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cwaig
After following the thread about task switchers, I took a look at Yakty's Keyhelper application, and thought the functionality for swapping tasks was handy, but it didn't work with my Pocketop - so I've updated IRK, poaching some code from the Keyhelper application to add task switching from the Pocketop/Targus IR keyboard smile.gif

I've provided two functions for task switching - one which simply swaps to the next task, and another that pops up a list of current tasks and lets you select from it (both taken from Keyhelper).

IRK 0.11 should be released tommorow - except I don't have my old IRK website anymore. Is there somewhere here I could upload the new version to?
Greg2
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IRK 0.11 should be released tommorow - except I don't have my old IRK website anymore. Is there somewhere here I could upload the new version to?

You can upload it to the ZUG D/L section with the information, then it shouldn't take offroadgeek to long to approve and host it.

Thanks for your work

Greg
cwaig
Ok, I've uploaded IRK v0.11.0 to the ZUG downloads area now....no doubt it'll appear RSN.

There might be a v0.12.0 soon as well - I've received some patches from Japan to make IRK play nice with Xqt and add support for another Palm IR keyboard, just gotta find time to integrate them....
VeeDubb
Any chance of seeing this compiled towork on OpenZaurus 3.3.6 with the newer GCC version??
aig
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Any chance of seeing this compiled towork on OpenZaurus 3.3.6 with the newer GCC version??


That would be really sweet!

~AIG
cwaig
No.
lardman
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No.


lol

I will cross compile it if you can't be bothered to set up a GCC 3.x toolchain, but you'll have to tell me what I need by way of source, etc.


Simon
cwaig
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lol

I will cross compile it if you can't be bothered to set up a GCC 3.x toolchain, but you'll have to tell me what I need by way of source, etc.


Simon


Not a case of cann't be bothered, just no time to setup the toolchain - and no incentive either (as I won't move to an incompatible ROM).

I didn't think breaking compatibility was a bright move for the OZ folks - in these days of reduced developer activity it struck me as a bizarre decision...

Mail me for the source if you want to compile it yourself...
Mickeyl
Just for the records... it is our belief that to discover new grounds (read: more speed, increased stability, new features) you have to break compatibility. Developer situation is irrelevant as we always had only 2 and a half one and I don't see signs of new people regardless of us continuing to use an outdated compiler.

We will break compatibility even more (read: totally), when we move to a faster and smaller libc (uClibc). Oh and btw., the Opie team will break compatibility also, because they will move to Qt/Embedded 4.

The SharpROM for the SA-models is outdated and unmaintained anyway, so why try to be compatible?
rrashkin
It doesn't seem to be in the ZUG Download yet, unless I'm looking in the wrong place.
badllama77
The only thing keeping me from oz right now is the lack of irk.
Anyone have a decent howto on creating a toolchain or anyone want someone offed for a recompile I am just about ready to kill for it hehe.


badllama
Mickeyl
Where is the source? I can add a irk-package to OpenEmbedded which may be compatible with OZ 3.3.6-pre1.
nixmeister
Just wondering, as I've had problems with certain versions working on my zynergy Z, will this work ok on a 5600???
gentoo
where is it in download area? show 0.10 in search.
pedro-escobar
where is it the ipk file? i can't find it!
Nightruler
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Just wondering, as I've had problems with certain versions working on my zynergy Z, will this work ok on a 5600???


I also can't seam to get v.11 working on my 5600 with Zynergy. Has anyone tried v.10 with Zynergy and know where I can find the older version?

Edit: Found v.10 and that doesn't seam to work with Zynergy either.
cvmiller
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After following the thread about task switchers, I took a look at Yakty's Keyhelper application, and thought the functionality for swapping tasks was handy, but it didn't work with my Pocketop - so I've updated IRK, poaching some code from the Keyhelper application to add task switching from the Pocketop/Targus IR keyboard smile.gif
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I am very pleased to report that IRK 0.11.0 works great with the SL-6000!

Thanks Craig, you rock!

Craig...
[in Ottawa]
Mickeyl
Cool. Is there a stable source URI for 0.11 ?
mshaver
The link in the download section for the 0.11.0 version of IRK is broken. Anyone know another link?
offroadgeek
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The link in the download section for the 0.11.0 version of IRK is broken.  Anyone know another link?


the link is fixed now...
cwaig
I've finally got round to putting my Zaurus page back online......

and in the downloads section, the source for IRKv0.11.0 can be found for them what was wanting to recompile for the newer OZ....
Stigger
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I've finally got round to putting my Zaurus page back online......

and in the downloads section, the source for IRKv0.11.0 can be found for them what was wanting to recompile for the newer OZ....
Cool has anyone managed it because I can't get my copy of oe to compile squat
lardman
What happens with your copy of OE?

Si

P.S. I'll take a look at it this weekend if no-one beats me to it.
Mickeyl
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I've finally got round to putting my Zaurus page back online......

and in the downloads section, the source for IRKv0.11.0 can be found for them what was wanting to recompile for the newer OZ....


Hi. Cool to see that resource back online! Can you check the irk 0.11.tgz please, I think TaskSelector.* is missing.
cwaig
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Hi. Cool to see that resource back online! Can you check the irk 0.11.tgz please, I think TaskSelector.* is missing.


Oops - I forgot to update my makerel script sad.gif
Done now - I've updated the 0.11.0 archive on my site - it should contain the missing files now.
schrojo
If anybody is able to successfully compile this on OZ 3.3.5, please let me know.
aig
IRK v.10 worked great for me on OZ 3.3.5. I think its only IRK and OZ 3.3.6 that has the compiler issue.

~AIG
Stigger
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What happens with your copy of OE?

Si

P.S. I'll take a look at it this weekend if no-one beats me to it.


its been crapping its self looking for some standard headers, but I tried again with oemake this morning and it appears to be doing something
maslovsky
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I've finally got round to putting my Zaurus page back online......

and in the downloads section, the source for IRKv0.11.0 can be found for them what was wanting to recompile for the newer OZ....


The site seems to be down...
cwaig
oops - I took the machine down 'coz some nasty hacker had penetrated the security and was using it as a spam relay. It's back online now.
yzord
Has anyone considered making a profile for IRK to connect up to either the new Stowaway Wireless keyboards or the Belkin Wireless keyboards?
Here are the relevant links:
http://www.thinkoutside.com/products/stowa...rared-palm.html
http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage...oduct_Id=144042

Yz
maslovsky
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oops - I took the machine down 'coz some nasty hacker had penetrated the security and was using it as a spam relay. It's back online now.


OK, thanks, I was able to download the sources.
cwaig
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Has anyone considered making a profile for IRK to connect up to either the new Stowaway Wireless keyboards or the Belkin Wireless keyboards?
Here are the relevant links:
http://www.thinkoutside.com/products/stowa...rared-palm.html
http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage...oduct_Id=144042

Yz


I'm happy to include any support people want to code up (that's how the Targus support got in - Tim Walker added it), or even code up support myself. But someone has to donate a keyboard before I can do it....Pocketop donated their keyboards for free, which is why they're the main ones that are supported...

There's also a Saitek IR keyboard that sell's for $20 in the US that John Rea's trying to add support for at the moment.
smammon
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I'm happy to include any support people want to code up (that's how the Targus support got in - Tim Walker added it), or even code up support myself. But someone has to donate a keyboard before I can do it....Pocketop donated their keyboards for free, which is why they're the main ones that are supported...

There's also a Saitek IR keyboard that sell's for $20 in the US that John Rea's trying to add support for at the moment.


Just sent ThinkOutside a plea and a link to your site asking them to get you a wireless keyboard. One keyboard for all of my devices would be the BALLS!!
bakkeo
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Has anyone considered making a profile for IRK to connect up to either the new Stowaway Wireless keyboards or the Belkin Wireless keyboards?
Here are the relevant links:
http://www.thinkoutside.com/products/stowa...rared-palm.html
http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage...oduct_Id=144042

Yz



Hello,
I modified IRK 0.10 adding a support for the Palm Wireless Keyboard (Palm OEM branded version of ThinkOutside's stowaway keyboard). I have sent the source code to Cwaig last month. I wish that would be some help for him, though my coding is not good... The keyboard works fine with my SL-C750/SL-6000L, but a rubber eraser/chewing gum is needed to put the SL-6000 on it.
cwaig
Thank's for reminding me about that one Takeo - I'd completely forgotten about the patch you sent (sorry).

As I haven't integrated it with the current IRK source yet, I've made the IPK that Takeo produced available on my server now, so anyone wanting a version that supports the Palm Wireless keyboard should go there and download 0.10.1 (only available from the main page, it's not in the downloads section).

I really should get round to clearing up the patch set's I've got outstanding (there's several - ranging from QtX compatibility through improvements to the Targus driver right up to Takeo's Palm Keyboard support). I'm such a lazy arse sometimes wink.gif
smammon
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Hello,
I modified IRK 0.10 adding a support for the Palm Wireless Keyboard (Palm OEM branded version of ThinkOutside's stowaway keyboard).  I have sent the source code to Cwaig last month.  I wish that would be some help for him, though my coding is not good...  The keyboard works fine with my SL-C750/SL-6000L, but a rubber eraser/chewing gum is needed to put the SL-6000 on it.


How difficult is it to work with the 6k on that keyboard? Would it drive me nuts - falling off the stand all the time? Could the problem be fixed with the creative use of a dremel tool?

I use a Kyocera 7135 smartphone too and I'm looking for one keyboard that can make the gyrations around both devices.
cwaig
I wish MicroInnovations would sod off - they point their Kyocera 7135 driver link at my page, and I get a fair amount of mail from people with the Kyocera complaining that IRK doesn't work on it - not surprising, I've never seen a 7135, and they're not on sale in the UK anyway sad.gif
bakkeo
Thank you, and sorry to bother you, cwaig. Recently, I started to use IRK 0.11 and found it very useful. Thank you again for your nice software.
Hi, smammon. The way I use IR keyboards and SL-6000 is shown here:
http://www.geocities.jp/bakkeo2004/index.html
By using a spacer, e.g. Japanese Xylish gum, and pasting a 2 mm thick plastic plate on backside of SL-6000, keyboard holds zaurus stably, providing the table is not slippery.
DrWowe
I can verify that the 6000 works fine with the pocketop keyboard. I used it in landscape mode and it balances on the stand with no problem.

I have one (minor) bug report: If you don't change the Zaurus type from 5500 to 5600/C series, you get a cryptic message about not being able to open the IR serial port. It's even more cryptic because the dialog message doesn't wrap properly and flows right off the screen so you can't read it. The 6000 could also be added to that menu item since it's verified to work.

Another minor feature addition that would be nice is the ability to specify custom serial port. Could be useful to the handheld.org guys.
smammon
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Hi, smammon. The way I use IR keyboards and SL-6000 is shown here: http://www.geocities.jp/bakkeo2004/index.html


Aha! Thank you for posting the pics! Makes complete sense now.

As an aside; Are there any other depedancies to get IRK installed on the 6k? Tried last night just to have it installed and ready when I choose a keyboard and the package manager doesn't recognize it.
bakkeo
Sorry, the file I sent to cwaig must be broken. I uploaded a new one at that URL. After download, please remove ".bin". Filename's "-j" stands for Japanese-version because I made some key macro settings for Kanji input method. If this made problem, plese remove the macro.
smammon
That got it! Nice little app. Thanks to both of you.
Stigger
Could someone please compile this for OZ 3.3.6 I've tried and cannot get it to compile
smammon
writing this on my 6k with my brand new ThinkOutside wireless keyboard. Thank you cwag and Bakkeo!!!
bakkeo
Hi,
I find these news today.


http://www.thinkoutside.com/news/index.html
May 17th, 2004
Read the press release for the new Stowaway Bluetooth Keyboard from Silicon Valley's own Mercury News.

http://www.bluez.org/news.html
09.05.2004Release of bluez-libs-2.7 and bluez-utils-2.7
The BlueZ deamons for PAN and LAN access using PPP are now part of the BlueZ utilities and so the separate BlueZ PAN package has been deprecated. It also includes the CUPS backend for printing over RFCOMM and HCRP, but the most important innovation is the official support for the HID profile.



If I couled get Think outside's foldable Bluetooth keyboard in next month and compile the BlueZ, the BT keybord will work with my zaurus?
bakkeo
Hi, I have just added new keyboard support to IRK.
The keyboards are MicroInnovations TKB780U and Belkin F8U1500.

http://www.mic-innovations.com/pda_keyboards.htm
http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage...oduct_Id=144042
(this looks like T806 keyboard, but I'm not sure)
SnapNType T806 IR Keyboard for Sony Ericsson P900 / P800
http://www.mobilelinktech.com/shop/snaptyp...keyboard_nr.php

Both of them have a row of keys for the numbers that is missing in pocketop.
Is there anybody has one of those keyboards and will verify this modified version of IRK?
http://www.geocities.jp/bakkeo2004/irk-zau....1a_arm.ipk.bin
This based on IRK version 0.11. I have tested this only on my Japanese Zaurus SL-C750.

The keyboards seem working with my zaurus, but there are some problems.
Some of the key-combinations for OK and cancel printed on key-top may not work. Use Cmd+Enter for OK and Cmd+tab for cancel.
For TKB780U, one may have to cut or drill a hole into the keyboard, because the layout of the cover of Ir-LED is not good and the range of beam is so small.
For F8U1500, macro key setting couldn't be made at IRK Settings-form, so one have to directory edit the IRK.conf for using macro key.

This is strictly unofficial, so do not ask anything to Cwaig.
008
I borrowed a F8U1500, and its buggy. To get a key in, you have to hold 'A', hold the key, let go 'A', then let go the key... so close! :-)
008
bakkeo, do you think you can release the source for your package? I would like to fiddle with it to see if I can get it working with my Belkin F8U1500
el_borak
QUOTE(bakkeo @ Jun 10 2004, 07:21 AM)
Hi, I have just added new keyboard support to IRK.

Takeo,

Your version 11.1a download doesn't seem to be working. I don't know if this is an error or whether you pulled it due to a problem.

Any idea when it will be up again?

Thanks.

Dave
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