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CoreDump
Hello all,

as of today, Hentges ROMs will use a different versioning system which is independent from OpenZaurus releases / versions, please read Versioning.txt for details.

You can find snapshots for Akita, Spitz and Collie here:
EDIT:http://hentges.net/tmp/snapshots/Hentges-ROM/1.0.0/20061030/

and for Poodle here:
http://hentges.net/tmp/snapshots/Hentges-ROM/1.0.0/20061104/

Known Problems so far:

All devices:
- none at this time

SL-C3x00 + SL-C1000 aka Spitz & Akita:
- The hostap_cs WIFI driver does not survive a suspend / resume cycle
- cat some_soundfile.raw > /dev/dsp does no longer work ( mplayer & friends still produce sound )

SL-5500 + SL-5000 aka Collie:
- mplayer fails to start with libmad error
- ipkg.conf points to a missing machine feed

SL-5600 aka Poodle:
- The hostap_cs WIFI driver does not survive a suspend / resume cycle
- Sound is working but distorted,
- GPE's key-bindings are incomplete
alban42
QUOTE(CoreDump @ Oct 23 2006, 04:17 PM)
Hello all,

as of today, Hentges ROMs will use a different versioning system which is independent from OpenZaurus releases / versions, please read Versioning.txt for details.

You can find snapshots for Akita and Spitz here: http://hentges.net/tmp/snapshots/Hentges-ROM/1.0.0/20061023/

Known Problems so far:

- The hostap_cs WIFI driver does not survive a suspend / resume cycle
- cat some_soundfile.raw > /dev/dsp does no longer work ( mplayer & friends still produce sound )
*



More For The List :-

Games Billardz Display is Corrupt
Zaurus 3200 display does not rotate automaticaly when the screen is turned

How do I Force a App To Display Rotated & Full Screen ??

The Daylight Savings Time is Not Set Correctly
(Its Correct For London But is Still GMT)

XMMS screen is tiny (2cm Square) it works though

Can Some Point Me TowardsThe Bugtracker

Great rom though, portabase is twice as fast as before

all i neeed now is to install kopi

tkckapital works but it needs resize & rotate !!
CoreDump
QUOTE(alban42 @ Oct 24 2006, 05:19 PM)
More For The List :-

Games Billardz Display is Corrupt
Zaurus 3200 display does not rotate automaticaly when the screen is turned

How do I Force a App To Display Rotated & Full Screen  ??

The Daylight Savings Time is Not Set Correctly
(Its Correct For London But is Still GMT)

XMMS screen is tiny (2cm Square) it works though

Can Some Point Me TowardsThe Bugtracker

Great rom though, portabase is twice as fast as before

all i neeed now is to install  kopi 

tkckapital works but it needs resize & rotate !!
*


Ah, Opie is acting up sad.gif
That could be a problem since Opie is unmaintained. I will have a look.
tkc Apps (ie: Sharp-ROM apps) are completely unsupported, sorry.
alban42
QUOTE(CoreDump @ Oct 25 2006, 10:41 AM)
QUOTE(alban42 @ Oct 24 2006, 05:19 PM)


More For The List :-

Games Billardz Display is Corrupt
Zaurus 3200 display does not rotate automaticaly when the screen is turned

How do I Force a App To Display Rotated & Full Screen  ??

The Daylight Savings Time is Not Set Correctly
(Its Correct For London But is Still GMT)

XMMS screen is tiny (2cm Square) it works though

Can Some Point Me TowardsThe Bugtracker

Great rom though, portabase is twice as fast as before

all i neeed now is to install  kopi 
tkckapital works but it needs resize & rotate !!
*


Ah, Opie is acting up sad.gif
That could be a problem since Opie is unmaintained. I will have a look.
tkc Apps (ie: Sharp-ROM apps) are completely unsupported, sorry.
*




OK I Know about TheTkcStuff Being Unsuppported, I cannot Get The Kompany To Port it to OE It's All thats Stopping Me Going To OE
I have had To Move From The Sharp Rom As I Had No Ram Left

THE SHARP ROM Would Randomly Kill Apps Due to Low Memory


On Hentages rom V1
Running TkcKapital (RSS Size 32MB Ouch )
Kopi 1 YearsWorth Of Appointments & data (RSS Size 20Mb)
PortaBase (It has 2000 Entrys & Took 20 Secs to Load RSS Size 6.2Mb.)

I Installed The Upgrades From The Feed & It Seems To Have Cured The Timezone Bug


Also Why is OE not Using the Flash ERam ?? Using The Hdd Cuts Down on The
Battery Life

Thanks For Any Comments The Rom Seems Good as I Can LoadAllThe Above
koen
QUOTE(alban42 @ Oct 25 2006, 01:32 PM)
QUOTE(CoreDump @ Oct 25 2006, 10:41 AM)
QUOTE(alban42 @ Oct 24 2006, 05:19 PM)


More For The List :-

Games Billardz Display is Corrupt
Zaurus 3200 display does not rotate automaticaly when the screen is turned

How do I Force a App To Display Rotated & Full Screen  ??

The Daylight Savings Time is Not Set Correctly
(Its Correct For London But is Still GMT)

XMMS screen is tiny (2cm Square) it works though

Can Some Point Me TowardsThe Bugtracker

Great rom though, portabase is twice as fast as before

all i neeed now is to install  kopi 
tkckapital works but it needs resize & rotate !!
*


Ah, Opie is acting up sad.gif
That could be a problem since Opie is unmaintained. I will have a look.
tkc Apps (ie: Sharp-ROM apps) are completely unsupported, sorry.
*




OK I Know about TheTkcStuff Being Unsuppported, I cannot Get The Kompany To Port it to OE It's All thats Stopping Me Going To OE
I have had To Move From The Sharp Rom As I Had No Ram Left

THE SHARP ROM Would Randomly Kill Apps Due to Low Memory


On Hentages rom V1
Running TkcKapital (RSS Size 32MB Ouch )
Kopi 1 YearsWorth Of Appointments & data (RSS Size 20Mb)
PortaBase (It has 2000 Entrys & Took 20 Secs to Load RSS Size 6.2Mb.)

I Installed The Upgrades From The Feed & It Seems To Have Cured The Timezone Bug


Also Why is OE not Using the Flash ERam ?? Using The Hdd Cuts Down on The
Battery Life

Thanks For Any Comments The Rom Seems Good as I Can LoadAllThe Above
*



OE is a buildsystem, not a distribution.

AnD StOp WiTh ThE ExCeSsIvE CaPiTaLiZaTiOn PlEaSe
CoreDump
QUOTE(koen @ Oct 25 2006, 03:58 PM)
AnD StOp WiTh ThE ExCeSsIvE CaPiTaLiZaTiOn PlEaSe
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The GP is probably not a native english speaker. Different languages use different capitalization rules.
Hrw
Maybe not, but he use ADSL service in England and even has England present in location...
alban42
QUOTE(koen @ Oct 25 2006, 02:58 PM)
QUOTE(alban42 @ Oct 25 2006, 01:32 PM)
QUOTE(CoreDump @ Oct 25 2006, 10:41 AM)
QUOTE(alban42 @ Oct 24 2006, 05:19 PM)


More For The List :-

Games Billardz Display is Corrupt
Zaurus 3200 display does not rotate automaticaly when the screen is turned

How do I Force a App To Display Rotated & Full Screen  ??

The Daylight Savings Time is Not Set Correctly
(Its Correct For London But is Still GMT)

XMMS screen is tiny (2cm Square) it works though

Can Some Point Me TowardsThe Bugtracker

Great rom though, portabase is twice as fast as before

all i neeed now is to install  kopi 
tkckapital works but it needs resize & rotate !!
*


Ah, Opie is acting up sad.gif
That could be a problem since Opie is unmaintained. I will have a look.
tkc Apps (ie: Sharp-ROM apps) are completely unsupported, sorry.
*




OK I Know about TheTkcStuff Being Unsuppported, I cannot Get The Kompany To Port it to OE It's All thats Stopping Me Going To OE
I have had To Move From The Sharp Rom As I Had No Ram Left

THE SHARP ROM Would Randomly Kill Apps Due to Low Memory


On Hentages rom V1
Running TkcKapital (RSS Size 32MB Ouch )
Kopi 1 YearsWorth Of Appointments & data (RSS Size 20Mb)
PortaBase (It has 2000 Entrys & Took 20 Secs to Load RSS Size 6.2Mb.)

I Installed The Upgrades From The Feed & It Seems To Have Cured The Timezone Bug


Also Why is OE not Using the Flash ERam ?? Using The Hdd Cuts Down on The
Battery Life

Thanks For Any Comments The Rom Seems Good as I Can LoadAllThe Above
*



OE is a buildsystem, not a distribution.

AnD StOp WiTh ThE ExCeSsIvE CaPiTaLiZaTiOn PlEaSe
*




Ouch ... oops point taken & I should have said OZ not OE
CoreDump
Well, I sat down and checked out Opie on Akita today, so here goes:

QUOTE(alban42 @ Oct 24 2006, 05:19 PM)
More For The List :-

Games Billardz Display is Corrupt


There's no corruption here

QUOTE
Zaurus 3200 display does not rotate automaticaly when the screen is turned


Works fine here

QUOTE
How do I Force a App To Display Rotated & Full Screen  ??


No idea.

QUOTE
XMMS screen is tiny (2cm Square) it works though


Known bug and non-trivial to fix.

QUOTE
Can Some Point Me TowardsThe Bugtracker


Here's a URL which lists all bug trackers: http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/links/

QUOTE
Great rom though, portabase is twice as fast as before


That is good to hear =)

QUOTE
tkckapital works but it needs resize & rotate !!
*
dkm
QUOTE(CoreDump @ Oct 23 2006, 10:17 AM)
Hello all,

as of today, Hentges ROMs will use a different versioning system which is independent from OpenZaurus releases / versions, please read Versioning.txt for details.

You can find snapshots for Akita and Spitz here: http://hentges.net/tmp/snapshots/Hentges-ROM/1.0.0/20061023/

Known Problems so far:

- The hostap_cs WIFI driver does not survive a suspend / resume cycle
- cat some_soundfile.raw > /dev/dsp does no longer work ( mplayer & friends still produce sound )
*

I just installed the image on my terrier, and am tinkering. I found what I think are too small errors in the package manager feeds list for the spitz roms. All the feeds list 3.5.4.1 except the ./feed/upgrades/machine/spitz & ./feed/machine/spitz. When I browsed the feeds, there appears not to be spitz directories on machine under 3.5.4.2, just 3.5.4.1. So when you run ipkg update, you get a 401 error on these two feeds, and then a follow on error because of this.

I changed the 3.5.4.2 to 3.5.4.1 in the ipkg.conf & no more errors on those two feeds.

Now there is just an error for the oz.henges.net/hentges-feeds/1.0.0/upgrades, but I expect that this will remain until that feed gets put up as there appears to be only 3.5.4.1 not 1.0.0 feeds in that directory.

Thanks for your continued great work- I've been excitedly waiting to try your rom on my terrier.
Zismylaptop
Coredump,

You once wrote (in the old howtos) a method for running OPIE & GPE at the same time. Unfortunately, when it was transferred to the howtos of the open zaurus forums, it lost all its links so it's quite useless. This, of course, was for folks with older Zs who need to use altboot. I never quite got to that with my Tosa before the battery issue drove me to buy a Terrier. Now I need usable software for it.

I bet it is super easy to get all the files and processes to work together when you have 6 gig of hard disk on a Terrier. Could you reiterate your earlier instructions for this environment?

Thanks.
CoreDump
QUOTE(dkm @ Oct 27 2006, 02:28 AM)
I just installed the image on my terrier, and am tinkering.  I found what I think are too small errors in the package manager feeds list for the spitz roms.  All the feeds list 3.5.4.1 except the ./feed/upgrades/machine/spitz & ./feed/machine/spitz.  When I browsed the feeds, there appears not to be  spitz directories on machine under 3.5.4.2, just 3.5.4.1.  So when you run ipkg update, you get a 401 error on these two feeds, and then a follow on error  because of this.


Right, since there will be no 3.5.4.2 for SL-Cxx00, these directories are indeed missing. Thanks for spotting that.

QUOTE
I changed the 3.5.4.2 to 3.5.4.1 in the ipkg.conf & no more errors on those two feeds.

Now there is just an error for the oz.henges.net/hentges-feeds/1.0.0/upgrades, but I expect that this will remain until that feed gets put up as there appears to be only 3.5.4.1 not 1.0.0 feeds in that directory.


I'll create empty feed-lists at said URL to remove the error messages.

QUOTE
Thanks for your continued great work- I've been excitedly waiting to try your rom on my terrier.
*


You're welomce smile.gif
CoreDump
QUOTE(Zismylaptop @ Oct 27 2006, 04:59 AM)
Coredump,

You once wrote (in the old howtos) a method for running OPIE & GPE at the same time. Unfortunately, when it was transferred to the howtos of the open zaurus forums, it lost all its links so it's quite useless. This, of course, was for folks with older Zs who need to use altboot. I never quite got to that with my Tosa before the battery issue drove me to buy a Terrier. Now I need usable software for it.

I bet it is super easy to get all the files and processes to work together when you have 6 gig of hard disk on a Terrier. Could you reiterate your earlier instructions for this environment?

Thanks.
*


Will have a look when I get home.

Edit: Please post the URL of the HowTo
jerrybme
This one was written by koen: http://wiki.openzaurus.org/HowTos/OPIE_and_GPE

It works as I've used it.

Cheers
CoreDump
A new snapshot for SL-Cxx00 is online: http://hentges.net/tmp/snapshots/Hentges-ROM/1.0.0/20061027/
koen
QUOTE(jerrybme @ Oct 27 2006, 05:45 PM)
This one was written by koen: http://wiki.openzaurus.org/HowTos/OPIE_and_GPE

It works as I've used it.

Cheers
*


I still wonder where that 'by koen' comes from. I only ran Opie on my h3870 2 years ago for like 2 days, just to check it it boots.
CoreDump
QUOTE(koen @ Oct 28 2006, 11:42 AM)
QUOTE(jerrybme @ Oct 27 2006, 05:45 PM)
This one was written by koen: http://wiki.openzaurus.org/HowTos/OPIE_and_GPE

It works as I've used it.

Cheers
*


I still wonder where that 'by koen' comes from. I only ran Opie on my h3870 2 years ago for like 2 days, just to check it it boots.
*



I was kinda wondering myself why "Mr. GPE" would write a Opie guide biggrin.gif
danboid
re XMMS too small bug:

Does this mean that the 'Double Size' option doesn't work? What happened there then as I remember someone saying they got it to work, I think it was XorA, but I can't remember his solution as I had already uninstalled OZ when they worked it out. Are there no other graphical music (ogg and MP3) players in the OZ feed?

Does Hentges for spitz come with an app that lets you pick which card or partition you want your PC to use as a USB storage device?
CoreDump
QUOTE(danboid @ Oct 28 2006, 03:01 PM)
re XMMS too small bug:

Does this mean that the 'Double Size' option doesn't work? What happened there then as I remember someone saying they got it to work, I think it was XorA, but I can't remember his solution as I had already uninstalled OZ when they worked it out.


Never heard of it.

QUOTE
Are there no other graphical music (ogg and MP3) players in the OZ feed?


Not to my knowledge but I could be wrong.

QUOTE
Does Hentges for spitz come with an app that lets you pick which card or partition you want your PC to use as a USB storage device?
*


There was a script for kernel 2.4 to o that. However, it was never ported to kernel 2.6
koen
QUOTE(CoreDump @ Oct 28 2006, 05:47 PM)
QUOTE
Does Hentges for spitz come with an app that lets you pick which card or partition you want your PC to use as a USB storage device?
*


There was a script for kernel 2.4 to o that. However, it was never ported to kernel 2.6
*



Apart from it being in gpe-conf by default?

http://projects.linuxtogo.org/plugins/scms...y=rev&view=auto
CoreDump
QUOTE(koen @ Oct 28 2006, 08:15 PM)
QUOTE(CoreDump @ Oct 28 2006, 05:47 PM)
QUOTE
Does Hentges for spitz come with an app that lets you pick which card or partition you want your PC to use as a USB storage device?
*


There was a script for kernel 2.4 to o that. However, it was never ported to kernel 2.6
*



Apart from it being in gpe-conf by default?

http://projects.linuxtogo.org/plugins/scms...y=rev&view=auto
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Last time I checked the gpe-conf applet it wasn't ported to 2.6 either laugh.gif
koen
QUOTE(CoreDump @ Oct 28 2006, 08:40 PM)
QUOTE(koen @ Oct 28 2006, 08:15 PM)
QUOTE(CoreDump @ Oct 28 2006, 05:47 PM)
QUOTE
Does Hentges for spitz come with an app that lets you pick which card or partition you want your PC to use as a USB storage device?
*


There was a script for kernel 2.4 to o that. However, it was never ported to kernel 2.6
*



Apart from it being in gpe-conf by default?

http://projects.linuxtogo.org/plugins/scms...y=rev&view=auto
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Last time I checked the gpe-conf applet it wasn't ported to 2.6 either laugh.gif
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ehm... from the above link:

CODE
/*
 ToDo
 - Support for kernel 2.4?
 - Support for USB host?
 - file requestor
 - no instant apply
*/


The applet is actually 2.6 only.
CoreDump
QUOTE(koen @ Oct 28 2006, 11:19 PM)
The applet is actually 2.6 only.
*


Either that is a completely new applet or it was 2.4-only in the past.
The 2.4-only thing was confirmed by a dev in #gpe at the time.
koen
QUOTE(CoreDump @ Oct 29 2006, 09:25 AM)
QUOTE(koen @ Oct 28 2006, 11:19 PM)
The applet is actually 2.6 only.
*


Either that is a completely new applet or it was 2.4-only in the past.
The 2.4-only thing was confirmed by a dev in #gpe at the time.
*



You're mixing up 'pcmcia' and 'usb'. pH5, who wrote that applet never had a 2.4 device smile.gif
CoreDump
I'm preparing Colle images right now.
Also, I'll run first tests with my "upgrade" feed.

If everything goes well, users should be able to upgrade their installation with "ipkg upgrade" to a new release.
simbaB
Are there going to be poodle images? I had Opie working pretty well on my poodle with the Hentges ROM of 3.5.4.2-rc2, I flashed GPE to test it and now I want to go back, but I cannot find images to do that.

Too bad Opie is unmaintained sad.gif I'd like to use GPE but it doesn't seem ready for prime time yet.
CoreDump
QUOTE(simbaB @ Oct 29 2006, 05:17 PM)
Are there going to be poodle images? I had Opie working pretty well on my poodle with the Hentges ROM of 3.5.4.2-rc2, I flashed GPE to test it and now I want to go back, but I cannot find images to do that.

Too bad Opie is unmaintained sad.gif I'd like to use GPE but it doesn't seem ready for prime time yet.
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Poodle will be part of the final release. I don't have any ETA on first images tho.
chrisl
QUOTE(CoreDump @ Oct 29 2006, 08:18 AM)
I'm preparing Colle images right now.
Also, I'll run first tests with my "upgrade" feed.

If everything goes well, users should be able to upgrade their installation with "ipkg upgrade" to a new release.
*


I am excited that you are doing the Collie images. Perhaps soon I can switch back to OZ once and for all and trash my Cacko arrangement. I'm tired of having a machine that is so slow that my wife teases me that using paper and pencil is more efficient.

Chris--
CoreDump
QUOTE(chrisl @ Oct 29 2006, 09:09 PM)
QUOTE(CoreDump @ Oct 29 2006, 08:18 AM)
I'm preparing Colle images right now.
Also, I'll run first tests with my "upgrade" feed.

If everything goes well, users should be able to upgrade their installation with "ipkg upgrade" to a new release.
*


I am excited that you are doing the Collie images. Perhaps soon I can switch back to OZ once and for all and trash my Cacko arrangement. I'm tired of having a machine that is so slow that my wife teases me that using paper and pencil is more efficient.

Chris--
*


laugh.gif

Well, IMO paper & pencil are indeed usually faster than a PDA for many things. But where's the fun in that? smile.gif

Akita, Spitz and Collie images are uploading. Also a first true "hentges feed" (~200Mb) is uploading and should be available in 6-7hrs.

If everything goes as planned, users can upgrade their release w/ ipkg. Flashing will be mostly optional (tho might still be required for not-so-simple hacks (*cough* libsdl *cough*) and kernel upgrades)

The hentges feed consists of one common feed (type: *_arm.ipk) for all machines
and a machine-specific feed (*_${MACHINE}.ipk). In theory these feeds are an exact mirror of my feed@home from which the images are built.

Don't get me wrong: the hentges feed will be for OS-upgrades only! You still need the (pre-configured) OZ feeds to install new apps.

If this works out, you'll see far more upgrades than before since I won't have to upload ~1Gb of data for every release anymore biggrin.gif
CoreDump
New images for SL-Cxx00 and Collie are online. There has been a typo in ipkg.conf (sigh), please
ipkg update / ipkg upgrade to install a hotfix.
CoreDump
QUOTE(CoreDump @ Oct 31 2006, 03:31 AM)
New images for SL-Cxx00 and Collie are online. There has been a typo in ipkg.conf (sigh), please
ipkg update / ipkg upgrade to install a hotfix.
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Ah the joys of error-proofing. While the hotfix from above works nicely once installed, it does depend on a certain feed layout. Currently it prevents me from rsyncing the live-feed with my feed @ home sad.gif

I'll write a little script called "dist-upgrade" which only job it will be to upgrade the installation. It will be completely independent of /etc/ipkg.conf (ie: It will even work on badly damaged systems), it will be able to install ipkg-independent "hotfixes" and it will be hardened against most types of failure.
CoreDump
QUOTE(CoreDump @ Oct 31 2006, 05:19 PM)
QUOTE(CoreDump @ Oct 31 2006, 03:31 AM)
New images for SL-Cxx00 and Collie are online. There has been a typo in ipkg.conf (sigh), please
ipkg update / ipkg upgrade to install a hotfix.
*


Ah the joys of error-proofing. While the hotfix from above works nicely once installed, it does depend on a certain feed layout. Currently it prevents me from rsyncing the live-feed with my feed @ home sad.gif

I'll write a little script called "dist-upgrade" which only job it will be to upgrade the installation. It will be completely independent of /etc/ipkg.conf (ie: It will even work on badly damaged systems), it will be able to install ipkg-independent "hotfixes" and it will be hardened against most types of failure.
*



Please, everyone using the images from above download and install the dist-upgrade package for your machine:

EDIT: Updated packages:
http://oz.hentges.net/hentges-feeds/1.0.x/....2-r0_akita.ipk
http://oz.hentges.net/hentges-feeds/1.0.x/....2-r0_spitz.ipk
http://oz.hentges.net/hentges-feeds/1.0.x/...2-r0_collie.ipk


You can then upgrade your installation to 1.0.0-wip-20061101 by running "dist-upgrade" in a console.
samac
Coredump

I am a little confused. Before dist-upgrade feeds existed for .../1.0.x/common and machine upgrades, after dist upgrade they didn't.

Also .../3.5.4.1/feed/machine/collie does not exist.

Could you list the feeds that are relevant for each machine, are we meant to use the ../1.0.x/ or not?

samac
Meanie
QUOTE(samac @ Nov 2 2006, 09:35 AM)
Coredump

I am a little confused. Before dist-upgrade feeds existed for .../1.0.x/common and machine upgrades, after dist upgrade they didn't.

Also .../3.5.4.1/feed/machine/collie does not exist.

Could you list the feeds that are relevant for each machine, are we meant to use the ../1.0.x/ or not?

samac
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The clamshell models have OZ 3.5.4.1, the other older models have OZ 3.5.4.2

I am going to try the new hentges as soon as I get everything backed up.
CoreDump
QUOTE(samac @ Nov 2 2006, 01:35 AM)
Coredump

I am a little confused. Before dist-upgrade feeds existed for .../1.0.x/common and machine upgrades, after dist upgrade they didn't.

Also .../3.5.4.1/feed/machine/collie does not exist.

Could you list the feeds that are relevant for each machine, are we meant to use the ../1.0.x/ or not?

samac
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The hentges feeds are for distribution upgrades only. The "dist-upgrade" tool will always use the correct feeds, independent of ipkg.conf.

Adding the hentges feeds to ipkg.conf would be a waste of ressources (since ipkg is slow enough already)
samac
QUOTE
The hentges feeds are for distribution upgrades only. The "dist-upgrade" tool will always use the correct feeds, independent of ipkg.conf.

Adding the hentges feeds to ipkg.conf would be a waste of ressources (since ipkg is slow enough already)


OK that makes sense.

Thanks

Samac
Hrw
QUOTE(Meanie @ Nov 2 2006, 05:47 AM)
The clamshell models have OZ 3.5.4.1, the other older models have OZ 3.5.4.2
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Collie latest is 3.5.4
clamshells latest is 3.5.4.1
poodle/tosa latest is 3.5.4.2

For collie I suggest using hentges version of OZ.
CoreDump
QUOTE(Hrw @ Nov 3 2006, 11:40 AM)
QUOTE(Meanie @ Nov 2 2006, 05:47 AM)
The clamshell models have OZ 3.5.4.1, the other older models have OZ 3.5.4.2
*


Collie latest is 3.5.4
clamshells latest is 3.5.4.1
poodle/tosa latest is 3.5.4.2

For collie I suggest using hentges version of OZ.
*



Maybe we should do a 3.5.5 for all devices? That way we don't have some devices bit-rotting away.

OTOH I belive that staged releases (3.5.4 = Collie, 3.5.4.1 = clamshells etc) are a very developer friendly way of doing things. One can sit down and concentrate on a specific model / series and make it release-ready, ignoring any other device completly.

The current problem I see is that
a) Only very few people are actively working on OpenZaurus directly
b ) Of those that do work on OZ, most would be happy to let SL-5x00 (ie: Collie and Poodle) die a silent death.

The a) part could only be helped by motivated and knowledgeable Linux users joining the project (and yes, installing and using OE is required)
The b ) part is a little bit more difficult.

Devs usually avoid SL-5x00 like the plaque because:
- The small rootfs (15-18Mb) make them a PITA to work with
- The screen is sub-standard and hard to read compared to the clamshells
- The screen is only QVGA (320x240)
- The keyboard is pretty bad compared to the clamshells

So on one hand we have many users still owning and using these devices, but OTOH we have very few devs that care about them.

Over the next few days, I'll convert Poodle to an SD-only rootfs. And with SD-only I mean SD-only. Hentges will no longer offer flash installations!. Poodles will get a tweaked kernel that boots the SD directly, and a tuned updater.sh which installs rootfs tarballs onto any inserted SD card (just like the spitz installer does for the MicroDrive).

If the above works out, it will make dev work a lot easier with Poodle since we no longer need to care about not-filling up the rootfs.

Why Poodle and not Collie? Simple: because Poodle is already running kernel 2.6.
CoreDump
Here's a shot of the new updater.sh I wrote for Poodle:



This version allows for root-on-sd which the old one could not handle.
CoreDump
The new Poodle SD images are online:
http://hentges.net/tmp/snapshots/Hentges-ROM/1.0.0/20061104/

The rootfs is installed onto the first partition of your SD card. You may repartition the card if you have a lot of space but partition one should not be smaller than 150Mb


Installation Instructions:
- Download a rootfs.tar.gz from the "tarballs" directory and rename it to sdimage1.tgz
- Download the kernel and rename it to zImage.bin (flashing the kernel is required)
- Copy the new updater.sh (an older one won't work!), gnu-tar , zImage.bin and sdimage1.tgz to a CF card
- Start the flashing process as usual.

Please keep in mind:
- updater.sh was written from scratch and may contain bugs. Please post about any problems during instalation.
- updater.sh (and thus the sdimage installer) runs under an ancient SHARP kernel 2.4. This kernel contains
a patch to disallow "async" SD/MMC access. Because of this the installation may take longer than 30 minutes! There is nothing I can do about this (short of replacing the updater mini-OS)
You may extract the rootfs tarball on partition one of your SD card manually (as root!) which can be a lot faster (depends on your distribution)
- The current GPE image needs some more love. It is basically a copy of the "spitz" clamshell GPE image (containing Firefox, xscreensaver etc). This was not intended and will be fixed eventually.
Greg2
QUOTE(CoreDump @ Nov 5 2006, 09:35 AM)
- Copy the new updater.sh (an older one won't work!), zImage.bin and sdimage1.tgz to a CF card

and gnu-tar?

d/l'ing now

Thanks, CoreDump smile.gif

Greg
CoreDump
QUOTE(Greg2 @ Nov 5 2006, 05:07 PM)
QUOTE(CoreDump @ Nov 5 2006, 09:35 AM)
- Copy the new updater.sh (an older one won't work!), zImage.bin and sdimage1.tgz to a CF card

and gnu-tar?

d/l'ing now

Thanks, CoreDump smile.gif

Greg
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Indeed biggrin.gif Fixed!
CoreDump
I've updated the distro feeds, please run "dist-upgrade" from the console.
ennui719
Hi CoreDump,
Thanks for the work on Poodle. I flashed this new image and I'm sure it works fine, but on first boot, I get the pop up asking me what I want to do with the detected SD card, but it is too big for the screen and is immovible. I can't seem to use the arrow keys or tab to get to the "OK" button to make it go away. Any ideas?

Thanks,
ennui719

edit: Oh I see you are already on this... see post http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=21910
samac
QUOTE
I've updated the distro feeds, please run "dist-upgrade" from the console.

dist-upgrade works great, but I had a couple of problems.

1. The security module kept asking for the pin number whilst the upgrade was trying to calibrate, I eventually had to ssh in from my main box, remove security and reboot the collie.

2. dist-upgrade does not respect user alterations, it re-installed packages that I had removed, and it changed my decorative settings back to default.

samac
CoreDump
QUOTE(samac @ Nov 7 2006, 06:39 PM)
QUOTE
I've updated the distro feeds, please run "dist-upgrade" from the console.

dist-upgrade works great, but I had a couple of problems.

1. The security module kept asking for the pin number whilst the upgrade was trying to calibrate, I eventually had to ssh in from my main box, remove security and reboot the collie.


I should have been more clear. By "console" I meant the VT (ie: exit Opie / GPE)

QUOTE
2. dist-upgrade does not respect user alterations, it re-installed packages that I had removed, and it changed my decorative settings back to default.

samac
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Interesting. Sounds like some hentges-* packages do not like beeing reinstalled biggrin.gif
Thanks for spotting it, I'll have a look.

Could you give me an example which packages were re-installed after you had removed them?
CoreDump
QUOTE(ennui719 @ Nov 7 2006, 05:56 PM)
Hi CoreDump,
  Thanks for the work on Poodle. I flashed this new image and I'm sure it works fine, but on first boot, I get the pop up asking me what I want to do with the detected SD card, but it is too big for the screen and is immovible. I can't seem to use the arrow keys or tab to get to the "OK" button to make it go away. Any ideas?

Thanks,
  ennui719

edit:  Oh I see you are already on this... see post http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=21910
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Well, what can I say. This bug in Opie is driving me NUTS.
Greg2
QUOTE(CoreDump @ Nov 7 2006, 01:27 PM)
Well, what can I say. This bug in Opie is driving me NUTS.

CoreDump

The simple hack I used was to include a copy of '.opiestorage.cf' in your hentges-xxx.rootfs.tar.gz smile.gif

Your dist-upgrade works very well for me.

Thanks

Greg
CoreDump
QUOTE(Greg2 @ Nov 7 2006, 09:19 PM)
QUOTE(CoreDump @ Nov 7 2006, 01:27 PM)
Well, what can I say. This bug in Opie is driving me NUTS.

CoreDump

The simple hack I used was to include a copy of '.opiestorage.cf' in your hentges-xxx.rootfs.tar.gz smile.gif

Your dist-upgrade works very well for me.

Thanks

Greg
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Heh good one biggrin.gif
That however fails as soon as the user has a second partition on that card (which will be mounted as /media/card and OF COURSE trigger this blasted bug)

The worst part is that Hentges already had a work-around for this idiocy in place, which somehow stopped working about a year ago *sigh*.

I guess I'll use some udev magic to install ".opiestorage.cf" where needed.

EDIT:

By the way, the next upgrade will pull in a working auto-fsck of the rootfs on boot for Poodle and Spitz.
hvontres
QUOTE(CoreDump @ Nov 7 2006, 01:06 PM)
QUOTE(Greg2 @ Nov 7 2006, 09:19 PM)
QUOTE(CoreDump @ Nov 7 2006, 01:27 PM)
Well, what can I say. This bug in Opie is driving me NUTS.

CoreDump

The simple hack I used was to include a copy of '.opiestorage.cf' in your hentges-xxx.rootfs.tar.gz smile.gif

Your dist-upgrade works very well for me.

Thanks

Greg
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Heh good one biggrin.gif
That however fails as soon as the user has a second partition on that card (which will be mounted as /media/card and OF COURSE trigger this blasted bug)

The worst part is that Hentges already had a work-around for this idiocy in place, which somehow stopped working about a year ago *sigh*
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Can you set up opie to not build medium-mount? As far as I can see it's used with the Doc Tab, which itself is not all that usefull....
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