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danboid

Jan 21 2007, 10:02 AM

Altogether now!

"Could this replace the Zaurus?"

Beautiful children! Now RTFA!

http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/articles/...athena-en.shtml

This is the nearest I've seen HTC come to producing a worthy successor to the uni, but it's not what I'm waiting for. The article teases us by hinting that HTC do have a true uni successor in the works but says no more on that.

For me the flipstart looks to be the most worthy successor to the c3x00 series. I just hope it has build quality to match the Z, decent battery life (can't see it to be honest, but...) and isn't too expensive (again, can't see it being cheap on launch). I reckon I'll be sticking with my c3100 for a couple of years yet.

InSearchOf

Jan 21 2007, 10:28 AM

Never, that thing is hidious! (sp?)

Late

Snappy

Jan 21 2007, 03:56 PM

Hmmm ... looks pretty decent ... esp the specs ...

QUOTE

The display is one of the X7500’s highlights, as it utilizes 5” Samsung’s matrix boasting VGA resolution and touch input. Undoubtedly, for a notebook or a tablet PC it’s almost nothing, but still, it is the biggest matrix ever used in communicators.

The very unique feature of this communicator is availability of a built-in VGA/TV out (connecter ether via adapter or docking station). The company’s special HTC Ext USB can be linked up with a VGA adapter, while for TV out here is Composite/S-Video adapter. By the way, HTC Ext USB socket supports not only USB client, but host as well, in other words you can make use of various peripherals (for example mouse, keyboard or an external storage). And for the very first time the company provides a wired remote control for music playback management, which can be connected to any headphones compatible with 3.5 mm audio jack.

The communicator shows off totally new filling, as in course of its development they almost didn’t turn to the prior solutions. But even though its hardware is of some interest, it brings nothing new to the table. The CPU found on the X7500 is the old XScale PXA270 624 Mhz, while its phone part is handled by Qualcomm MSM6275 (quad-band GSM, UMTS 850/1900/2100 Mhz, GPRS, EDGE, HSDPA). A built-in graphics accelerator, ATI Imageon 2282, is onboard. However the most fundamental leap up is a bundled 10 Gb hard drive with G sensor, allowing the drive to fall into sleep mode if the device starts falling down. At that users will be free to expand this storage space with miniSD memory cards. And such features as Wi-Fi and Bluetooth don’t deserve a special note anymore due to being embedded in nearly each and every communicator by default.

Da_Blitz

Jan 21 2007, 10:20 PM

looks nice, i think my problem apart from bieng mobile gadget compolsive is that i want about 3 sizes of gadgets with slightly differing capabilities.

so in my mind this would ocupie the "away from home for extended periods" or "In need of some graphics grunt (ie entertainment)" instead of the general PDA market, will be intresting when people have more than one mobile computer (laptop, smartphone, this thing) and they actually decide at the beggining of the day which one they will need

my htc tytn fills in the "away from home for a bit" option ie day trips where no majer entertainment is needed apart from music and genral light duties (calls and PIM)

my Z was really in the power catagorey, for when i absoultly absoultly needed a linux box (most of the time

)

i wonder if there is a market in porting and maintaining a distro/linux for several PDAs, i am sure it would get more coverage if it had opie or somthing and came with a "click to install" interface, so same as we use nowdays only with less debugging messages and a pretty skin

i can see it now "unbuntu portable edition" or "fedora mobile", apprentlly there is a ARM oprt of fedora somwhere (from what i can gather)

kahm

Jan 22 2007, 01:59 AM

If only they'd made a real clamshell out of it. That keyboard setup looks wonky. Specs look decent, otherwise.

Oh, and it runs Windows Mobile, which I hate with a passion and is only a couple of very small steps from being generally useless

And they're expecting it to cost ~1500-2000. For that price I'll buy one of the Sony UXx0's, or hopefully a Flipstart.

Meanie

Jan 22 2007, 02:04 AM

what you all really want is the Menitto 2400. You just have to wait less than 400 years until it will be available

speculatrix

Jan 22 2007, 02:32 AM

I've come to the conclusion that there are three complimentary form factors you'd need, 1/ phone/PDA, 2/ easily portable laptop, and 3/ full-size laptop (desktop replacement) or desktop. I do like the Athena, and could probably make it do the job of 1 and 2, as I am not a massive user of mobile phone.

You could do this with docking stations, make the phone be a mass data store, and attach to laptop or desktop. Alternatively, the only way at the moment would be to use a gigantic flash memory card or microdrive (10 to 100GB for me), carry it with a small number of readers/adaptors, and then you can have all you data and home directory on the phone, pda/zaurus, on laptop, on desktop etc.

zmiq2

Jan 22 2007, 04:00 AM

This one looks cool, but for me x86-compatible is a must for my zaurus replacement.

Also, I'm looking for a device where I can run firefox at an acceptable speed.

speculatrix

Jan 22 2007, 08:43 AM

QUOTE(Meanie @ Jan 22 2007, 11:04 AM)

what you all really want is the Menitto 2400. You just have to wait less than 400 years until it will be available

google didn't tell me what one is... please do tell!

BTW, please stop posting to oesf for a week, I'm right behind you in the top ten posters and I want to get ahead

danboid

Jan 22 2007, 09:10 AM

NOO!

No Meanie, no OESF, no NOTHING

...and besides he has yet to disclose the secret to installing pdaXii13 Akita hdimage-full!!

Da_Blitz

Jan 22 2007, 07:58 PM

hahaha, i just checked how many post some people have done and i didnt relise that i am at number 12, still dasent hold a candel to the others (such as lardman) but it does make me smile

Antikx

Jan 22 2007, 09:20 PM

BTW, what ever happened to this guy:
ev1l
I was reading some old posts by him recently and realized he hasn't been around in a long time.

Meanie

Jan 22 2007, 09:31 PM

QUOTE(speculatrix @ Jan 23 2007, 02:43 AM)

QUOTE(Meanie @ Jan 22 2007, 11:04 AM)

what you all really want is the Menitto 2400. You just have to wait less than 400 years until it will be available

google didn't tell me what one is... please do tell!

BTW, please stop posting to oesf for a week, I'm right behind you in the top ten posters and I want to get ahead

hahaha, the Menitto is of course a super duper device that does everything you want exactly the way you want it and I am gonna invent it in the year 2400

Chero

Jan 23 2007, 12:13 AM

QUOTE(Meanie @ Jan 23 2007, 06:31 AM)

hahaha, the Menitto is of course a super duper device that does everything you want exactly the way you want it and I am gonna invent it in the year 2400

You'll be too late !

Win95 was released in 1994
Win2000 was released in 1999
AutoCad 2007 was released in 2006 and I expect version 2008 to come out in april 2007.

So you'll have to launch it in 2399 or it will be a commercial flop ...

Chero.

daniel3000

Jan 23 2007, 12:59 AM

QUOTE(Chero @ Jan 23 2007, 10:13 AM)

Chero.

hmm...
I read somewhere that the release of Windows 2000 had been delayed until first quarter of 1901

Chero

Jan 23 2007, 02:22 AM

QUOTE(daniel3000 @ Jan 23 2007, 09:59 AM)

hmm...
I read somewhere that the release of Windows 2000 had been delayed until first quarter of 1901

Sorry to stay off topic, but this really sounds like "back to the future".

OK , maybe I was wrong about win2000, but there are other examples (officeXXXX, ...)

daniel3000

Jan 23 2007, 05:47 AM

QUOTE(Chero @ Jan 23 2007, 12:22 PM)

Sorry to stay off topic, but this really sounds like "back to the future".

OK , maybe I was wrong about win2000, but there are other examples (officeXXXX, ...)

Hi Chero,
you may well be right about Win2000, what I wrote was only an old joke aiming the year-2000 problem of some computer software.

daniel

Chero

Jan 23 2007, 06:37 AM

QUOTE(daniel3000 @ Jan 23 2007, 02:47 PM)

Hi Chero,
you may well be right about Win2000, what I wrote was only an old joke aiming the year-2000 problem of some computer software.

daniel

Sorry, missed that one.

To get back on topic : make it a real clamshell and people might actually get to like it.
Oh, and by the way, lower the price with 60%.

Chero.

nilch

Mar 26 2007, 01:34 PM

HTC seems to be coming out with newer models and some nice ones at that.

http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/26/htc-shi...ally-goes-umpc/

Check out the HTC Shift

speculatrix

Mar 26 2007, 01:58 PM

QUOTE(nilch @ Mar 26 2007, 10:34 PM)

HTC seems to be coming out with newer models and some nice ones at that.

http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/26/htc-shi...ally-goes-umpc/

Check out the HTC Shift

yummmy!

danboid

Apr 19 2007, 04:19 AM

A friend of mine got his HTC Athena a few days back and I went round to have a look at it last night and I was impressed- especially with the screen and its divx/xvid playback which is much better than on my c3100.

However:

NO ESCAPE KEY ON THE KEYBOARD! (DUH! ESC is in the 'Top 5 most important keys on the keyboard' definitely)

If you want to use it as a phone you've got to use a headset

The current version of Windows Mobile (5) doesn't let you record video any higher than QVGA and even that didn't work when we give it a try last night. I think he was too embarrassed to try it again- I didn't push it but I presume video capture does actually work?

It currently runs WM 5 (bleughh!)

I can't believe they missed off the escape key! I suppose it can just be mapped to one of the useless wm app shortcut keys instead.

So, of course, the big question now is Linux support so that we can actually do something useful with this thing. Does anyone know if there is any (planned) support for the ATI Imageon 2282 in xorg? What about its wifi and GPRS chipsets? Have we got any chance of seeing these supported under Linux before the apocalypse?

desertrat

Apr 19 2007, 05:45 AM

QUOTE(danboid @ Apr 19 2007, 12:19 PM)

NO ESCAPE KEY ON THE KEYBOARD! (DUH! ESC is in the 'Top 5 most important keys on the keyboard' definitely)

Don't think there is much use for an ESC key on wince. But for Linux that's a bummer, it's not going to be much fun running vi. Does it have a TAB key? And the '|'?

QUOTE

Have we got any chance of seeing these supported under Linux before the apocalypse?

As long as the 12ft lizards don't eat up the developers first - sorry, wrong thread

freizugheit

Apr 19 2007, 07:09 AM

Oops!! $2,000 each

ZDevil

Apr 19 2007, 10:21 AM

The more i read about all these new fussy gadgets, the more I believe that Zaurus is the real bang for the buck.

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