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espi
Most of you have likely heard of this thing, but I'm really starting to become interested in it.

http://openpandora.org/

Pic:
http://openpandora.org/bigone.jpg
Capn_Fish
I'd get one if:

-It had a better (eg, higher-res, sunlight-readable (already done?)) display
-I knew it would run Debian/other standard Linux distro with hardware graphics acceleration and mostly complete other hardware support

Other than those issues (IMO), it looks amazing.
espi
From what I can tell it can run Ubuntu and it seems it may come with that installed.
The rez is greater than the Z but the screen does NOT ROTATE into tablet mode sad.gif
It is a touchscreen though.

Quick specs for anyone outside link adverse
* ARM® Cortex™-A8 600Mhz+ CPU running Linux
* 430-MHz TMS320C64x+™ DSP Core
* PowerVR SGX OpenGL 2.0 ES compliant 3D hardware
* 800x480 4.3" 16.7 million colours touchscreen LCD
* Wifi 802.11b/g, Bluetooth & High Speed USB 2.0 Host
* Dual SDHC card slots & SVideo TV output
* Dual Analogue and Digital gaming controls
* 43 button QWERTY and numeric keypad
* Around 10+ Hours battery life

Distributor says it could potentially run Doom 3, for whatever that's worth (probably in wireframe mode) once it's open sourced.
Capn_Fish
Somehow I thought it had a 400x240 or 320x240 screen. My qualms are gone, if the above is true smile.gif

On the Doom 3 front: I thought the engine was already open-sourced?
Chero

Just check out the videos on the blog page.

I think I like it ! rolleyes.gif
desertrat
It seems like they've toned down the keyboard a bit. Doesn't look as ugly as their earlier mockups. If only they could make a version with a Z like keyboard and remove the gaming controls then it really will be the Z replacement.
pelrun
Damn, I think I might be sold - held off on the gp2x, held off on the eee and all the other netbooks, but this is harder to resist...
Capn_Fish
I'm actually sort of hoping to ditch my N810 for one. The N810's hardware is mismade in a good deal of ways that aren't readily visible (sound access, graphics acceleration, wi-fi drivers, power management, etc.), and the Pandora seems much better.
harvell
QUOTE(Capn_Fish @ Sep 3 2008, 07:20 PM) *
I'm actually sort of hoping to ditch my N810 for one. The N810's hardware is mismade in a good deal of ways that aren't readily visible (sound access, graphics acceleration, wi-fi drivers, power management, etc.), and the Pandora seems much better.


lol.... you just convinced me not to get a N810 and wait for this smile.gif
Cresho
This Looks Interesting!
Capn_Fish
QUOTE(harvell @ Sep 3 2008, 11:27 PM) *
QUOTE(Capn_Fish @ Sep 3 2008, 07:20 PM) *
I'm actually sort of hoping to ditch my N810 for one. The N810's hardware is mismade in a good deal of ways that aren't readily visible (sound access, graphics acceleration, wi-fi drivers, power management, etc.), and the Pandora seems much better.


lol.... you just convinced me not to get a N810 and wait for this smile.gif

While I'm not saying that's a bad idea, just remember that I tend to have a very different opinion on matters such as this than other people (nobody else has complained about the sound or power management, AFAIK, for instance).
matthis
if only it had no joysticks and more keys instead... The fact that it does not "look" serious means I can't use it many places.
RX Shorty
Well also want it, but it takes some while to finish I guess sad.gif
barmalei
Sooo... The pre-order sites are up. Anyone is going to jump in?
Tom61
QUOTE(barmalei @ Sep 30 2008, 07:48 PM) *
Sooo... The pre-order sites are up. Anyone is going to jump in?


Too poor at the moment, but I'd take the wait-and-see approach even if I had the money. The more practical aspects of a handheld platform like this seem to be secondary to gaming in the minds of the developers and the current community surrounding it.
relapse808
they have Ubuntu running on it now.

http://www.hardocp.com/news.html?news=MzUy...HVzaWFzdCwsLDE=


edit : I have preodered it so ill let you guys know how it goes once i get it in November.
canguy247
QUOTE(relapse808 @ Sep 30 2008, 04:40 PM) *
they have Ubuntu running on it now.

http://www.hardocp.com/news.html?news=MzUy...HVzaWFzdCwsLDE=


edit : I have preodered it so ill let you guys know how it goes once i get it in November.



My preorder is in too!
Capn_Fish
I got one in too!

We're among the .0000005% of the world's population to be getting one!
ArchiMark
I tried to pre-order one, but I couldn't get PayPal option to actually work or be available to use after about the 2nd step or so in checkout process.....

mad.gif

InSearchOf
QUOTE(Capn_Fish @ Sep 30 2008, 09:12 PM) *
I got one in too!

We're among the .0000005% of the world's population to be getting one!


I guess that means you can sell me the n810 :-)

Late
Chero
I ordered one as well . smile.gif
I'm pretty sure it will be capable of more than gaming ...

Chero.
ArchiMark
QUOTE(Chero @ Oct 1 2008, 12:01 PM) *
I ordered one as well . smile.gif
I'm pretty sure it will be capable of more than gaming ...

Chero.


That's what I'm hoping too, Chero....

FWIW, I got email back from Pandora that I could order through PayPal by just sending them funds through PayPal using their PayPal account address. They just asked that I get through checkout process just before making payment and copying the info on the order summary page and pasting it into the PayPal payment message box...did that and they sent me an email back confirming that I ordered a Pandora....

Just thought this might be helpful info to someone else who might want to order via PayPal....

Anyway, this lil' thing better be good or Capn_Fish is in big trouble.....

wink.gif
chyang
QUOTE(ArchiMark @ Oct 2 2008, 06:22 AM) *
QUOTE(Chero @ Oct 1 2008, 12:01 PM) *
I ordered one as well . smile.gif
I'm pretty sure it will be capable of more than gaming ...

Chero.


That's what I'm hoping too, Chero....

FWIW, I got email back from Pandora that I could order through PayPal by just sending them funds through PayPal using their PayPal account address. They just asked that I get through checkout process just before making payment and copying the info on the order summary page and pasting it into the PayPal payment message box...did that and they sent me an email back confirming that I ordered a Pandora....

Just thought this might be helpful info to someone else who might want to order via PayPal....

Anyway, this lil' thing better be good or Capn_Fish is in big trouble.....

wink.gif

Does it accept preorder outside of europe? I can only see it supports those areas only.
Capn_Fish
It supports worldwide ordering (IIRC that's what their site said).
ArchiMark
QUOTE(chyang @ Oct 2 2008, 01:48 AM) *
Does it accept preorder outside of europe? I can only see it supports those areas only.

Pandora Ordering

Here's link to ordering, try this one...



chyang
QUOTE(Capn_Fish @ Oct 2 2008, 07:45 PM) *
It supports worldwide ordering (IIRC that's what their site said).

I guess it doesn't support. I cannot find China in all the pre-ordering sites.
chyang
QUOTE(ArchiMark @ Oct 2 2008, 08:54 PM) *
QUOTE(chyang @ Oct 2 2008, 01:48 AM) *
Does it accept preorder outside of europe? I can only see it supports those areas only.

Pandora Ordering

Here's link to ordering, try this one...

Thanks, it helps.
BTW: are we obliged to pay for the tariff for it? Or they can deliver in USA without our interaction in the whole process?
Chero
QUOTE(ArchiMark @ Oct 2 2008, 12:22 AM) *
Anyway, this lil' thing better be good or Capn_Fish is in big trouble.....
wink.gif


It already runs ubuntu and the GP2X can boot and run OZ-OPIE and GPE ...
Debian isn't too far away then ...

Looking at the speed of the ubuntu video, I must say I'm impressed. This really beats the speed of the Z (some will hate me for writing this). Too bad it doesn't have a swivel, but then again, I hardly use a Z in portrait mode...

starting to countdown days before arrival ...
Chero.
pelrun
Oh dear, I seem to have preordered it too - going *way* over budget this month D:
ArchiMark
QUOTE(chyang @ Oct 2 2008, 06:43 AM) *
Thanks, it helps.
BTW: are we obliged to pay for the tariff for it? Or they can deliver in USA without our interaction in the whole process?


Well, all I know is that I've never had to pay any customs duties for any items I've ordered from outside USA...

HTH...
espi
Wow, I've started a real topic and am just getting back to it-
For those who got 'em ordered, updates would be greatly greatly appreciated by all!
I'm in too deep with my TC1100 and C3100 ATM (money and time both short) but won't hesitate to throw down for this thing if it's well received.
I'm still thinking about the Sharp D4 though...I mean an X86 processor in your pocket is the real thing, but it's still too big...
if the OQO Model 3 is a clamshell, well, someone's finally nailed it.
Capn_Fish
I'm sure everybody will hear about how the Pandora turned out in late November/early December (I know I'll let everybody know in one form or another).
speculatrix
if only it had a better keyboard, it makes it seem, well, like a toy (which I guess it is).
Chero
QUOTE(speculatrix @ Oct 4 2008, 10:24 AM) *
if only it had a better keyboard, it makes it seem, well, like a toy (which I guess it is).


This toy now will get 256Mb RAM and 512Mb NAND !!!
Default distro is going to be Angstrom, ubuntu-downloadable-SD-Image available.

Sounds great for a toy,
Chero.
Capn_Fish
I don't care what people call it. It runs Linux, has insane specs (the extra RAM is going to be AWESOME), and is as open-source as they come.

I'm building my Angstrom toolchain as I type this biggrin.gif
ArchiMark
I'm ready for Pandora....

Just hope that it doesn't turn out to be Pandora's box....

wink.gif
canguy247
Ooops. I need some tissue.
relapse808



Guys in case you havent read and you preordered I have some info. The good news is that the device is now getting 512MB of NAND and 256MB of RAM. The bad news is that they are switching banks and many credit cards will be refunded. They are sending a newsletter soon. If it is refunded you will have to reorder the device. They are giving the ram at no cost because of this issue.
ntw1103
Depending on what the keyboard is like, I might get one. I mainly use my zaurus for typing, so if I were to replace it, the keyboard would need to be good. other than that it looks like a good platform.
espi
Ok, damn, that extra bump of NAND and RAM is...awesome! Why o why couldn't it have a tablet screen!?! As for arm-based systems, though, I suppose you don't get much more full-featured than this sucker!
Capn_Fish
QUOTE(espi @ Nov 4 2008, 01:18 PM) *
Why o why couldn't it have a tablet screen!?!


According to the FAQ on their homepage, because it's patented.
Tom61
It looks like they're looking for developers to write apps and do kernel work to seed with pre-release units still: http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?showtopic=45218

Getting developers from the Zaurus community to work on it would be great, IMO, as the productivity of the Zaurus could be moved to the Pandora.
the_oak
Nobody has received theirs yet?
Capn_Fish
More delays... sad.gif

They're hoping to have some out by the end of the year, but projecting it may be Jan 2009 before people get them.
speculatrix
they're waiting for Duke Nukem Forever to be released
Capn_Fish
QUOTE(speculatrix @ Dec 4 2008, 03:57 PM) *
they're waiting for Duke Nukem Forever to be released

That could take a while... laugh.gif
Chero
QUOTE(Capn_Fish @ Dec 4 2008, 10:03 PM) *
More delays... sad.gif

They're hoping to have some out by the end of the year, but projecting it may be Jan 2009 before people get them.


My wife and kids don't mind, I might spend some time with them during the Xmas holidays if I don't have my pandora by that time ... wink.gif
ArchiMark
Hey kids, just received the infamous refund/re-order email regarding Pandora...

If I re-order this will be the 3rd time!

First time PayPal, that got refunded for some reason, so paid again with credit card and now that's being refunded....

While I do understand that it's not really the Pandora people's fault, it does seem excessively complicated....

Anyway, now that I have a chance to either go or no go on this lil' guy, I'm really debating whether or not to re-order.

One reason for my hesitation is that I really don't need or would use the Pandora as a portable gaming machine, just don't have the time for that given my work schedule...

So, my main reason for buying if I do, is as more of a scaled up Zaurus replacement. Specifically, I'd want Pandora to be similar to the last setup I had on the 3200 I just sold. I put Debian/LXDE on it per the forums here and could use Zaurus like a very small linux laptop in terms of apps...

Now, I know that from Pandora forums that I should in principle be able to do the same kind of thing on it, but I realize that given the ARM cpu I'll be very dependent upon a small group of hacksters to put out a workable distro/apps to do this. And given the Pandora dev community on games, I wonder if I'd end up with the setup that I want...

Also, concerned that while the display and keyboard on the Pandora are larger than the 3200, they're not that big and thus wonder how usable it will be for my purposes....

So, anyone here want to take a stab at convincing me that I should re-order?

wink.gif
Capn_Fish
Ubuntu's officially supporting the Pandora's architecture (armv7a) from 9.04. Is that enough for you?
ArchiMark
QUOTE(Capn_Fish @ Dec 6 2008, 07:50 PM) *
Ubuntu's officially supporting the Pandora's architecture (armv7a) from 9.04. Is that enough for you?


Well, that's a pretty good start, Capn.....

Thanks!

smile.gif


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