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conundrum
First of all, I'm looking to get a screen protector, reccomendations? Do any of you use 3rd party styli? Also, I bought my 860 with an extended battery, is there a "normal" sized one?

Finally, when will gcc be ready for the zaurus? There are a few applications I find myself missing sorely (like pico and epic, for when I don't want to run X).
chrisd
Instructions for pdaXrom RC5

1) Download the development image (here).

2) mkdir /opt/arm/3.3.2-vfp

3) mount -o loop /path/to/gcc-3.3.2.img /opt/arm/3.3.2-vfp

4) Ready smile.gif
conundrum
That will run gcc succesfully on the Zaurus? Configure scripts and all? ohmy.gif
pgas
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That will run gcc succesfully on the Zaurus? Configure scripts and all?


yes but:

for configure scripts,
* you'll need at least to install make.
* Some configure script requires additional tools, like the one in coreutils-extra.
*Some applications require lots of memory to compile so you will need to activate a swap in these cases.
* And finally some application might not be running out of the box on arm.

Note that it is NOT as bad as it may sound, and it is often easy to compile apps natively
conundrum
Hrmm. This can't be good.

CODE
mount: can't find /opt/arm/3.3.2-vfp in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
scoutme
brando ultra clear protectors are fantastic - do not get a stupid/glary one, or you'll start hating your z.
The 860 comes Only inthe "extended battery" configuration you bought - you ca buy the small battery, anyway.
Finally, compiling on zaurus is very effective - you have all you need in the pdaxrom feed: gcc, bison, make and a lot of libs - also, you can use sources and compliled package directly from debian feed - obviously ARM binaries
chrisd
@ conundrum

Please post your steps and the full mount command you're using.
gromituk
I would second the recommendation for the Bando screen protectors, as sold in the UK by ShirtPocket. When I imported my 860 from a Japanese company, I asked for a screen protector at the same time. This has a matt surface which greatly reduced the quality of the display by giving it a speckly appearance. I imagine these ordinary protectors are fine for displays with larger pixels, but they are really bad news for a 3.7" VGA job. The Bando ones are virtually invisible.

I also bought a PDAir stylus, which has a built-in pen and reset pin. It looks and feels better, but the unscrewable reset pin end broke off when I dropped it - not very impressive. I can glue it in permanently, though, as the Z doesn't have a reset button.
conundrum
chrisd: I used the exact commands you posted (obviously with the correct path to zgcc).

gromituk: Thanks. I was looking at the PDAir stylus, but I just don't see myself using the pen. If I wanted a heavier stylus, I would just buy a 5600 one off Sharp. wink.gif What about a case? The ones on PDAir concern me, looks like they use clips. The case on this is beautiful, and I more want something to keep it in while moving from place to place than a book cover of sorts.

EDIT: Nevermind. Missed "loop" after -o somehow.
gromituk
The pen can be useful if you actually need to write something and you only have the Z with you!

I have the PDAir case, too. It makes the Z quite a bit bulkier, but is very quick to open. It's a little scary bending the clips to fit into the holes in the Z, but so far the system has worked well. My main criticism is that the rigid base plate makes removing CF memory cards difficult, because you can't get your finger underneath. No problem with wifi cards though, because you just pull them out by the aerial extension.

Before I got the PDAir case, I used an old neoprene zip-up case from a Palm folding keyboard. It was a little large, and of course takes longer to open than the PDAir case. But it protected well.
scoutme
also, aluminium cases are nice. But they act as boxes, and you have to pick your z out of them. When I bought my sl-c860, I bought an aluminium case, cause I thought it was cool, thin, tough and a lot better of those ugly PDAir cases.

Now I have a PDAir leather case, and I don't use aluminium case anymore. As to speed, PDair leather cases are umbeatable; you can take the CF card inserted, and you have not to thorow them away when using the zaurus.
On the other hand, you have a Sharp Big Mac instead of a Sharp Mac Toast.
gromituk
How do you get a CF memory card out? I can just about do it by pushing my index finger underneath, but it's awkward and I'm sure it puts undesirable forces on the machine.

Note for others: apart from this, everything except the battery compartment is easily accessible using a PDair case, and you don't have to open the cover to plug in the charger. A bit of a pain when you want to re-flash. smile.gif
conundrum
On the topic of flashing, I can't believe there is no reset button. It's great to think your software is stable, but don't screw your users over when it does crash. sleep.gif

What do you guys think of this case? http://conics.net/shp/pda/zaurus-sl-c700/c...palmpal-03.html Anyone own one? As I said I'm looking more for something to keep it in while I'm moving around, not a 24/7 protective shell.
gromituk
There isn't a reset button - the way to reset it is to take the battery out.
scoutme
@gromituk: just pull the CF. You just force on somthing that's made to be forced (the anchor system). Just like pcmcia on notebook, where you can get out cards by pressing the button OR by simply pulling

@conundrum: tha case looks good to me. The aluminium one maybe will be good too, if not more for your needs: it's the most resistent, and it's not 24/7
conundrum
Alright, thanks scoutme.

If you're willing to entertain a few more questions, I'd really appreciate it. Cacko's installer, once it's up and running can I unplug the unit from AC? Also, DivX doesn't play very well, and I'm reflashing as I type this, so I haven't tested the newest compile. The audio plays great, but the video is one frame and thats it.

My final question is probably complicated, and way above my head so here goes. I've seen Ashley's thread, and tried to read it. But I have no clue how to do much other than replace the updater.sh file. :/ Is this all very easy, and I just don't realize it, or is it complicated and not something I should toy with?
jerrybme
QUOTE(gromituk @ Dec 16 2004, 11:22 AM)
Note for others: apart from this, everything except the battery compartment is easily accessible using a PDair case, and you don't have to open the cover to plug in the charger.  A bit of a pain when you want to re-flash.  smile.gif

An easier way to get to the reflashing menu without pulling the battery is to hold down the "OK" button right after issuing the reboot command and keep holding it down during the shut-down process. It will reboot into the flashing menu. Much easier wink.gif

Cheers,
Jerry
scoutme
QUOTE(conundrum @ Dec 16 2004, 10:30 AM)
Alright, thanks scoutme.

If you're willing to entertain a few more questions, I'd really appreciate it. Cacko's installer, once it's up and running can I unplug the unit from AC? Also, DivX doesn't play very well, and I'm reflashing as I type this, so I haven't tested the newest compile. The audio plays great, but the video is one frame and thats it.

My final question is probably complicated, and way above my head so here goes. I've seen Ashley's thread, and tried to read it. But I have no clue how to do much other than replace the updater.sh file. :/ Is this all very easy, and I just don't realize it, or is it complicated and not something I should toy with?

the Ashley script is quite easy to use, indeed. Be sure to follow instructions. You should toy with it as much as you should with reflashing wink.gif


Quite strange that your divx do not run properly. Are they slow or stuck?
Be sure they are smaller or equal to 320x240, and run them full screen - even if running them at higher resolution should be slower nut not so bad as it seems you are experiencing

Also, there are a lot of threads about watching movies on zaurus
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