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gene
I use the standard music player on my C860 but the sound just isnt up to snuff. Although the quality is crisp and clear there is almost no bass. I feel like the treble is at full and the bass is at null. Is there anything i can do about this?
mk500
Are you talking about with headphones, or without? If you mean the built in speaker, it's a peizo buzzer that isn't good for much more than high pitched sounds (beeps). You can play music through it, but it's pretty horrible.

I find the sound with headphones is very good quality.
Mickeyl
I second that. Sound over headphones is great provided you have a quality headphone. And this statement comes from a musician ;-)
gene
i am talking about the sound quality through the headphones of course. Like i said the sound quality is very good but there is no bass. I like progressive house and i am using excellent deep ear canal sony headphones. With my rio mp3 cd player they sound amazing. So the question is/ is there a way to increase the bass.
Pyrates
Hmm, I don't know many details, but I have the follwing: An SL5500 with OZ 3.3.6pre-1, which is compiled with gcc 3.*, which in turn means that applications compiled with gcc 2.9* have to use the compat libraries. I think this only works for executables, but not for libraries (I tried, but I wouldn't make sense to me anyway). Thing is, when I use xmms to listen to music, it has to use the compat libs. My opie-player-2 is compiled with gcc-3.*, so it doesn't have to. Now the point: xmms sound soooo lousy, right out of a can. Opie-player-2 sounds MUCH better (yes, I do have quality headphones from Koss). I think the reason lies somewhere in that compiler-stuff I explained above, because some libraries are needed to play mp3's. Maybe you have the same kind of problem? Maybe you want to try another media player...

cheers
Philipp
gene
Guys thanks for all your replies so far/ but again sound is very crisp but the low end sucks. No bass. I need the bass.
jscriv
I would imagine that your RIO MP3 CD player is boosting the lower frequencie if it's the same MP3 track.

What we need is a 'graphic equaliser' function on the Zaurus audio playback apps.
kbranch
I've also noticed the lack of bass from the Zaurus. I've used the same headphones with my C700 and my amp, and the Zaurus has far less bass. The amp has the bass and treble controls set to neutral and the equalizer on Winamp is off. Even a lowly original Tungsten|T has a basic EQ, so it seems like it would be possible on a Z.
gene
Yes. That is my point exactly. It is kind of depressing as I was hoping to eliminate the Rio MP3 player from my commute and running around the city, it is big and clunky, I thought the Zaurus would do a good job. It has thus far failed me, and their is no solution is site. Funny, when i tried the Cacko rom, XMMS wouldnt play the sound at all. Hmph, oh well. Anyone have any suggestions for how to port a mixer to boost the bass, is their a console mixer that someone can suggest?
BlackCardinal
I would think that any mixer software is going to work only if the sound hardware in the Z supports it. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that mixing is typically done by the hardware. While it is technically possible to alter sound data in software to shape the sound, I'd expect it would be difficult to do in real-time. What type of sound hardware is in the Z?
gene
BlackCardinal,

Actually, personally I was under the impression that mixing is done at the software level, especially doing things such as wave-forming in order to achieve a different acoustic effect, for example in order to multiply the low-end. But I don't know for sure so I may be talking out of my ass.
aig
Does anyone know if there is fix to make XMMS play files on OZ 3.3.6 without sounding like you are in a tin can? I'm using the compat libs. Based on what was said earlier in the post, is this something caused by the compat libs? Thanks.

~AIG
lardman
QUOTE
Hmm, I don't know many details, but I have the follwing: An SL5500 with OZ 3.3.6pre-1, which is compiled with gcc 3.*, which in turn means that applications compiled with gcc 2.9* have to use the compat libraries. I think this only works for executables, but not for libraries (I tried, but I wouldn't make sense to me anyway). Thing is, when I use xmms to listen to music, it has to use the compat libs. My opie-player-2 is compiled with gcc-3.*, so it doesn't have to. Now the point: xmms sound soooo lousy, right out of a can. Opie-player-2 sounds MUCH better (yes, I do have quality headphones from Koss). I think the reason lies somewhere in that compiler-stuff I explained above, because some libraries are needed to play mp3's. Maybe you have the same kind of problem? Maybe you want to try another media player...


Intersting idea, but I think xmms is just acting as a front end to mplayer. Mplayer is generally just linked to C libs (like libc) so it doesn't require the use of the compat libs (even though it was probably compiled with GCC 2.95.x), so I think your theory may be out the window. However it might be worth trying to use mplayer on it's own and compare the difference with xmms.

That said, you may be right and I might be talking rubbish - perhaps the data is piped though xmms and degraded there ??. The other thing to look at is the version of mplayer (and the libs) you are using. To tell the truth I felt that mplayer (as I can't get xmms running) sounded marginally better than opie-mplayer2, but this was a non-scientific test and also just a gut feeling. I'll do some more listening over the rest of the weekend and decide.


Si
freshroastedpeanut
A bump and another datapoint...

Running XMMS under a n Xqt/debian environment has the same qualities- good range, nice treble, low bass. And a killer equalizer. That kills the application. Drat.

Anyone?

Cheers, JJ
ev1l
QUOTE(BlackCardinal @ Mar 31 2004, 08:59 PM)
I would think that any mixer software is going to work only if the sound hardware in the Z supports it. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that mixing is typically done by the hardware.

No. On PC and machines with decent sound hardware, you can mix channels in hardware, buth the mp3 decoding is only done on hardware on specialized devices (players).
xatax
I equalize my music specially fo the Zaurus. Just install a lame_out plugin in Winamp, choose destination folder in your SD of CF flash, set you EQ and DSPs and do something else while it decodes/encodes. smile.gif Pretty simple and great results. In addition I use Mp3 Gain to normalize my files.
rickh
QUOTE(xatax @ Mar 23 2005, 06:27 PM)
I equalize my music specially fo the Zaurus. Just install a lame_out plugin in Winamp, choose destination folder in your SD of CF flash, set you EQ and DSPs and do something else while it decodes/encodes. smile.gif Pretty simple and great results. In addition I use Mp3 Gain to normalize my files.
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Sorry, but that's just silly. That's nice that you encode specifically for your Zaurus, but a lot of us have libraries that are already encoded. Personally, I don't have the bass problem described in this thread (my headphones produce a good amount of bass), but that doesn't mean that others don't. Ideally, the Music player would have a built in equalizer.

Obviously this is just my opinion, but you shouldn't have to re-encode your media files just to successfully play them from one device to another. You should just encode them once, then be able to play them wherever.

R.
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xatax
Hey, I know that it's not ideal. I would be really great to encode them once and then forget about it, but hey, this a solution, works for me and maybe for others. It's just a suggestion and the process is simple and fast. As you said, the musicplayer doesn't have an equalizer so... I don't see a more "intelligent" answer to "My-dream-sounding-Zaurus" issue. Maybe next time you give your opinion you could also give a solution to the problem too... The matter of "you should" or "you shouldn't" is up to him.
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