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ocman
Looks like this is basically another Muvo2 deal except its a newer and larger drive. I would assume this works with the Z?

I'm a little confused as to why they would release the product the same way the Muvo2 was, basically with a removable reusable microdrive that retails by itself for much more. Of course we all know that Creative quickly crippled the drive in the next version of the product, why would Rio make the same "mistake"? Is it likely they will end up crippling the drive in the near future?

Also, does anyone know how the Seagate performs against the Hitachi?
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ocman
Oh, and I guess the new Muvo2 FM also uses the Seagate 5GB, not sure if its been crippled yet, only came out a couple weeks ago...
freizugheit
Someone has successfully extracted and tested the Seagate 5GB CF Microdrive from Rio Carbon on the Z.

http://www.bargainpda.com/discussion/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7028
kahm
I followed the discussion on the Rio Carbon Seagate drives up to the following conclusion: Seagate hasn't released those drives retail yet. When they do release them early next year, the expected price point will be $150.

Hence paying $250 for a Rio Carbon nets you a hefty $100 early adopter fee, and an MP3 player shell that you may be able to rescue with an expensive flash card. (The only ones that anyone were able to get to work were 512mb+ high speed cards...)

OTOH, a $150 5.5 gb CF card will be a *very* nice thing to see, and good incentive to track down one of those SD 802.11b cards for my SLC-860, assuming the driver ever gets released.
freizugheit
If Sandisk's 4GB CF Card is selling at $419, I doubt that Seagate's 5GB CF Microdrive will cost only $150. However, it remains to be seen.
ocman
Maybe $150 wholesale or reseller cost, but I seriously doubt that is the target consumer retail price...
kopsis
QUOTE(freizugheit @ Oct 13 2004, 10:49 PM)
If Sandisk's 4GB CF Card is selling at $419, I doubt that Seagate's 5GB CF Microdrive will cost only $150.

Sandisk's 4GB card is a solid state flash memory based card. It uses cutting edge (expensive) high density memory parts that won't get any cheaper until yields and supplies go up. By contrast the Seagate 5GB (and Hitachi 4GB) "microdrives" are not solid state. They are actual miniature hard drives (magnetic storage) complete with spinning platter and moving read/write head. The minaturization takes a hefty manufacturing investment, but once that's done, they should be able to crank them out with a per unit cost not much worse than a regular hard drive. The $150 price point that Seagate has suggested is aggressive, but not unrealistic.
ev1l
QUOTE(freizugheit @ Oct 13 2004, 10:49 PM)
If Sandisk's 4GB CF Card is selling at $419, I doubt that Seagate's 5GB CF Microdrive will cost only $150. However, it remains to be seen.

Like Kopsis said, the Sandisk 4GB is a solid state card (like SD), while the Seagate is a hard drive, with all that it implies (faster, more zap-hungry, more choc-sensitive).
inman
I bought a pair of Seagate 5gb CF microdrives on eBay for $250/each and they work fine in my 6000s.
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hubcapboy
ouch you guys, ouch.

I use the Rio Carbon Drive with my z6k, but I figured why go through all of the trouble to crack open the player when it can be mounted as usb storage?

This way I'm pretty sure I have become the first person to download a full desktop distro (FC 3) on a Z. Then I rocked out on my bike on the way home, something you definitely can't do with an empty carbon shell.

Came home and installed it last night. primo stuff.
ZeeUser
Well, cracking open the Carbon is the only option for the Zauri without USB host. Also, using the Microdrive in the CF slot is less cumbersome than connecting the Carbon to the Zaurus via USB. With that said: I would buy two Carbons, one for the cheap Microdrive, and the other for music and external storage biggrin.gif
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