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piggity
Hey,

Someone started a similar thread, but what I am really trying to get at is of all the software out there, what is and isn't working for the SL-6000. I'll start this out.

Works
- tkcExplorerC7xx
- kismit (with instructions from: http://www.zaurususergroup.com/modules.php...the%20SL-6000L)
- BlueZ drivers (works for Ambicom card, but not the Socket revG card)
- tkcEditorC7xx

Doesn't Work (at least for me)
kino2 (install, but will not play video)
qkonsole 9.3 (works, but not in vga mode)
tkcVideo
palugeek
I think this is a good idea. I would like to know what works and what doesn't without having to waste the time experimenting. My experience is:

Works
- qkconsole ( with the limitations noted )
- JustReader ( but the number of formats is very limited, won't rotate )

Doesn't work
- kismet ( enough others have had success I must have screwed it up, I'll try again )
- kino2 ( installed but that's about it )
- opie-reader ( installed; worked for a while; then hung; had to reset to uninstall )
- qpdf2 ( installed; ran; but test leaves trask all over the screen )


I still have a Socket bluetooth card I can't use; anyone have any luck with that yet?
DrWowe
Qpdf2 is working fine for me. The exact package I installed was qpdf2_no-render-2.2.1-20040217_arm.ipk. There are several other versions available for download which I didn't try. I even got it to work in 640x480 mode by editing the desktop icon shortcut.
cradlinski
What about kpacman? biggrin.gif
DrWowe
kpacman works too. smile.gif
palugeek
The qpdf2 I loaded was qpdf2_2.00-20030725_arm.ipk. I will try the other one.

Can you explain what you changed on the desktop icon to get 640x480 mode?

Thanks
DrWowe
I just copied the Display line from the built-in apps and pasted it into the Qpdf file. All the desktop icons are in /home/QtPalmtop/apps/Applications. The line looks like this:
Display=640x480,144dpi,480x640,144dpi

edit: There's an easier way to do this. If you tap and hold the icon, a screen comes up where you can disable the magnification.
lwong
Kismet works using the guide.

DrZ Video player works (both 320x2490 and VGA)

FW
glondy
These work for me:

Construct
NeoCal
TimeSleuth
FreeNoteQt
BilliardZ
VideoPoker
Kpacman
Shufflewords
SolitaireJM
ZCheckers
ZRally
ZStyle
zman
:? Hey,

Has anyone gotten nethack to work on their 6K? I downloaded and installed it and the sound file. The program opens and presents the first screen. When I hit play it just dies (disappears back to launcher screen). Any hints?

TIA
clivel
SafeDee version 2.0.2 works on the 6000 in both portrait and landscape modes.
If you are running an earlier version of SafeDee, V2.02 is, as always, a free upgrade.
Regards,
Clive
guylhem
QUOTE
DrZ Video player works (both 320x240 and VGA)

FW


Which drz version? 5500 or 700 ? Just to purchase the correct one :-)
jerbell
Qconsole works fine in 640x480 mode (fonts are tiny of course) if you uncheck "run magnified".
It doesnt handle a suspend very well if you su to root, but that problem appears on the 5600 as well.
redbones
to get nethack to work

chown zaurus -R /home/QtPalmtop/games/lib/nethackdir/nethackdir

you also need to edit the nethack.cnf and change

QT_FONTSIZE=tiny
QT_TILEWIDTH=8
QT_TILEHEIGHT=11


to

QT_FONTSIZE=large
QT_TILEWIDTH=32
QT_TILEHEIGHT=32


so its not so small
dstorey
QUOTE
Qpdf2 is working fine for me.   The exact package I installed was qpdf2_no-render-2.2.1-20040217_arm.ipk.  There are several other versions available for download which I didn't try.  I even got it to work in 640x480 mode by editing the desktop icon shortcut.


I am now half way there - the drivers work but the connection applet only offers the Wireless and although I can force the issue by connecting and then disconnecting the wireless, the scripts still fail (and I have checked them against my 5500). Any ideas on how to debug these scripts?
PDAgal
Works for me:
Dr Z Video Player VGA
Petite Peinture
Kismet
Bluez
Nano
Mighty Charms
tkcRace
Snails
tkcGallery
ZEditor
Zlines
SafeDee
qpdf2

Didn't work:
tkcVideo

Much better compatability than I expected. Other than tkcVideo, all my C7xx software works, and so do SL5xxx that are C7xx friendly.
jdmoorman
Iwong & others

I have been flailing about trying to get kismet to work, yet to no avail.
Iwong referenced a guide - where can it be found?

The application will run from both the console and the gui, but never finds anything, not even my own network at home.

Could it be the source setting in the kismet.conf file?
Ethereal
QUOTE
Iwong referenced a guide - where can it be found?


HERE
jdmoorman
Thanks!
Working great, now.
AsLan^
I'm not sure if everyone else takes these for granted but I got...

The Interstellar Flames Demo
javachess
open-ssh
tcpdump
and vectoroids

to work

nmap sort-of works, Im not sure, it says there is an error when installing, I can execute the binary and that works but it isnt finding open ports that I think are there... oic it says cannot find nmap-services, hmmm.
AsLan^
Thanks for the instructions for kismet...

... i do have one question though, its working from the terminal but how do I set kismet-qt to run as root ? it would be nice if that worked too.

Oh.. one other thing, is anyone else having problems with the adduser command ?
PDAgal
Tap and hold the Kismet icon to see a dialog come up. One of the checkboxes should be run as root.
duffman
If you tap and hold on the kismet icon you get a screen where you can set it to run as root.
AsLan^
Thanks, you guys rock.
biggrin.gif
dsavard
I have just tried to install kismet without success. The link to the libcap-0.7.2 library is not working and the library 8.1 is not working with this version of Kismet. Anyone is having the updated stuff somewhere and can make it available?
flagar
I have perfectly working on my SL-6000L:
QPDF2
FreeNote
KO/PI

About the Socket Bluetooth card rev.G:
I finally got it working following some instructions found on this forum:
- simply install the latest Bluez package + the CSR extra package
- either delete or move away the file /etc/pcmcia/bm3.conf and maybe also the directory /etc/pcmcia/bm3
- restart pcmcia and restart bluetooth
- Socket rev G is now working (I tested dialup connection through a Sony Ericsson Z600 mobile phone, hcitool scan, sdptool browse, everything OK!)
But I would like to install the openobex command-line utilities such as irobex_palm3 to beam files... anyone knows where I could get them?
cosinux
QUOTE(dsavard @ Oct 9 2004, 04:51 AM)
The link to the libcap-0.7.2 library is not working and the library 8.1 is not working with this version of Kismet. Anyone is having the updated stuff somewhere and can make it available?

Use libpcap from www.zaurususergroup.org/feed/ smile.gif
BarryW
Is there a shockwave player anywhere??
GoLinux
This is what I have been able to get to work:

Qpdf2 (qpdf2_no-render-2.2.1-20040217_arm.ipk)
Opie-Reader

Both work in VGA mode, and quite well, although Qpdf2 can be a little slow in rendering documents with complex graphics.

Not much, (yet) but, hey, it is only 24 hours I have owned my SL-6000L....

Now, on to a serious challenge: find a video player that can stream RealPlayer and Windows Media Player files......... biggrin.gif
neuroshock
Great thread, I will gladly contribute.

First of all be it known to all that I am Linux stupid. I am probably a below average profficiency user on this forum. I almost did not get a 6000 solely because I feared my sl5500 software would not work and I would be too dumb to get it running. My fears were baseless! With the exception of Prboom, and Stratagus the only thing I did besides install the .ipk of each program was to fiddle with the icon settings. (tap and hold the icon to get to the menu)

Eliminator
Shopper
aliens
amortize
applet manager
brickout
bzip2
clipboard-applet-sharprom
construct
doom demo
drz video c7xx retail
efax
eligo
fdisk
forest-fire expansion for Strategic-Assault retail
froot
glider
hancom presenter viewer
htmlatzaurus
htmleditor
Interstellar-flames retail
irk
jack the unipsychle retail
java-jcrypt pad
java-pocket design
java-tempconv
java-wyvern
javanoid
jeode
jeode demos
jmap
justreader
keyring
Motocross retail
netactive-zaurus
opie- irc
opie-keypebble
opie-kpacman
opie-mediummount
opie-reader
opie screenshot applet
opie-tetrix
petit track
prboom
qflashlayer
qpdf2
qpe-camera
qpe-gaim
qpe-go
qpe-mighty charms retail
qpe-minesweeper
qpe-nethack
qpe-qasteroids
qpe-stash
qpe-terminalvga
qpe-tkcrace 5x00 retail
qpe-rotator 5x00 retail
qpe-wordgame
qpealarmclock
qpegps
qpsword
qswap
qtella
qtgps
rocketelite retail
scummvm
scummvm-qpe
sketches of q
smbmount
snails-demo
stratagus
strategic-assault retail
subapplet zaurus
super foul egg
tkc addressbook c7xx retail
tkc backup c7xx retail
tkc blocks c7xx retail
tkc calendar c7xx retail
tkceditor c7xx retail
tkc explorer c7xx retail
tkc ftp c7xx retail
tkc gallery c7xx retail
tkc jabber -5x00 retail
tkc kaptial retail
tkc lines c7xx retail
tkc loadrunner c7xx retail
tkc lydianstone c7xx retail
tkc mahjong c7xx retail
tkc mail retail
tkc memo retail
tkc painter retail
tkc player c7xx retail
tkc puzzle c7xx retail
tkc radio 5x00 retail
tkc soq c7xx retail
tkc todo retial
tkc trump c7xx retail
tkc vox c7xx retail
tkc zip c7xx retial
vectoroids
warp
warp fleet
WhatsuponZ
zbedic
zeecookbook
zfax
zgps
zaurus java banchmark
zknights
znester
zstyle
zaurus unit converter

Be smart and download programs from feeds particularly for 6000 and/or c7x0 models, you will save yourself a lot of greif. However it should be painfully obvious to you that almost EVERY program works with the 6000 in at least 320 x 240 and some 5500 software will even run at 640 x 480 right out of the can!

I am SO glad I upgraded to the 6000 and have ZERO regrets about not getting a c860. The usb host, second cf slot and extra battery in the sleeve, and the built in wifi are just an incredible combo. I:ve dubbed it my micro-tablet.

Good luck and good hunting!
Hope this helps someone.

NeuroShock
GoLinux
Holy cow Neuroshock!!! I wonder what would you have installed if you were NOT Linux stupid................... How much of that stuff you have installed on a CF or SD and have you had any issue with that?

I kind of doubt everything can fit in the the internal memory.

Nice setup you got, congratulations.
Zar2Cool
QUOTE(neuroshock @ Oct 27 2004, 04:33 AM)
Be smart and download programs from feeds particularly for 6000 and/or c7x0 models, you will save yourself a lot of greif.

Can you please post the links to the feeds you found all this at?

Thanks
-Zar
ken
jeode
jmap
qpe-gaim
qpegps
zfax
zgps

These in particular interest me. I can't find an ipk for jmap for example, just a tar. I have the feeling I'll need jeode to install jmap, but jeode failed.

I tried qpe-gaim, but that failed also. I got as far as everything being displayed, but couldn't get the irc working properly.

The other gps and fax program interest me also. Knowing some 6000 feeds would probably prove useful. Mentioning it helps, as at least I know it's supposed to exist, so I'll start looking harder smile.gif
perseus
I see tkc kapital on the list. I encountered several problems. In the check book register field the bottom of the screen covers some of the comands to enter new transactions. Is there a way to fix this. Also, there does not seem to be a column for the check or transaction number? I bought this software from handango. last week. Is there an upgrade? Or am I doing something wrong?

Thanks for you input.
ken
ok, based on his clues, I've finally got the following working. The key as he said is to find feeds based on the 6000 or the C7x0 series. Most 5500 apps work fine. Many have the zoom button checked, and work fine when you uncheck them.

zoomed apps: TraveLog PRO, FamilyTree, Patience

no zoom required: ZBEDic + various dictionaries (including the wikipedia) (hint - had to install unicode to get the asian character set) , zKnights, Tetrix, Kismet, irssi, mc

sort of working (no gps, so I can't test it): Wellenreiter, qpeGPS

note: most tkc apps will run if you use the C7x0 or if they specify the 6000. They've mentioned that definitely tkcVideo won't work.

The one app I wanted to get working was Kstars, but no such luck. I found an ipk for it, but it's for OZ and the paths are all wrong.
neuroshock
Sorry folks I have busy for a few days since I posted that list of programs. I am very glad someone stepped in to post the feed links. When I am done with this post and some annoyance things like finishing paying this months bills I will check and see if the two feeds that I use are different and if so I will post them as well!

In answer to the first question, yes I installed everything possible to sdcard (1gb) and I have about one third of it filled. Out of the 25 NAND memory we all start with I now have about 15mb still empty. I did some elementary speed test to make sure but I discovered that there is NO appreciable speed difference between the onboard NAND memory and my Lexar 32x sdcard. Therefore it seemed best to load everything onto it that I possibly could. My IBM microdrive is actually faster writing so I keep wads, mpegs, a healthy swap partition etc. on it. This still allows me my 1gb cf lexar card in the expansion sleeve for lazy storage...MP3s and Scummvm game data etc.
By the way if you do not own a sleeve and do not mind a bit larger pda then I encourage everyone to get a sleeve ASAP... you will NOT regret doing it! Do not forget that sharp will no longer be making these and I am sure they will become quite rare very soon.
Going back to what I have installed, I actually got that list from the uninstall list in the add remove programs window as it appears on my 6000.
tkcVideo is the only program I ran into that I WANTED to run and could not. I am experimenting around with tkcKapital and trying to recreate the issue that was pointed out. If I find a workaround I will post it. That might nix Kapital from my list. I hope not. I LIKE that program.
I was not really trying to show off with my huge listing, I was trying to accomplish two things;

First was to demonstrate and settle once and for all that the 6000 did NOT suffer huge insurmountable incompatibilities concerning existing software. Further I was being honest about my knowledge level to show that even a determined newbie could easily do what I have done!
Second was to fill a niche that I had noticed that there was a lack of information concerning retail programs and compatibility as many ppl will not buy unless they KNOW it works. So go out there and buy these programs...There is some VERY good software in that list that is worth every penny invested. Support your Zaurus/Linux community and put your bucks behind your bark!

God Bless All,

NeuroShock
neuroshock
As promised here is the feed info;

Stupkids feed-- http://www.bryandluca.com/feed/
This is a C860 feed I believe but everything I have tried from there works on the 6000.

Here are some links to other software threads on this forum that I have found useful for particular programs and that are chock full of links to How-tos etc;

Kismet - http://www.oesf.org/forums/inde...=software&st=15

Opies Sharp Rom feed-- http://opie.handhelds.org/feed/stable/sharprom/
This is NOT a 6000 particular feed. It does however have many helpful programs/applets that run just fine on the 6000 that are hard to find elsewhere.

Nethack - (this very thread)

vnc-keypebble - http://www.oesf.org/forums/inde...=software&st=30
NOTE; I installed opie-keypebble fromthe above opie feed and it worked with no further action on my part.

Prboom - http://www.oesf.org/forums/inde...=7726&hl=prboom
This is a thread that I culled the info on getting the right packages of SDL and prboom. Works like a charm!

Java - http://www.oesf.org/forums/inde...ic=7919&hl=java
This will help you run java programs under Suns jme java interpreter if you would rather use it than installing jeode. If someone would grab zaurus java benchmark and run it under jeode and then the built in jme I would LOVE to know which is faster.

Last but not least do not forget Zugs very own feed that you should see to your left.

Also do not forget that all of these links may not be 100 percent solely for the 6000. The first link is the only one I know is purely for the c860 and works with the 6000.

As always I hope this info helps!

God Bless,

NeuroShock
aarons
Ken: qpe-gaim works for me. What problems are you having?

Once I figured out the Display parameter for making things run 640x480 I went through and added that line to all my applications. most work fine (yay!) but some don't. Noteably: qpe-alarmclock and powerchord.

powerchord opens as a tiny unmoveable/unresizeable window and the pulldown menus are too big for the window, so they're all bunched together and there isn't enough room for the text. I downloaded the source for this, but I have no idea how to compile stuff for this, so if someone has a howto on that (I'd like to use an x86 debian system for the builds) I'd appreciate it.

qpe-alarmclock opens are a full screen window, but the gui elements are all bunched in the corner, and the fonts are too big. How can I make things use small fonts? Is there some sort of a font browser available?

Of course qpe-alarmclock is useless since the system time on this skews by at least 5 minutes a day. Has anyone found a fix for that?
ken
Neuroshock,

How in the world did you manage to get jmap going? I can't seem to find an ipk for it anywhere, much less even know where it wants the maps!
ken
aarons,

Basically it had problems connecting to the irc. I've since then moved on and gotten irssi working instead. While it would have been nice to have all the other protocols in my Z, I began thinking about the specific things I wouldn't be able to resolve, like logging into x on the undernet.

I may try again later, thanks.
aarons
Yeah. I really want zephyr support in qpe-gaim, but apparently that plugin wasn't compiled. I'll fix it eventually...
ken
ok, found out what jmap needs, which was jeode instead of the built in java machine (the evm vs cvm issue).

After all of that, it turns out that jmap runs a bit slow, although it's a great idea. What I've decided to do is to use the imaging program that's built into the 6000 instead to pull up the jpg. The advantages for me is that it's faster and I can use the stylus to drag around the single image itself, rather than to have to load the various smaller images each time.
dsavard
Some additions:
  • Portabase
  • Tx Image Viewer
  • VisualQ
  • zBattleship
  • zIPSC
  • Cumulus
  • minIDE
xjqian
QUOTE(aarons @ Oct 29 2004, 10:56 AM)
Ken: qpe-gaim works for me.  What problems are you having?

Once I figured out the Display parameter for making things run 640x480 I went through and added that line to all my applications.  most work fine (yay!) but some don't.  Noteably: qpe-alarmclock and powerchord.

I have problem with gaim to.

It logged onto MSN fine for me, but once I touch the screen or make any changes, the program just crashes. If I choose to auto-login, it crashes automatically.

I found the installation steps are more than what's on gaim's installation pagess. I'm a newbie. Does it matters which version of lib-opie and zlib you use? I want to use gaim so baddly. Could you please post a how-to for getting gaim to work on 6000? Thanks a lot.

PS. I tried to uninstall everything (libs) and install again. One question, how does gaim remember my account name? Could you tell me where gaim stores my account information after uninstallation?

Edit: Finally, I got it to work for me. I only use MSN. But it seems to be very unstable. Most of the time if I change the MSN account setting, it just crashes. Well, I can live with that, just not playing around.
gramps
Anybody got any good feeds for the 6K, the ones on the wiki seem to be out dated, alot of them do not work including the one for Sharp.

Allen
GoLinux
Gramps,

try this one:

http://cyberphreak.com/zaurus/feed/

the guy who maintain it owns only the SL-6000L, as far as I know.

You may also want to have a look at his Zaurus page:

http://cyberphreak.com/zaurus/

If it can help, this is the list of all programs I have installed and work on my SL-6000L (not all downloaded from the above feed, by the way):

Backgammon 0.9.5
FreeNote 1.9.2pre
Javachess 1.0
Kino2 0.3 (but with mplayer from version 0.22)
Opie-reader 0.7h
Opie-tetrix 1.5-1
Petittrack 1.2.0 (Satellite Tracking software, I'm an Amateur Radio operator)
Powerchord 0.0.7
Qpdf2 freetype-2.2.1-20040217 (this is the version I found working best)
ResistorUI 1.5.0-0.9 (utility to "translate" resistors' color code)
ZUC 1.1 (conversion utility: ounces to grams, miles to kilometers, etc.)

About half of those programs can run at full 640x480 resolution. The rest works best with "display with magnified screen" checked, which will switch the Z to 320x240.

Enjoy the Z!!! wink.gif
neuroshock
You should find some good software and feeds in this thread:

software thread

Good Luck,
NeuroShock
gramps
Thanks guys that was a big help!
guylhem
externe.net/zaurus/feed/6000 (fixed missing Packages)
BarryW
QUOTE(guylhem @ Dec 5 2004, 07:26 AM)
externe.net/zaurus/feed/6000 (fixed missing Packages)

Would this be externe.net/zaurus/feeds/6000/ ??
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