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Model Specific Forums => Sharp Zaurus => Zaurus - pdaXrom => Topic started by: scoutme on May 30, 2005, 03:39:12 pm
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Since Gnome is generally faster than KDE, and KDE runs fine even if a bit slowly on our Zaurus, what about porting gnome_base?
also XFCE4 would be good, maybe better, if we get the last version
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Since Gnome is generally faster than KDE, and KDE runs fine even if a bit slowly on our Zaurus, what about porting gnome_base?
also XFCE4 would be good, maybe better, if we get the last version
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just toadd to the list, the latest enlightenment looks pretty cool.
isn't the gpe stuff gnome based?
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xfce4 is up in the pdaxrom-unstable feed.
I run it for a couple of weeks now. It´s so far
the coolest gui i´ve seen
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isn't the gpe stuff gnome based?
gpe uses gtk, the widgets used by gnome. gpe might also share some standards with gnome but it is not gnome based.
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I was guessing based on stuff i saw in OZ--- gnome-vfs was needed to get the "gpe-filemanager' going.
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sorry, but i'm messing up something!
i use
http://212.10.30.205/rc10/Zaurus-7x0-860/feed/ (http://212.10.30.205/rc10/Zaurus-7x0-860/feed/)
as my main feed and
http://www.pdaxrom.org/unstable/ (http://www.pdaxrom.org/unstable/)
(and http://beer.geek.nz/software/zaurus/feed/unstable/) (http://beer.geek.nz/software/zaurus/feed/unstable/))
as unstables.
where is the xfce ipk? i can't find it!
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@alexjlee here:
http://www.pdaxrom.org/oldunstable/ (http://www.pdaxrom.org/oldunstable/)
Not that these packagea were built before softfloat...some packages might not work but xfce seems to run
@adf:
ah perhaps gpe is using some gnome libraries.
Note that some gnome packages are in the pdaxrom feed also, mainly there to be able to run gnumeric (but not the whole gnome distribution)
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I'd like a recent version of XFCE4, compiled and stripped with the last sdk.
An old binary doesn't sound good to me...
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thought maybe i'd mention that the default wm is quite nice. Looks great, is speedy and useable.
Can the panel be (auto)hidden?
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wow. i was blown away by xfce4.
it's so fast, clean and smooth!
the only downside is that the package is old. xffm seems to die horribly with an illegal instruction. I think with a bit of a polish this will replace my default/rox combination for good.
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wow. i was blown away by xfce4.
it's so fast, clean and smooth!
the only downside is that the package is old. xffm seems to die horribly with an illegal instruction. I think with a bit of a polish this will replace my default/rox combination for good.
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I'm compiling xfce4 version 4.2.2 (dated may 18 2005) on RC10.
(with softfloat)
Desktop - panel - libs - settings are compiled and running
Still working on the rest.
I'll post a screen shot later.
Chero
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you _are_ the man!
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good one!
waiting...
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Hi,
Here's a screenshot (if someone could convert it to jpg and put it back, i would be very happy - my gimp installation is broken, so i can't do it myself right now, sorry)
So, how far are we :
- the panel segfaulted - now solved
- i had the desktop running with a full popup menu - segfaults now
- right click = "fn" - click
- runs faster than the old xfce 4.0.4
What i want to do :
- get the desktop working again
- add "iconbox"
- .ipk it and put it on unstable feed
Chero
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Looks nice. Here is the jpg... [ You are not allowed to view attachments ]
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Looks nice. Here is the jpg... [ You are not allowed to view attachments ]
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Thanks,
Chero
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maybe xfce4 team could help you/us in finding out the desktop segfaulting reason
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edit.
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maybe xfce4 team could help you/us in finding out the desktop segfaulting reason
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I think I know why it segfaults
I'll have a closer look this evening.
Keep you updated.
edit :
- xfdesktop works again
- on-screen menu also working
- new screen-shot attached (sorry, gimp still not working on my Z, so would somebody be so kind to convert it to jpg, please)
Chero
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just mentioning the above post has been edited
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jpg attached. Looks pretty good!
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jpg attached. Looks pretty good!
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thanks !
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looks nice!
Is it stable enough?
Maybe time to pkg?
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looks nice!
Is it stable enough?
Maybe time to pkg?
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It seems pretty stable.
I would like to add a battery monitor before packaging it.
Chero.
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I tried an older version a while ago, and if I remember correctly, the matchbox battery applet worked fine in XFCE.
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The xfce4 ipk is "ready".
Tried to upload it here, but no go.
I will upload it to unstable feed tomorrow (I left my notes at work, and i can't remember my password.
To start : startxfce4 - double-click the default session or create a new one.
I created a startxfce4 and xinitrc.xfce4 starting from the ones provided in pdaX.
There are probably some lines in there that shouldn't, but it works just fine.
I hope everything is in the ipk, I created it manually, so I'm not sure.
After resume, it takes a few seconds for the system to be active again. If there are a lot of apps running, it takes a bit longer.
The notes plugin is included, the battery-plugin not yet.
right click = "fn" click (not "shift" as in the older ipk)
right clicking on the desktop gives you the full matchbox menu.
BTW : anyone that can run the Gimp on rc10 for saving jpg's ?
Just test.
Chero
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I think the upload to the unstable feed is broken.....try to pm ScottYelich who mirrors a bunch of zaurus stuff.....
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I think the upload to the unstable feed is broken.....try to pm ScottYelich who mirrors a bunch of zaurus stuff.....
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PM sent to Laze and ScottYellich
Let's wait
Chero
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PM sent to Laze and ScottYellich
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Let us know when you've got it uploaded (and where too)
I'm looking forward to testing it.
Cheers,
Jerry
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can't wait!
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Hi,
I split the ipk into three parts.
They have to be installed all three before you can run anything !
Edit : It's two parts now
Here's part 1.
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part 2
edit : of two.
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part 3 (edit : doesn't exist any longer)
I received a PM from Laze, confirming that the upload feature of the unstable feed is broken.
So I split up the package in three (edit : two) seperate ipk's for those who can't wait.
They have to be installed all three (edit : both) before trying to run anything.
When you installed all three (edit : both), just "startxfce4" instead of "startx"
I hope it works.
Have fun,
Chero.
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Thanks a lot!
I'm installing right now...
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just let us know if you get it running
Thanks for trying,
Chero
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Ok, I've installed the three ipks on my sd card (its formatted with ext3):
I've added /mnt/card/data/usr/local/bin to the path (so that startxfce is found)
Now when I type startxfce I get the X11 backgraiunf with the "x" cursor then it drops back to the shell with:
xfce4-session: error while loading shared libraries: libxfsm-4.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directoryNow the same happens when I enter startx (kde still works)...
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just let us know if you get it running
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Chero:
Thanks for packing this up, but it doesn't quite install properly. The ipks create 3 directories: data, data2 and data3 and the files go into those directories in a mirrored file structure: /usr/lib.. etc. I was going to manually move the files but the thought of keeping track of and creating all of those sym links from my SD card to RAM stopped me
Cheers,
Jerry
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I've checked it out.
Sorry if things got messed up, but something went wrong when splitting the package into three parts. I created 3 .tar.gz archives and moved files around untill the sizes were acceptable. I forgot to tar them again, leaving the data-data2-data3 structure out.
I've changed this and uploaded some new .ipk's (changed the ones in the original posts above).
I hope this solves the problem.
Sorry,
Chero.
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've changed this and uploaded some new .ipk's (changed the ones in the original posts above).
Well, I have downloaded them today, and the problem seems to be still the same. Those 3 data directories are created, and all the stuff is put in there.
It is not difficult to move it all to /, and running ldconfig enabled me to startx with the xfc4 .xinitrc.
Other errors:
No menu. (I have removed certain apps from the rom, so this could be the problem)
Only an aterm is started.
If you think about repackaging xfce4, please make packages that have a structure like this:
- Required libraries (in this case libxml2)
- Main libraries and files
- Additional Themes and languages
- Development files (includes, i hate them in a package not declared as devel)
This way everyone gets what he/she wants, and the downloads are still small, i hope.
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perhaps you can still upload to the ZUG?
http://www.zaurususergroup.org/UpDownload.phtml (http://www.zaurususergroup.org/UpDownload.phtml)
I don't know if elsix.org hosts the ipk
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Well, I have downloaded them today, and the problem seems to be still the same. Those 3 data directories are created, and all the stuff is put in there.
It is not difficult to move it all to /, and running ldconfig enabled me to startx with the xfc4 .xinitrc.
Other errors:
No menu. (I have removed certain apps from the rom, so this could be the problem)
Only an aterm is started.
If you think about repackaging xfce4, please make packages that have a structure like this:
- Required libraries (in this case libxml2)
- Main libraries and files
- Additional Themes and languages
- Development files (includes, i hate them in a package not declared as devel)
This way everyone gets what he/she wants, and the downloads are still small, i hope.
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I'll keep it in mind.
It is still in testing stadium and I was going to upload to "unstable" feed.
Perhaps I just wanted to upload as fast as i could and forgot to check a few things because it runs really good on my Z.
perhaps you can still upload to the ZUG?
[a href=\"http://www.zaurususergroup.org/UpDownload.phtml]http://www.zaurususergroup.org/UpDownload.phtml[/url]
I don't know if elsix.org hosts the ipk
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I'll try this after I fixed some other problems.
Thanks for trying,
Chero.
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from the aterm you find open simply launch the xfce4-menuconfig
mark as hidden the "desktop" line, and the menù will appear as expected
I also renamed the battery applet .so file (in the terminal it gives an error). Actually I didn't understand if xfce4 works thanks to the desktop line hidden or to the battery applet renamed
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I named back the battery applet file - no issue.
The menu stuff is enough.
Matchbox applets work properly in the task bar.
Rotation works
It`s absolutely amazing
Light and user-friendly
Less bugs then matchbox !!!
Also, you can set the bottom margin so that default maximizing matches on-screen kbd height
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I named back the battery applet file - no issue.
The menu stuff is enough.
Matchbox applets work properly in the task bar.
Rotation works
It`s absolutely amazing
Light and user-friendly
Less bugs then matchbox !!!
Also, you can set the bottom margin so that default maximizing matches on-screen kbd height
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Glad to see somebody loves it !!
I think the "xfce4-menuconfig" in your previous post has to be "xfce4-menueditor" (just for those who also want to give it a try).
BTW : My "desktop menu" isn't marked as "hidden", maybe you've just got run it once to make the menu active.
Does the panel behave correctly ?
Was the notes plugin available right away ?
Can you create different sessions ?
BTW : the ipk's have been updated again.
- split up into two parts instead of three
- the data-dirs shouldn't be installed any longer (I've checked this time through "mc")
- left out some stuff (backdrops, french docs, include, ...)
Any comments are welcome,
I know it's not perfect yet, but it's (already) to beautiful to keep to myself alone.
...It`s absolutely amazing
Light and user-friendly
....
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You forgot to mention : beautiful.
Chero.
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everything function properly, included the panel and the sticknotes.
I think you are right, the problem was given, accoring to me, to the session/status you left included in the ipk. After first complete launch everything is good, especially if you save the session.
Something that could be usefull: a kbd customization that matches that you have in matchbox (brightness, menu-launch key, etc).
Also we should find a way - a good and clean way - to include mb-applet in startup sequence. Maybe the simplest way is putting a few lines into start script, but I' m going to solve it with session and othet settings stuff.
I cannot find the right words to let you all undestand the step towards this wm can be for pdaxrom and zaurus platform...
Chero, another usefull note: what about stripping the executables? Imagine Xfce4 even lighter...
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Chero, another usefull note: what about stripping the executables? Imagine Xfce4 even lighter...
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I think I stripped everything (libs and executables) - I'll double check this.
Before stripping, the libs and executables were about 29Mb more than they are now.
I could leave out all the locales and some themes to make it lighter.
Or put these in seperate packages, when I find the time.
I'd really like the panel-battery-plugin, so my first efforts go into this and it looks like I won't have a lot of time to do so in the first week. (right now I should be sleeping instead of writing this, but I slept a lot when I was a baby, so ...)
About the matchbox-applets : I think that, using the session manager, there is no other way than the one you're trying. I think you can only load them after loading the taskbar, which is loaded or not-loaded according to the chosen session. (correct me if i'm wrong here)
Chero
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This looks very good, but I can't quite make it work.
I have copied all the contents of /data - /data3 to /usr etc and run ldconfig.
I cannot get the menu to appear, even after following the hide options described above.
Also, when I run an app other than aterm I get an error "Failed to excecute child process XXX (no such file or directory).
Any ideas?
Thanks Andrew
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chero: me dumb... I should have imagined everything was already stripped... so less space than debian packages
andrew: my hint - after you got the hide stuff, do not close xfce4 and try to launch thr panel within the aterm, don't forget the & after the executable, to mantain usable (and ctrlDable) the terminal. If you get it up and running, ctrl+D the aterm and close xfce4 through the panel/menu button. Check the save session option before exiting. Now retry startxfce4 to see if panel loads correctly.
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This is great news... I've been wanting to use XFCE4 on the Z for quite some time.
I use it in my VNC sessions since it's nice and light-weight, yet it is still featureful.
mirrored to: http://zaurus.spy.org/feeds/cacko/pdaXrom/1.1.0/rc10/chero/ (http://zaurus.spy.org/feeds/cacko/pdaXrom/1.1.0/rc10/chero/)
Scott
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Where i can download latest xfce for my Z?
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@ Scott :
Thanks for mirroring.
The files will likely change within a day or ten, to make installing easier.
@ Andrew :
You obviously didn't install the latest ipk-s. The data-dirs should be finally out of the ipk-s.
After installing (and putting all the stuff in the right place if you use older ipk-s) you should have a couple of extra icons on the "other"-tab of matchbox (at least, I have them). You can run the menu-config, session-config, ... using these icons.
If you don't have the icons, try leaving matchbox and then "startx" again.
Chero.
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"You obviously didn't install the latest ipk-s"
You're right - I downloaded the second set of three, not the new set of two. I missed the edit of the original post on page 3. My fault. Sorry.
So now I have downloaded the new set of 2 ipkgs and they installed OK.
When I run startxfce4 and select the Default session I get just an aterm with no panels etc. I can run xfce4-menueditor, but I can't exit and save a session and get any panels to appear.
@Scoutme: Not sure quite what you meant by "launch the panel within the aterm". What panel? What is the command line to launch a panel?
Sorry for needing help with what should be Very Easy Stuff.
Thanks
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"You obviously didn't install the latest ipk-s"
You're right - I downloaded the second set of three, not the new set of two. I missed the edit of the original post on page 3. My fault. Sorry.
So now I have downloaded the new set of 2 ipkgs and they installed OK.
When I run startxfce4 and select the Default session I get just an aterm with no panels etc. I can run xfce4-menueditor, but I can't exit and save a session and get any panels to appear.
@Scoutme: Not sure quite what you meant by "launch the panel within the aterm". What panel? What is the command line to launch a panel?
Sorry for needing help with what should be Very Easy Stuff.
Thanks
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to launch the panel :
from the aterm
# xfce4-panel &
then the panel should appear.
on the panel you have a shutdown button.
to launch a taskbar :
from the aterm
# xftaskbar4 &
good luck,
Chero.
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Ok, tried that.
I now get this error when I try to run xfce4-panel.
** (xfce4-panel:998): WARNING **: module /usr/local/lib/xfce4/panel-plugins/libbattmon.so cannot be opened: GModule initialization check failed: Incompatible plugin version
(xfce4-panel:998): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to add a widget with type GtkImage to a GtkEventBox, but as a GtkBin subclass a GtkEventBox can only contain one widget at a time; it already contains a widget of type GtkImage
(xfce4-panel:998): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to add a widget with type GtkImage to a GtkEventBox, but as a GtkBin subclass a GtkEventBox can only contain one widget at a time; it already contains a widget of type GtkImage
The panel pops up and disappears.
Any ideas?
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Just let me know where files are -- and as long as they're not illegal -- I'll be happy to host them.
Scott
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Ok, tried that.
I now get this error when I try to run xfce4-panel.
** (xfce4-panel:998): WARNING **: module /usr/local/lib/xfce4/panel-plugins/libbattmon.so cannot be opened: GModule initialization check failed: Incompatible plugin version
(xfce4-panel:998): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to add a widget with type GtkImage to a GtkEventBox, but as a GtkBin subclass a GtkEventBox can only contain one widget at a time; it already contains a widget of type GtkImage
(xfce4-panel:998): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to add a widget with type GtkImage to a GtkEventBox, but as a GtkBin subclass a GtkEventBox can only contain one widget at a time; it already contains a widget of type GtkImage
The panel pops up and disappears.
Any ideas?
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The error is normal in the current status of this version (I was working on the battery plugin, but realised it will take some time to finish it, so I created this ipk-s of xfce4 without finishing the battery plugin)
So, I don't know why the panel disappears.
Have you tried creating a new session ?
(When I create a new session, I get the desktop, the panel and the taskbar.)
You can also check if the panel isn't "autohide".
from an aterm:
# xfce-setting-show
then click on the panel settings icon.
Chero
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I am struggling to get this to work. Could somebody who has this working post their .config files please?
Thanks
Andrew
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I am struggling to get this to work. Could somebody who has this working post their .config files please?
Thanks
Andrew
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Have you tried removing .cache and .config from your home-dir
Maybe the ones I included are marked as a running session, preventing you to start another session.
Chero.
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Hey hey - we're there.
I took Chero's advice & deleted the .cache and .config that were created in the ipkgs and then I was able to create a new session.
Then I deleted them again and copied the .config that Chero posted and it worked straight away.
So, after installing, delete .cache from your home directory.
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Now we know it actually works, I have a few questions :
What should we add, what don't we need :
- xfcalendar
- xfce4 appfinder
- xfce4 icon theme
- xfce4 mixer
- xfce4 systray
- xfce4 toys
- xfce4-trigger (have to check, I think it's already in it)
- xffm
- xfprint
- xwm4 themes
- xfce4-notes-plugin (already compiled)
- xfce4-iconbox (already compiled)
- xfce4-battery-plugin (working on it)
Which of the plugins on this page (http://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=910) are interesting enough to add ?
Any other suggestions ?
(I know it has to be split up in seperate ipkgs, but let's first get all usefull things working)
Chero.
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>Which of the plugins on are interesting enough to add ?
>- xffm
xffm! please!
I'm quite surprised by the size of the compiled ipkg's.
This install took 10meg. The previous rc5 build took around 2, and included xffm
and a few other goodies. can it be that xfce grew that much?
sorry to put a bit of a downer on the party, but maybe you're missing something..
otherwise, WOW! excellent work!
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I'm looking forward to trying xfce4 on my 6k.
I don't much mind the size.... if it is complete I'll move the default stuff to sd to put xfce on internal flash (and kde on sd too) xffm is pretty much a "must have" though.
and.. hell.... post every plugin you feel like compiling. Somebody will make use of 'em.
Possibly me
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>Which of the plugins on are interesting enough to add ?
>- xffm
xffm! please!
I'm quite surprised by the size of the compiled ipkg's.
This install took 10meg. The previous rc5 build took around 2, and included xffm
and a few other goodies. can it be that xfce grew that much?
sorry to put a bit of a downer on the party, but maybe you're missing something..
otherwise, WOW! excellent work!
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xffm is compiled.
I'm testing right now.
Will pkg it soon, if it doesn't crash ar freeze too much.
About the size : There's a lot of stuff that can be left out (icons, themes, ...), but it will stay bigger than the previous version, cause I enabled a few extra options.
I'll check if I can strip more than I did.
Chero.
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>A lot of stuff that can be left out (icons, themes, ...), but it will stay bigger than >the previous version,
one other thing i noted was:
i had 40 meg free
I installed part1 , part 2
I uninstalled part 2 (part 1 seemed to have gone awol)
I had 36 meg free.
somehow part1 or 4 meg is going awry.
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Chero:
Nice work, one minor problem I encountered. When I installed the second ipk to my SD (don't have a lot of extra space on a 750 ) it returned an error that it couldn't locate the package on the external media. Turns out it didn't symlink a bunch of the files in /mnt/card/usr/local to the internal ram. So when I first launched it, no panel, only blank task bar, no background etc. Once I symlinked the missing files it runs fine. Not sure why the install didn't work.
For extra plugins, how about the mount plugin?
Cheers,
Jerry
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@ jerrybme:
about the symlinks : i don't know why it doesn't make them. But, I didn't do too much work on the ipkgs as they have to change anyway. It was just a quickly-putting-together to make it possible for others to play with it already.
When we come to the final ipkgs, we'll look into this.
about the mount plugin : I'll do my best.
About xffm : please try this. (BTW : for those who don't read the whole thread: it needs xfce4_4.2.2)
Have fun,
Chero.
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>About xffm : please try this.
didn't work for me. I got
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xffm: error while loading shared libraries: libxffm_cpy.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory.
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>About xffm : please try this.
didn't work for me. I got
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xffm: error while loading shared libraries: libxffm_cpy.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory.
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file added, ipkg updated.
Maybe now it's all in there.
Chero.
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file added, ipkg updated.
Maybe now it's all in there.
Chero.
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ok, now it runs (lots of 'icon factory' warnings)
The lack of many of the icons makes it difficult to see what is going on.
_but_
when you open the 'root' tree (or fstab or many operations) it core dumps.
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file added, ipkg updated.
Maybe now it's all in there.
Chero.
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ok, now it runs (lots of 'icon factory' warnings)
The lack of many of the icons makes it difficult to see what is going on.
_but_
when you open the 'root' tree (or fstab or many operations) it core dumps.
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sounds like I have to create the pkg again,
this time I'll take some more time for it.
(it runs like it should on my Z)
It will not be today though because I'm out the rest of the day.
Chero.
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Hello,
xffm ipk has been updated.
I created it "by the book" (# make DESTDIR=/my/dir install) this time, so everything should be in it.
Everything has been stripped, I left the docs out, the locales in.
attached file : panel mount plugin.
Chero.
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ok , it all works now! congrats!
xffm is a bit on the slow side compared to rox. I had great hopes, but i can't delete rox yet!
Hello,
xffm ipk has been updated.
I created it "by the book" (# make DESTDIR=/my/dir install) this time, so everything should be in it.
Everything has been stripped, I left the docs out, the locales in.
attached file : panel mount plugin.
Chero.
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xffm is a bit on the slow side compared to rox. I had great hopes, but i can't delete rox yet!
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I thought speed of xffm was quite good (compared to the older ipk of xfce4 in oldunstable).
I'm running a 64Mb swap-file. Maybe this speeds up things a bit.
But, take a look on www.xfce.org, they recommend rox.
Chero.
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Hi,
Just a few screenshots and the taskbar plugin.
Now I've got the panel and the taskbar in one, saving space on the screen.
Edit:
When the taskbar isn't running, it resumes a lot faster. So we win twice : more space on the screen and faster resumes.
Chero.
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edit: Uh... never mind
Really nice work there! Thank you for taking the time to do this! And yeah perhaps better to use Rox filer and keep the package smaller by not including xffm.
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yes, actually rox-filer is the best choice for its lightness and small interface;
I'm actually using the task-applet in the panel and the matchbox applets into a restricted taskbar; the fact is that systray icons cannot be seen in the xfce4 panel.
It would be good to remove completely xfce4 taskbar without renouncing to systray features.
Is there any xfce4 panel systray applet? Can you package it Chero?
If not, maybe we should find some applets to replace matchbox applets: we need battery, card, cpu and similar info.
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nice stuff:
http://www.linuxsoft.cz/en/sw_detail.php?id_item=9082 (http://www.linuxsoft.cz/en/sw_detail.php?id_item=9082)
what about the netload and cpuload applet here?
http://developer.berlios.de/project/showfi...hp?group_id=910 (http://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=910)
maybe we should gradually make ALL these "goodies" available to pdaxrom users
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Hi,
I was going to compile those, but it will have to wait untill next week.
Don't know about a systray panel plugin.
BTW : that menu looks quite nice.
Chero.
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the more I read your posts, the more I'm happy to have started this thread
your work is making pdaxrom better
thank you; I'll wait happily those few days
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the more I read your posts, the more I'm happy to have started this thread
your work is making pdaxrom better
thank you; I'll wait happily those few days
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I couldn't resist ...
Chero.
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going to try em
I' m looking for a systray too
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Hello,
"Diskperf" and "systemload" seem nice to me, so they'll be next.
"taskmanager" is something i'd really like to have, but the .tar.gz doesn't seem to be complete. I'll look into this.
If someone creates (or already has created) a nice menu for the panel-menu-plugin, don't hesitate to post your menu files.
Chero.
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here's the systemload plugin.
(edit : ) and the showdesktop plugin.
(edit 2 : ) and the wavelan plugin.
The diskperf-plugin makes the panel segfault.
The systemload doesn't seem to give me correct cpu-values. Memory and swap seem to change as expected.
Just test.
Chero.
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has anyone figured out how to download from this place with wget and not
get nasty-a$$ filenames like: index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=666
???
I just ran a program called "mkPackages" on a dir where I had a bunch of these
xfce4 packages, and it just erased 80% of the files saying something or another
is newer... now I have to download these files again and it's a royal PITA :-<
Chero -- any chance you could put all the files into a single tarfile so I could
grab'm all at once and not have to go through this site's nasty download?
Scott
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has anyone figured out how to download from this place with wget and not
get nasty-a$$ filenames like: index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=666
???
I just ran a program called "mkPackages" on a dir where I had a bunch of these
xfce4 packages, and it just erased 80% of the files saying something or another
is newer... now I have to download these files again and it's a royal PITA :-<
Chero -- any chance you could put all the files into a single tarfile so I could
grab'm all at once and not have to go through this site's nasty download?
Scott
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Thanks for mirroring.
(the base system is not in this tarfile, it's would get too big to post)
If you PM your email-address, I could mail this.
Chero.
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going to try em
I' m looking for a systray too
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You can stop looking now.
Chero
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to chero
could xou please upload the latest available ipk's to
http://zaurus.spy.org/feeds/cacko/pdaXrom/1.1.0/rc10/chero/ (http://zaurus.spy.org/feeds/cacko/pdaXrom/1.1.0/rc10/chero/)
i can see only wavelan-plugin and xffm there :-(
or coud you please provide another download link
thanks in advance
best regards
cmpayc
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hmm, the post is only 6 pages long, why not show all of them?
EDIT: Thanks a lot to Chero
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to chero
could xou please upload the latest available ipk's to
http://zaurus.spy.org/feeds/cacko/pdaXrom/1.1.0/rc10/chero/ (http://zaurus.spy.org/feeds/cacko/pdaXrom/1.1.0/rc10/chero/)
i can see only wavelan-plugin and xffm there :-(
or coud you please provide another download link
thanks in advance
best regards
cmpayc
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All ipkgs are in this thread.
ScottYelich is being very kind and is hosting the files on the url you asked, but he has had a little problem (see a few post above this one)
So, if you want them now, you'll have to look in this thread (all files are in their latest version)
Chero.
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Chero --
Thanks.
Ok, I ran mkPackages and it didn't chomp the files.
I got the systray and I ran another script -- ipkg-make-index.sh
and it does a better job on the Packages file.
Thanks for the single file and patience.
Scott
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Hi, Chero,
I am using SL-C1000, I've installed the package as you say. Everything runs fine except the screen can't change to horizontal.
Can you teach me ?
Because i can't change anything in Display Preference.
Attached a pic for your reference.
regds,
Ronald
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have you tried "rotate" ?
It's in the menu ("fn" click on the desktop or click on the mouse in the panel), it's located in "other".
Chero
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Yes, I had try, but the screen just up-side down
only these 2 modes i can change.
have you tried "rotate" ?
It's in the menu ("fn" click on the desktop or click on the mouse in the panel), it's located in "other".
Chero
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Yes, I had try, but the screen just up-side down
only these 2 modes i can change.
have you tried "rotate" ?
It's in the menu ("fn" click on the desktop or click on the mouse in the panel), it's located in "other".
Chero
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maybe xrandr can help you :
In an aterm :
# xrandr --help (gives you the help)
I suppose you need :
# xrandr -o 0 (this makes it landscape for me)
If 0 doesn't work, try 1, 2 and 3
When you get it right, try leaving xfce4 with a save of the session. Does it occur again like it was, or is it corrected ?
Anyone else with a C1000 ?
Hope this does the trick,
Chero.
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have you tried "rotate" ?
It's in the menu ("fn" click on the desktop or click on the mouse in the panel), it's located in "other".
Chero
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fn-click on desktop doesn't working for me, i have to tap and hold on the desktop to display the desktop-menu.
is it a proper behaviour?
is it customizable?
is there shortkeys to hide/display the panel?
thanks in advance for your answers
best regards
cmpayc
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I don't know about customizing mouse behaviour, i suppose you can customize it.
Hiding the panel : use autohide in the properties of the panel.
Chero
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i found out that right click=shift+tab, not fn+tab
is this definition in code or in a config-file?
best regards
cmpayc
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i installed the panel-menu plagin.
trying to add new item (Xfce4 Panel Menu) to xfce-panel - panel disppears, can't test
best regards
cmpayc
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re-launch xfce4-panel without restarting.
Also, try to remove canonical menu before trying to put the new panel
anyway I found a bit hard to configure it. Any better experience?
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trying to install the systemtray-plugin, i've got the message "Error: Could not create panel item "Systemtray""
any idea ?
best regards
cmpayc
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I installed the systray applet and it's perfect with gtk-ish notification, like the gaim one.
But matchbox-applets show completely white boxes
if you click on'em they actually do the job, but a battery applet not-showing-battery life isn't that usefull....
the panel doesn't throw any error on mb-applet loading, and the same applets show perfectly in the taskbar-systray (the second bar we are trying to remove).
We should find the differences between the two different systray implementation.
Maybe a different library? Anyone knows mb-applet details? How they differ from gtk notifications?
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goodnight
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thank you Chero... your screenshot made me see the mb applets correctly showing. This made me test some more time and I could see thet all the applets icons become visible if you modify panel dimension (even if you finally put it back to your original size: it's just a matter of refreshing'em).
I love much more my zaurus now that I have both laptop feeling and performance (as to interface )
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... anyway I found a bit hard to configure it. Any better experience?
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Did you configure the panel-menu ?
Do you have the "system"-menu in it or did you have to do it all manually ?
Could you please comment on this ?
@cmpayc:
I think the mouse behaviour depends on xmodmap
I remember I changed my startxfce4 and initrc files to load the default one for C860.
Before I did this, I needed shift to produce right click.
Maybe you need another one ?
BTW : can you already add plugins ?
Chero.
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IIRC the behaviour of the mouse (delay or keys, which keys) is defined in the .xinitrc
This can be changed via the input helper application, but I don't think it has been changed for the C-1000. (as it is a python application it is easy to open the script and see what's going on).
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@chero
thanks for your advice
your xfce4-panel looks very nice
i still have probs to install panelmenu-plugin:
ipk was installed without any probs
i started xfce4 from a ssh-session to see the messages
trying to add a new item (Xfce4 Panel Menu) to the panel ->
in the ssh-session i can see the following message:
** (xfce4-panel:3180): WARNING **: module /usr/local/lib/xfce4/panel-plugins/libbattmon.so cannot be opened: GModule initialization check failed: Incompatible plugin version
the panel disappears
the systray-plugin works now
btw, how can i turn off the taskbar (i can hide it but not turn off)
best regards
cmpayc
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@chero
....
in the ssh-session i can see the following message:
** (xfce4-panel:3180): WARNING **: module /usr/local/lib/xfce4/panel-plugins/libbattmon.so cannot be opened: GModule initialization check failed: Incompatible plugin version
....
btw, how can i turn off the taskbar (i can hide it but not turn off)
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1.
The error message is "normal", I have this too, but it doesn't make my panel disappear.
(it's because I tried adding the battery plugin of an older version, which doesn't work as you already noticed). You could get rid of the message by removing /usr/local/lib/xfce4/panel-plugins/libbattmon*.
2.
The taskbar : I simply killed it, then saved the session. Now it doesn't come back any longer.
# killall xftaskbar4
Chero
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IIRC the behaviour of the mouse (delay or keys, which keys) is defined in the .xinitrc
This can be changed via the input helper application, but I don't think it has been changed for the C-1000. (as it is a python application it is easy to open the script and see what's going on).
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thanks for pointing us in the right direction,
I didn't even know i had an input helper app on my Z (never needed it), shame on me.
Chero.
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hello,
i installed xfce4. it is really nice and fast. here some dummy questions:
1. how can i add icons to the desktop?
2. how can i rearrange the menu entries? i was not able to do modifications
for the main entries (office, games...)
3. is it possible to add the mb-battery-applet to the panel (instead having it
in the taskbar)?
malik
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@chero
....
in the ssh-session i can see the following message:
** (xfce4-panel:3180): WARNING **: module /usr/local/lib/xfce4/panel-plugins/libbattmon.so cannot be opened: GModule initialization check failed: Incompatible plugin version
....
btw, how can i turn off the taskbar (i can hide it but not turn off)
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1.
The error message is "normal", I have this too, but it doesn't make my panel disappear.
(it's because I tried adding the battery plugin of an older version, which doesn't work as you already noticed). You could get rid of the message by removing /usr/local/lib/xfce4/panel-plugins/libbattmon*.
2.
The taskbar : I simply killed it, then saved the session. Now it doesn't come back any longer.
# killall xftaskbar4
Chero
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thanks a lot, chero
on this way i turned the taskbar off
the prob with panelmenu-plugin is still existing, it seems to kill the xfce4-session process.
any advices are welcome
best regards
cmpayc
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hello,
i installed xfce4. it is really nice and fast. here some dummy questions:
1. how can i add icons to the desktop?
2. how can i rearrange the menu entries? i was not able to do modifications
for the main entries (office, games...)
3. is it possible to add the mb-battery-applet to the panel (instead having it
in the taskbar)?
malik
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1.
I don't think you can, but you can use rox-desktop if you want
2.
The menu is generated by the system, you can use locations by changing .desktop files (listed in "applications" ?). Caution : this also affects matchbox !!
3.
Install "systray-plugin"
Chero
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Ya, Thanks for your help first. I use the following command to solve the problem :
# xrandr -o right
But it seems that I can't save the setting after Quit Xfce.
So where can i add this command in the startup script ?
Thanks.
Yes, I had try, but the screen just up-side down
only these 2 modes i can change.Â
have you tried "rotate" ?
It's in the menu ("fn" click on the desktop or click on the mouse in the panel), it's located in "other".
Chero
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maybe xrandr can help you :
In an aterm :
# xrandr --help (gives you the help)
I suppose you need :
# xrandr -o 0 (this makes it landscape for me)
If 0 doesn't work, try 1, 2 and 3
When you get it right, try leaving xfce4 with a save of the session. Does it occur again like it was, or is it corrected ?
Anyone else with a C1000 ?
Hope this does the trick,
Chero.
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Ya, Thanks for your help first. I use the following command to solve the problem :
# xrandr -o right
But it seems that I can't save the setting after Quit Xfce.
So where can i add this command in the startup script ?
Thanks.
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I'd add the command in /home/root/xinitrc.xfce4
right before the line :
xfce4-session
Chero
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to have a desktop with icons and folders:
disable right-click-on-desktop-background features through settings
launch rox -p=NAMEYOUDLIKETOGIVETOYOURDESKTOPSETUP
right click the new desktop, select backdrop and change tha background
(you can remove xfce4 bg image, since it will be hidden by the rox one)
really gnomish
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these are a nice ones too.
Looks like I'll have to select the ones i like most, My screen is getting too small.
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@chero> 3. Install "systray-plugin"
i installed it and tried to add it to the panel, without success, i got a window
which says "Could not create panel item "Systemtray""...
you desktop looks very nice. .
malik
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Hi all,
maybe I ask now stupid questions - but I tried to install the 2 IPKs for the XFCE WM - and than:
-> I can start the WM (startxfce)
-> I got the the questions for the defauls session etc.
-> the WM comes up, curser/mouse and the panel is shown (panel comes up when
I touched with the cursur...but its empty...)
-> There are no menus or anything else shown......
What is my problem (in this case ;-)
Thanks for any help.
Best regards,
Mario
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Hi all,
maybe I ask now stupid questions - but I tried to install the 2 IPKs for the XFCE WM - and than:
-> I can start the WM (startxfce)
-> I got the the questions for the defauls session etc.
-> the WM comes up, curser/mouse and the panel is shown (panel comes up when
I touched with the cursur...but its empty...)
-> There are no menus or anything else shown......
What is my problem (in this case ;-)
Thanks for any help.
Best regards,
Mario
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I suppose your problem (in this case) is related to the .config and .cache located in /home/root.
The ones that are in the packages you installed are from a running session.
Delete .cache
Try again
If it still doesn't work:
Delete .config and download the new one (it's in the thread)
Try again
Good luck
Chero.
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@chero> 3. Install "systray-plugin"
i installed it and tried to add it to the panel, without success, i got a window
which says "Could not create panel item "Systemtray""...
you desktop looks very nice. .
malik
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cmpayc had the same problem, now it seems to be solved (go a post or ten back).
Maybe he can tell what he did ?
Chero
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@malik
to install the systray-plugin:
shift+tab->Settings->Taskbar Settings-> uncheck "Show system tray in taskbar"
add new item "Systemtray" to the taskbar
be happy
@chero
the prob with xfce4-panelmenu-plugin killing xfce4-panel-process is still existing
in the ssh-session i started startxfce4 from, i can see the following message
(xfce4-panel:2516): WARNING**: No mime file found for theme Rodent
which file does it mean?
any another idea how to trace this?
best regards
cmpayc
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@cmpayc: thanx, but i am not happy:-) i get only two grey vertical lines..
rebooting... grey lines...
malik
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@malik
you've got it
it's working well
just select the desktop-menu|accessuares|what-you-like
be happy
best regards
cmpayc
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@cmpayc: this was really suprising for me, thank you.
malik
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tried to use rox whithin xfce4
sorry, but i can not do right mouse click on the desktop
can not undestand it
the default definition for matchbox is RightClick=Fnb+Tap, MiddleClick=Shift+Tap
ok
if i start xfce4, i can only use Shift+Tab to get the DesktopMenu, Fn+Tap does not work
is it a prob of xfce4 or a prob of general definition?
the scripts xinitrc.xfce4 and .xinitrc in my home directory seem to load the same key-definitions from /etc/X11/kb/corgi.xmodmap
if i try to use rox in my xfce4-session, Shift+Tap doesn't work, Fn-Tap doesn't work either.
what is the definitiv way to check in a shell, what the mouse-botton mapping is actual?
thanks in advance for your answers
best regards
cmpayc
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I can give you an hint about input-config.
I use the two kanji keys between fn and - keys as middle and right click, and everything goes right.
Use the input config tool.
You'll find this option better
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I can give you an hint about input-config.
I use the two kanji keys between fn and - keys as middle and right click, and everything goes right.
Use the input config tool.
You'll find this option better
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@scoutme
thanks a lot, it works well.
however, i would like to know, why the default tab config doesn't work
another questions:
is there a possibility to assign the pinboards to the workspaces?
is there a possibility to open new (or hidden) pinboard on click on a pinboard icon (for implement a simple navigation)?
could you please post some screenshots of your environment?
thanks in advance
best regards
cmpayc
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chero,
something to note:
When removing the main package (pkg2, since pkg1 doesnt seem to want to uninstall) it took the pixbuf image lib with it, which destroys lots of the other apps.
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I can give you an hint about input-config.
I use the two kanji keys between fn and - keys as middle and right click, and everything goes right.
Use the input config tool.
You'll find this option better
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@scoutme
thanks a lot, it works well.
however, i would like to know, why the default tab config doesn't work
another questions:
is there a possibility to assign the pinboards to the workspaces?
is there a possibility to open new (or hidden) pinboard on click on a pinboard icon (for implement a simple navigation)?
could you please post some screenshots of your environment?
thanks in advance
best regards
cmpayc
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I don't think you can assign different pinboards to workspaces, since they are implemented as desktop app, that is they are deeper than desktop switching - maybe there's a rox option that I don't know, but I won't bet on it
You can create a script that kills current pinboard and loads another pinboard, and then put it in your pinboards. I used something similar on last RC, when I wanted to switch between matchbox-desktop and rox-pinboard: I put a script killinh rox-pin and launchin mb on the pinboard, and made a script in mb-panel to kill mb and launch rox-pinboard.
Actually, I don't think you 'd be able to use this strategy to change pinboard as fast as when you switch matchbox desktop menu. So think on it as a drastic change of workspace, something you'll use as a sort of user switching.
If I were you, I would use a single pinboard.
Maybe you should think on another desktop manager. I saw a xfce-desktop plugin: I'm going to give it a look, since using a xfce native desktop-manager could be nice, if it has good features (even if using ros pinboard is a good choice when you're using it also as filemanager - drag&drop assured )
What do you use to get screen shots?
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I gave a look at rox boards, and it seems you can launch more pinboards and switch between them by using the same command you launch them with: in brief, they say that when you type rox -p=FOO for the first time you launch the piboard, while if you type it with the pinboard instance already loaded you simply switch to it (if you were on another piboard).
Give it a try and let us know.
Good luck
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I was kinda hoping to see plain old xfce4 + plugins 'n' applets
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I tried different rox pinboards together, as suggested in my previous post... succeded - it seems that rox pinboards load faster when another pinboard is already loaded
enough fast to be perfectly usable as workspaces switching, especially if you renounce to backdrops (to make loading even faster).
I`ll contiNue using only one pinboard with a good background, anyway. Hope it will be a soLution for your needs
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I was kinda hoping to see plain old xfce4 + plugins 'n' applets
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What's still missing ?
(i know the battery-plugin is)
I hope I can make clean ipkgs of the base system this week, or at last next week.
For the moment I'm trying to find libexo 0.3.1, anyone knows where I could find it ? I'd like to get [a href=\"http://thunar.xfce.org/mockups/benjamin.muskalla/thunar/]thunar[/url] running.
Chero.
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I'm preparing a script to install more xfwm themes, like panther and the perfect smallscreen.
Not fatal but gorgeous
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Hi,
About thunar :
I contacted the developer.
We'll have to wait a bit, it already looks nice and runs on the Z, but it's not usable in the current state of developement.
It looks promising though.
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Chero
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Hi there!
Ok, got xfce4 installed, i created a new session and it worked.
_but_
a) i can only rightclick on the background to set new Workspaces,
i cant right-click on the panels. (btw, rightclick is still shift+tab)
i have installed: taskbarplugin, panelmenu, systrayplugin.
But none of them seems to function, the desktop didnt changed. I still
have the taskbar on the Top of the screen, the systrayplugin didnt started
i guess, and the same with the panelmenu.
Do i have to add the apps in the .xinitrc ?
If yes, what do i have to add there?
(i.e. panelmenu& taskbarplugin& systray_plugin& ?)
But so far it looks great and is pretty fast. Im using rox btw.
Greetz,
Nico
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Hi there!
Ok, got xfce4 installed, i created a new session and it worked.
_but_
a) i can only rightclick on the background to set new Workspaces,
i cant right-click on the panels. (btw, rightclick is still shift+tab)
i have installed: taskbarplugin, panelmenu, systrayplugin.
But none of them seems to function, the desktop didnt changed. I still
have the taskbar on the Top of the screen, the systrayplugin didnt started
i guess, and the same with the panelmenu.
Do i have to add the apps in the .xinitrc ?
If yes, what do i have to add there?
(i.e. panelmenu& taskbarplugin& systray_plugin& ?)
But so far it looks great and is pretty fast. Im using rox btw.
Greetz,
Nico
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a) change via pdaxrom input-config.py the middle and right button mapping to the two kanji keys
with the new acquired properly functioning right button click on the panel and select the applets you prefere for your panel
also...
in the terminal killall xftaskbar4 (or similar name), and when you quit remember to save the session, so that at next startxfce4 the taskbar won't be loaded
if you'd like to use your dekstop for icons, consider using rox-pinboard as specified a few posts ago - in that case you should kill also xfce4-desktop (that would be hidden, and useless) - remember to save the session when you change your mind on apps you want to be launched at start
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The workspace menu = middle click
To start after a new install :
remove .config and .cache (located in /home/root)
then startxfce4
Chero
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Hi,
ok, right and middle Mousebutton now functions
(thx to scoutme .
I now could add the "systray-plugin", but all i have is a blank
place in the taskbar. mmmhh, whatever this means, i try it tomorrow
with a reinstall of the plugins.
The Failure must be on my side
Btw, are there dependencies between the packages? I mean that
i have to install the "panelmenu-plugin" before i can install and run the "systray-plugin", for example?
Last Question: Which plugin i need for the clock to be displayed?
Good Night, and thx to Chero for the really great work
Nico
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Hi,
ok, right and middle Mousebutton now functions
(thx to scoutme .
I now could add the "systray-plugin", but all i have is a blank
place in the taskbar. mmmhh, whatever this means, i try it tomorrow
with a reinstall of the plugins.
The Failure must be on my side
Btw, are there dependencies between the packages? I mean that
i have to install the "panelmenu-plugin" before i can install and run the "systray-plugin", for example?
Last Question: Which plugin i need for the clock to be displayed?
Good Night, and thx to Chero for the really great work
Nico
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About dependencies :
All that is needed by other packages is in the two base packages.
About the systray plugin :
The blank space is normal !! You don't have to reinstall.
Now you've got the systray plugin running, start "battery monitor" (or another applet) located in the accesories-section of the menu. You should get an icon in that "blank space" on the panel. If it doesn't appear, try resizing the panel (panel properties)
About the clock :
It's in the base packages (and it should be running in the default panel). Right click the panel, "add new item", select "Xfce Clock"
Chero
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Hi again !
Ok, i try it and search for the batteryapplet (never started it manually before )
But i can say now that i dont have the "xfce clock" in the add items menu.
The clock wasnt started with the base panel as well.
Im out of time now, so the problems have to wait.
Thx for your help.
Greetz,
Nico
EDIT: i cant add new things in the systray, if i do a right-click on the
empty space i only have "systray" on the top of the popup-menu, but grayed
out so that i cant click it. (the other points are "properties", "Remove", "Add new item")
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@ Sam Hell :
Don't right click on the systray, but on the desktop
You should get the menu.
From the menu select "Battery Monitor", located in "accesories"
BTW:
Anyone interested in themes for the window-manager ?
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Chero
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the systray looks white when you launch pdaxrom applets because they are bigger than the panel; you have to change the panel size to middle, launch the applets you like, and then resize thge panel.
If you launch gaim, and enable the systray plugin, you'll have another test.
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ok, then we located the problem.
If i rightclick on the desktop, nothing happens.
If i do the middle-click on the desktop, the "Workspace-menu" appears.
Right-Click everywhere else functions, but not on the desktop... piuh...
what can this be?
And thats why i cant resize the panel, and cant use the systrayplugin
till now i would guess
(btw., i put left & rightclick on the kanji-buttons as scoutme said)
Greetz,
Nico
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edit:
nevermind
though... a). my 6 doesn't have kanji keys
. "python input-config.py" gives a no such file error
c). fn doesn't map right click.
I'm kinda lost about fixing this on a 6k. I assume it is because I don't know where input-config is?
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it's the Input Setup you normally find in pdaXrom. Maybe not included in 6000 setup?
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it's the Input Setup you normally find in pdaXrom. Maybe not included in 6000 setup?
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Ah. thought it was either an app to be called from a prompt or something xfce4 specific.
shift works ok on that keyboard/screen layout, though, I guess.
thanks.
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along those lines, though. in mbox on my 6k my "menu" external key opens a menu. in xfce it does nothing. this is handled byt the input settings in mbox, right? why doesn't it carry over? or is it that it loads an mbox app that doesn't exist in xfce? in which case the thing is how to get it to pop up a (desktop right click) menu in xcfe? or to get that app to open in xfce?
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ok, then we located the problem.
If i rightclick on the desktop, nothing happens.
If i do the middle-click on the desktop, the "Workspace-menu" appears.
Right-Click everywhere else functions, but not on the desktop... piuh...
what can this be?
And thats why i cant resize the panel, and cant use the systrayplugin
till now i would guess
(btw., i put left & rightclick on the kanji-buttons as scoutme said)
Greetz,
Nico
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Can you add "xfce menu" to the panel ?
This can give you the same menu as the desktop.
Chero
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um... yeah. It works, too. that's 2 no-brainers today. I'd say I need a vacation, but I'm already ON vacation.
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ah, no, im afraid not.
In the "add New Item"-menu i only have:
-Launcher
-Desktop Switcher
-Graphical Pager
-Seperator
-System Buttons
-Systemtray
I now try a clean reinst of the extra-packages,
just to have something to work with until you post
the next hint
Greetz,
Nico
P.S.: Btw, i just got an error-message that i cant install
the plugins on the SD-Card. Just an issue for the next updates,
i install them in root again.
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ah, no, im afraid not.
In the "add New Item"-menu i only have:
-Launcher
-Desktop Switcher
-Graphical Pager
-Seperator
-System Buttons
-Systemtray
I now try a clean reinst of the extra-packages,
just to have something to work with until you post
the next hint
Greetz,
Nico
P.S.: Btw, i just got an error-message that i cant install
the plugins on the SD-Card. Just an issue for the next updates,
i install them in root again.
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If those are the only panel-items you have, something went wrong installing the base packages.
I'm working on new (clean) ipkgs, just be patient for a day or two.
Chero
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Ok,
there is no need for hurry, my base applications
i need (xpdf, kapi/kopi, abiword) are functioning and
running a slight faster i think
And its far beautier then before
So its a win for me anyway
Greetz and thx a lot,
Nico
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I just did the test.
Flashed my Z, installed this ipk to SD, left matchbox, typed startxfce4 and ...
... it works just fine.
There are no docs or locales included in the ipk, just the stuff you need to run xfce4.
I created seperate ipkgs for dev and locales.
I did the same for xffm (seperate ipkgs for locales and program itself)
I also created a seperate ipkg for the notes-pugin and the icontheme.
will post those later (or try to get them in ScottYellich's feed).
Have fun,
Chero.
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I just did the test.
Flashed my Z, installed this ipk to SD, left matchbox, typed startxfce4 and ...
... it works just fine.
There are no docs or locales included in the ipk, just the stuff you need to run xfce4.
I created seperate ipkgs for dev and locales.
I did the same for xffm (seperate ipkgs for locales and program itself)
I also created a seperate ipkg for the notes-pugin and the icontheme.
will post those later (or try to get them in ScottYellich's feed).
Have fun,
Chero.
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so... is [the attached file] the one i should be downloading? i had toruble with the 2 part one, hopefully this will be better
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i have some questions, while i'm at it
first of all, for those with C1000, to rotate the screen, "xandr -o right &" will do the trick (but has to be repeated each time you restartx XFCE)
my right click somehow got mapped to Fn+Shift, and nothing seems to bring it back. the input setup program does nothing- no matter what it says, the keys stay the same (i wanted it to be the two Kanji keys). Ctrl is marked to Ctrl (why isn't the option for that in the config? it makes asalutely no sense!), and the left Kanji is marked to Alt. Right-shift seems to be middle button, but i'm not sure on that, yet.
any help would be appreciated
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What's still missing ?
(i know the battery-plugin is)
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What about appfinder?
PuthreGuy
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What's still missing ?
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What about appfinder?
PuthreGuy
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Go to [a href=\"http://users.telenet.be/zaurususer/Chero]My Webpage[/url], click on "my ipkgs" at the bottom of the page, it's over there.
Chero.
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What's still missing ?
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What about appfinder?
PuthreGuy
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Go to [a href=\"http://users.telenet.be/zaurususer/Chero]My Webpage[/url], click on "my ipkgs" at the bottom of the page, it's over there.
Chero.
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Thank you. It worked.
PuthreGuy
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Go to My Webpage, click on "my ipkgs" at the bottom of the page, it's over there.
I think you need to update startxfce4 and xinitrc.xfce4...
to xInitrc.xfce4 add support of Z C3100 (keyboard layouts):
add betwen 34-th and 35-th line:
  SL-C1000|SL-C3000|SL-C3100)
test -f /etc/X11/kb/akita.xmodmap && xmodmap /etc/X11/kb/akita.xmodmap
;; Â
to startxfce4;
replace:
defaultserverargs=" -nolisten tcp -kb"
with
defaultserverargs=" -nolisten tcp -kb -screen 480x640@270"
For me (on C3100) it detects portrait or landscape mode I'm using (at startup. Maybe becouse I've changed sysclientrc=... to sysclientrc=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc ).
and after:
test -f /etc/sysconfig/keyboard/kernel.map -a -f /usr/bin/loadkeys && /usr/bin/loadkeys /etc/sysconfig/keyboard/kernel.mapI've added:
modprobe mousedev >/dev/null 2>/dev/null(maybe unusefull, but I think on C1000 and C3100 with RC12 it'll add support of mouse on startup).
P.S. Maybe it's useful only with C3100 and maybe with C1000... But I think it can be helpful...
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I think you need to update startxfce4 and xinitrc.xfce4...
to xInitrc.xfce4 add support of Z C3100 (keyboard layouts):
Thanks for all these usefull tips, but I thought most people would find them here or in the xfce4-finetuning thread.
I was waiting for the launch of xfce4 4.4.0 to change my ipkgs.
Could you PM me your modified startxfce4 and xintrc - files? I could add them among the other files, just to put it all in the same place.
Chero.
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I'd still love to see gnome on my Z, are there any plans to make include instructions for this anywhere?
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You know, all you need for "gnome" is gnome-panel, nautalis, and gnome-volume manager. You start those inside xfce, and if is just like gnome, but faster
(I do it on my desktop)
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You know, all you need for "gnome" is gnome-panel, nautalis, and gnome-volume manager. You start those inside xfce, and if is just like gnome, but faster
(I do it on my desktop)
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Y'a know, if you dont need desktop icons, you can just start gnome-panel and it is xfce but with a nicer panel...
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Hi there, rather than starting up a new topic, since this one existed. I'm curious. Now that there is proof that KDE works and seems to work well. Any sign of gnome?