Thanks for the heads up on that, Chero!

Anybody can advise on the install questions I have??

Thanks!

Mark

I installed the X/Qt on my C3000, and want to run pocketworkstation. But when click then startx icon, the Xserver screen just flash then disapper, I get the message in the terminal:


my .xinitrc just like this:


who can help me?

You say you installed X/Qt on your 3000, and say you want to run pocketworkstation, but you don't say that you have installed pocketworkstation and set up the chroot environment. Tell us a little bit more and maybe we can help.

Edit: I just noticed a possible error in your .xintrc file -- your export DISPLAY line. I have a startd file in my debian chroot environment with this line:

export DISPLAY=0:0

Bill

I was try export DISPLAY=0:0, but I get the same error. and I have installed pocketworkstation, write the startd file. when I run startx, the icewm report can't be display at :0.0 (or 0:0).
I start qpe with root user, my pocketworkstation was mount on /hdd3/.debroot (in the internal microdrive) with a 64m swapfile, my .xinitrc like this:

my startd like this:

I mean the X/Qt must be runing corret first pocketworkstation, but now my X/Qt can't run normally.

YongYan, I do not know if the situation on the 3000 is the same as on the 6k, but I cannot connet to X from Root.

I have to start it as zaurus user in order to have Xqt and the Pocketworkstation start.
Did you try to start it as normal user?

Adalberto

I can startup X server with root user before I format the internal microdrive (/dev/hda3 on my C3000) to the ext2 filesystem. I don't know if ext2fs make this error.

I have this same problem on my 6000. The programs close as soon as i open them.

This happend to me too. I downloaded the new version and then everything worked fine. Maybe you have some corrupt files?

About to finally try and install Debian with X/QT....

Already have a question for someone please....

I found that there are 2 different 'glibc-locale' files on the download page listed below. Item number 3 in the quote below just refers to a 'glibc-locale' file....

The 2 files are:

glibc-locale-ja-eucjp_2.2.2-1_arm.ipk

glibc-locale-ja-utf8_2.2.2-1_arm.ipk

Can anyone clarify as to whether I need to install both of them or just one?

If one only, which one??

Thanks!

Mark

Got XQt Installed OK and working!

Now, trying to get Debian installed but ran into snag...
hope someone can advise please...

I want to reformat a 1GB SD card I've already used in my C3000.

Here's what happened:



Any suggestions on how to unmount card or reformat it to 'ext2' ???

Thanks,

Mark

Should be

not uumount
You can use

to format your sd card.

You can use

to see where /mnt/card is mount from and format it.

good luck
unplug

That did it, unplug!!

THANKS,

Mark
C3000 Zster that obviously needs to get his eyes checked...

OK, managed to get through most of Debian install instructions per those in the PocketWorkstationXQT-Debian Wiki, dated Jan. 7, 2005....
<http://wiki.debian.net/?PocketWorkstationXQT>

I've gotten as far as the 'Final Setup Procedures' section, step no. 6....

I've stopped where it says just under that step 'You can remove the debroot/INSTALL.d file since it wasn't used anyways'.

The reason I've stopped here is that in the other X-qt-Debian instructions by smuelas on his webpage <http://w3.mecanica.upm.es/~smuelas/debianxqt.html> he says to follow the instructions by Klaus UNTIL the instruction "./debroot/INSTALL.d/postinst.sh".

However, I don't see that step listed in the PocketWorkstationXQT instructions that I've been using...

So...my question is, do I continue and follow the rest of the PocketWorkstationXQT-Debian Wiki instructions or ????

Thanks for any help!

Mark

if you plan to use only xqt, then , no you don't need anything in INSTALL.d imho. I'd have a loock at the pocketworkstation docs and maybe shoot a note to klauss, though.
the fbvnc stuff is upadted... if it works on your 3k it might be woth looking at-- itis pretty cool, and with the shared memory setup might be snappier than xqt. The xqt setup is pretty slick, though , so if youa re just dying to get going, untar to debroot, setup xqt and chroot away:)

Thanks for your input, adf....

However, as a Linux Noob, I'm not real sure what you mean by:



How does this relate to running Debian in this setup??

Sorry for my ignorance, but I'm in the process of learning Linux and trying to use my Z to help me along the way with my self-learning studying with some Linux books I have....

Hopefully, my dumb questions will help some other 'Z noobs' out there...

Thanks,

Mark

keep in mind I have a 6000-- 3000 might do some diferent stuff... BUT, the basics should be the same.

INSTALL.d has setup scripts that setup the pocketworkstation fbvncserver/client and tie in to the sharprom setup for stuff like power management when you are in the pocketworkstation vnc

If you are using the xqt setup, then you won't need or use (right now anyway) the vnc stuff, nor will you require system integration scripts to be run, because you are already in your Qtopia system when you are using xqt. It simplifies things in this regard.

So.. don't bother doing the pocketworkstation setup stuff.. skip doing INSTALL.d/postinst.sh.

I find it helps to copy my /ect.resolv.conf to /debroot/etc/resolv.conf. your mileage may vary.

THANKS A LOT, adf for clarifying this!

Now I get it....

Really appreciate it!....

Mark
C3000

welcome.

Sorry, but a few more questions....

1) I do see the StartX and X/Qt Server icons in my Qtopia Applications tab. I can open up StartX OK and I get the terminal window after a short wait. However, my shift key doesn't work....

I assume this relates to the keymap file...

When I typed in Sharp Terminal window:



Any suggestions how to get this working properly??


2) In the PocketWorkstationXQT - DebianWiki Instructions, under the heading 'You're Done!', it says "Click on the PocketWorkstation icon under your Applications tab".

I don't see any PocketWorkstation icon. Should I see one there?

Any suggestions on this?

Thanks,

Mark

I always used rxvt -the terminal that comes up in X- to type
xmodmap path-to/.xmodmaprc
export DISPLAY=0:0

do it in rxvt (or xterm) and see how it comes out

Thanks, adf...

Just tried that, but since my '/' key doesn't work, I can't type any paths in that window....

So here's what I tried (I'm working in directory where '.xmodmaprc' resides):



Sounds like permissions problem???

Checked file and it shows:


Any ideas??

Also, what about my other question...should I see icon for PocketWorkstation in Applications tab??

Thanks!

Mark

Yeah.... you need xmodmap to get the right keys in rxvt so you can make it all work....

use rxvt
do su

use the virtual keyboard to enter stuff till you have loaded the new keymap.

I should have mentioned su and the virtual keyboard, sorry

Thanks again, adf!

Don't know why I didn't think of using virtual keyboard....

Meanwhile, just tried as you suggested but still get same error message
"xmodmap: unable to open file '.xmodmaprc for reading
xmodmap: 1 error encountered, aborting."

Any other suggestions???

Thanks,

Mark

download a new copy of xmodmaprc

maybe do
chmod 777 "path-to"/xmodmaprc
?

tell rxvt the fullpath to xmodmaprc when you do xmodmap

chroot after you do xmodmap..or put xmodmap in debroot/someplace

Thanks, adf.....

Will try this later today when I can download file again & report back...

Thanks!

Mark

OK, adf, finally got it work!

Only thing now is that while shift key works and most keys are mapped correctly, some are not mapped right....for example the '/' symbol....

So have to figure out how to edit the xmodmaprc file, right??

Also, tried 'chroot' as you suggested after 'xmodmap /home/zaurus/.xmodmaprc'...

I got the following:


So making progress, right??.....

UPDATE: Per smuelas's install instructions, I tried what he instructed but got error message:


Mark

So.. you are running debian?

xmodmap can be edited in vi or nano pertty easily-- take a look at it, it is straightforward stuff.

I had that input/output error. I forgot what I did. I think I asked somebody on the xqt/debian thread. maybe there is an answer there?

you did do the export DISPLAY=0:0 bit before chrooting?

Thanks for your help, adf...really appreciate it!



Good question.... ...I've just gotten as far as I've described in my previous posts...



Will do....



I thought this was the xqt/debian thread....



Yes, I did that....

Mark

I guess it is the right thread.

you linked XQT to X?

read smuelas webpage?

urgh. it is a simple thing, too.

check fstab?

Yes, I linked XQT to X per instructions on smuelas webpage....

Didn't check fstab....what should I look for??

Thanks,

Mark

I wasn't thinking. You should be fine on the fdtab.

there is a /proc link....but it shouldn"cause problems at this point.

still same error?

did you use tar zxvpf p for permissions when you untarred pw?

can ypu chroot /mnt/cf/debroot from a regular commandline?

Good...


Think I did that along the way...


Well, I tried:


Any suggestions?


I followed PocketWorkstationXQT - DebianWiki install instructions and did:


Think so, see above....

Thanks,

Mark

Yes.
the "DISPLAY" in export DISPLAY=0:0 has to be capitalized.

they way you wrote it you didn't reassign the display.
"display" is nothing. "DISPLAY" is meaningful as far as your z is concerned

WHOOPS.... you're right about that!!....

OK, fixed that and voila!!!....

Now I got IceWM running!!....

Right now set to 'icedesert' theme, very white....tried to set to another
theme, but doesn't want to change, acts as if it's going to change, but then display refreshes and comes back the same, no change....

Next step on my way, is to do 'apt-get' right??

Thanks,

Mark

yep.. apt get.

things to know.

apt-get clean cleans out the downloded files and frees up a good bit of space after you have apt-gotten stuff.

Use apt-get update to update your lists
use apt-get upgrade to upgrade your system in its current config
use apt-get dist-upgrade to upgrade the system entirely.

dist-upgrade can be weird on pocket workstation. I suggest you back up before you try it.

for now, since the system if fairly fresh, I'd suggest going with a simple apt-get upgrade... and then the packages you want and a "clean"

Thanks once more for your help, adf!

Meanwhile, tried to see if I could get connected to internet this afternoon, so I could do 'apt-get upgrade'...can't figure out how to do it with this setup...

I have choice of either using my Socket CF Ethernet card or my Ambicom WL1100-CF WiFi card.

Any suggestions/guidance??

thanks,

Mark

connect in qtopia

copy /etc/resolv.conf to /mnt/cf--or whatever your dive is called/debroot/etc/

the thing with this setup is you occasionally have to copy or link bits of qtopia int debroot (it mostly tells you how) and it is way easier to do background "machine control" type stuff in qtopia and then pop back over to debian. since you are using xqt, though, it is merely a matter tapping icons to switch back and forth.

OK, did the 2 steps as you instructed below....

then typed 'apt-get upgrade' in aterm window...

then I get:


I must be missing something still??

Thanks,

Mark

Thanks, adf,

OK, just tried what you suggested....
However, no go...online that is...

I get message at bottom of Dillo browser window:


I do see a little tiny black square in lower right corner of iceWM statusbar at bottom of
my display that 'pulsates' graphically when it's trying to connect, before I get error message.

I am connected to net in Qtopia and I did copy over that resolv.conf file before.....

Thanks,

Mark

No, I just copied over that file from /etc/resolv.conf to /mnt/card/debroot/etc...

Will do that now...

Thanks, smuelas!

Mark

out of curiosity... copying resolv.conf over has always done precisely that... copied in the dns in use..
ideas why it didn't work here?

i would like to thank you all, i've installed the xqt after having read all this thread and it worked straight forward. no stress, no freeze, runs like a charm, really impressed by the speed (installed 128 swap)

but, (yes there is a but ) i have a little pb.
i cant start any application witin the icewm when clicked. the solution is to launch it from the console, being root.

is there anything to add to solve that?
another thing i didn't managed , is the toolbar, i read somewhere i had to ad a line with
"toolbarattop=1". or i didnt put it into the good place ; or i missed something. could you please help?
merci
Raph

I believe it is case sensitive.

yes, sorry about my last message, i quickly posted it from work, in fact i followed the step by step but it was not clear where to write it

well, my website has instructions on where exactly it needs to be

i will have a look asap. thanks

i assume you are talking about this part of your huuuuuuuuuuuuuuge webpage

"
After you have installed Firefox, you need to start X-Qt and then start firefox from a terminal to create an initial profile. However, it will partially fail because the zaurus user does not have sufficient priviledges. From within a terminal type:

# firefox


Firefox will start and terminate. That's ok. Now run firefox again as root.

# su
# firefox


Exit from Firefox and continue to do the following:

# cp -R /home/root/.mozilla/profiles/default.*/* /home/zaurus/.mozilla/profiles/default.*/
# chown -R zaurus /home/zaurus/.mozilla
"
so i'll have to do that for all app i have to start?

not at all. you only need to do this for firefox (this is because of a bug in firefox
alternatively, you could run firefox as root all the time and don't worry about it, but it would be less secure.