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cortez
Oh dear,

This afternoon I threw some coffee over my precious Zaurus. Clumsy me!!
After some time I tried to restart the machine, but after a while the screen started to get messy. I will wait until tomorrow and hope that it's dried enough so I can give it another try.

How much coffee can it handle?!?

Bear with me!
speculatrix
im my experience, the best thing you can do if you spill liquid on something electronic is to
a/ remove power (mains and battery) immediately
b/ remove covers of device
c/ wash with clean water, distilled if possible (except the LCD)
d/ allow to dry for a long time in a slightly warmed environment

the stickyness of a soft drink can lead to dirt being collected which will cause device to malfunction, tea and coffee are probably not quite as bad except for the staining which can occur.
HoloVector
QUOTE(speculatrix @ Aug 21 2007, 05:20 PM)
im my experience, the best thing you can do if you spill liquid on something electronic is to
a/ remove power (mains and battery) immediately
b/ remove covers of device
c/ wash with clean water, distilled if possible (except the LCD)
d/ allow to dry for a long time in a slightly warmed environment

the stickyness of a soft drink can lead to dirt being collected which will cause device to malfunction, tea and coffee are probably not quite as bad except for the staining which can occur.
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That really depends on how sugared the coffee was..... rolleyes.gif
Fushnchupsh
I actually spilled oj right into the keyboard of my z. I dried it right away, let it sit and it is fine with no ramifications.

You should be fine

--Fish
cortez
I just tried to power on my poor Shepherd... The screen is one big mess!

I dismantled the poor thing, and tried to clean it. I can't find any coffee stains whatsoever. I guess I'll have to wait a bit longer and keep my fingers crossed until the next try. In the meantime, I'll check all my pockets to collect every spare euro-cent in case I have to get me a replacement...

Why oh why do I drink so much coffee!
Capn_Fish
You may only need to replace the screen, if indeed it is broken. Conics sells screens for something like 170 USB IIRC, which is much cheaper than a new Z.
cortez
With two weeks of vacation ahead of me, my Zaurus just died within the palm of my hand... you may use this thread as an expression of condolence and support. Thanks in advance sad.gif
HoloVector
QUOTE(cortez @ Aug 22 2007, 02:18 PM)
With two weeks of vacation ahead of me, my Zaurus just died within the palm of my hand... you may use this thread as an expression of condolence and support. Thanks in advance  sad.gif
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RIP little Zaurus. sad.gif

You could go Dr. Frakenstein and try replacing the LCD like capn_fish suggested.
Chero
Lived on a high level and died too soon ...
Amen.

Hope you'll find a replacement or get it repaired.

Dit is echt klote voor je ...
Chero.
raduga
for what its worth,
I spilled soda (sucrotic, caffeinated, dark, acid) on my Husky (C760)
and ended up with similar results to the original poster. sad.gif

Immediately (at least, as soon as I discovered it; could have been an hour later)
removed power sources. I soaked it in distilled water for ~ 30m,
and then another soak in a fresh bucket of water for ~ 30m, then let dry
for ~ 72 hours with a fan blowing over it to keep airflow high.

Screen failure; the rest of the Zaurus appeared to be okay.

I tried disassembling and cleaning the contacts but it appeared that
the cable connecting the screen to the Z may have been damaged (corroded)
or otherwise non-functional.

I ended up selling the Husky to an OESF member for way too much money;
he reported that it continued to work more or less, screen-less,
for several months afterward, at which point I think he stopped trying.

My Akita (replacement) has been running fine... for 2.5 years since.
The keyboard and case are significantly worn,
and the CPU no longer likes overclocking but battery and the rest are in fine shape.

I have ceased and desisted from sucrotic, caffeinated, dark, acid sodas
and my life has been much improved.

However I fear to step between you and your coffee...
kahm
On the subject of condolences, a friend of mine is currently in Moscow. Apparently he had his Z (3200) and his passport pick-pocketed off of him on the subway. He's now Z-less for the first time since the SL-5000D tongue.gif

Unfortunately, he'll probably be replacing it with something other than a Zaurus.
pelrun
Water isn't the best thing to soak electronics in after a spill; distilled water may be non-conductive but it quickly gets contaminated and will corrode metal parts... not to mention not drying well. Electronics have lots of nice little nooks and crannies that can hide conductive droplets.

Denatured ethanol/methylated spirits is usually the tool of choice - it flushes out the gunk and water nicely and dries readily with little/no residue.
InSearchOf
QUOTE(pelrun @ Aug 28 2007, 09:43 PM)
Water isn't the best thing to soak electronics in after a spill; distilled water may be non-conductive but it quickly gets contaminated and will corrode metal parts... not to mention not drying well. Electronics have lots of nice little nooks and crannies that can hide conductive droplets.

Denatured ethanol/methylated spirits is usually the tool of choice - it flushes out the gunk and water nicely and dries readily with little/no residue.
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I will 2nd this

Late
craigtyson
Guys dony use water. As stated, it is going to corrode the innards and while it will pick up crud thats in the Z, it tends to put some of it back when it dries.

A better option to use is Isopropanol or its brand name IsoClene. Its used for cleaning eletrical gear, switch contacts, tape heads and the rest, is a solvent so does better as getting rid of the conductive deposits in your coffee / soda and as it evaporates (DONOT sniff the fumes) will remove water also. I've used this stuff on laptops and it works a teat. It can discolour some plastic though so use with care. Also I would keep it away from the display, I've never used it to clean a display and cannot predict the results.

To use as a cleaner, saturate the board so that a pool of IsoClene forms, soak the excess up with a cloth (getting rid of the gunk as you doso) then allow to evaporate which will take any remaining water with it.

PS Your Z will get very cold as the IsoClene evaporates, take care and dont overdo it.
Da_Blitz
any one intrested in a replacment screen from a c3000 contact me

blew the charging circuit so its dead in the water, willing to donate parts to people in need
cortez
Ok, so I'm back from my vacation, during which I disassembled the complete unit trying to find any coffee stains... nothing found really, so I carefully cleaned all around the edges and cleaned the (oh so tiny) display-cable.

To make a long story short, all cleaning and drying efforts had no effect. See the attached pictures for both the screen while booting and after starting the desktop.

Booting: Click to view attachment
Desktop: Click to view attachment

I have to decide what to do next. I have the feeling that repairing the unit will be quite expensive. I already blew away the charging part of the Zaurus (by setting the polarity on a universal adaptor).

I want something future-proof when buying something new (of course). What I like most about the Zaurus is it's form factor (the clamshell) in combination with it's size and extensibility. Most of the time I only use it as an agenda. For the rest of the time I try to develop a bit here and there, and experiment with all kinds of software and learning Linux. It's my mini-laptop I guess. What I hate is the inability of synchronisation with my work agenda and mail (Exchange server). If that could be fixed a new Zaurus is definitely my PDA for the next few years.

I tried a M$ device a while back, and it's great for playing Sudoku and using it with TomTom but developing for just another Windblows device is just horrible, and a PDA without a keyboard is not the thing for me.

It's kind of a luxury problem I guess, just find the right replacement... huh.gif
speculatrix
sorry to hear that the Z is irrecoverable.

I got some Z spares by advertising in the WANTED section, maybe you will be lucky too. The screen from any clamshell, even back to the 700, 750 and 760 should work.

Failing that, perhaps you could donate your Z to one of the major projects like openBSD or pdaXrom or Angstrom? It can still be used for testing software without the display.
sds
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I want something future-proof when buying something new (of course).

Same here, unfortunately nothing comparable has shown up yet.
And Sharp seems to be manufacturing at least the C1000 still (as Trisoft reported recently), so for the time being, and a couple of more years we are good.

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What I like most about the Zaurus is it's form factor (the clamshell) in combination with it's size and extensibility. Most of the time I only use it as an agenda. For the rest of the time I try to develop a bit here and there, and experiment with all kinds of software and learning Linux. It's my mini-laptop I guess.

Same here.
In addition, I have all my development e-books from Manning and the Pragmatic Programmers along with many magazines from the ACM Digital Library. I have both Ruby/Rails and Java/Ant prototyping environments conveniently setup (thanks for your jamvm, classpath and j2me packages, btw). I also ripped many of my CDs and transferred them. I often use the dictionaries, etc...
I sold my notebook as the Z. mostly replaces it. For real work I have a dual Opteron workstation at home.

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What I hate is the inability of synchronisation with my work agenda and mail (Exchange server). If that could be fixed a new Zaurus is definitely my PDA for the next few years.

Well, sync is not possible with Lotus Notes used in my current project either... not that it will make you feel better... I am currently looking into web/server based calendar options to sync with KO/PI.

The prices on the Z. are really falling down, btw.
I bought recently a SL-C3000 with Ambicom WiFi and Socket Bluetooth cards as a gift for my girlfriend's birthday for $275 from the US eBay.

So I would say get a Cxxxx model, let me know if I can be of assistance...
cortez
Well, some bad situations can lead to great new possibilities... After the "coffee experience" I thought of a replacement for my trusty SL-C750. I really couldn't find anything like the Zaurus. So I searched eBay for a used Zaurus, did some bidding here and there, and now I'm the lucky owner of SL-C1000 and a SL-C3100. So, this story doesn't end up too bad after all tongue.gif
speculatrix
QUOTE(cortez @ Oct 14 2007, 08:58 PM) *
Well, some bad situations can lead to great new possibilities... After the "coffee experience" I thought of a replacement for my trusty SL-C750. I really couldn't find anything like the Zaurus. So I searched eBay for a used Zaurus, did some bidding here and there, and now I'm the lucky owner of SL-C1000 and a SL-C3100. So, this story doesn't end up too bad after all tongue.gif


I hope it was a case of buy one get one free! My wife complained I had too many zauruses - but that was sort of an accident (I bid thinking it was a bargain and someone would outbid me, and bang, I'd bought another!!)
craigtyson
Give ISOClene a go it might sort your display out.

C
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