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fire
Hey everyone,

I just found a cool website that you can use to talk to the good folks of www.skype.com

they produce a GREAT voice over IP software for free (like MSN but way better quality)

Anyhow, there is ALREADY a version for Linux and QT!
So

click http://www.publicmind.com/enduser/group.jsp?node=1669

to request a port of skype for zaurus!

cheers
_Psycho
it is open source ? Its if already for linux and QT, thats probably so simple to compile for the zaurus.
Guest_DeMi-LAiT
Not opensource....
PeterL
Hi,
My company is using Skype, so I was quite happy to see this thread. However, with only 200 people having clicked, it's unlikely Skype will ever produce a Z version of their software. Anyway, I think it's far too heavy on bandwidth and processor power for the quality: even MSN works much smoother for audio chat, and I don't care too much about the qualitly loss. Does anyone have experience with the open standards that are available ? I'm trying to convince my company to switch to one of those, but if it isn't click&play and available for Windows, then it won't be accepted.
Peter.
V-Man
I haven't messed with VoIP software yet; it sounds interesting (my sister lives overseas). I do have a few questions though:
1. What software is available for the Z?
2. Is the same (interconnectability) software available for Windows computers, both handheld (ie iPaq) and desktop/laptop computers?
3. I assume that if it is available for the Z, it will also be available for linux desktop/laptop computers, correct me if I'm wrong.
4. What is the quality of the connection like?
5. What would anyone with some experience using this reccomend?
6. What additional hardware (ie speaker/mic) is needed and what do you'all reccomend?

Is there anything else I would need to know. Bear in mind, that I am a complete (clueless) newbie when it comes to this type of software. I just now am getting around to getting movies on the Z. Been using this thing for work so much, that I haven't had time to mess with the entertainment side of it yet.

Thanks
V-Man
speculatrix
I discovered the vote first, at http://www.publicmind.com/enduser/group.jsp?node=1669

then I came here to look for discussions.

has noone thought of porting "kphone"?

or persuading the xten.com people to port theirs?

Paul
xjqian
i casted my vote. I used skype on my PC to talk to my gf oversea. We've tried almost all kinds of sip softphones from FWD (free world dialup), like sjphone, x-lite, pulvercommunicator, etc and msn. I have to say skype is the best. the other's voice quality is trailing by a lot.

I use Kphone on my 6k occasionally. Kphone is not very stable and the delay after the ring tone to receive a call and placing a call is a pain.
saiten
Kphone works great for me on C760 with wifi - but we do have our own network of Asterisk servers and I use 2mb broadband.
Also IAXphone for zaurus is very useable, although again you need an Asterisk gateway to connect to.

The trouble with Skype is that it's tied into the Skype 'Kazaa' like peer to peer service. Skype can use your PC/device as a super node and pass it's voip traffic through your system - there-by using your bandwidth unknown to you. Also you can't tailor Skype to use any other voip gateways that you might want to use.

It's a very popular product and there's no doubt that voip is the future for voice communications but many Universities and large Co's have banned Skype because it leeches onto their servers using them as switching nodes & hacks huge chunks out of their bandwidth.

Plenty of discussion on the subject here:
http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/0...653217&from=rss

S
speculatrix
hint of skype on new platforms, maybe we'll get lucky.

http://www.engadget.com/entry/2635319328796286/

I emailed Skype and never heard a reply.

As posted elsewhere, I've used kphone/pi with our voip system at work over bluetooth, it works OK, but isn't 100% robust.

Paul
lpotter
QUOTE(speculatrix @ Apr 22 2005, 12:01 AM)
hint of skype on new platforms, maybe we'll get lucky.

http://www.engadget.com/entry/2635319328796286/

I emailed Skype and never heard a reply.

As posted elsewhere, I've used kphone/pi with our voip system at work over bluetooth, it works OK, but isn't 100% robust.

Paul
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Yes, there is a possibility of a skype client for Qtopia....
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speculatrix
QUOTE(lpotter @ Apr 22 2005, 04:32 AM)
Yes, there is a possibility of a skype client for Qtopia....
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hmmm, sounds like you have connections... can you give us another hint?
jpmatrix
i've just launched Gnomemeeting under Debian/XQt and it seems to at least playback my voice! i've to try a real chat.



QUOTE(speculatrix @ Apr 23 2005, 10:04 AM)
QUOTE(lpotter @ Apr 22 2005, 04:32 AM)
Yes, there is a possibility of a skype client for Qtopia....
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hmmm, sounds like you have connections... can you give us another hint?
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speculatrix
QUOTE(jpmatrix @ Apr 23 2005, 08:55 AM)
i've just launched Gnomemeeting under Debian/XQt and it seems to at least playback my voice! i've to try a real chat.


gnomemeeting is quite good, I think it's an H.264 client plus SIP phone?

skype is entirely proprietary.

we'll just have to get our windows-using friends to download the www.xten.com soft phone and sign up with www.FreeWorldDialup.com (which is pretty good)... snag with SIP (an open protocol) is that it's a pain to get it to work when you're using RFC1918 addressing and NAT (network address translation), which many people on DSL use if they're sharing their internet connection using a modem/router.

Paul
jpmatrix
QUOTE(speculatrix @ Apr 24 2005, 08:11 PM)
we'll just have to get our windows-using friends to download the www.xten.com soft phone and sign up with www.FreeWorldDialup.com (which is pretty good)... snag with SIP (an open protocol) is that it's a pain to get it to work when you're using RFC1918 addressing  and NAT (network address translation), which many people on DSL use if they're sharing their internet connection using a modem/router.

Paul
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Paul,
That's EXACTLY what i tried last weekend ! i installed Kphone/Pi and i tried FWD (and another one) SIP provider and i failed ! i guessed my trouble come from my Linksys router tied to my Thomson adsl modem...... although i opend and route the listed ports i could not have anything to work....could you help please ?
speculatrix
QUOTE(jpmatrix @ Apr 26 2005, 10:21 PM)
That's EXACTLY what i tried last weekend ! i installed Kphone/Pi and i tried FWD (and another one) SIP provider and i failed ! i guessed my trouble come from my Linksys router tied to my Thomson adsl modem...... although i opend and route the listed ports i could not have anything to work....could you help please ?
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you have to do some trickery, whereby you tell the router to port forward the RTP ports to the sip phone, as well as port forward the SIP port on 5600.

I think you also have to tell the sip phone the external IP address on the router.

I avoided all of this by putting my adsl modem router in bridge mode, so that the PC has the real IP address.

very very briefly...

you see, the problem is that a VOIP call takes place in two parts. There's the *s*ession *i*nitiation *p*rotocol which is where one phone request to make a call to another via the sip server, and says to the sip server where (i.e. IP address) it is. The remote phone then accepts.

the second part is where the RTP is a stream of audio data directly between the phones... if either sip phone is hiding behind a NAT gateway (e.g. a cable modem/router or adsl modem router which does connection sharing), RTP can't get through. The NAT gateway has to understand SIP to make it work. Or run a SIP proxy instead.

the classic resulting problem is that one phone can ring the other, but not the other way round, and/or you can only hear audio in one direction. use the echo test on FWD to test this out.

google for more info and help.

Paul
speculatrix
I got a response to a ticket I raised with Skype, when I pointed out that the Z was the most popular PDA in Japan, and that a qt/embedded version would be v popular anyway.

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Skype on with qtopia/opie - e.g. zaurus

Hi,

Yes, we are thinking about making Skype available for Zaurus PDA aswell, but since our primary objective is to make the best voice-application on the planet, this feature will probably not be available in near future.

Also, check our forums (forum.skype.com), people often post their ideas and suggestions there and the first ideas to go to production are the ones which have the most supporters.

Best regards,
Helen
Skype Support
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