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Ethereal
Can someone post the exact dimensions of the SL-6000 screen? I ask b/c nowhere do I see screen protectors offered for the 6K, but I do see them offered for the Toshiba e805, whose four-inch VGA screen is 82.3 mm x 61.7 mm.
Ethereal
Aww, c'mon...nobody owns both an SL-6000 and a ruler?
offroadgeek
I could be wrong, but I thought the 6000 has the same 4" screen as the toshiba you mentioned. Then again, I don't have one so I can't measure it to be certain.
chapman
With my meter stick measurements, the numbers for the Toshiba screen are accurate for the SL-6000, too...
Ethereal
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With my meter stick measurements, the numbers for the Toshiba screen are accurate for the SL-6000, too...


Thanks--one step closer to taking the SL-6000 plunge!
DrWowe
I just decided to order the 6000L from Amazon. I'd like to have a screen protector ready to go when it arrives next week. Recommendations?
Ethereal
Word on the street (and in the other thread in the HW forum) is that the screen is the same size/shape as the Toshiba e805. (I don't know of any SP specifically for the 6K.)
supermagic
The 6000 does come with one screen protector, so you'll have a little breathing (scratching) time..
DrWowe
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The 6000 does come with one screen protector, so you'll have a little breathing (scratching) time..


Good to know! Any idea what kind it is and where to order more?
mshaver
My SL-6000L did not come with any screen protector. I feel deprived. sad.gif
DrWowe
Thanks for the responses. I decided to place an order for some BoxWave ClearTouch protectors for the e805. They got great reviews from several websites. I guess I'll find out if they really fit.
duffman
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My SL-6000L did not come with any screen protector.   I feel deprived.    :(


Neither did mine sad.gif
supermagic
Mine (ordered from Amazon) came with one screen protector. This is a flip style hard clear plastic "lid" that attaches to an indentical clear hard plastic frame that slips over the top of the 6000. There are tracks in the side of the 6000 for the frame to slide into when attaching it.

Also what might be interesting, the box the 6000 came in (from amazon) is very clearly not a retail/store shelf type box. It's plain brown cardboard, with plue printing of purely informational identifying text. No pictures or any flashyness. Like an OEM type box rather than retail.

Those of you who didn't get the screen protector, what did your 6k come in? I'm wondering if there are two separate packaging/distribution chennels the 6000 may be selling through.
supermagic
It's also possible that what I call a screen protector isn't the same thing *you* call a screen protector.
DrWowe
I think we're talking about different things. The "standard" meaning of screen protector is a thin transparent sheet that sticks directly to the PDA screen, and protects it from dust and scratches.
Ethereal
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I decided to place an order for some BoxWave ClearTouch protectors for the e805.  I guess I'll find out if they really fit.


Keep us posted. We 6K stalkers need all the intel we can cull while waiting for the 6KW...
zman
WARNING: Do NOT get the Belkin screen protectors now carried by many vendors. I tried the one for the Tosh e805. It fit exactly BUT you'd do almost as well, visibility-wise, putting a piece of duct tape on your 6000. I've never seen a "clear" protector so unreadable. It is similar to the ones by Fellows but much thicker. I'd like to meet the QC guy that approved the line. 'Nough said. :shock:
DrWowe
It's a very good fit, except that it's 1-2mm too long. I think it will be easy to fix with scissors when I get home.
mjalkut
I like NuShield. They don't have sticky stuff. And n bubbles. They just slip in and work.
mroland
I sent the SL-6000's screen measurements to PDAScreenProtectors.com and they sent me two sample G2 screen protectors to test. So G2 screen protectors for the SL-6000 may be available soon.

Here are the screen measurements I sent:

- Width of opening of screen area (edge to edge): 62.25mm
- Height of opening of screen area (edge to edge): 82.25mm
- Amount of tuck-under* of top edge: 2mm
- Amount of tuck-under* of left edge: 1.5mm
- Amount of tuck-under* of right edge: 1.5mm to 2mm (Top to Bottom)
- Amount of tuck-under* of bottom edge: 2.5mm to 3mm (Left to Right)

The samples I got fit pretty well. Has anyone measured their SL-6000's screen?
I'd like to verify the measurements I got.

Maybe we could add some screen measurements to the Zaurus faq to help Zaurus owners who are trying to find screen protectors.
mjalkut
I sent Nushield 82 x 61 and they sent me a size that seems to work swell.
Ethereal
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I like NuShield.


In this instance, I don't. Granted, it's not billed as being for the 6K, but it is billed as being for the Tosh e800. Unlike the G2, the NuShields have a slight narrowing at top and bottom, with a wider area in the center. The center area fits, but there are tiny, sliver-sized gaps along the lateral edges at the top and bottom--very bad for a non-adhesive SP that will trap dust underneath and sandpaper your screen! :x
mjalkut
The one NuShield sent me is the NU011M. And it seems to fit ok as long as it is centered. When pushed clear over to one side, there is a slight slit at the very top.

Now I see that they actually list the sl6k and give NU011M as the appropriate model.
When I click through it lists Zaurus as the only pda using this model.
Ethereal
Doh! Just what I get for trying to be prepared--I bought my NuShield a couple of weeks ago, before I ordered the 6K. OTOH, it sounds like even the model-specific shield doesn't really fit, either. Do all NuShields have the tapered top and bottom? The G2 I have on my 5600 is squre (well...rectangualar), and although it was a pain in the butt to install, there are no gaps...
websphere
I used the Boxwave screen/p for the Toshiba Genio 550. The Genio also has a 4" screen, but I had to trim 1mm from each side.

It is not perfectly crystal clear. Stops glare; I can turn off the backlight and read the screen in direct sunlight.

Like all s/p, increases the amount of pressure required to activate the digitizer.

I'd rate it 4.5 out of 5.
Ethereal
Just got a G2 spec'd for the Toshiba e800; seems to fit beautifully...
AsLan^
Ive never used screen protector's on my previous Palm handhelds, are they worth it ? Do they leave any kind of residue ? I dont really use the handwriting recognition too much, I prefer the keyboard so my screen taps are somewhat minimal, am I missing something ?

comments... thanks smile.gif
Ethereal
Adhesive ones could leave residue, but I've never experienced it. The "tuck-under" kind (G2, NuShield) couldn't possibly leave residue.

I'd say they're mandatory if you use HWR and want more than six months from new-in-box to wastebasket. If not, it depends on how paranoid you are, but I prefer to have a tough, replaceable layer between the most vulnerable part of my mobile device and the outside world.
mjalkut
NuShield now has sl6000 listed under sharp zaurus with a link to their offering (#NU011M).
smammon
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NuShield now has sl6000 listed under sharp zaurus with a link to their offering (#NU011M).


$12.00 for a piece of film that slips under the edge? Try my free version of the same thing... (bottom link)

http://www.zaurususergroup.com/modules.php...wdownload&cid=5

been using one for more than a month and you get 9 per sheet! Guess I'm just cheap...
mjalkut
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$12.00 for a piece of film that slips under the edge?  Try my free version of the same thing... (bottom link)

http://www.zaurususergroup.com/modules.php...wdownload&cid=5

been using one for more than a month and you get 9 per sheet!  Guess I'm just cheap...


I've been meaning to try this since your original post. Since I first read it, I've wondered: are there different kinds of transparency available? In particular I'd like to find a non-shiny matte transparency that doesn't reflect as much glare as the nushields.
smammon
We had a box of the 3m brand transparencys - They aren't really matte but work quite well even in direct sunlight (I wrote a report for my boss last weekend sitting in a campground table).

They do scratch pretty easily but with the excellent backlight it hasn't bothered me much.
mjalkut
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We had a box of the 3m brand transparencys - They aren't really matte but work quite well even in direct sunlight (I wrote a report for my boss last weekend sitting in a campground table).

They do scratch pretty easily but with the excellent backlight it hasn't bothered me much.


Thanks, I will give them a try.
lek
Maybe this is a little late, but I just bought a thin plastic 8.5 x 11 envlope, which you would use in a binder for .69 cents and cut out a bit that fit my z6kl's screen.
It works very well.
My z6kl came with a plastic flip screen. I bought it through Amazon.com.

Lek
cvmiller
I'll be the guy swimming against the current.

I _don't_ use a screen protector (other than the flip screen). I guess it depends on what one does for data entry. Since I use a Pocketop IR keyboard for most of my data entry, I don't scratch around on the screen much. And I really like the "clear" view without a screen protector. I have had my Zaurus since April, and not a scratch yet (knock wood).

Craig...
thecurseofthebambino
Mark me down as swimming against the current as well. I've had a Palm III since '98 and have never used a screen protector on it. Any scratches on my screen are VERY minor, and it looks pretty darn good for something that has been in daily use for almost 5 years now.
smammon
Go look in the downloads area, under "other cool stuff". A while back I created and uploaded a template that you can just print on overhead transparency film and cut out. I've been using one for months now.
neuroshock
I went do the download area and downloaded the pdf as you recommended but regardless how I setup the print settings on my HP 1220 LJ it printed about 2mm all the way around smaller than the viewable area was on the screen. It wasn't a total loss however as it inspired me to keep trying my own hand and found a size myself that did work for me. (I have a terminal case of scissors hand cramp though.) The fault was probably was in my wifes Win2k printer setup as it acts as our home networks print server.

At any rate the end product does NOT float around the screen and has zero dust particles trapped underneath. It is perfectly responsive to the stylus...seems to actually make tapping easier than before. If anyone is interested I used a transparency sheet of Office Depot Black and White copier transparancies. It was the best brand I could find that didn't have noticeable yellow or grey tinting or subtle streaks in the manufacturing finish. It also reduces glare a LOT, not sure if its an anti-glare component or if I was just lucky. Either way I'm breathing a LOT easier knowing my screen is safe.

* A special thanks to Donna, my sister who aided me in this two hour long struggle - thanks sweets! *

-NeuroShock
gramps
I took a piece of transmarent plasic like for a report cover cut out a rectangle 85cmx61cm could be mm not real good with metrics. It then will slip up under the case at the top and bottom and holds it in place. The 3M film might be better but I just used what I had.

Also tried on of the Concept Kitchens protectors that I had left over from my Palm III but I didn't like what it did to the screen, made it a little blury looking.
cwaig
I didn't use a protector on my 5500, and two years later the screen's scratched to shit.

So, inspired by this thread I've just tried the overhead acetate sheet approach on my old'n'scratchy SL5500, and it works beautifully (10 minutes of trimming later). Used a box of Sasco overhead projector acetate's that I had lying around in my office (got 'em from a previous job, and they've been sat in a drawer in my home office for the past 10 years!). Works fabulously - not only masks scratching, but the stylus tracking actually works better with it fitted.

Doing the acetate will be my first move when my SL6000 turns up next week smile.gif
malik
hello,

i know that this device has a 4" display diagonal,
so i can compute the height and width via pythagoras,
but in general there will be some kind of additional margins.
can anyone post exact dimensions for a display protector.

thank u
byzantium
Remember math class ?

4*4 = (x*x) + (y*y)

if the screen is 640x480 and you assign x to 640, then y = 480/640*x = 0.75x

16 = x^2 + 0.5625x^2
16 = 1.5625 * x^2

x^2 = 10.24
x= 3.2 inches or 8.13 cm
y= 2.4 inches or 6.10 cm

smile.gif
byzantium
Hi, this has been covered previously in threads in the 6000 hardware forum on screen size, and also screen protectors.
malik
hello,

@byzantium: you are surely right with your computations, but
but displayed dimensions in general doesn't mean dimensions
of a corresponing screen protector, look for instance at the 5500
or 5600 device. there are some black margins, which have to be
considered, if you want them also to be protected. maybe i will
add some mm's to each side and order a screen protector with
the new measures.

as ethereal said: doesn't anyone use screen protectors?

greetings, malik
Tehas
Check out this thread

and this one.
byzantium
@tehas: you're a star! -- I'll merge the other threads into this one later today
byz
smooth
QUOTE(neuroshock @ Oct 21 2004, 07:28 AM)
I went do the download area and downloaded the pdf as you recommended but regardless how I setup the print settings on my HP 1220 LJ it printed about 2mm all the way around smaller than the viewable area was on the screen. It wasn't a total loss however as it inspired me to keep trying my own hand and found a size myself that did work for me. (I have a terminal case of scissors hand cramp though.) The fault was probably was in my wifes Win2k printer setup as it acts as our home networks print server.

At any rate the end product does NOT float around the screen and has zero dust particles trapped underneath. It is perfectly responsive to the stylus...seems to actually make tapping easier than before. If anyone is interested I used a transparency sheet of Office Depot Black and White copier transparancies. It was the best brand I could find that didn't have noticeable yellow or grey tinting or subtle streaks in the manufacturing finish. It also reduces glare a LOT, not sure if its an anti-glare component or if I was just lucky. Either way I'm breathing a LOT easier knowing my screen is safe.

* A special thanks to Donna, my sister who aided me in this two hour long struggle - thanks sweets! *

-NeuroShock

I just used my school's laser printer and ended up with the same results.

oh well. I'll live with a line for now. If you have a copy of your solution, that would be much appreciated. Also, if someone does come up with a new template, it would be nice to have the lines be where the cuts are supposed to be made. Either that, or two lines (like an outer dotted line for the cuts).
smooth
QUOTE(Ethereal @ May 21 2004, 04:26 AM)
QUOTE
I like NuShield.


In this instance, I don't. Granted, it's not billed as being for the 6K, but it is billed as being for the Tosh e800. Unlike the G2, the NuShields have a slight narrowing at top and bottom, with a wider area in the center. The center area fits, but there are tiny, sliver-sized gaps along the lateral edges at the top and bottom--very bad for a non-adhesive SP that will trap dust underneath and sandpaper your screen! :x

So is the G2 for the tosh e800 the one to get?
How has the quality and feel been since you've been using it for months.

G2 still doesn't have 6K listed.
bgsfh
I ordered one of the JAVOScreen screen protectors from JAVOedge when I got my Javobud earphones. I ordered the protector for the Toshiba e550G. I works great after trimming about 1 mm from a short side. I hope this helps someone.
freshroastedpeanut
I took up the earlier advice and chopped up a clear overhead foil for the screen- making it 1-2mm larger than the screen real-estate lets it slip under the case nicely. I also chopped off a corner at 45 degrees so I could later get at the sucker easily, so far it is working great.

Not having had my fill of basic scissors usage for the day, I also chopped up a cover for the clear screen flip-cover and taped it on- so far I had left on the clear adhesive-backed protector that came on it, but it wasn't really that clear and was starting to peel...

Cheers, JJ
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