm.. I get 404s for the following three links: ...


The X is capitalized, you can go to the directory in the browser...

http://pdaxqtrom.thegrinder.ws/files/

And, for open office:

http://zaurus.daemons.gr/menaie/pdaxrom/
xamindar
I still get an error when trying to launch thunderbird.
 "cannot find mozilla runtime directory, exiting."
miskinis
QUOTE(xamindar @ Sep 21 2006, 01:09 PM)
I still get an error when trying to launch thunderbird. 
"cannot find mozilla runtime directory, exiting."
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Not sure if this will help. I found it in 5 seconds putting that error into google:

http://www.ale.org/archive/ale/ale-2004-12/msg00335.html

If it does work, it would be nice to post the results, so others will know what to do...
kenko
Hi Meanie, thanks for the great work again.

I've a problem. I ran the pdaxqtrom-install.sh, everyting go well until when it try to install zgcc2-95-3. It seems there's a mounting problem

mount: Mounting /hdd3/pdaxqtrom/zgcc2-95-3.squashfs on /mnt/zgcc failed: Invalid argument

/hdd3/pdaxqtrom is where I save the images. Could you give me any idea where could possibly went wrong? From df, the pdaXqtrom-base mount on /dev/loop1 and pdaXqtrom-app mount on /dev/loop2 and they're working fine.

~kenko
Meanie
QUOTE(kenko @ Sep 22 2006, 02:38 PM)
Hi Meanie, thanks for the great work again.

I've a problem. I ran the pdaxqtrom-install.sh, everyting go well until when it try to install zgcc2-95-3. It seems there's a mounting problem

mount: Mounting /hdd3/pdaxqtrom/zgcc2-95-3.squashfs on /mnt/zgcc failed: Invalid argument

/hdd3/pdaxqtrom is where I save the images.  Could you give me any idea where could possibly went wrong? From df, the pdaXqtrom-base mount on /dev/loop1 and pdaXqtrom-app mount on /dev/loop2 and they're working fine.

~kenko
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hmm. did you install automounter? it looks like you ran out of loop devices (the default being 2). automounter creates more loop devices, but the install script should had created more as well...
kenko
QUOTE(Meanie @ Sep 22 2006, 12:59 PM)
QUOTE(kenko @ Sep 22 2006, 02:38 PM)
Hi Meanie, thanks for the great work again.

I've a problem. I ran the pdaxqtrom-install.sh, everyting go well until when it try to install zgcc2-95-3. It seems there's a mounting problem

mount: Mounting /hdd3/pdaxqtrom/zgcc2-95-3.squashfs on /mnt/zgcc failed: Invalid argument

/hdd3/pdaxqtrom is where I save the images.  Could you give me any idea where could possibly went wrong? From df, the pdaXqtrom-base mount on /dev/loop1 and pdaXqtrom-app mount on /dev/loop2 and they're working fine.

~kenko
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hmm. did you install automounter? it looks like you ran out of loop devices (the default being 2). automounter creates more loop devices, but the install script should had created more as well...
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I just install the automounter 0.4.8 and re-run the install script. But it still comes out the same msg. Do I have to restart or remove pdaXqtrom first?
climber
Hi,

when I start putty in debug mode I got following error message:

qiv: error while loading shared libraries: libglib-1.2.so.0: cannot load shared object files: No such file or directory.

Does anybody have a idea what to do?

Thanks,
climber
ShiroiKuma
QUOTE(Meanie @ Sep 22 2006, 12:59 PM)
hmm. did you install automounter? it looks like you ran out of loop devices (the default being 2). automounter creates more loop devices, but the install script should had created more as well...

I think there is a problem with the squashfs image. The same cramfs image mounts no prob. I've extracted the files, because I needed to change a couple of lines in one of the files, since it was bombing when compiling lynx, then remade a squashfs image and this one mounts fine...
xamindar
QUOTE(kenko @ Sep 21 2006, 08:38 PM)
Hi Meanie, thanks for the great work again.

I've a problem. I ran the pdaxqtrom-install.sh, everyting go well until when it try to install zgcc2-95-3. It seems there's a mounting problem

mount: Mounting /hdd3/pdaxqtrom/zgcc2-95-3.squashfs on /mnt/zgcc failed: Invalid argument

/hdd3/pdaxqtrom is where I save the images.  Could you give me any idea where could possibly went wrong? From df, the pdaXqtrom-base mount on /dev/loop1 and pdaXqtrom-app mount on /dev/loop2 and they're working fine.

~kenko
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Just use the cramfs images, those ones all work. The same thing happens to me with the apps and java images if I use the squashfs ones. Weird.
Mecit
thanks for great work my question is about open office
when i try to run open office using
debrtd -x /hdd2/Programs/opt/OpenOffice/soffice (That is where installition script extracted openoffice.tgz) i get
starting minideb - root location is /hdd2/Programs
...mounting filesystems
...mounting /proc
...mounting /dev
...mounting /home
...mounting /tmp
...mounting /hdd3/Documents
...binding resolv.conf
...starting minideb.shell
/home/QtPalmtop/bın/debrunner: line 10: /hdd2/Programs/opt/OpenOffice/soffice: No such file or directory
...exiting minideb shell
...running instance(s): 2
minideb finished

what am i doing wrong?
xamindar
QUOTE(miskinis @ Sep 21 2006, 09:15 AM)
QUOTE(xamindar @ Sep 21 2006, 01:09 PM)
I still get an error when trying to launch thunderbird. 
"cannot find mozilla runtime directory, exiting."
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Not sure if this will help. I found it in 5 seconds putting that error into google:

http://www.ale.org/archive/ale/ale-2004-12/msg00335.html

If it does work, it would be nice to post the results, so others will know what to do...
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No it doesn't help, thanks though. mthat page is just asking the same question,with no solution.

Does anyone else get this?
zedkatuf2
Hi Meanie

I get DISPLAY environment variable errors when trying to do runxqtoo: see the attached image.
Meanie
QUOTE(zedkatuf2 @ Sep 30 2006, 08:12 PM)
Hi Meanie

I get DISPLAY environment variable errors when trying to do runxqtoo: see the attached image.
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it looks like your sudo config is not set to allow sudo without prompting for password. either change sudo to not prompt for password or run as root
Meanie
QUOTE(Mecit @ Sep 23 2006, 07:01 PM)
thanks for great work my question is about open office
when i try to run open office using
debrtd -x /hdd2/Programs/opt/OpenOffice/soffice (That is where installition script extracted openoffice.tgz) i get
starting minideb - root location is /hdd2/Programs
...mounting filesystems
...mounting /proc
...mounting /dev
...mounting /home
...mounting /tmp
...mounting /hdd3/Documents
...binding resolv.conf
...starting minideb.shell
/home/QtPalmtop/bın/debrunner: line 10: /hdd2/Programs/opt/OpenOffice/soffice: No such file or directory
...exiting minideb shell
...running instance(s): 2
minideb finished

what am i doing wrong?
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it is: debrtd -x /opt/OpenOffice/soffice
Meanie
QUOTE(xamindar @ Sep 29 2006, 02:59 AM)
QUOTE(miskinis @ Sep 21 2006, 09:15 AM)
QUOTE(xamindar @ Sep 21 2006, 01:09 PM)
I still get an error when trying to launch thunderbird. 
"cannot find mozilla runtime directory, exiting."
*


Not sure if this will help. I found it in 5 seconds putting that error into google:

http://www.ale.org/archive/ale/ale-2004-12/msg00335.html

If it does work, it would be nice to post the results, so others will know what to do...
*



No it doesn't help, thanks though. mthat page is just asking the same question,with no solution.

Does anyone else get this?
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yikes! i thought i fixed that already sad.gif
does firefox work? i suspect both firefox and thunderbird are broken for you.
is this on an upgrade or fresh install?
xamindar
QUOTE(Meanie @ Oct 5 2006, 05:35 AM)
QUOTE(xamindar @ Sep 29 2006, 02:59 AM)
QUOTE(miskinis @ Sep 21 2006, 09:15 AM)
QUOTE(xamindar @ Sep 21 2006, 01:09 PM)
I still get an error when trying to launch thunderbird. 
"cannot find mozilla runtime directory, exiting."
*


Not sure if this will help. I found it in 5 seconds putting that error into google:

http://www.ale.org/archive/ale/ale-2004-12/msg00335.html

If it does work, it would be nice to post the results, so others will know what to do...
*



No it doesn't help, thanks though. mthat page is just asking the same question,with no solution.

Does anyone else get this?
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yikes! i thought i fixed that already sad.gif
does firefox work? i suspect both firefox and thunderbird are broken for you.
is this on an upgrade or fresh install?
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Well, firefox works just fine and always has in your packages. It is an upgrade from the previous version. I had removed the previous version by the package manager, made sure the mounts were gone, then rebooted and installed the newer one.
Meanie
If anyone is using this on Cacko and having problems, make sure you download the latest patched/fixed 0.8.2 (squashfs/cramfs) image. The script for fixing Cacko libraries (cackofix) in the previous images has a bug that will destroy your Cacko setup. Make sure that cackofix is version 0.3 before executing it! you have been warned!
Snake
Hi Meanie!

QUOTE(Meanie @ Mar 5 2007, 06:43 PM)
If anyone is using this on Cacko and having problems, make sure you download the latest patched/fixed 0.8.2 (squashfs/cramfs) image. The script for fixing Cacko libraries (cackofix) in the previous images has a bug that will destroy your Cacko setup.  Make sure that cackofix is version 0.3 before executing it! you have been warned!
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Ah, that's I'm waiting for! biggrin.gif I will try this on Zaurus meeting next week - hope I don't have to reflash my Z like the last try with pdaXQtrom. ;-)

Great work again, Meanie!

Regards,
Frank
dougeeebear
Meanie, many thanks for this great application, it's really awesome.
I just installed the base and apps cramfs on my C1000 and it works very well, but it's a little slow because I have the images on my SD card.
Can you tell me if the Firefox 1.5 that is in the apps cramfs is available as a separate ipk, then I could do without the apps cramfs.
All I could find was Firefox 0.9-3.

EDIT:
I just found it.

Thanks,
Doug
dougeeebear
I would like to be able to mount pdaXqtrom manually when I need it instead of using the automounter-lite to mount it for me every time I reboot.
I think I would probably need to uninstall automounter-lite.
I have tried every possible command combinations I can think of and I can't get it to mount manually.
I always get a "failed: Block device required" error message.

I am using pdaXqtrom-base.cramfs and pdaXqtrom-apps.cramfs.
I have them located in my /mnt/card/pdaXqtrom folder.
If anyone can help me out with this I would really appreciate it.
Meanie
QUOTE(dougeeebear @ Sep 24 2007, 12:19 AM)
I would like to be able to mount pdaXqtrom manually when I need it instead of using the automounter-lite to mount it for me every time I reboot.
I think I would probably need to uninstall automounter-lite.
I have tried every possible command combinations I can think of and I can't get it to mount manually.
I always get a "failed: Block device required" error message.

I am using pdaXqtrom-base.cramfs and pdaXqtrom-apps.cramfs.
I have them located in my /mnt/card/pdaXqtrom folder.
If anyone can help me out with this I would really appreciate it.
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have you tried to use simply tried

mount pdaXqtrom-base.cramfs
mount pdaXqtrom-apps.cramfs

if you have the correct entries in /etc/fstab then the above should be sufficient. otherwise, you need to add
-o loop to the full mount command parameters....
dougeeebear
QUOTE(Meanie @ Sep 23 2007, 06:31 PM)
have you tried to use simply tried

mount pdaXqtrom-base.cramfs
mount pdaXqtrom-apps.cramfs
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Thank you ... that worked perfect.

I would have never thought a command that simple would work.
xamindar
QUOTE(Meanie @ Oct 5 2006, 05:35 AM) *
QUOTE(xamindar @ Sep 29 2006, 02:59 AM)
QUOTE(miskinis @ Sep 21 2006, 09:15 AM)
QUOTE(xamindar @ Sep 21 2006, 01:09 PM)
I still get an error when trying to launch thunderbird.
"cannot find mozilla runtime directory, exiting."
*


Not sure if this will help. I found it in 5 seconds putting that error into google:

http://www.ale.org/archive/ale/ale-2004-12/msg00335.html

If it does work, it would be nice to post the results, so others will know what to do...
*



No it doesn't help, thanks though. mthat page is just asking the same question,with no solution.

Does anyone else get this?
*



yikes! i thought i fixed that already sad.gif
does firefox work? i suspect both firefox and thunderbird are broken for you.
is this on an upgrade or fresh install?



Did this ever get fixed? I got an urge to set up thunderbird on my Z sense gmail now supports imap and then I was reminded of this error. Like before, firefox works but trying to launch thunderbird spits out this error. Is there a way I can fix it? Is it a simple linking problem or more than that? Thanks for any help.

Or, on an offtopic question. Is there a good zaurus email client that can do imap? The zaurus one doesn't have encryption so can't connect and the Kopie mail program seems to fail on any good amount of messages.
adf
sylpheed works with gmail I'm using pop, fthough- not sure about sylpheed&imap, though
xamindar
QUOTE(adf @ Nov 2 2007, 11:19 PM) *
sylpheed works with gmail I'm using pop, fthough- not sure about sylpheed&imap, though


Thanks, I'll give it a try.
Ryokio
This looks like a great project and I'd like to try it out. Unfortunately it looks like Meanie's website (http://pdaxqtrom.thegrinder.ws/) has been down for a week or so. I can't reach it or even get the name to resolve through DNS. Is anyone mirroring the installation files?

Thanks,
Ryokio

Zaurus C3200
Cacko 1.23
xamindar
QUOTE(Ryokio @ Feb 11 2008, 09:34 AM) *
This looks like a great project and I'd like to try it out. Unfortunately it looks like Meanie's website (http://pdaxqtrom.thegrinder.ws/) has been down for a week or so. I can't reach it or even get the name to resolve through DNS. Is anyone mirroring the installation files?

Thanks,
Ryokio

Zaurus C3200
Cacko 1.23



Here you go, I currently use it on my zaurus and love it. I just grabbed it off my zaurus and tared it for you. All you have to do is untar it on your zaurus and run that install script on the zaurus.

http://radnimax.org/misc/pdaxqtrom-0.8.2.tar

enjoy
Ryokio
This is a quick log of my trials and tribulations trying to get pdaxqtrom v0.8.2 working. It looks like it works, but only time and experimentation will tell if any further problems occur. Hopefully this will help the next person to come along.

Thanks to xamindar, I have the squashfs files. I set about trying to install these on my Zaurus C3200 with Cacko 1.23. I put them in /hdd3/pdaxqtrom-0.8.2, went to superuser, and ran ./pdaXqtrom-install.sh

I enabled my swapfile with a size of 64 MB.

The installation seems to work. When I reloaded the tabs, I had a X/Qt tab. When I tapped "Start X" I got a nice X-Windows display with a window manager at the top and an xterm window.

From the X/Qt tab in the regular Cacko launcher, I tapped Firefox. The hard disk light blinked for a while, but nothing happened. In the xterm window, I typed "firefox" and got the following error:

QUOTE
/usr/lib/firefox/lib/firefox-1.5/firefox-bin: error while loading the shared libraries: /home/QtPalmtop/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: g_option_context_new


I had heard this was a problem, so I ran the "xqtcleanup" program and ran "./pdaXqtrom-install.sh" again. The installation seemed to work fine again. When I tapped "Start X" I got the same nice X-Windows display as before.

At the xterm window, I typed "firefox" and got the following error:

QUOTE
/usr/lib/firefox/lib/firefox-1.5/firefox-bin: error while loading the shared libraries: /home/QtPalmtop/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: g_bsearch_array_new


I ran the "cackofix" script but it didn't seem to have any effect.

I searched around and found this page: http://www.solargate.ru/ustanovka-pdaxqtrom-v-cacko After running it through a Russian language translator, it seems they had the same problem. The page says to do this:

QUOTE
$ cd / home / QtPalmtop / lib
$ su $ su
# mv libgobject-2.0.so.0 libgobject-2.0.so.0.backup # mv libgobject-2.0.so.0 libgobject-2.0.so.0.backup
# ln -s /mnt/pdaXqrtom-base/opt/QtPalmtop/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 libgobject-2.0.so.0 # ln-s / mnt/pdaXqrtom-base/opt/QtPalmtop/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 libgobject-2.0.so.0
# mv libgmodule-2.0.so.0 libgmodule-2.0.so.0.backup # mv libgmodule-2.0.so.0 libgmodule-2.0.so.0.backup
# ln -s /mnt/pdaXqrtom-base/opt/QtPalmtop/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so.0 libgmodule-2.0.so.0 # ln-s / mnt/pdaXqrtom-base/opt/QtPalmtop/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so.0 libgmodule-2.0.so.0
# mv libgthread-2.0.so.0 libgmodule-2.0.so.0.backup # mv libgthread-2.0.so.0 libgmodule-2.0.so.0.backup
# ln -s /mnt/pdaXqrtom-base/opt/QtPalmtop/lib/libgthread-2.0.so.0 libgthread-2.0.so.0 # ln-s / mnt/pdaXqrtom-base/opt/QtPalmtop/lib/libgthread-2.0.so.0 libgthread-2.0.so.0


So I tried it. Then I typed "firefox" and waited. After much blinking of the hard drive light, I got the Firefox Import Wizard. I tell it to import nothing. And I wait.. and I wait. Gosh this is taking forever. I waited several minutes and still no error messages. I run "ps" and see that it hasn't crashed yet. I stopped X-Windows and tried it again. The same thing, waiting and waiting. I run "ps" and find that there are about 7 copies of "firefox-bin" running. I wait a while longer and things settle down. Now there are no copies of Firefox running at all. It looks like something is still wrong.

I tried running Firefox from the Cacko launcher. No Firefox import screen popped up. The hard disk light blinked for a long time. I could see copies of Firefox in the "ps" list. After a while, they all went away. This is really odd.

If it was an error message, I could look that up. Anyone have any advice on this one?

As a test, I tried to run a few other programs:

abiword:
QUOTE
(abiword:9688): Pango-WARNING **: No builtin or dynamically loaded modules were found. Pango will not work correctly. This probably means there was an error in the creation of:
'etc/pango/pango.modules'
You may be able to recreate this file by running pango-querymodules.
Aborted


So I ran "pango-querymodules > /etc/pango/pango.modules" as root and tried to run abiword again. WORKS!

dillo: WORKS!

dosbox: WORKS!

gnumeric: WORKS! (after fixing pango.modules)

gimp: WORKS! (after fixing pango.modules)

OpenOffice: Takes several minutes to load. WORKS! Even if it is incredibly slow.

firefox (another try): Beats on the hard drive for a while, spawns a couple copies of firefox-bin, then closes them all. Nothing ever comes up on the screen.
I figured it could be something to do with the settings so in my home directory, I renamed .mozilla to .mozilla.backup and tried running Firefox again. In "ps" I can see that about 6 copies of firefox-bin are run again and I see the Import Wizard pop up. This time I tell it to import from Opera and click Next. And I wait about a minute. And Firefox comes up! It WORKS! Horray! I even rebooted and tried it again. It does take Firefox about 2 minutes to start up, but it works!

Firefox is what I really wanted, so I'm going to declare victory for now.

-- Ryokio

Zaurus C3200
Cacko 1.23
xamindar
Wow, I think I remember that firefox issue. I had to copy my profile from my desktop to get it to work. It would never start with an empty profile. Weird.

I am curious to know if thunderbird works for you. I get similar errors in thunderbird and it doesn't start. As far as I know, every other program works for me as well, just not thunderbird.
Ryokio
QUOTE(xamindar @ Feb 20 2008, 03:20 AM) *
I am curious to know if thunderbird works for you. I get similar errors in thunderbird and it doesn't start. As far as I know, every other program works for me as well, just not thunderbird.


I ran "Start X" and got the nice X-Windows display and the aterm window. I typed "thunderbird". I seemed to get some warning messages about "_disabledObsoleteExtensions" and stuff about "loading the extensions database" but after a while of hitting the hard disk, the Import Wizard popped up. I told it not to import anything and Thunderbird came up. It seemed to be working.

It immediately popped up a setup wizard trying to get me to configure my mail account. I played with it a little, but I really didn't want to get my mail account tied to it so I didn't continue. The only really bad thing was that the Cancel/OK buttons were below the bottom of the screen and I didn't know how to move the window up. It seemed to be working just fine.

-- Ryokio
Zaurus C3200
Cacko 1.23
xamindar
Thanks for the info. I wonder why it doesn't work on mine....oh well, I have been using sylpheed to do the little mail checking I do on my zaurus.


QUOTE(Ryokio @ Feb 21 2008, 09:58 AM) *
The only really bad thing was that the Cancel/OK buttons were below the bottom of the screen and I didn't know how to move the window up. It seemed to be working just fine.


I believe if you hold down the home key and press a direction key it will move the window around so you can find the buttons if it is too large for the screen.
xamindar
While the page on this is listed here still, the actual files are gone.

Thanks to Antikx, I have been allowed to post them up somewhere, so you can get it here:

pdaxqtrom-0.8.2.tar.gz
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