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hans
My version of Qtopia doesn't have the infamous "shutdown app" -- I only have the option to Reboot. So, if I want to go into console mode, I can't choose "Terminate Qtopia" (and then press"/" during the countdown). I tried to press "/" during reboot, but nothing happens. Is there another way to get into console mode? Please help!
cmisip
You have to press / when you see the countdwn. "Wait 5..4..3..2.." Then press a and then login.
hans
When I click on "reboot"in the Qtopia menu, I don't see any countdown -- I only get a query about whether I want to shutdown all applications; if I click OK, then everything goes blank for a couple of seconds, and then the Sharp startup screen (a white screen with red "Sharp", and some Japanese characters), and then back into Qtopia.

Thanks for your help.

(I have Qtopia for OpenPDA, Version 1.5.4 on a Zaurus C750.)
tonyb
The statement below is correct, but not precise:
"You have to press / when you see the countdwn. "Wait 5..4..3..2.." Then press a and then login."

The actual procedure is:

1. Click on the Qtopia screen lower-left-hand screen icon to pull-up the menu.
2. Select 'Settings'.
3. Select 'Shutdown' from the new pull-down.4. Click on the 'Terminate Qtopia' button.
5. Wait for text console and while the "Wait 5 4 3 2 1" countdown is in-progress
press the '/' key
6. a list of available runtime levels (3-5) will be displayed.
7. Select level 3. by pressing the 'a' key for text mode login.
8. Enter user and password at the login prompt.

Done.
Stubear
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The statement below is correct, but not precise:
      "You have to press / when you see the countdwn. "Wait 5..4..3..2.." Then press a and then login."

The actual procedure is:

1. Click on the Qtopia screen  lower-left-hand screen icon to pull-up the menu. 
2. Select 'Settings'.
3. Select 'Shutdown' from the new pull-down.4. Click on the 'Terminate Qtopia' button.
5. Wait for text console and while the "Wait  5 4 3 2 1" countdown is in-progress
    press the '/' key
6. a list of available runtime levels (3-5) will be displayed.
7. Select level 3. by pressing the 'a' key for text mode login.
8. Enter user and password at the login prompt.

Done.


NOT when you have a Cxx0 model - sharp removed the countdown.

Without editiing the read-only filesystem there is no easy way to get it back.

Stu
maslovsky
Cacko ROMs have that option enabled.
hans
Stubear's solution worked for me. (I have the original Sharp ROM on the C750, and so no countdown.) Thanks!!
ShiroiKuma
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NOT when you have a Cxx0 model - sharp removed the countdown.

Without editiing the read-only filesystem there is no easy way to get it back.

Sharp indeed removed the countdown, also removed the icon in the Settings menu. So I made a link to the shutdown command on the Settings menu, however when I choose terminate Qtopia there is no countdown, only a slide bar going to 100%. I tried hitting / before it turns off and resets, but nothing, and it only restarts Qtopia.

So which files do you have to edit the read-only permissions to get the ability to terminate Qtopia back?
bluedevils
hans,

did you search the file system for the "infamous" shutdown app? The tkcrom for the clamshells were also missing from the gui, but it was in the filesystem. I used the tab setting app to add it back in.
ShiroiKuma
Yeah, I had to do the same thing, add it...

However then, when you select terminate Qtopia, there is no countdown and pressing / while it's powering off, doesn't help...

Later.
TimW
It might be worth trying this from the command line:

qcop QPE/System "quit()"

or

qcop QPE/System "shutdown()"

or

qcop QPE/System "restart()"

to exit qtopia (and go to a console), shutdown everything (like a soft reset) or to restart the qtopia environment respectively.
ShiroiKuma
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qcop QPE/System "quit()"

Doesn't work.

When I type it, I get the standard
CODE
Display size 640x480
response and then it just sits there, i.e. no more output on the display, the display doesn't react to the stylus, you have to reset.

I let it sit for ten minutes just to be sure, but it doesn't do anything...
TimW
Getting desparate now...try

killall qpe

which does the obvious.

BTW the qcop calls are documented right here.

The zaurus uses 1.5 but the qcop messages we're discussing are identical and work on my 5000 so I don't know why that didn't work.

BTW, don't wait more than a few seconds. If its going to work the effect is fairly fast.
ShiroiKuma
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killall qpe

Yeah, does the obvious... That works, but it only does a quick restart of Qtopia, i.e. not a reboot, but it terminates everything, pops you in to the Zaurus screen and then Qtopia starts again....

Aggghhhh...

Perhaps something has to be edited, read-write prefs like Stubear said above, unfortunately didn't say what...
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