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Meanie
The baseline for pdaXii13, ie full compatability with beta1/beta3 will be broken in the next generation of pdaXii13, ie pdaXii13v2 aka build 5.5

packages for pdaXii13 up to 5.4.9 are compatible with pdaXrom beta1/beta3 and vice versa.

Starting pdaXii13 build 5.5 aka pdaXii13v2, this compatability is no longer maintained since most of the base libraries for pdaXii13v2 will be upgraded to the latest/newer versions which are more in line with pdaXrom Latest aka r197/r198.

pdaXiiv2 will still be able to run beta1/beta3 apps, but apps compiled for pdaXii13v2 will no longer be guaranteed to be working in beta1/beta3 without upgrading the necessary libraries.

pdaXii13 build 5.4.9 can be upgraded to pdaXii13v2 via ipkg upgrade using the following feed:
http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/beta3/pdaxiiv2/

it is also necessary to update /usr/bin/ipkg, /etc/ipkg.conf and /usr/lib/ipkg/ignored which can be found at the end of this thread before attempting an upgrade: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showt...mp;#entry167303

alternatively, you can also install the following package which will update the above files for you and if you are connected to the internet, will run ipkg upgrade to upgrade all the packages as listed on http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/tmp/

http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/beta3/pd...a5_armv5tel.ipk

most packages used for upgrading to pdaXiiv2 were taken from kkazakov13's feed (http://z.drun.net/packages/), however, I had to rebuild a few myself to make them compatible with pdaXii13

gtk2 - newer version and support for xim/scim
bluez-libs - added compatability link for older apps
bluez-tools - changed config to support rfcomm (dun/gprs) and cf card detection
dbus - added dependency for dbus-glib
leafpad - linked /usr/local to /usr
links - with desktop file and icon
wifi-radar - command line option
openbox - with working rotation and keyboard shortcuts

additional packages available:
xtermcontrol
gpicview
wireshark
epiphany
cellwriter
obconf
tomoe
quasar
adf
I guess, based on available images, I'll do a fresh 4.9 install and then update

Ugh. I'd forgotten that the CF Flash seems to write slower (but seek faster) than the microdrive. Flashing is time consuming now wink.gif
raduga
QUOTE(Meanie @ Sep 16 2007, 07:24 PM)
The baseline for pdaXii13, ie full compatability with beta1/beta3 will be broken in the next generation of pdaXii13, ie pdaXii13v2 aka build 5.5


Is there an initrd for build 5.5 yet?
adf
status on a fresh install of 4.9/update with the ipk:
mostly looks good.
when launching an app libcairo complains about wanting a version number (from libpng?)

fontconfig comlains that there are no cached elements


weirdly I can't seem to get dun info from the ppp modem gui (BT to phone) and while I can do hcitool scan, connect with hcitool cc, I can't do hcitool auth to get a connection.
Edit: sim card issues--will revisit this after a replacement
FinnDinn
I have a similiar problem with bluetooth on this alpha - cannot authenticate after the PIN prompt
adf
QUOTE(FinnDinn @ Sep 18 2007, 09:50 AM)
I have a similiar problem with bluetooth on this alpha - cannot authenticate after the PIN prompt
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Yeah--I switched SIM cards, reset all passwords-- pppd call GPRS just gets me the box on my phone to enter the pin, then tells me pairing failed. NOT good. Glad to hear it might not be just me, though.

The question then, is where the problem lies? Should we downgrade the bluetooth stuff? Any of it? all of it? change a config file?

incidentally, /var/log/dmesg has some interesting info:
Linux version 2.4.20 (darkstar@aleihos)

Ignoring unrecognized tag 0x00000000
Turbo mode clock : 416.00MHZ (*2.0, active)
run mode clock : 208.00MHZ
system bus clock : 208.00MHZ (1/1)
LCD clock : 104.00MHZ (1/2)

maybe that stuff has been around for awhile and I didn't notice? (and shouldn't "turbo" be faster wink.gif ?)

I guess this makes a good excuse to try titchy

edit--make that "try gentoo," titchy didn't seem to lik the cf repacement smile.gif
Meanie
QUOTE(FinnDinn @ Sep 19 2007, 03:50 AM)
I have a similiar problem with bluetooth on this alpha - cannot authenticate after the PIN prompt
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please upgrade the two bluez packages (bluez-libs, bluez-utils) again and it should fix that...
FinnDinn
QUOTE(Meanie @ Sep 19 2007, 12:25 AM)
please upgrade the two bluez packages (bluez-libs, bluez-utils) again and it should fix that...
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Thank you, it worked.
Another problem - png desktop icons are not displayed, probably a problem with libpng?
Meanie
QUOTE(FinnDinn @ Sep 20 2007, 01:01 AM)
QUOTE(Meanie @ Sep 19 2007, 12:25 AM)
please upgrade the two bluez packages (bluez-libs, bluez-utils) again and it should fix that...
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Thank you, it worked.
Another problem - png desktop icons are not displayed, probably a problem with libpng?
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probably a problem with rox. it has a bug which does that from time to time. running rox-fix should fix it...
FinnDinn
[quote=Meanie,Sep 19 2007, 06:30 PM]
[quote=FinnDinn,Sep 20 2007, 01:01 AM]
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Another problem - png desktop icons are not displayed, probably a problem with libpng?
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probably a problem with rox. it has a bug which does that from time to time. running rox-fix should fix it...
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Sorry, but I couldn't find anything by that name neither on forum except this post, nor on the disk unsure.gif Reinstalling rox doesn't seem to help.
adf
[quote=FinnDinn,Sep 20 2007, 01:25 PM]
[quote=Meanie,Sep 19 2007, 06:30 PM]
[quote=FinnDinn,Sep 20 2007, 01:01 AM]
[/quote]
Another problem - png desktop icons are not displayed, probably a problem with libpng?
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[/quote]

probably a problem with rox. it has a bug which does that from time to time. running rox-fix should fix it...
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[/quote]

Sorry, but I couldn't find anything by that name neither on forum except this post, nor on the disk unsure.gif Reinstalling rox doesn't seem to help.
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gnome-vfs version problem."relocation error." this is, of course after doing some creative linking to make a couple other libraries work.

Type "rox"in a terminal, you'll see clearly

edit: i may have described a unique problem caused by me--not a pdaxii13v2 issue
canguy247
Hey Meanie,

Once again nice work Meanie. It is amazing how much work you put into this. I just have one quick question. I want to upgrade my pdaxii13 to 5.4.9, then to pdaxii13v2. The only problem is that I have a non-standard setup. My SL-C1000 has the FULL version on SD. If I use pdaXii13-custom.tgz, and then pdaxiiv2-upgrade, will it work?

Thanks again Meanie.

Canguy
Meanie
QUOTE(canguy247 @ Sep 22 2007, 11:31 AM)
Hey Meanie,

Once again nice work Meanie.  It is amazing how much work you put into this.  I just have one quick question.  I want to upgrade my pdaxii13 to 5.4.9, then to pdaxii13v2.  The only problem is that I have a non-standard setup.  My SL-C1000 has the FULL version on SD.  If I use pdaXii13-custom.tgz, and then pdaxiiv2-upgrade, will it work?

Thanks again Meanie.

Canguy
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i am not sure whether it will work on the c1000 with a full install on SD since I cannot test it. the only way to find out is for someone to try it out.
canguy247
QUOTE(Meanie @ Sep 22 2007, 10:16 AM)
QUOTE(canguy247 @ Sep 22 2007, 11:31 AM)
Hey Meanie,

Once again nice work Meanie.  It is amazing how much work you put into this.  I just have one quick question.  I want to upgrade my pdaxii13 to 5.4.9, then to pdaxii13v2.  The only problem is that I have a non-standard setup.  My SL-C1000 has the FULL version on SD.  If I use pdaXii13-custom.tgz, and then pdaxiiv2-upgrade, will it work?

Thanks again Meanie.

Canguy
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i am not sure whether it will work on the c1000 with a full install on SD since I cannot test it. the only way to find out is for someone to try it out.
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OK. I guess I will be backing up my SD and internal flash tomorrow and try it. Just wanted to know if it was theoretically possible. Thanks Meanie.
canguy247
QUOTE(canguy247 @ Sep 22 2007, 04:46 PM)
QUOTE(Meanie @ Sep 22 2007, 10:16 AM)
QUOTE(canguy247 @ Sep 22 2007, 11:31 AM)
Hey Meanie,

Once again nice work Meanie.  It is amazing how much work you put into this.  I just have one quick question.  I want to upgrade my pdaxii13 to 5.4.9, then to pdaxii13v2.  The only problem is that I have a non-standard setup.  My SL-C1000 has the FULL version on SD.  If I use pdaXii13-custom.tgz, and then pdaxiiv2-upgrade, will it work?

Thanks again Meanie.

Canguy
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i am not sure whether it will work on the c1000 with a full install on SD since I cannot test it. the only way to find out is for someone to try it out.
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OK. I guess I will be backing up my SD and internal flash tomorrow and try it. Just wanted to know if it was theoretically possible. Thanks Meanie.
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So, I upgraded to 5.4.9 using the custom.tgz, and then installed the upgrade ipk for v2, which installed all of the updates. Everything works great except for a couple of issues. The main one is that IceWM does not have any apps in the start menu. Is this normal behaviour?

Canguy
Meanie
QUOTE(canguy247 @ Sep 26 2007, 03:59 AM)
QUOTE(canguy247 @ Sep 22 2007, 04:46 PM)
QUOTE(Meanie @ Sep 22 2007, 10:16 AM)
QUOTE(canguy247 @ Sep 22 2007, 11:31 AM)
Hey Meanie,

Once again nice work Meanie.  It is amazing how much work you put into this.  I just have one quick question.  I want to upgrade my pdaxii13 to 5.4.9, then to pdaxii13v2.  The only problem is that I have a non-standard setup.  My SL-C1000 has the FULL version on SD.  If I use pdaXii13-custom.tgz, and then pdaxiiv2-upgrade, will it work?

Thanks again Meanie.

Canguy
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i am not sure whether it will work on the c1000 with a full install on SD since I cannot test it. the only way to find out is for someone to try it out.
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OK. I guess I will be backing up my SD and internal flash tomorrow and try it. Just wanted to know if it was theoretically possible. Thanks Meanie.
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So, I upgraded to 5.4.9 using the custom.tgz, and then installed the upgrade ipk for v2, which installed all of the updates. Everything works great except for a couple of issues. The main one is that IceWM does not have any apps in the start menu. Is this normal behaviour?

Canguy
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Does openbox work correctly?
There might have been a few config files being missed out when you upgraded to 5.4.9
Try unpacking pdaXii13-custom.tgz and copying the files under the icewm subdirectory to /etc/icewm

also, there is a menu item to regenerate the icewm menus, but if you don't have any items, then that would be difficult to run it from the menu smile.gif try running makeicemenu :-)

Anyway, this is just a alpha release and the purpose of this release is to find all the bugs and issues releated to the upgrade to pdaXiiv2

Please if you discover any issues, even little ones, dont hesitate to report them so they can be fixed for alpha2 smile.gif

for anyone trying to upgrade from a version prior to 5.4.9 to pdaXiiv2, please make sure your upgrade to 5.4.9 is successful before upgrading to pdaXiiv2. if you have any issues upgrading from 5.4.x to 5.4.9, please let me know as well. i want to make sure that all the upgrades from 5.x.x to 5.4.9 is good.
please make sure when you are reporting problems you clearly state whether it is one for upgrading to 5.4.9 or pdaXiiv2 alphax. those two are two different issues and i want to keep them separate.
Jon_J
I've been mostly absent the entire summer, temps where my desktop is located get over 90 F (and I'm never home much then).
I just upgraded pdaxii13 - 5.4.3 to 5.4.9
I'll Use 5.4.9 awhile and see if I have any problems, before attempting to upgrade to pdaXiiv2.
First thing I noticed upon reboot (after the upgrade) is "xselect" only has 2 options:
1. Quit
2. Openbox

In 5.4.3, I could select icewm from there. I also think there was another selection available, (like fluxbox or another wm) I never used those selections in 5.4.3 because my only alternate wm was icewm.

One minor glitch I had upgrading, is that my C3200 has sat on my desk (plugged in) all summer, and I had to reboot and make sure my CF card mounted properly before zcat could find pdaxii13-custom.tgz

One other minor thing I have always had to do when using the upgrade method, is make sure I am "inside" the directory where each of these 2 files are located before issuing a command on them.
for "zcat pdaXii13-custom.tgz | tar xvf - -C /mnt/cf/upgrade" (I needed to issue cd /mnt/cf)
for "./install-fix-beta3.sh / upgrade" (I needed to issue cd /mnt/cf/upgrade/custom)
Meanie
QUOTE(Jon_J @ Sep 26 2007, 11:27 AM)
I've been mostly absent the entire summer, temps where my desktop is located get over 90 F (and I'm never home much then).
I just upgraded pdaxii13 - 5.4.3 to 5.4.9
I'll Use 5.4.9 awhile and see if I have any problems, before attempting to upgrade to pdaXiiv2.
First thing I noticed upon reboot (after the upgrade) is "xselect" only has 2 options:
1. Quit
2. Openbox

In 5.4.3, I could select icewm from there. I also think there was another selection available, (like fluxbox or another wm) I never used those selections in 5.4.3 because my only alternate wm was icewm.

One minor glitch I had upgrading, is that my C3200 has sat on my desk (plugged in) all summer, and I had to reboot and make sure my CF card mounted properly before zcat could find pdaxii13-custom.tgz

One other minor thing I have always had to do when using the upgrade method, is make sure I am "inside" the directory where each of these 2 files are located before issuing a command on them.
for "zcat pdaXii13-custom.tgz | tar xvf - -C /mnt/cf/upgrade" (I needed to issue cd /mnt/cf)
for "./install-fix-beta3.sh / upgrade" (I needed to issue cd /mnt/cf/upgrade/custom)
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it does not seem like you got the correct version of xselect installed

numbers are not being shown anymore, they should be letters, ie

O OpenBox
I IceWM
F FluxBox
E Enlightenment
K KDE
Q Quit

the above depends on which window managers are installed. obviously if the wm is not present, it won't be shown in the list.

in your case, you should at least see OpenBox and IceWM

btw, it is generally better to use the Upgrade option in the installer to upgrade rather than manually running the upgrade script.
glac
Hello Meanie,

Great work on pdaxii13, congratulations and thanks!
I have a SL-C3200 and I've installed sucessfully the 5.4.9 Akita version. I've updated the ipkg package, ipkg.conf and added the ignored file as stated in this post. There were some probles during installation:

- When installing gtk2, there were problems with libpng and libcairo.
- When I tried to acess network-cfg, there was a script error when looking for gtk
- All the desktop default icons were gone (only appears an symbol with X, probably of not found), and probably because they were png icons.

That appears to be all. I'll backup my installation again (of mine 5.4.9) and try again to reproduce and feedback the problems with its correct messages to make it easier to track the bugs.

I've one more doubt: When I rebooted my system, there was a message like this before mounting the VFS:

"jffs2_scan_inode_node(): CRC failed on node 0x0618bdfc " followed by the sum calculated and the expected sum.

Is this some serious problem, do I need to reinstall pdaxii13 to correct this or this is normal?

Thanks for your work and attention.

glac
canguy247
Thanks a million guys. It would seem I have found the problem...but not the cause. The first thing I noticed is that makeicemenu did not exist. So I checked the next thing... and wow, /etc/icewm does not exist either. It would seem that the upgrade to 5.4.9 did not work. So then I unpacked pda...custom.tgz and had a look at the install script. I used this file to manually copy over what I needed for icewm. I did not want to simply run the script manually since I did not want to mess up the system, since I have upgraded to v2. Guess I should have spent more than a few hours with 5.4.9 to check out the issues before upgrading. Things seem fine now, the only issue is that I know much of the upgrade script worked, but not all. If anything else messes up, I will know where to look. My next step will be to look at Meanie's release notes and manually copy over fixes that were done after my old version, which will not mess up v2.

So far so good though! What an awesome setup Meanie. This is what I wanted my pda to do when I bought it. wow, thanks again dude.

Canguy
Meanie
QUOTE(glac @ Sep 26 2007, 09:04 PM)
Hello Meanie,

Great work on pdaxii13, congratulations and thanks!
I have a SL-C3200 and I've installed sucessfully the 5.4.9 Akita version. I've updated the ipkg package, ipkg.conf and added the ignored file as stated in this post. There were some probles during installation:

- When installing gtk2, there were problems with libpng and libcairo.
- When I tried to acess network-cfg, there was a script error when looking for gtk
- All the desktop default icons were gone (only appears an symbol with X, probably of not found), and probably because they were png icons.

That appears to be all. I'll backup my installation again (of mine 5.4.9) and try again to reproduce and feedback the problems with its correct messages to make it easier to track the bugs.

I've one more doubt: When I rebooted my system, there was a message like this before mounting the VFS:

"jffs2_scan_inode_node(): CRC failed on node 0x0618bdfc " followed by the sum calculated and the expected sum.

Is this some serious problem, do I need to reinstall pdaxii13 to correct this or this is normal?

Thanks for your work and attention.

glac
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is this on a Akita base or an extended Akita full ?
what exact version of gtk2 did it try to install?
as for the jffs2 errors, that's normal for all Zaurus models that use the NAND...

glac
QUOTE(Meanie @ Sep 26 2007, 06:17 PM) *
QUOTE(glac @ Sep 26 2007, 09:04 PM)
Hello Meanie,

Great work on pdaxii13, congratulations and thanks!
I have a SL-C3200 and I've installed sucessfully the 5.4.9 Akita version. I've updated the ipkg package, ipkg.conf and added the ignored file as stated in this post. There were some probles during installation:

- When installing gtk2, there were problems with libpng and libcairo.
- When I tried to acess network-cfg, there was a script error when looking for gtk
- All the desktop default icons were gone (only appears an symbol with X, probably of not found), and probably because they were png icons.

That appears to be all. I'll backup my installation again (of mine 5.4.9) and try again to reproduce and feedback the problems with its correct messages to make it easier to track the bugs.

I've one more doubt: When I rebooted my system, there was a message like this before mounting the VFS:

"jffs2_scan_inode_node(): CRC failed on node 0x0618bdfc " followed by the sum calculated and the expected sum.

Is this some serious problem, do I need to reinstall pdaxii13 to correct this or this is normal?

Thanks for your work and attention.

glac
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is this on a Akita base or an extended Akita full ?
what exact version of gtk2 did it try to install?
as for the jffs2 errors, that's normal for all Zaurus models that use the NAND...


I was upgrading from Akita 5.4.9 Alice full. The only feed on mine ipkg.conf was the pdaxii13v2/ so the version was 2.10.13-1. Before the gtk2 problem, there was the conflict of libcairo with libpng (wanting the version of libpng). When it tried to install gtk2, there was some kind of issue with libcairo or libpng (can't remember wicht one now). I will try to upgrade again after I've done my backup and show exactaly all the messages.

Thanks for the reply and forgive mine bad description of the problems I've had.

glac
Jon_J
QUOTE(Meanie @ Sep 25 2007, 08:55 PM) *
it does not seem like you got the correct version of xselect installed

numbers are not being shown anymore, they should be letters, ie

O OpenBox
I IceWM
F FluxBox
E Enlightenment
K KDE
Q Quit

the above depends on which window managers are installed. obviously if the wm is not present, it won't be shown in the list.

in your case, you should at least see OpenBox and IceWM

It seems that IceWM is missing on my C3200 also. I no longer have /etc/icewm directory, and no icewm entries shown in package manager.
I'm not concerned about icewm at the moment because I'm backing up my personal data and am going to "Flash" to 5.4.9
I seem to have mount and unmount problems with both my SD & CF cards, and probably have some configuration issues of my own doing.
This is why I'm starting over with a fresh flash. smile.gif
One quick question.
Is the 2.6 kernel being introduced with 5.4.9 to pdaxii13v2 upgrade?
I'm asking about this because both my CF LAN card and USB LAN dongle seem to have drivers that work with the 2.6 kernel.
Meanie
QUOTE(Jon_J @ Sep 28 2007, 05:13 AM) *
QUOTE(Meanie @ Sep 25 2007, 08:55 PM) *
it does not seem like you got the correct version of xselect installed

numbers are not being shown anymore, they should be letters, ie

O OpenBox
I IceWM
F FluxBox
E Enlightenment
K KDE
Q Quit

the above depends on which window managers are installed. obviously if the wm is not present, it won't be shown in the list.

in your case, you should at least see OpenBox and IceWM

It seems that IceWM is missing on my C3200 also. I no longer have /etc/icewm directory, and no icewm entries shown in package manager.
I'm not concerned about icewm at the moment because I'm backing up my personal data and am going to "Flash" to 5.4.9
I seem to have mount and unmount problems with both my SD & CF cards, and probably have some configuration issues of my own doing.
This is why I'm starting over with a fresh flash. smile.gif
One quick question.
Is the 2.6 kernel being introduced with 5.4.9 to pdaxii13v2 upgrade?
I'm asking about this because both my CF LAN card and USB LAN dongle seem to have drivers that work with the 2.6 kernel.


no, pdaXii13 will stay on the 2.4.20 kernel.

the 2.6 kernel is still unstable. none of the Z distros out there have a fully functional 2.6 kernel yet.
if you want pdaXrom with 2.6 kernel, wait for pdaXrom 2.0.0 or use its alpha versions, ie r198...


adf
I have KDE installed (ShiroiKuma's squash this time) and have no kde entry on the startup menu. How do I fix that?
Meanie
QUOTE(adf @ Sep 28 2007, 11:07 AM) *
I have KDE installed (ShiroiKuma's squash this time) and have no kde entry on the startup menu. How do I fix that?


your kde session script (modified xinitrc script) has to be /usr/bin/kde-session
Meanie
the pygtk is not working correctly, so until that is resolved, pygtk will be added to the ignored list for package upgrades in alpha2
if you have already upgraded it, uninstall it and reinstall the older version.
Jon_J
I've two questions.
1. If I upgrade from pdaxii13-5.4.9 to pdaxii13v2, over my internet connection, will I lose my settings I have made to these files?
/etc/pcmcia/config
/etc/pcmcia/herms.conf
/etc/pcmcia/hostap_cs.conf
/etc/pcmcia/network.opts

2. I have pdaxii13-5.4.9 sally installed to NAND (I only have one thing installed on the hard drive, firefox)
Do all these updates install to NAND only? I have 51 MB remaining on my NAND

Thank you,
Jon
Jon_J
I decided to upgrade to pdaxii13v2 and installed the file "pdaxiiv2-upgrade_4.4.0-alpha2_armv5tel.ipk"
I was connected to the internet while the upgrade process was running when my zaurus went to sleep, and lost my connection.
This upgrade is only partially finished. I need to restart it again.
Is this possible?
If I reboot my zaurus, will it be messed up, or should I try another connection and try the upgrade again?

Thank you,
Jon
Capn_Fish
I'd play it safe and redo the upgrade (after disabling auto-sleep smile.gif)
Jon_J
I had to reboot after it froze up when I tried to connect again, when I rebooted, X won't start now.
How can I finish the upgrade outside of X ??

EDIT: Reflashing...
I think I'll stay with pdaxii13-5.4.9 for now.
Meanie
QUOTE(Jon_J @ Oct 4 2007, 11:33 AM) *
I've two questions.
1. If I upgrade from pdaxii13-5.4.9 to pdaxii13v2, over my internet connection, will I lose my settings I have made to these files?
/etc/pcmcia/config
/etc/pcmcia/herms.conf
/etc/pcmcia/hostap_cs.conf
/etc/pcmcia/network.opts

2. I have pdaxii13-5.4.9 sally installed to NAND (I only have one thing installed on the hard drive, firefox)
Do all these updates install to NAND only? I have 51 MB remaining on my NAND

Thank you,
Jon


The /etc/pcmcia/* files will most likely be clobbered up so you are advised to back them up and restore your files after the upgrade. This is just the way how ipkg upgrade works, ie it removes the entire package and installs the new package...

No idea how upgrade behaves in this case. I would assume it will install to the same location that the original package was in but i don't know.
Meanie
QUOTE(Jon_J @ Oct 5 2007, 09:16 AM) *
I had to reboot after it froze up when I tried to connect again, when I rebooted, X won't start now.
How can I finish the upgrade outside of X ??

EDIT: Reflashing...
I think I'll stay with pdaxii13-5.4.9 for now.


you could had just run ipkg upgrade
Jon_J
QUOTE(Meanie @ Oct 4 2007, 07:08 PM) *
QUOTE(Jon_J @ Oct 5 2007, 09:16 AM) *
I had to reboot after it froze up when I tried to connect again, when I rebooted, X won't start now.
How can I finish the upgrade outside of X ??

EDIT: Reflashing...
I think I'll stay with pdaxii13-5.4.9 for now.


you could had just run ipkg upgrade

Thank you for the info. I wouldn't have been able to figure out how to get connected without X running.
Anyway, I have reinstalled and upgraded and have my first openbox desktop showing. smile.gif
(I installed pdaxiiv2-upgrade_4.4.0-alpha2_armv5tel.ipk)
The console says I have this version now.
pdaxii13v2 build 5.5.0-alpha1 "sally" - Linux 2.4.20 for SHARP Terrier (XScale-PXA270)

There must be an error in the text, I'm sure I installed alpha2

EDIT
I also have the PNG problem with icons and wallpaper in Rox. There was mention of libpng and libcairo having conflicts on previous posts in this thread. Is there a different version of libpng that would resolve this?
When I type rox in a terminal, I get this.
CODE
/use/apps/ROX-Filer/ROX-Filer: /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0: no version information available (required by /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2)

I have rox_2.5 installed. (I'm going to try rox 2.6.1 from kkazakov13's feed)
rox 2.6.1 made no difference in the icon/wallpaper png issue.

EDIT 2
When everything updated/installed I had 19 MB left on my NAND, so I uninstalled some things that I don't use and now have 30 MB on NAND.
I uninstalled these packages:
gthumb
links browser (I tried it in the past & didn't like it)
xpdf (was from previous version, since epdfview is less than half the size of xpdf)
libffmpg (I doubt I'll watch movies on this zaurus, I may install this later)
pidgin (I don't use chat clients)
there may be one or 2 more that I removed, but the only library I removed was libffmpg.
Thanks again,
Jon
Meanie
QUOTE(Jon_J @ Oct 5 2007, 11:28 AM) *
QUOTE(Meanie @ Oct 4 2007, 07:08 PM) *
QUOTE(Jon_J @ Oct 5 2007, 09:16 AM) *
I had to reboot after it froze up when I tried to connect again, when I rebooted, X won't start now.
How can I finish the upgrade outside of X ??

EDIT: Reflashing...
I think I'll stay with pdaxii13-5.4.9 for now.


you could had just run ipkg upgrade

Thank you for the info. I wouldn't have been able to figure out how to get connected without X running.
Anyway, I have reinstalled and upgraded and have my first openbox desktop showing. smile.gif
(I installed pdaxiiv2-upgrade_4.4.0-alpha2_armv5tel.ipk)
The console says I have this version now.
pdaxii13v2 build 5.5.0-alpha1 "sally" - Linux 2.4.20 for SHARP Terrier (XScale-PXA270)

There must be an error in the text, I'm sure I installed alpha2

EDIT
I also have the PNG problem with icons and wallpaper in Rox. There was mention of libpng and libcairo having conflicts on previous posts in this thread. Is there a different version of libpng that would resolve this?
When I type rox in a terminal, I get this.
CODE
/use/apps/ROX-Filer/ROX-Filer: /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0: no version information available (required by /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2)

I have rox_2.5 installed. (I'm going to try rox 2.6.1 from kkazakov13's feed)
rox 2.6.1 made no difference in the icon/wallpaper png issue.

EDIT 2
When everything updated/installed I had 19 MB left on my NAND, so I uninstalled some things that I don't use and now have 30 MB on NAND.
I uninstalled these packages:
gthumb
links browser (I tried it in the past & didn't like it)
xpdf (was from previous version, since epdfview is less than half the size of xpdf)
libffmpg (I doubt I'll watch movies on this zaurus, I may install this later)
pidgin (I don't use chat clients)
there may be one or 2 more that I removed, but the only library I removed was libffmpg.
Thanks again,
Jon


rox is on the ignored list and should not be upgraded

libpng should have:

libpng12.so
libpng12.so.0
libpng12.so.0.12.0
libpng.so
libpng.so.3
libpng.so.3.12.0

libcairo should have:
libcairo.so
libcairo.so.2
libcairo.so.2.11.2
Jon_J
QUOTE(Meanie @ Oct 4 2007, 09:51 PM) *
QUOTE(Jon_J @ Oct 5 2007, 11:28 AM) *
QUOTE(Meanie @ Oct 4 2007, 07:08 PM) *
QUOTE(Jon_J @ Oct 5 2007, 09:16 AM) *
I had to reboot after it froze up when I tried to connect again, when I rebooted, X won't start now.
How can I finish the upgrade outside of X ??

EDIT: Reflashing...
I think I'll stay with pdaxii13-5.4.9 for now.


you could had just run ipkg upgrade

Thank you for the info. I wouldn't have been able to figure out how to get connected without X running.
Anyway, I have reinstalled and upgraded and have my first openbox desktop showing. smile.gif
(I installed pdaxiiv2-upgrade_4.4.0-alpha2_armv5tel.ipk)
The console says I have this version now.
pdaxii13v2 build 5.5.0-alpha1 "sally" - Linux 2.4.20 for SHARP Terrier (XScale-PXA270)

There must be an error in the text, I'm sure I installed alpha2

EDIT
I also have the PNG problem with icons and wallpaper in Rox. There was mention of libpng and libcairo having conflicts on previous posts in this thread. Is there a different version of libpng that would resolve this?
When I type rox in a terminal, I get this.
CODE
/use/apps/ROX-Filer/ROX-Filer: /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0: no version information available (required by /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2)

I have rox_2.5 installed. (I'm going to try rox 2.6.1 from kkazakov13's feed)
rox 2.6.1 made no difference in the icon/wallpaper png issue.

EDIT 2
When everything updated/installed I had 19 MB left on my NAND, so I uninstalled some things that I don't use and now have 30 MB on NAND.
I uninstalled these packages:
gthumb
links browser (I tried it in the past & didn't like it)
xpdf (was from previous version, since epdfview is less than half the size of xpdf)
libffmpg (I doubt I'll watch movies on this zaurus, I may install this later)
pidgin (I don't use chat clients)
there may be one or 2 more that I removed, but the only library I removed was libffmpg.
Thanks again,
Jon


rox is on the ignored list and should not be upgraded

libpng should have:

libpng12.so
libpng12.so.0
libpng12.so.0.12.0
libpng.so
libpng.so.3
libpng.so.3.12.0

libcairo should have:
libcairo.so
libcairo.so.2
libcairo.so.2.11.2

I had the correct version of cairo installed and mine matched the above.
I had libpng 1.2.5 installed and these didn't match. I uninstalled 1.2.5 and found libpng_1.2.12_armv5tel.ipk on kkazakov13's feed.
Once installed they matched as listed above.
I also went back to rox 2.5
I launched rox in a console and got no errors, but the icons and wallpaper still don't work as before.
(gray background and question mark icons) I tried dragging my wallpaper into rox backdrop and got this message.
"Couldn't recognize the image file format. Backdrop removed."

EDIT
I switched back to openbox. (Still in pdaxii13v2) The cards app still only has little white boxes with red 'X's in them and they don't change when you dismount a card. (It does show that it is "empty" if no card is mounted)
Jon_J
NOTE this is for pdaxii13v2
I attached a screencap showing the rox desktop and the cards applet open on the taskbar.
Screencap makes *.png captures when the necessary files are installed, but GQview cannot show *.png images, it just shows a "broken" icon for my screencap I attached here.
Also, GQview doesn't show any *.png files in it's file browser. I'm in /usr/share/pixmaps/ and there are only two *.xpm files and one *.svg file showing in GQview's file browser.
Jon_J
I browsed kkazakov13's feed to see if I had any files that needed updated, that weren't caught in the upgrade process and found these 4 files needed updating.
I checked with the latest "ignored" list and none of these were on it, so I updated these 4 libraries:
glib2_2.14.0_armv5tel.ipk
libgphoto2_2.4.0_armv5tel.ipk
pango_1.18.1_armv5tel.ipk
poppler_0.5.4-1_armv5tel.ipk

When I rebooted, my fonts on the desktop and in GQview are all square boxes.
All the filenames in rox filer are square boxes also.
I'm not sure which one is causing this, but I'll go through them one-by-one and install the previous version.
I'll report back after I uninstall/reinstall prior versions and find the "culprit" that is causing these square boxes to replace my fonts.
EDIT
I found it was pango that was causing my problems, I uninstalled the newer version above and re-installed pango_1.10.0_armv5tel.ipk
smile.gif
I still have the *.png problem with icons, etc..
deniscallies
Hello,

after upgrading my C-1000 recognises no CF anymore. First i thought it is only a WLAN issue
then i tried a CF Card with my files and nothing happens. If i try a cardctl ident it segfaults...
do i have to reinstall the whole system ? huh.gif

thanks, Denis
Jon_J
QUOTE(Jon_J @ Oct 5 2007, 11:12 AM) *
NOTE this is for pdaxii13v2
I attached a screencap showing the rox desktop and the cards applet open on the taskbar.
Screencap makes *.png captures when the necessary files are installed, but GQview cannot show *.png images, it just shows a "broken" icon for my screencap I attached here.
Also, GQview doesn't show any *.png files in it's file browser. I'm in /usr/share/pixmaps/ and there are only two *.xpm files and one *.svg file showing in GQview's file browser.

I found the solution to my problem with *.png images not rendering in Rox and icons/wallpaper etc !
I was checking gqview preferences and under "Filtering" I found that *.png (Portable Network Graphics) selection was unchecked.
I placed an 'X' in the selection and all my icons and wallpaper now work!! smile.gif smile.gif
I wonder how this selection got de-selected in the first place?
May be when I uninstalled older version of libpng and installed newer version.
WOW! I'm happy now! smile.gif all my folders show and the mounted folders are indicated.
The Cards applet on the taskbar is also back to normal.
I didn't know gqview had that much control over the GUI in rox and pdaxii13. hmmm. (I'm writing this down for later reference).
I attached 2 screenshots, one of gqview (where above setting is located) and my desktop showing mounted directories and the Cards applet.
I hope these attachments don't disappear like several of mine have in the last 2-3 weeks.
adf
Mpkayer via Quasar media player, when playing zoomed makes the icewm panel vanish. I have no further info yet; just thought I'd mention it as quasar is a sweet gui and will probably see heavy use.
Jon_J
Just upgraded with pdaxiiv2-upgrade_4.4.0-alpha3_armv5tel.ipk and did ipkg update and ipkg upgrade.
I decided to install gthumb on my hard drive, so I uninstalled it from flash and downloaded and installed it to /mnt/ide/
When launching it, it gives error about missing libltdl.so.3
I searched the forums and found that this library is contained in libtool. Where can I find libtool so I can get this library?
I also searched the forum for libltdl, and only found one old attachment that is now gone.
climber
Take a look in here:

http://z.drun.net/packages/libtool_1.5.22_armv5tel.ipk


climber
Jon_J
QUOTE(climber @ Oct 18 2007, 05:36 AM) *

Thank you climber, I extracted all the libltdl.so.x files from libtool and placed them in /usr/lib/ and gthumb worked. smile.gif
scheck.r
why not installing the package the usual way like this;
- 1st way: in a terminal
CODE
wget http://z.drun.net/packages/libtool_1.5.22_armv5tel.ipk
ipkg install /path_to_the_downloaded_package_file/libtool_1.5.22_arm5vtel.ipk

- 2nd way:
CODE
wget http://z.drun.net/packages/libtool_1.5.22_armv5tel.ipk

open the package manager, click on first icon on the top left corner and find your package in the open file dialog
- 3rd way:
open the package manager and go to settings
add
QUOTE
to the feeds
click on the update icon
go to available packages and install what you want
Jon_J
QUOTE
why not installing the package the usual way

1. I only wanted the libraries for gthumb. The full libtool package install takes about 1MB.
2. I'm trying to keep my installs onto flash to a minimum, and I install libraries to flash.
scheck.r
Thanks for the explanations
Meanie
just updated to alpha4 now with support for new version of openbox

adf
QUOTE(Meanie @ Oct 21 2007, 06:36 PM) *
just updated to alpha4 now with support for new version of openbox

Just did the alpha1 update on a fresh install--the Z is installing the software I typically add atm. when it is done, I'll reboot and run the alpha4 update. At worst it will be instructive wink.gif

Jon_J
Meanie, is there a way I can add packages to the "Ignored" list when upgrading, using "pdaxiiv2-upgrade_5.5.0-alpha4_armv5tel.ipk" ?
I usually remove applications that I don't use after the upgrade process, and after this latest upgrade, I only had 17 MB left on root.
I'm afraid in future upgrades, I'll run out of root space when new packages are introduced in the upgrade.
Some of the packages I usually uninstall are 2-3 MB or larger.
If I really want to keep a large package, I'll re-install it to the hard drive.

Thank you,
Jon
EDIT:
On an unrelated subject, Openbox Configuration Manager will not appear on the menu.
You need to edit its desktop file to make it appear. It will now be in the menu selection, "Other"
change this
Icon=openbox
to
Icon=openbox.png
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