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HoloVector
I am thinking of either getting a second Z or completely replacing my 1000 with either a 3100 or a 3200. The demo and open boxed 3100s are getting rarer than hens teeth so, I'm considering a 3200.

The problem is I have seen several posts from the members complaining of overclocking and ad-hoc networking woes on the 3200. See here for an example. I use both of those with my 1000. For example a I regularily watch action-packed movies on my Z and need to overclock Mplayer to 624/312/156 MHz to get them running smoothly. Not having Ad-hoc networking would cut down on my hot spot availability as well.

So my questions to the owners of the 3200 is have you been able work around these issues? Have the more recently purchased units displayed the same issues? In other words has Sharp corrected the problem.

My question to the developers who might read this is whether these issues can be overcome in the software for your various ROMs (yes, I know that they are really distros). biggrin.gif

Oh and to the person that beat me the last demo 3100 at Dynamism by 10 minutes yesterday. tongue.gif biggrin.gif
Thanks.
Capn_Fish
Conics has C3100s.

http://conics.net/catalog/product_info.php...&products_id=29
Cyberdoc1971
If you can get your hands on a C3100, I feel that in a lot of respects it's a stronger machine than the C3200, not to mention looks better. I know the C3200 has 2GB more on the internal HDD, but I think the C3100 is a more stable machine. Ebay is where I got mine, and they do pop up every now and then.
HoloVector
QUOTE(Capn_Fish @ Nov 1 2006, 06:39 PM)

Yes, I noticed that but, I don't like the fact that they don't come if the box, manuals and CDROMs. The first two are just me being picky rolleyes.gif but, the CDROMs are important to me from a future restore perspective.
HoloVector
QUOTE(Cyberdoc1971 @ Nov 1 2006, 09:30 PM)
If you can get your hands on a C3100, I feel that in a lot of respects it's a stronger machine than the C3200, not to mention looks better. I know the C3200 has 2GB more on the internal HDD, but I think the C3100 is a more stable machine. Ebay is where I got mine, and they do pop up every now and then.
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Very good point on the stability. I don't mind the color combo though since it reminds me of my Titanium Powerbook G4. biggrin.gif
daniel3000
What exactly are the downsides of the 3200?
I heard that overclocking is not as stable as on the 3100. Anything else?
Overclocking is not important to me.

Thanks
daniel
HoloVector
QUOTE(daniel3000 @ Nov 2 2006, 04:06 AM)
What exactly are the downsides of the 3200?
I heard that overclocking is not as stable as on the 3100. Anything else?
Overclocking is not important to me.

Thanks
daniel
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Cresho has also mentioned that he can't connect to Ad Hoc wireless networks. In other words he can only connect to wireless networks where a wireless point is an actual hardware access point like a Linksys, Netgear or Apple BaseStation. This type of connection is refered to as infrastructure mode. He can't conneect to a computer that is sharing it's internet connect through a wireless card. That type of connection is known as Ad-Hoc mode.
lardman
Are these stability issues/problems down to software differences between the machines or down to hardware differences?


Si
HoloVector
QUOTE(lardman @ Nov 2 2006, 06:47 AM)
Are these stability issues/problems down to software differences between the machines or down to hardware differences?


Si
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That is what I am trying to determine with this thread.

The Ad Hoc issue seems to be a software difference since 3200 doesn't have any wireless goodies built-in.

As far as the overclocking issue goes it looks like it goes both ways. Masolovsky said that the 3200 has a different processor revision that might require higher voltage levels then the revision used in the 1000 and the previous 3x00 models. Can that be compensated for in software? I can't really say because I am not qualified to do so. Hopefully someone some more knowledgeable then me on that subject will coment on this thread. wink.gif
HoloVector
I'm back after spending a month and half with my 3200. I can definitely say that I am enjoying it alot. The MicroDrive really takes the Z up a ,notch in the usability department for me. The slow SD slot has become a glorified floppy drive for me instead of my primary storage unit. The external CF slot, is now pretty much dedicated to communications and flashing for me.

As far as overclocking is concerned, it is possible to do it and it is stable if you follow these rules. You can overclock stablily if you choose either of these two settings 520/208/104 MHz or 624/208/104 MHz so, the 3200 can run at 624 MHz. Do not choose either 520/260/130 Mhz or 624/312/156 MHz because these settings will lock up the 3200. On my old 1000 I needed to overclock it to 624/312/156 MHz in order to have smooth full screen,play back for the battle scenes of my anime movies because they were usually stored on my SD card. With the 3200 I am of course storing them on the built-in microdrive which is faster than the SD card slot so overclocking to 624/208/104 MHz is giving me the same results as I got with 1000 with maximum overclocking. biggrin.gif

I haven't run into an adhoc network that I needed to connect to since I gott my 3200. It appears most people around here have switched to the more secure dedicated access points since you can get a decent one for under $20 these days.

Well enough with this long winded essay. rolleyes.gif
qaz
Hello, inability to connect ad-hoc is software issue (option not exist in dialogue)? Can it be avoided by using Cacko or by connecting from terminal?
Thanks.
HoloVector
QUOTE(qaz @ Jan 2 2007, 04:57 AM)
Hello, inability to connect ad-hoc is software issue (option not exist in dialogue)? Can it be avoided by using Cacko or by connecting from terminal?
Thanks.
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I'm not using SharpROM any longer so, I can't really say. Cacko does have an adhoc option I just don't know if it works since I haven't run into any adhoc networks lately.
deluxe
QUOTE(HoloVector @ Jan 2 2007, 03:45 PM)
QUOTE(qaz @ Jan 2 2007, 04:57 AM)
Hello, inability to connect ad-hoc is software issue (option not exist in dialogue)? Can it be avoided by using Cacko or by connecting from terminal?
Thanks.
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I'm not using SharpROM any longer so, I can't really say. Cacko does have an adhoc option I just don't know if it works since I haven't run into any adhoc networks lately.
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Cacko has an Ad Hoc option, but I have never tried it..............although, I have wellenreiter successfully configured on the sl-c1000, and that uses an Ad-hoc connection..........does that count?
BarryW
QUOTE(deluxe @ Jan 2 2007, 12:37 PM)
QUOTE(HoloVector @ Jan 2 2007, 03:45 PM)
QUOTE(qaz @ Jan 2 2007, 04:57 AM)
Hello, inability to connect ad-hoc is software issue (option not exist in dialogue)? Can it be avoided by using Cacko or by connecting from terminal?
Thanks.
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I'm not using SharpROM any longer so, I can't really say. Cacko does have an adhoc option I just don't know if it works since I haven't run into any adhoc networks lately.
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Cacko has an Ad Hoc option, but I have never tried it..............although, I have wellenreiter successfully configured on the sl-c1000, and that uses an Ad-hoc connection..........does that count?
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Pretty sure the adhoc problem is more of a hardware problem than software. I've connected my Z running cacko to my powerbook that was in adhoc mode.
Cresho
ad hoc is available on the cacko c3200 and not in sharprom running c3200
MrStaypuft
Sorry if these seems like a stupid question but what utility are you using to overclock your 3200?

I tried installing qtopia-combbatteryapplet_1.0.6_arm.ipk on my Zaurus but it would reboot after the install and then fail to come back up - the only way to get it going again was to do a restore from the boot menu.
HoloVector
QUOTE(Cresho @ Jan 2 2007, 07:48 PM)
ad hoc is available on the cacko c3200 and not in sharprom running c3200
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Thanks for clearing that up Cresho.
HoloVector
QUOTE(MrStaypuft @ Jan 2 2007, 09:01 PM)
Sorry if these seems like a stupid question but what utility are you using to overclock your 3200?

I tried installing qtopia-combbatteryapplet_1.0.6_arm.ipk on my Zaurus but it would reboot after the install and then fail to come back up - the only way to get it going again was to do a restore from the boot menu.
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I'm using the combined battery overclocking applet that comes with Cacko 1.23. I believe you need Tetsu's kernel to overclock under SharpROM so, that might be your problem.
MrStaypuft
I didn't believe there was a tetsu kernel for the 3200, which one did you install?
HoloVector
QUOTE(MrStaypuft @ Jan 2 2007, 10:19 PM)
I didn't believe there was a tetsu kernel for the 3200, which one did you install?
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There is 3200 specific one and it is at the same revision level as the the other 3x00 ones. It is 18h.

I never installed it though, because my WiFi card needed HostAP drivers in order to work and I couldn't find them short of compiling them myself. I couldn't compile my way out of a wet paper bag. So I eventually gave up and switched to Cacko which has Tetsu-like kernel built-in.
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