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RX Shorty
Hi all!

Well I thought it would be nice to have a topic about who has or going to get the OpenMoko Freerunner.
You all know (or not) it is a "Open" Smartphone.


As you can see no keyboard, just a touchscreen.
Well the full specs here:

-A very high resolution touch screen (1.7" x 2.27" - 43mm x 58mm) 480x640 pixels
-128MB SDRAM memory to allow operation of many applications at once
-Internal GPS module for map and tracking programs
-Bluetooth for local data exchange
-802.11 b/g WiFi for fast web browsing and data transfer
-A 400Mhz processor
-A hardware Graphics Accelerator chip allowing the acceleration of a limited set of operations.
-2 3D accelerometers so that the phone can know its orientation.
-2 LEDs illuminating the two buttons on the rim of the case (
-Tri-band GSM and GPRS for North America (850/1800/1900 Mhz) and the rest of the world (900/1800/1900 Mhz)
-USB Host function with 500mA power allowing you to power USB devices for short periods

But now the question.
Who is going to get this sweet piece of Moko?

Myself I orderd one and waiting for it smile.gif
What about you?

Ciao rolleyes.gif


Capn_Fish
I thought it had a 500 MHz CPU?

Anyway, I'm going to do my best to get my hands on one, but my budget is working against me as hard as it can sad.gif
RX Shorty
As far as I know it is 400 in idle state and 500 in working state.

Yeah it is pretty expensive. But all gadgets are expensive mellow.gif
I bought my unit at pulster.de
It has been shipped today, so it will arrive this week! biggrin.gif
zogs
I want an keyboard...why freerunner doesn't have one??

RX Shorty
QUOTE(zogs @ Jul 1 2008, 10:05 PM) *
I want an keyboard...why freerunner doesn't have one??


They wanted to look to much like the iphone ph34r.gif

That is also one of the things I really miss at this device, then again a touchscreen keyboard should do the trick (still not as good though) wink.gif
Capn_Fish
QUOTE(zogs @ Jul 1 2008, 03:05 PM) *
I want an keyboard...why freerunner doesn't have one??

Oh, yeah...I'm also sort of holding out for the N810-form-factor version smile.gif
stupkid
QUOTE(Capn_Fish @ Jul 1 2008, 03:58 PM) *
Oh, yeah...I'm also sort of holding out for the N810-form-factor version smile.gif


I guess you are looking for something like this (-WM of course):

http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=49518

I've been waiting on Openmoko to get the consumer hardware finished for 2 years or so. I've already committed the $$ for it and I'm looking forward to it. While a keyboard would be nice my current phone is on it's last legs and I would like to see the Openmoko project succeed. I also don't see a lack of keyboard being a HUGE problem since there is USB and Bluetooth on the device.

Overall, I think it will be a pretty sweet phone. That probably won't come to pass until a year from now when the software matures. The good news is that any later devices will be able to expand on the existing code base.

For me it is all about supporting a open platform (more open than Android) with my money. So, I guess I'm a zealot that way. The hardware and current software short comings are not relevant to me when looking at the benefits of freedom on such a platform. I can understand people not thinking it is cool, because there is better hardware and software (see right above). Long term though, I feel that I am making the right choice in supporting OM to keep producing open hardware.
Capn_Fish
QUOTE(stupkid @ Jul 2 2008, 04:20 PM) *
I guess you are looking for something like this (-WM of course):

http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=49518


Yeah, pretty much.

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I've been waiting on Openmoko to get the consumer hardware finished for 2 years or so. I've already committed the $$ for it and I'm looking forward to it. While a keyboard would be nice my current phone is on it's last legs and I would like to see the Openmoko project succeed. I also don't see a lack of keyboard being a HUGE problem since there is USB and Bluetooth on the device.


I agree. It is only a phone (I know, it's more than that, but still). Still, I need excuses not to get one (my budget couldn't handle it).
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For me it is all about supporting a open platform (more open than Android) with my money. So, I guess I'm a zealot that way. The hardware and current software short comings are not relevant to me when looking at the benefits of freedom on such a platform. I can understand people not thinking it is cool, because there is better hardware and software (see right above). Long term though, I feel that I am making the right choice in supporting OM to keep producing open hardware.

I totally agree with that. Android is a step in the right direction, but it's not quite what I want. I guess that makes me a zealot too biggrin.gif
ofels
QUOTE(stupkid @ Jul 2 2008, 11:20 PM) *
QUOTE(Capn_Fish @ Jul 1 2008, 03:58 PM) *
Oh, yeah...I'm also sort of holding out for the N810-form-factor version smile.gif


I guess you are looking for something like this (-WM of course):

http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=49518



From the specs:
Operating System Windows Mobile® 6.1 Professional

So bye bye device afaic.

Oliver
RX Shorty
Well totally agree what stupkid sais.

My OpenMoko Freerunner arrived today smile.gif


Ah nice welcome from Pullster smile.gif


The OpenMoko boxed opend.

Got it running right now, but as said there needs a lot to be done.
Then again you can call message etc.... if that's enough for you...
But I am going to explore the device smile.gif
stupkid
QUOTE(ofels @ Jul 3 2008, 03:16 AM) *
QUOTE(stupkid @ Jul 2 2008, 11:20 PM) *

I guess you are looking for something like this (-WM of course):

http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=49518


From the specs:
Operating System Windows Mobile® 6.1 Professional


That's why I said -WM or minus Windows Mobile. A little cryptic of me I suppose. Hardware like that with completely running Linux would be awesome.


RX shorty, that is hilarious that Pulster ships with gummy bears how German of them. tongue.gif
RX Shorty
QUOTE(stupkid @ Jul 3 2008, 06:02 PM) *
RX shorty, that is hilarious that Pulster ships with gummy bears how German of them. tongue.gif


Hehe yeah! That's why I took a picture of it smile.gif
Well good service, that is one thing for sure! laugh.gif
zmiq2
RX,

can you please post some info on the device?

- what internet browser uses? ajax/flash support?

- what is battery performance ?

- external speaker for handsfree operation ?

- video playback performance ?

- touchscreen sensivity/performance? compared to an iphone?

I think I'll wait for the 3G version... and maybe in the meanwhile I'll get an iphone.....

RX Shorty
QUOTE(zmiq2 @ Jul 3 2008, 09:50 PM) *
RX,

can you please post some info on the device?
Offcourse smile.gif

- what internet browser uses? ajax/flash support?
There is no browser standard installed, but you can install Minimo (mozilla based, not tested yet)

- what is battery performance ?
Cannot tell you much about that right now, but what I read around the mailinglist etc, it is not poor but not very good either.

- external speaker for handsfree operation ?
Yes there is an Handsfree option that works pretty good smile.gif

- video playback performance ?
Also a media player isn't installed by default, need to test it sorry.

- touchscreen sensivity/performance? compared to an iphone?
The performance is very good. Also the sensivity is good, you can tap really fast with losing a tap.

I think I'll wait for the 3G version... and maybe in the meanwhile I'll get an iphone.....
All I can say is that the Iphone is Ready to Use, Openmoko needs some time to play with, then again you have something very special biggrin.gif


I will let you know if I tested more, then again I have to wait for the weekend before I have some time rolleyes.gif
stupkid
According to the this thread on the mailing list:

http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/commun...uly/020339.html

As power management gets implemented battery life is improving. The GTA01 (FreeRunner is GTA02) had terrible battery life, 8 hours of operation from what I read. With new software it is getting 21 hours and there are even more things to implement. So, battery life will get better, but currently power management needs a lot of work.
RX Shorty
QUOTE(stupkid @ Jul 3 2008, 11:00 PM) *
According to the this thread on the mailing list:

http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/commun...uly/020339.html

As power management gets implemented battery life is improving. The GTA01 (FreeRunner is GTA02) had terrible battery life, 8 hours of operation from what I read. With new software it is getting 21 hours and there are even more things to implement. So, battery life will get better, but currently power management needs a lot of work.


True, Well I must admit that the software that is on the device (standard at delivery) is pretty buggy. It crashed about 2 times. The sounds goes off and on about specific times.
Ah well... I need to check if a reflash helps.
zogs
neo freerunner ordered...
howdouknow
is it possible to use a bluetooth headset with the freerunner?
stupkid
QUOTE(howdouknow @ Aug 6 2008, 04:04 PM) *
is it possible to use a bluetooth headset with the freerunner?


Yes, it is possible. There are some audio quality issues that are being looked into at the moment with A2DP.
dhns
QUOTE(speculatrix @ Apr 6 2009, 06:05 PM) *
and the final answer to the poll is "no-one any more"

Nonsense. Linuxdevices:
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Openmoko: Next-gen phone bites dust, but FreeRunner lives
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