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			<title>Meyer: Replace PHP-problematic three-period ellipses with &amp;amp;hellip;</title>
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			<description>&lt;p&gt;Replace PHP-problematic three-period ellipses with &amp;amp;amp;hellip;&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The only thing I've found that is not workable on the Z is the &amp;quot;[http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?act=Attach&amp;amp;type=post&amp;amp;id=442 Configure Data Types]&amp;quot; dialog in its present state.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The only thing I've found that is not workable on the Z is the &amp;quot;[http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?act=Attach&amp;amp;type=post&amp;amp;id=442 Configure Data Types]&amp;quot; dialog in its present state.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The top and bottom parts are off-screen, along with a couple of fields and the OK/Cancel buttons&amp;amp;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;ellip&lt;/del&gt;;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The top and bottom parts are off-screen, along with a couple of fields and the OK/Cancel buttons&amp;amp;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;hellip&lt;/ins&gt;;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;On my 760 the Cancel button on the keyboard dismisses the dialog, but the OK button does not validate it. So as far as I can tell, you can't *define* a new record type directly on the Zaurus version.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;On my 760 the Cancel button on the keyboard dismisses the dialog, but the OK button does not validate it. So as far as I can tell, you can't *define* a new record type directly on the Zaurus version.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I must say I never thought that differences between Sharp ROMs and OpenZaurus might present bigger problems than differences between Zaurus models&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I must say I never thought that differences between Sharp ROMs and OpenZaurus might present bigger problems than differences between Zaurus models&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* On the 760 keyboard the Enter and OK keys are also equivalent, and generally map to a dialog's OK/Yes button&amp;amp;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;ellip&lt;/del&gt;; but not on this one. Mostly it seems to call the &amp;quot;modify data type list&amp;quot; dialog, although it depends where the focus is.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* On the 760 keyboard the Enter and OK keys are also equivalent, and generally map to a dialog's OK/Yes button&amp;amp;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;hellip&lt;/ins&gt;; but not on this one. Mostly it seems to call the &amp;quot;modify data type list&amp;quot; dialog, although it depends where the focus is.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* There are other workarounds though : kham's idea works (nice call kham, see below !), and also you can tab your way to the OK button itself (4 tabs from the &amp;quot;output format&amp;quot; field, or 2 shift-tabs from the first field) and press Enter. But I agree it's strictly for emergencies only&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* There are other workarounds though : kham's idea works (nice call kham, see below !), and also you can tab your way to the OK button itself (4 tabs from the &amp;quot;output format&amp;quot; field, or 2 shift-tabs from the first field) and press Enter. But I agree it's strictly for emergencies only&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;  ipkg_install_file: ERROR unpacking control.tar.gz from treeline_0.8.1_sharp_arm.ipk&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;  ipkg_install_file: ERROR unpacking control.tar.gz from treeline_0.8.1_sharp_arm.ipk&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;BTW, that's the exact same error I received many times while trying to build my own ipk from the OZ original, which is why I ended up installing by hand. So there must be another difference somewhere &amp;amp;eklip; It's either something with the Cacko/Sharp installer, or something to do with the contents of the control file, despite its being plain text&amp;amp;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;ellip&lt;/del&gt;;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;BTW, that's the exact same error I received many times while trying to build my own ipk from the OZ original, which is why I ended up installing by hand. So there must be another difference somewhere &amp;amp;eklip; It's either something with the Cacko/Sharp installer, or something to do with the contents of the control file, despite its being plain text&amp;amp;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;hellip&lt;/ins&gt;;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Mo' Fun==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Mo' Fun==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Yes, I know there ain't no Star Wars episode 7, but just for kicks&amp;amp;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;ellip&lt;/del&gt;; When I started Treeline from the console today, to check on the above, I got a very [http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?act=Attach&amp;amp;type=post&amp;amp;id=446 different result] than on Friday.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Yes, I know there ain't no Star Wars episode 7, but just for kicks&amp;amp;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;hellip&lt;/ins&gt;; When I started Treeline from the console today, to check on the above, I got a very [http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?act=Attach&amp;amp;type=post&amp;amp;id=446 different result] than on Friday.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;More legible and easier on the eyes, no ? I've already seen both the small text/large text versions, but I'm not sure how to reliably get either. Guess it comes from launching through the console&amp;amp;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;ellip&lt;/del&gt;; I wonder which version a proper IPK installation with a working icon will give ? &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;More legible and easier on the eyes, no ? I've already seen both the small text/large text versions, but I'm not sure how to reliably get either. Guess it comes from launching through the console&amp;amp;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;hellip&lt;/ins&gt;; I wonder which version a proper IPK installation with a working icon will give ? &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Obviously though, the &amp;quot;[http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?act=Attach&amp;amp;type=post&amp;amp;id=447 Configure Data Types]&amp;quot; dialog problem just got worse.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Obviously though, the &amp;quot;[http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?act=Attach&amp;amp;type=post&amp;amp;id=447 Configure Data Types]&amp;quot; dialog problem just got worse.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I don't pretend to understand any of it, but it seems to boil down to this :&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I don't pretend to understand any of it, but it seems to boil down to this :&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;- either you take the treelinelauncher script that's called by the icon (Exec= in treeline.desktop) and you make it much more complicated using the stuff from the thread above (env, PYTHONPATH, output redirection, not sure which does it&amp;amp;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;ellip&lt;/del&gt;;)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;- either you take the treelinelauncher script that's called by the icon (Exec= in treeline.desktop) and you make it much more complicated using the stuff from the thread above (env, PYTHONPATH, output redirection, not sure which does it&amp;amp;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;hellip&lt;/ins&gt;;)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;- either you take it out of the loop entirely and just stick the path to treeline.py as the icon action, seems to work just as well :-)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;- either you take it out of the loop entirely and just stick the path to treeline.py as the icon action, seems to work just as well :-)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Okay, back to that darned ipk&amp;amp;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;ellip&lt;/del&gt;;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Okay, back to that darned ipk&amp;amp;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;hellip&lt;/ins&gt;;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Can you try the following please?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Can you try the following please?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Yes, I seem to remember such things being discussed in the forums sometime last year (maybe it was you :-).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Yes, I seem to remember such things being discussed in the forums sometime last year (maybe it was you :-).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Well, I had done just this without thinking about it during the course of my testing, and I just tried again just to be sure, and I can confirm it just works, even with my treeline.desktop calling treeline.py directly&amp;amp;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;ellip&lt;/del&gt;;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Well, I had done just this without thinking about it during the course of my testing, and I just tried again just to be sure, and I can confirm it just works, even with my treeline.desktop calling treeline.py directly&amp;amp;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;hellip&lt;/ins&gt;;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Actually it's very fortunate that it does, because there is one peculiar thing about launching treeline on my Z : quite often (&amp;quot;&amp;amp;ellip;but not quite always&amp;quot;, as seems to be my mantra these days :-), it will appear briefly then switch back to the desktop or to another app that's running. So you have to tap its icon on the taskbar to get it back.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Actually it's very fortunate that it does, because there is one peculiar thing about launching treeline on my Z : quite often (&amp;quot;&amp;amp;ellip;but not quite always&amp;quot;, as seems to be my mantra these days :-), it will appear briefly then switch back to the desktop or to another app that's running. So you have to tap its icon on the taskbar to get it back.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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			<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 14:59:33 GMT</pubDate>			<dc:creator>Meyer</dc:creator>			<comments>http://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=Talk:Playing_with_Python</comments>		</item>
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			<title>203.212.44.40: Replace three-period ellipses with &amp;amp;hellip;</title>
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			<description>&lt;p&gt;Replace three-period ellipses with &amp;amp;amp;hellip;&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?act=Attach&amp;amp;type=post&amp;amp;id=438 Here] is the main window, empty.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?act=Attach&amp;amp;type=post&amp;amp;id=438 Here] is the main window, empty.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;It looks just fine as a screenshot here, but believe me, on the Z those letters and icons are *SMALL*&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;... &lt;/del&gt;yes&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;... &lt;/del&gt;smaller than usual, even&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;It looks just fine as a screenshot here, but believe me, on the Z those letters and icons are *SMALL*&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&amp;amp;hellip; &lt;/ins&gt;yes&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&amp;amp;hellip; &lt;/ins&gt;smaller than usual, even&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==the General Options dialog==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==the General Options dialog==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;This is where the origins of zenyatta's port show through (QVGA, portrait).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;This is where the origins of zenyatta's port show through (QVGA, portrait).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The results on a [http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?act=Attach&amp;amp;type=post&amp;amp;id=439 landscape VGA], obviously, look a little  [http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?act=Attach&amp;amp;type=post&amp;amp;id=440 lopsided]&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;... &lt;/del&gt;but still perfectly workable :-)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The results on a [http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?act=Attach&amp;amp;type=post&amp;amp;id=439 landscape VGA], obviously, look a little  [http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?act=Attach&amp;amp;type=post&amp;amp;id=440 lopsided]&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&amp;amp;hellip; &lt;/ins&gt;but still perfectly workable :-)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The only thing I've found that is not workable on the Z is the &amp;quot;[http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?act=Attach&amp;amp;type=post&amp;amp;id=442 Configure Data Types]&amp;quot; dialog in its present state.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The only thing I've found that is not workable on the Z is the &amp;quot;[http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?act=Attach&amp;amp;type=post&amp;amp;id=442 Configure Data Types]&amp;quot; dialog in its present state.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The top and bottom parts are off-screen, along with a couple of fields and the OK/Cancel buttons&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;...&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The top and bottom parts are off-screen, along with a couple of fields and the OK/Cancel buttons&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&amp;amp;ellip;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;On my 760 the Cancel button on the keyboard dismisses the dialog, but the OK button does not validate it. So as far as I can tell, you can't *define* a new record type directly on the Zaurus version.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;On my 760 the Cancel button on the keyboard dismisses the dialog, but the OK button does not validate it. So as far as I can tell, you can't *define* a new record type directly on the Zaurus version.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I must say I never thought that differences between Sharp ROMs and OpenZaurus might present bigger problems than differences between Zaurus models&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I must say I never thought that differences between Sharp ROMs and OpenZaurus might present bigger problems than differences between Zaurus models&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* On the 760 keyboard the Enter and OK keys are also equivalent, and generally map to a dialog's OK/Yes button&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;... &lt;/del&gt;but not on this one. Mostly it seems to call the &amp;quot;modify data type list&amp;quot; dialog, although it depends where the focus is.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* On the 760 keyboard the Enter and OK keys are also equivalent, and generally map to a dialog's OK/Yes button&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&amp;amp;ellip; &lt;/ins&gt;but not on this one. Mostly it seems to call the &amp;quot;modify data type list&amp;quot; dialog, although it depends where the focus is.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* There are other workarounds though : kham's idea works (nice call kham, see below !), and also you can tab your way to the OK button itself (4 tabs from the &amp;quot;output format&amp;quot; field, or 2 shift-tabs from the first field) and press Enter. But I agree it's strictly for emergencies only&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* There are other workarounds though : kham's idea works (nice call kham, see below !), and also you can tab your way to the OK button itself (4 tabs from the &amp;quot;output format&amp;quot; field, or 2 shift-tabs from the first field) and press Enter. But I agree it's strictly for emergencies only&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;  ipkg_install_file: ERROR unpacking control.tar.gz from treeline_0.8.1_sharp_arm.ipk&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;  ipkg_install_file: ERROR unpacking control.tar.gz from treeline_0.8.1_sharp_arm.ipk&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;BTW, that's the exact same error I received many times while trying to build my own ipk from the OZ original, which is why I ended up installing by hand. So there must be another difference somewhere &lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;... &lt;/del&gt;It's either something with the Cacko/Sharp installer, or something to do with the contents of the control file, despite its being plain text&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;...&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;BTW, that's the exact same error I received many times while trying to build my own ipk from the OZ original, which is why I ended up installing by hand. So there must be another difference somewhere &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&amp;amp;eklip; &lt;/ins&gt;It's either something with the Cacko/Sharp installer, or something to do with the contents of the control file, despite its being plain text&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&amp;amp;ellip;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Mo' Fun==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Mo' Fun==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Yes, I know there ain't no Star Wars episode 7, but just for kicks&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;... &lt;/del&gt;When I started Treeline from the console today, to check on the above, I got a very [http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?act=Attach&amp;amp;type=post&amp;amp;id=446 different result] than on Friday.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Yes, I know there ain't no Star Wars episode 7, but just for kicks&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&amp;amp;ellip; &lt;/ins&gt;When I started Treeline from the console today, to check on the above, I got a very [http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?act=Attach&amp;amp;type=post&amp;amp;id=446 different result] than on Friday.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;More legible and easier on the eyes, no ? I've already seen both the small text/large text versions, but I'm not sure how to reliably get either. Guess it comes from launching through the console&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;... &lt;/del&gt;I wonder which version a proper IPK installation with a working icon will give ? &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;More legible and easier on the eyes, no ? I've already seen both the small text/large text versions, but I'm not sure how to reliably get either. Guess it comes from launching through the console&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&amp;amp;ellip; &lt;/ins&gt;I wonder which version a proper IPK installation with a working icon will give ? &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Obviously though, the &amp;quot;[http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?act=Attach&amp;amp;type=post&amp;amp;id=447 Configure Data Types]&amp;quot; dialog problem just got worse.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Obviously though, the &amp;quot;[http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?act=Attach&amp;amp;type=post&amp;amp;id=447 Configure Data Types]&amp;quot; dialog problem just got worse.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I don't pretend to understand any of it, but it seems to boil down to this :&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I don't pretend to understand any of it, but it seems to boil down to this :&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;- either you take the treelinelauncher script that's called by the icon (Exec= in treeline.desktop) and you make it much more complicated using the stuff from the thread above (env, PYTHONPATH, output redirection, not sure which does it&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;...&lt;/del&gt;)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;- either you take the treelinelauncher script that's called by the icon (Exec= in treeline.desktop) and you make it much more complicated using the stuff from the thread above (env, PYTHONPATH, output redirection, not sure which does it&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&amp;amp;ellip;&lt;/ins&gt;)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;- either you take it out of the loop entirely and just stick the path to treeline.py as the icon action, seems to work just as well :-)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;- either you take it out of the loop entirely and just stick the path to treeline.py as the icon action, seems to work just as well :-)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Okay, back to that darned ipk&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;...&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Okay, back to that darned ipk&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&amp;amp;ellip;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Can you try the following please?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Can you try the following please?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Yes, I seem to remember such things being discussed in the forums sometime last year (maybe it was you :-).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Yes, I seem to remember such things being discussed in the forums sometime last year (maybe it was you :-).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Well, I had done just this without thinking about it during the course of my testing, and I just tried again just to be sure, and I can confirm it just works, even with my treeline.desktop calling treeline.py directly&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;...&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Well, I had done just this without thinking about it during the course of my testing, and I just tried again just to be sure, and I can confirm it just works, even with my treeline.desktop calling treeline.py directly&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&amp;amp;ellip;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Actually it's very fortunate that it does, because there is one peculiar thing about launching treeline on my Z : quite often (&amp;quot;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;...&lt;/del&gt;but not quite always&amp;quot;, as seems to be my mantra these days :-), it will appear briefly then switch back to the desktop or to another app that's running. So you have to tap its icon on the taskbar to get it back.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Actually it's very fortunate that it does, because there is one peculiar thing about launching treeline on my Z : quite often (&amp;quot;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&amp;amp;ellip;&lt;/ins&gt;but not quite always&amp;quot;, as seems to be my mantra these days :-), it will appear briefly then switch back to the desktop or to another app that's running. So you have to tap its icon on the taskbar to get it back.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;It's not a problem, just a bit strange - the PyQt &amp;quot;demo app&amp;quot; (basic example) doesn't do this for example. And I *think* the behaviour was there with treelinelauncher, too.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;It's not a problem, just a bit strange - the PyQt &amp;quot;demo app&amp;quot; (basic example) doesn't do this for example. And I *think* the behaviour was there with treelinelauncher, too.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Oh, and I seem to remember that early in the thread there was a question about start times. Subjectively I find them quite acceptable : with my 760 running its usual set of apps (Ko/Pi, Opera, a couple of python instances and a Snakelet server) loading Treeline takes just under 10 seconds. Not bad ! A bit more than lighter, native apps (like Portabase), but on par with compiled code like Ko/Pi, Ka/Pi etc., and certainly much better than some monsters running on kdemicrolib (like Tuxcards and Kcommander) that take so much of forever to start that they need a splashscreen to warn the user&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;... &lt;/del&gt;Go Python/PyQt ! :-)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Oh, and I seem to remember that early in the thread there was a question about start times. Subjectively I find them quite acceptable : with my 760 running its usual set of apps (Ko/Pi, Opera, a couple of python instances and a Snakelet server) loading Treeline takes just under 10 seconds. Not bad ! A bit more than lighter, native apps (like Portabase), but on par with compiled code like Ko/Pi, Ka/Pi etc., and certainly much better than some monsters running on kdemicrolib (like Tuxcards and Kcommander) that take so much of forever to start that they need a splashscreen to warn the user&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&amp;amp;ellip; &lt;/ins&gt;Go Python/PyQt ! :-)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* I've given up on registering .trl files as a mime typ e in Qtopia because I couldn't get TreeLine to associate properly with them. At best, TreeLine would launch upon tapping on a file's icon but it didn't receive the file name on the command line - apparently Qtopia uses the QWidget::setDocument() slot to implement the association but I couldn't get it to work.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* I've given up on registering .trl files as a mime typ e in Qtopia because I couldn't get TreeLine to associate properly with them. At best, TreeLine would launch upon tapping on a file's icon but it didn't receive the file name on the command line - apparently Qtopia uses the QWidget::setDocument() slot to implement the association but I couldn't get it to work.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* I also updated the OZ ipk with one small bugfix (resizing when an input method area pops up). I can now finally leave SharpROM, re-flash OZ and move ahead with other things.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* I also updated the OZ ipk with one small bugfix (resizing when an input method area pops up). I can now finally leave SharpROM, re-flash OZ and move ahead with other things.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* I also updated the OZ ipk with one small bugfix (resizing when an input method area pops up). I can now finally leave SharpROM, re-flash OZ and move ahead with other things.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* I also updated the OZ ipk with one small bugfix (resizing when an input method area pops up). I can now finally leave SharpROM, re-flash OZ and move ahead with other things.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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			<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2006 18:07:54 GMT</pubDate>			<dc:creator>Phil284</dc:creator>			<comments>http://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=Talk:Playing_with_Python</comments>		</item>
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			<title>Nichole at 17:31, 19 November 2006</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* I also updated the OZ ipk with one small bugfix (resizing when an input method area pops up). I can now finally leave SharpROM, re-flash OZ and move ahead with other things.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* I also updated the OZ ipk with one small bugfix (resizing when an input method area pops up). I can now finally leave SharpROM, re-flash OZ and move ahead with other things.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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			<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2006 17:31:44 GMT</pubDate>			<dc:creator>Nichole</dc:creator>			<comments>http://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=Talk:Playing_with_Python</comments>		</item>
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			<title>Ken at 18:19, 17 July 2005</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;This is an extract of an conversation regarding Python and an attempt by fpp and zenyatta to fix a few Python issues surrounding it.  The original conversation can be found [http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=11440&amp;amp;hl= here].  You will need the [http://www.journey.sk/zaurus/treeline/treeline-zaurus-0.8.1.tgz developer version] of the port to follow the conversation.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;This is an extract of an conversation regarding Python and an attempt by fpp and zenyatta to fix a few Python issues surrounding it.  The original conversation can be found [http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=11440&amp;amp;hl= here].  You will need the [http://www.journey.sk/zaurus/treeline/treeline-zaurus-0.8.1.tgz developer version] of the port to follow the conversation.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Introduction==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Introduction==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Treeline is an app written in the '''python''' language.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[http://www.journey.sk/zaurus/treeline.php &lt;/ins&gt;Treeline&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;] &lt;/ins&gt;is an app written in the '''python''' language.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Python is an interpreted language, not compiled like C or C++, so to run apps written in it you need to have the python interpreter installed. Also, Treeline is a graphical app, and to make use of the Z's QTopia interface it needs a special library, PyQt, to access it from python code.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Python is an interpreted language, not compiled like C or C++, so to run apps written in it you need to have the python interpreter installed. Also, Treeline is a graphical app, and to make use of the Z's QTopia interface it needs a special library, PyQt, to access it from python code.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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			<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2005 18:19:21 GMT</pubDate>			<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>			<comments>http://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=Talk:Playing_with_Python</comments>		</item>
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			<title>Ken at 18:18, 17 July 2005</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;This is an extract of an conversation regarding Python and an attempt by fpp to fix a few Python issues surrounding it.  The original conversation can be found [http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=11440&amp;amp;hl= here].  You will need the [http://www.journey.sk/zaurus/treeline/treeline-zaurus-0.8.1.tgz developer version] of the port to follow the conversation.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;This is an extract of an conversation regarding Python and an attempt by fpp &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;and zenyatta &lt;/ins&gt;to fix a few Python issues surrounding it.  The original conversation can be found [http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=11440&amp;amp;hl= here].  You will need the [http://www.journey.sk/zaurus/treeline/treeline-zaurus-0.8.1.tgz developer version] of the port to follow the conversation.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Introduction==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Introduction==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Treeline is an app written in the '''python''' language.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Treeline is an app written in the '''python''' language.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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			<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2005 18:18:59 GMT</pubDate>			<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>			<comments>http://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=Talk:Playing_with_Python</comments>		</item>
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			<title>Ken: /* Icon works */</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;  2. Push the Home button to get back to Qtopia desktop.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;  2. Push the Home button to get back to Qtopia desktop.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;  3. Tap the TreeLine icon in the task bar to go back to TreeLine.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;  3. Tap the TreeLine icon in the task bar to go back to TreeLine.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;  I remember having a big problem with this - TreeLine would never come back up. My setup of treeline.desktop / treelinelauncher / treeline.py is the only way I found to make it work.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;  I remember having a big problem with this - TreeLine would never come back up.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/ins&gt;My setup of treeline.desktop / treelinelauncher / treeline.py is the only way I found to make it work.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Yes, I seem to remember such things being discussed in the forums sometime last year (maybe it was you :-).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Yes, I seem to remember such things being discussed in the forums sometime last year (maybe it was you :-).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Oh, and I seem to remember that early in the thread there was a question about start times. Subjectively I find them quite acceptable : with my 760 running its usual set of apps (Ko/Pi, Opera, a couple of python instances and a Snakelet server) loading Treeline takes just under 10 seconds. Not bad ! A bit more than lighter, native apps (like Portabase), but on par with compiled code like Ko/Pi, Ka/Pi etc., and certainly much better than some monsters running on kdemicrolib (like Tuxcards and Kcommander) that take so much of forever to start that they need a splashscreen to warn the user... Go Python/PyQt ! :-)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Oh, and I seem to remember that early in the thread there was a question about start times. Subjectively I find them quite acceptable : with my 760 running its usual set of apps (Ko/Pi, Opera, a couple of python instances and a Snakelet server) loading Treeline takes just under 10 seconds. Not bad ! A bit more than lighter, native apps (like Portabase), but on par with compiled code like Ko/Pi, Ka/Pi etc., and certainly much better than some monsters running on kdemicrolib (like Tuxcards and Kcommander) that take so much of forever to start that they need a splashscreen to warn the user... Go Python/PyQt ! :-)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* I've given up on registering .trl files as a mime typ e in Qtopia because I couldn't get TreeLine to associate properly with them. At best, TreeLine would launch upon tapping on a file's icon but it didn't receive the file name on the command line - apparently Qtopia uses the QWidget::setDocument() slot to implement the association but I couldn't get it to work.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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			<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2005 18:17:39 GMT</pubDate>			<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>			<comments>http://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=Talk:Playing_with_Python</comments>		</item>
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			<title>Ken: /* Icon works */</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Okay, back to that darned ipk...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Okay, back to that darned ipk...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;  1. Launch TreeLine by tapping on its icon.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;  2. Push the Home button to get back to Qtopia desktop.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;  3. Tap the TreeLine icon in the task bar to go back to TreeLine.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;  I remember having a big problem with this - TreeLine would never come back up. My setup of treeline.desktop / treelinelauncher / treeline.py is the only way I found to make it work.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Yes, I seem to remember such things being discussed in the forums sometime last year (maybe it was you :-).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Well, I had done just this without thinking about it during the course of my testing, and I just tried again just to be sure, and I can confirm it just works, even with my treeline.desktop calling treeline.py directly...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Actually it's very fortunate that it does, because there is one peculiar thing about launching treeline on my Z : quite often (&amp;quot;...but not quite always&amp;quot;, as seems to be my mantra these days :-), it will appear briefly then switch back to the desktop or to another app that's running. So you have to tap its icon on the taskbar to get it back.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;It's not a problem, just a bit strange - the PyQt &amp;quot;demo app&amp;quot; (basic example) doesn't do this for example. And I *think* the behaviour was there with treelinelauncher, too.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Oh, and I seem to remember that early in the thread there was a question about start times. Subjectively I find them quite acceptable : with my 760 running its usual set of apps (Ko/Pi, Opera, a couple of python instances and a Snakelet server) loading Treeline takes just under 10 seconds. Not bad ! A bit more than lighter, native apps (like Portabase), but on par with compiled code like Ko/Pi, Ka/Pi etc., and certainly much better than some monsters running on kdemicrolib (like Tuxcards and Kcommander) that take so much of forever to start that they need a splashscreen to warn the user... Go Python/PyQt ! :-)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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			<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2005 18:16:00 GMT</pubDate>			<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>			<comments>http://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=Talk:Playing_with_Python</comments>		</item>
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			<title>Ken: /* Icon works */</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Icon works==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Icon works==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Saw this thread over in the python forum : http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=11827&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;and tried some of those hints. Guess what, now the Treeline icon launches Treeline, nifty uh ? More good news, it launches the large-text version &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I don't pretend to understand any of it, but it seems to boil down to this :&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;- either you take the treelinelauncher script that's called by the icon (Exec= in treeline.desktop) and you make it much more complicated using the stuff from the thread above (env, PYTHONPATH, output redirection, not sure which does it...)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;- either you take it out of the loop entirely and just stick the path to treeline.py as the icon action, seems to work just as well :-)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Okay, back to that darned ipk...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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			<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2005 18:14:46 GMT</pubDate>			<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>			<comments>http://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=Talk:Playing_with_Python</comments>		</item>
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			<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Mo' Fun&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Yay, [http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?act=Attach&amp;amp;type=post&amp;amp;id=448 an OK button].&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Yay, [http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?act=Attach&amp;amp;type=post&amp;amp;id=448 an OK button].&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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			<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2005 18:13:55 GMT</pubDate>			<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>			<comments>http://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=Talk:Playing_with_Python</comments>		</item>
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