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nontrivial
Hey, I tried to compile a whole bunch of stuff I would like to use on my SLC-750 running PDAXROM, but so far I've only had success with a couple. But, I really haven't tried that hard yet, rsync and gnokii played nice out of the box. Unfortunately these really aren't tested. I had a problem that turned out to be a just-barely-defective-enough-to-not-work D-Link DCF-660W wireless card. During my several days of troubleshooting I flashed my Zaurus with Cacko ROM since the card worked well with that ROM. But I think it got zapped with static electricity or something, and just won't work now for some reason even though it acts like it should. So now I am waiting for RC6 to flash it again, and haven't tested these IPK's.

http://nexus.nontrivial.org:88/zaurus/packages/jdb/

James
amrein
Try this in a terminal: cardctl reset

Your card should be up again. This is a kernel issue. Driver issue only for this card perhaps.

Already reported in pdaXrom bug tracker. I heard that it has been fixed in rc6/rc7.
nontrivial
Thanks, but I tried that about two hours in. :-) The error I get is "can not set frequency" or something like that. I got a new card, works like a champ.

James
Chero
Does anyone have a copy of the gnokii 0.6.4 ipk ?

I can't find it on the www and the link seems to be dead.

Thanks,
Chero.
jandr
QUOTE(Chero @ Dec 5 2005, 05:08 PM)
Does anyone have a copy of the gnokii 0.6.4 ipk ?

I can't find it on the www and the link seems to be dead.

Thanks,
Chero.
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try here.
Chero
QUOTE(jandr @ Dec 5 2005, 08:43 PM)
QUOTE(Chero @ Dec 5 2005, 05:08 PM)
Does anyone have a copy of the gnokii 0.6.4 ipk ?

I can't find it on the www and the link seems to be dead.

Thanks,
Chero.
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try here.
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that's not the one. This one is for familiar and is based on glibc 2.3.2. The one i'm looking for is for pdaxrom and includes xgnokii.

Anyone ??
jandr
I've been trying to compile gnokii from sources but keep getting stuck shortly into the make with this error:
QUOTE
> make
make -C common/phones
make[1]: Entering directory `/mnt/card/gnokii-0.6.5/common/phones'
/bin/sh ../../libtool --mode=compile gcc -g -O2  -I../../include  -o generic.lo -c generic.c
gcc -g -O2 -I../../include -c generic.c  -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/generic.o
In file included from ../../include/gnokii-internal.h:39,
                from generic.c:37:
../../include/compat.h:163: error: parse error before "__extension__"
../../include/compat.h:163: error: parse error before '&&' token
make[1]: *** [generic.lo] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/mnt/card/gnokii-0.6.5/common/phones'
make: *** [common/phones] Error 2

and I'm not versant in C enough to know what's up... although I do know that compat.h doesn't have any mention of "__extension__", so it's something more subtle. I've tried gnokii 0.6.4 and 0.6.10 from fresh sources, and 0.6.5 with debian's 0.6.5-1 patch applied, all with the same error. (Ditto with both the stock
zgcc-3.4.4.img and the qt-including zgcc-3.3.2.img from the "Native -- C++ / Qt, Compiling C++ w/ Qt natively on zaurus" thread.)
Chero
I've got gnokii and xgnokii 0.6.9 running.
I'm using irda right now, still got to figure out how bluetooth works.

Click to view attachment
gromituk
Just tried your attachment, with an /etc/gnokiirc containing:

[global]
port = /dev/ircomm0
model = AT
initlength = default
connection = infrared
bindir = /usr/local/sbin

It's a Nokia 8890 which apparently uses the AT "model".

I did the "/etc/rc.d/init.d/irda start" and switched on the infrared on the phone.

gnokii --identify responds with "Telephone interface init failed" and xgnokii "GSM/FBUS init failed!" which apparently means no comms with the phone sad.gif I suppose the phone could be broken.
Chero
QUOTE(gromituk @ Dec 18 2005, 11:18 PM)
Just tried your attachment, with an /etc/gnokiirc containing:

[global]
port = /dev/ircomm0
model = AT
initlength = default
connection = infrared
bindir = /usr/local/sbin

It's a Nokia 8890 which apparently uses the AT "model".

I did the "/etc/rc.d/init.d/irda start" and switched on the infrared on the phone.

gnokii --identify responds with "Telephone interface init failed" and xgnokii "GSM/FBUS init  failed!" which apparently means no comms with the phone  sad.gif  I suppose the phone could be broken.
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This is the rc-file that works for my 6310, I have it in /home/root as .xgnokiirc.
Maybe it can help you ?
cattin
QUOTE(gromituk @ Dec 19 2005, 12:18 AM)
Just tried your attachment, with an /etc/gnokiirc containing:

[global]
port = /dev/ircomm0
model = AT
initlength = default
connection = infrared
bindir = /usr/local/sbin

It's a Nokia 8890 which apparently uses the AT "model".

I did the "/etc/rc.d/init.d/irda start" and switched on the infrared on the phone.

gnokii --identify responds with "Telephone interface init failed" and xgnokii "GSM/FBUS init  failed!" which apparently means no comms with the phone  sad.gif  I suppose the phone could be broken.
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replace 'infrared' with 'irda' and it should work.

philippe
web-angel
QUOTE(Chero @ Dec 12 2005, 08:22 PM)
I've got gnokii and xgnokii 0.6.9 running.
I'm using irda right now, still got to figure out how bluetooth works.

Click to view attachment
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Chero, you gnokii package work , you only need bluez to work ..
But can you post xgnokii ?

I try to use it with a sony ericsson p800 but no success ... only dial works ... maybe it doesn't use AT command sad.gif ( I have try gnokii and gammu .. is it another soft that I haven't try ?)
Chero
QUOTE(web-angel @ Dec 19 2005, 01:13 PM)
QUOTE(Chero @ Dec 12 2005, 08:22 PM)
I've got gnokii and xgnokii 0.6.9 running.
I'm using irda right now, still got to figure out how bluetooth works.

Click to view attachment
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Chero, you gnokii package work , you only need bluez to work ..
But can you post xgnokii ?

I try to use it with a sony ericsson p800 but no success ... only dial works ... maybe it doesn't use AT command sad.gif ( I have try gnokii and gammu .. is it another soft that I haven't try ?)
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xgnokii should be included.
I didn't include a menu-entry or .desktop-file, shame on me.
From command line :
CODE
# xgnokii &

Make sure to open irda first, if you are using infrared.

What do you mean by only needing bluez to work, did you manage to get it working with bluetooth ?

Chero.
web-angel
QUOTE(Chero @ Dec 19 2005, 01:30 PM)
xgnokii should be included.
I didn't include a menu-entry or .desktop-file, shame on me.
From command line :
CODE
# xgnokii &

Make sure to open irda first, if you are using infrared.

What do you mean by only needing bluez to work, did you manage to get it working with bluetooth ?


Duuhhh I have not try to launch it dry.gif .. but now the Z is charging so i don't disturb it (I think isn't good for the charge ...)

To open IRDA first ? how to do that ? With gnokki I only change IRDA to the setting and it works, i launch a command, that open the irda port and close it a the end automatically.

I use it by irda ... but at the launch it say : "missing shared librairie libluetooth.so" je crois ... j'ai donc installé bluez-lib.ipk et cela a resolut le probleme. LOOOOL tongue.gif excuse me, I repeat laugh.gif
I use it by irda ... but at the launch it say : "missing shared librairie libluetooth.so" so I install the package bluez-lib.ipk and after that it work fine. I haven't a BT card so I can't try BT connection.
gromituk
Thank you cattin and chero - yes, "connection = irda" does the trick. Now I get battery and signal, dialling and contacts, though it can't find any SMSs.

I've got a mad idea to get free (if slow!) roaming internet on the Z:

Z -> phone -> home (using free minutes) -> laptop modem -> laptop -> adsl -> internet!

I don't suppose I'll ever get it working but it would be fun to try!
Chero
QUOTE(web-angel @ Dec 19 2005, 01:47 PM)
I use it by irda ... but at the launch it say : "missing shared librairie libluetooth.so" je crois ... j'ai donc installé bluez-lib.ipk et cela a resolut le probleme. LOOOOL  tongue.gif excuse me, I repeat  laugh.gif
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C'est tres bien that you repeat parce que je parle francais comme une vache espagnole.
Mais je l'avais compris.
(Just hope you understand my french) cool.gif

@ gromituk :
Good luck smile.gif

Does anyone use bluetooth with gnokii ? huh.gif

Chero
gromituk
Ooh - SMSs work too - I hadn't realised you had to activate them. Rather nifty piece of software actually. The setup menu (bottom right of main window) dies with a segfault though. Also, it doesn't recover if the IR connection is broken. It would be nice if you could switch on and off the comms while the program is running.
Chero
QUOTE(gromituk @ Dec 19 2005, 10:09 PM)
Ooh - SMSs work too - I hadn't realised you had to activate them.  Rather nifty piece of software actually.  The setup menu (bottom right of main window) dies with a segfault though.  Also, it doesn't recover if the IR connection is broken.  It would be nice if you could switch on and off the comms while the program is running.
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I know about the setting menu, I don't know why it segfaults.
Is anyone using this one a laptop or a desktop and knows all about it ? Or will I have to search the gnokii archives for this ?

All tips and tricks are welcome. smile.gif

As for now, I can send an sms without having to fight my mobile phone (I hate typing on it). My main goal is to connect it through bluetooth, so I dont need a flat surface any longer to place my mobile's and Z's infrared ports in the right positions.

Have fun,
Chero.
web-angel
Hello !

Duuhhh since I have charge my Z (ok, no relation ...) I have this error message when I launch gnokii :

"error while loading shared libraries : libgnokii.so.2 cannot open shared object file : no such file or directory"

I have try "ipkg-link mount /mnt/card" to recreat link but it doesn't work until I re-install the package. (but at the next reboot, same error)

And when I re-install package it's like the Ir / port is locked :
Ircomm0 stale, overriding ....

What can I do please ? (have try to install it on /mnt/card and /user)
Have a nive day

Edit : I don't understand ... The Ir port seems blocked because it boucle with the message "transmitter busy" ... I have found /var/lock/ircomm0 var who seem's to lock the port, delete it but problem still ...
Chero
QUOTE(web-angel @ Dec 20 2005, 01:58 PM)
Hello !

Duuhhh since I have charge my Z (ok, no relation ...) I have this error message when I launch gnokii :

"error while loading shared libraries : libgnokii.so.2 cannot open shared object file : no such file or directory"

I have try "ipkg-link mount /mnt/card" to recreat link but it doesn't work until I re-install the package. (but at the next reboot, same error)

And when I re-install package it's like the Ir / port is locked :
Ircomm0 stale, overriding ....

What can I do please ? (have try to install it on /mnt/card and /user)
Have a nive day

Edit : I don't understand ... The Ir port seems blocked because it boucle with the message "transmitter busy" ... I have found /var/lock/ircomm0 var who seem's to lock the port, delete it but problem still ...
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before I start xgnokii :
# /etc/rc.d/init.d/irda start
When I exit xgnokii :
# /etc/rc.d/init.d/irda stop

I never had a problem (only once, but then I ran ....stop and ... start). Now I do it every time, it seems to work.

I don't know much about gnokii and there doesn't seem to be any help about xgnokii available.

I've also compiled "gnocky", another gui for gnokii, but there doesn't seem to be improvement. The readme in the gnokii package talked about creating a "gnokii"-user and running gnokii as this user. Maybe that's the trick ? Will check later.

About your lib-problem after reboot. Do you make sure to leave all apps before you reboot ? Why do you reboot so often ?
There are a few packages with the behaviour you described (broken libs when not shut down properly before a reboot). This can be solved by installing those packages (or just the libs) in "/". (it doesn't seem to happen then).
I have gnokii installed on /mnt/ide and don't have this problem, but I haven't rebooted during the last few weeks.

BTW : it's not bad for your battery to interupt loading or to use during loading, if it's a Lion battery it's even bad to fully charge and fully discharge everytime. (Google)

Chero.
web-angel
QUOTE(Chero @ Dec 20 2005, 06:56 PM)
before I start xgnokii :
# /etc/rc.d/init.d/irda start
When I exit xgnokii :
# /etc/rc.d/init.d/irda stop


YOU ARE A KILLER biggrin.gif yeah that work's with this command line ...
So with the P800 work :
- getting signal and battery
- getting contact (very slow operation, i am in 115000bps)
- dialing
I have not already try to send sms and I haven't found the way to get sms from the phone ... (I thing this GUI hasn't this fonction ...)

QUOTE(Chero @ Dec 20 2005, 06:56 PM)
About your lib-problem after reboot. Do you make sure to leave all apps before you reboot ? Why do you reboot so often ?


Yes, sure that all software are closed.
I reboot maybe one time per week ... Maybe it's because I was doing this with my palm :$

QUOTE(Chero @ Dec 20 2005, 06:56 PM)
There are a few packages with the behaviour you described (broken libs when not shut down properly before a reboot). This can be solved by installing those packages (or just the libs) in "/". (it doesn't seem to happen then).


I will try on the next reboot ...

QUOTE(Chero @ Dec 20 2005, 06:56 PM)
BTW : it's not bad for your battery to interupt loading or to use during loading, if it's a Lion battery it's even bad to fully charge and fully discharge everytime. (Google)


Right, I always charge pdas or phone at 70% (under the battery become too warm) and all 10 charge I make a complete discharging/ charging cycle.
But when you use your Z who is charging his battery ... the battery give power and receive power at the same time .. are you sure that is recommended ?
Chero
QUOTE(web-angel @ Dec 20 2005, 08:02 PM)
I have not already try to send sms and I haven't found the way to get sms from the phone ... (I thing this GUI hasn't this fonction ...)

Take a look at the screen-shot I posted : I was sending/reading sms's. Just click on sms (at the bottom of the circle), then activate "sending and receiving sms" in the messages-menu.

QUOTE(web-angel @ Dec 20 2005, 08:02 PM)
Yes, sure that all software are closed.
I reboot maybe one time per week ... Maybe it's because I was doing this with my palm :$

I don't do this. I only reboot when something is really wrong, which happens rarely.

QUOTE(web-angel @ Dec 20 2005, 08:02 PM)
Right, I always charge pdas or phone at 70% (under the battery become too warm) and all 10 charge I make a complete discharging/ charging cycle.
But when you use your Z who is charging his battery ... the battery give power and receive power at the same time .. are you sure that is recommended ?

Don't know what is best for batteries, I'm no specialist in this. I just don't think it is bad to use the zaurus while it's on AC-power. I don't think it really drains the battery, I think it just slows down the loading-proces.
Just use it the way you like, I wouldn't want to give bad advise. I was just saying what google told me. rolleyes.gif

Have fun.
Killer. cool.gif
web-angel
QUOTE(Chero @ Dec 20 2005, 10:00 PM)
QUOTE(web-angel @ Dec 20 2005, 08:02 PM)
I have not already try to send sms and I haven't found the way to get sms from the phone ... (I thing this GUI hasn't this fonction ...)

Take a look at the screen-shot I posted : I was sending/reading sms's. Just click on sms (at the bottom of the circle), then activate "sending and receiving sms" in the messages-menu.


Okay I have found the option, I enable it but nothing happend ... maybe the p800 isn't compatible with this feature ...
Moreover I have say that the signal work, it was a mistake, it display always the same value, the batterie level seem's good.

Anyone has a Sony ericsson smartphone to test ?
gromituk
I was caught out by the menu option to enable SMSs also. As well as enabling that, you may have to touch on the in-box.

QUOTE(web-angel @ Dec 20 2005, 11:02 AM)
Right, I always charge pdas or phone at 70% (under the battery become too warm) and all 10 charge I make a complete discharging/ charging cycle.
But when you use your Z who is charging his battery ... the battery give power and receive power at the same time .. are you sure that is recommended ?
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The battery isn't giving and receiving power at the same time - that's impossible. The Z is taking power from the AC adaptor instead of the battery. The adaptor will also be charging the battery simultaneously, assuming the battery is not fully charged. (When fully charged, the Z stops charging.) As Chero says, because the Z is taking some of the power from the adaptor, the battery is likely to be charging more slowly than normal. This is not harmful to the battery at all - in fact, it may be beneficial.

I don't think there's any need to be so rigorous about charging at 70% and discharging fully every ten cycles. In fact, I would guess that this would do the battery more harm than good. Using the Z connected to the adaptor will make the battery last longer, because it is not being discharged at all by the Z. A battery is rated for a certain number of charge/discharge cycles, but these are full cycles - it can do many more partial cycles.

As you're in France, you will be using a different AC adaptor from the one that came with the Z. I am in the same situation as you. I have read that it is important that this adaptor is not capable of delivering MORE than ONE AMP because this will exceed the recommended battery charging rate.
web-angel
Thank's for you post ! (off topic but very usefull !)
Concerning the 70% I have read (i must re-find the link somewhere) that a research institue as said that when you charge something under 70% (okay, around 70%) the battery can become too warm ... and isn't good for is lifetime. And you must make sometimes full charge-discharge cycle altougth li-ion battery hasn't memory effect. I have make this by exemple with my smartphone, 3years of uptime and battery life still very good (about 75-80% of origin).
I'm dumm ... you have right for charging the Z while using it ... and double right when you say that you must (when it's possible) use it with adaptator.
For charging the Z I use the japanese adaptator with a 220-110, japan-france adaptator. I have a zipling for charging but never tested ... I hope that an usb port doesn't exceed 1A ...

QUOTE(gromituk @ Dec 21 2005, 01:28 AM)
I was caught out by the menu option to enable SMSs also.  As well as enabling that, you may have to touch on the in-box.

QUOTE(web-angel @ Dec 20 2005, 11:02 AM)
Right, I always charge pdas or phone at 70% (under the battery become too warm) and all 10 charge I make a complete discharging/ charging cycle.
But when you use your Z who is charging his battery ... the battery give power and receive power at the same time .. are you sure that is recommended ?
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The battery isn't giving and receiving power at the same time - that's impossible. The Z is taking power from the AC adaptor instead of the battery. The adaptor will also be charging the battery simultaneously, assuming the battery is not fully charged. (When fully charged, the Z stops charging.) As Chero says, because the Z is taking some of the power from the adaptor, the battery is likely to be charging more slowly than normal. This is not harmful to the battery at all - in fact, it may be beneficial.

I don't think there's any need to be so rigorous about charging at 70% and discharging fully every ten cycles. In fact, I would guess that this would do the battery more harm than good. Using the Z connected to the adaptor will make the battery last longer, because it is not being discharged at all by the Z. A battery is rated for a certain number of charge/discharge cycles, but these are full cycles - it can do many more partial cycles.

As you're in France, you will be using a different AC adaptor from the one that came with the Z. I am in the same situation as you. I have read that it is important that this adaptor is not capable of delivering MORE than ONE AMP because this will exceed the recommended battery charging rate.
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Chero
QUOTE(web-angel @ Dec 20 2005, 10:37 PM)
QUOTE(Chero @ Dec 20 2005, 10:00 PM)
QUOTE(web-angel @ Dec 20 2005, 08:02 PM)
I have not already try to send sms and I haven't found the way to get sms from the phone ... (I thing this GUI hasn't this fonction ...)

Take a look at the screen-shot I posted : I was sending/reading sms's. Just click on sms (at the bottom of the circle), then activate "sending and receiving sms" in the messages-menu.


Okay I have found the option, I enable it but nothing happend ... maybe the p800 isn't compatible with this feature ...
Moreover I have say that the signal work, it was a mistake, it display always the same value, the batterie level seem's good.

Anyone has a Sony ericsson smartphone to test ?
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SMS :
after you enabled the option try to send an sms (click on the "new" button or select from the menu). When sending an sms, the inbox will sync with the inbox of the mobile. (at least, that's what happended on my Z)

Search the gnokii site (or the web) about the p800. If it's fully supported, there has to be something written about it. Some small changes in settings can do miracles.

If it's not fully supported, there's always gammu and wammu. (gammu is available somewhere, I don't think wammu has been compiled for the Z yet).

Keep on trying,
Chero.
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