This seems a bit much. The stable pdaXrom does quite a bit that would be useful for "joe-sixpack," imho. As far as stable--I have windows mobile. It isn't as stable as pdax--not even close. Windows mobile probably syncs better with windows, agreed. What do you get in exchange? pay as you go software? a really crappy web browser? security uncertainties/lack of access to something you own? planned obsolescence of your device?
Do you have to cold boot cacko to listen to music? I know you don't have to cold boot pdaX.
As to marketing..there is the neo, the N800, and the motorola linux phones, the pepperpad, the h9. Not a huge list, but it is more than the nothing you suggest.
At any rate, this was about an ubuntu announcement. If what you were trying to say was that dhns is on the worng track sugggesting that ubuntu use stuff already developed by the extant distros, that seems like too much too. Shuttleworth stikes me as someone witha very good idea of what he is trying to accomplish, a reasonable attitude and a good team and a good product. I wouldn't worry about ubuntu getting caught up in Zaurus development issues and being destroyed.
If you wan't a solid useable distro for your 3-year old 760 (any 3 year old win gadgets still in use?) try pdaXqt & cacko.
QUOTE(amrein @ May 9 2007, 12:56 PM)
All those projects around are interesting dhns, but mainly for developers. Where is my great and powerful distribution for my Zaurus SL-C760? Where can I download something really stable from those projects? Something that just works out of the box? Something I haven't noticed? Do even one of those projects have succeeded in the market in open source device? Something stable to work with? Something marvelous? Rock solid? I never see this here, nor on handhelds.org, nor ... Well, couldn't find one good distro for this PDA for years. I just have "hope" but can't see anything. I'm not talking of something that "will be marvelous" or that "will be stable". No, I'm talking about now, today, with all those years behind.
If you just play with ssh and don't bother with PIMs and don't need synchronization and don't want to do things that a real PDA can achieve (things like power off/ power on or playing music without the need to cold reboot your device) than you won't understand what I'm talking about. The expected reply could be: "If you wanted those things, why didn't you invest yourself in those projects". But here is how I see all this: your different "efforts" just killed the Zaurus line and killed my hope to use those device as a simple user. Should I helped to achieve this? No of course. I see them like a a wast of time. I contribute small patches to other FOSS but for those ones my answer is no. They received more power, they had more developers, they had more attention from the community but nothing usable came out. Only frustration (for a few of us perhaps). So no. Sorry no. I see them like some kind of trap. I'm not saying to kill any effort but to let other do what they want and let those who don't need more to continue to play with with what is already there. I prefer collaboration instead of just one big project that don't achieve anything good tor "joe six packs".
I'm so paranoid that I even though that you were just a few guys from companies trying to stop Linux expansion in the mobile/embedded market. Can you imagine this? To much Zaurus are just paperweight at present arround me that I'm disgusted. I'm sure that OE is interesting as a distro builder tool. But as a user, I judge on what have been done and not what it can do. Please, tell me I'm wrong and that what I'm expecting from Linux embedded is already downloadable. Where should I point my ftp client to stop crying about my new paperweight? I will really be happy to be wrong. Really.