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OpenZaurus 3.5.4.1 alpha1 release is available for testing.
URL: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/3.5.4.1-test/alpha1/ (http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/3.5.4.1-test/alpha1/)
Spitz (sl-c3000) and Borzoi (sl-c3100) images are the same so we united them.
C7x0 machines have issues with sound which will be fixed before release.
test it and report bugs, fixes, ideas..
OE Bugtracker: http://bugs.treke.net/ (http://bugs.treke.net/)
GPE Bugtracker: http://handhelds.org/bugzilla/ (http://handhelds.org/bugzilla/)
OPIE Bugtracker: http://opie-bugs.oszine.de/ (http://opie-bugs.oszine.de/)
All feedback goes to openzaurus-devel@lists.sourceforge.net ONLY (or this thread - other threads can get ignored)
Kernel modules are provided in modules/ subdirs. You can use them as a feed:
src/gz c7x0 http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/3.5.4...a1/c7x0/modules (http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/3.5.4.1-test/alpha1/c7x0/modules)
src/gz akita http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/3.5.4...1/akita/modules (http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/3.5.4.1-test/alpha1/akita/modules)
src/gz spitz-borzoi http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/3.5.4...-borzoi/modules (http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/3.5.4.1-test/alpha1/spitz-borzoi/modules)
Ofcourse select proper one ;)
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Very impressive- it really is like having a brand new Zaurus!
I've just followed the 2.6 kernel install instructions for the C3000 and install went without a hitch. So far I can see:
2.6 kernel - MASSIVE speed benefits over 2.4 running QT or pdaxrom - Whoo!
Keyboard and touchscreen working fine
wifi working fine
all my files are still on my microdrive FAT partition
suspend seems to be working fine and every bit as fast as under cacko
!!!!
This is alpha1 too! I'm impressed with just that. I haven't been able to test sound or video playback yet.
The main problem now is that I'm totally new to GPE. I've read the FAQS and beginners guides over at
http://gpe.handhelds.org/documentation.phtml (http://gpe.handhelds.org/documentation.phtml)
but it hasn't helped me find a graphical file manager. I'm presuming the program i need is
gpe-filemanager ?
I've seen screenshots of GPE and they show a 'File Manager' app under the utilities menu but there is no such icon on my install and said binary isn't in my path either.Inserting CF cards mounts them OK, but I was hoping doing so would open this mystical missing graphical file manager- will i be able to get gpe-filemanager to auto-mount?
The other big showstopper at the moment for me was ipkg.conf not being pre-configured- thats what I'm playing with now, hoping to get xmms and mplayer on.
Looking good so far, anybody got cacko dual booting with this new OZ/GPE on a spitz? A HOWTO for that would be much appreciated!
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Flashing and after reboot, the error message i see :
"Kernel panic - not syncing : VFS : Unable to mount root gs on unknow-block(0,0)"
I named the files as follow:
zImage-2.6.15-spitz-20060320074320.bin => zImage.bin
updater.sh.spitz => updater.sh
opie-image-3.5.4.1-alpha1-spitz.rootfs.tar.gz => hdimage1.tgz
bootstrap-image-3.5.4.1-alpha1-spitz.rootfs.tar.gz=> initrd.bin
Test with bootstrap and without.
Did I miss something ?
Thank you for your help.
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Danbold: ipkg is already configured with feeds - you expected all stuff in /etc/ipkg.conf probably - look into /etc/ipkg/ too (we do not use crappy Sharp shell version of ipkg).
For filemanager install 'gpe-filemanager' with gpe-package (or cmdline ipkg). And we do not provide old xmms - you could try beepmp (if it works ok on 16bit screen) or gpe-nmf. We have mplayer-1.0pre7 in 3.5.4 feed.
flavien: read C3000 installation guide on OpenZaurus website - section about flashing with 2.6 kernel.
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flavien: read C3000 installation guide on OpenZaurus website - section about flashing with 2.6 kernel.
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I have previous installed yersterday, zImage-2.6.15-spitz-20060313075704.bin without problems ... i know flashing kernel 2.6
Thanks
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Think I've really borked ipkg now
I thought that maybe just the graphical package manager might be at fault so I opened a su terminal and did a
ipkg update
lots of errors about servers not being found, but wi-fi is working under the GPE web browser at least
so I tried
ipkg install gpe-filemanager
as su but just got some errors so I had a look under /etc/ipkg where I have about six .conf files and I noticed that the addresses in most of them had a double / next to the string 'base' so I removed the extra forward slashes and tried
ipkg update
again but still just errors. Is there a good way to set my ipkg conf files up properly- is there only the one 3.5.4 feed at the moment?
Why is gpe-filemanager not in a base install? Seems like an essential tool for the standard PDA user- surely its not too big?
As I said in an earlier post, /media/hdd, the microdrive USB FAT partition, is still intact but nothing popped up when I conected my Z to the PC. Does OZ or GPE not support this yet?
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danbold: check you network configuration then - I'm able to do 'ipkg update;ipkg install SOMETHING" out-of-box on my c760. And '//' in feeds urls does not need to be changed to '/' to get it working.
Why gpe-filemenager is not in image? We created gpe-image to fit in <32M partitions but right - for c3x00 machines it should have more apps. We can change it in 3.5.4.1 images.
3.5.4.1 will not have separate feeds - I will rather add it's stuff to 3.5.4 feeds as I plan to do not support c7x0/3.5.4 after 3.5.4.1 release (c7x0/3.5.4.1 will be supported instead).
About 'popping' - by default no USB drivers are loaded. Use 'Settings/USB settings' (or how it was called on GPE) to select which USB Client functionality you want to have enabled.
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Slight progress has been made with the package manager, but still I can't access most of the feeds- the one with the programs I need! I've tried looking on the OZ homepage and googling for "Openzaurus 3.5.4 feeds" but I've failed to find a description of what exactly all the ipkg feed config files should contain. I would've expected to find this info under the release notes maybe, but that only gives feeds for modules.
Is it true that the GPE package manager doesn't have a search feature yet?? Can't believe that! What is the ipkg equivalent of apt-cache search then?
I only deleted a few '/'s from the config files and thankfully 2 of the feeds (base and updates) seem to be working now but the others give me 404's. I did a
/sbin/ifup wlan0
to check i was connected before doing a ipkg update.
Unforunately, those two feeds don't contain the vital pakages I need to use OZ, which are
gpe-filemanger or rox
abiword
gnumeric
xmms or beep media player
mplayer or xine
Is it possible to import data from the cacko calendar into the GPE one?
Just for the cool factor, can I get amule 2.1.1 for OZ yet? Also, has anybody got zpsx running under OZ?
Thanks for your help in converting me over to OZ- I'm willing to help write some OZ FAQs and docs when I'm up and running.
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danbold: heh.. my fault - just looked into spitz 3.5.4.1-alpha1 image
You need to change x11 feed to point into 3.5.4 instead of 3.5.4.1-alpha1 to get it working. Will be fixed in next test release. Also 'machine-upgrades' is not available and it will be not available before 3.5.4.1 release - we provide only kernel modules as extra packages (details in README).
gpe-filemanager, mplayer, beepmp are in feed
gnumeric, abiword are building
rox is not in OE (I do not like the way it works so will not add it into OE - let some else fight with it)
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OK, the x11 feed is found now, but the gui package manager doesn't work. It just says
Failed to download (Packagename)- perhaps you need to run 'ipkg update'?
but running ipkg update doesn't make any difference.
Things work a bit better from the cli, but still non of the programs I have installed have worked because after downloading the packages it says ldconfig isn't available. Where can I get ldconfig?
How long do you think it will be until abiword and gnumeric get built and uploaded to the feeds? I've got a CUPS network shared printer upstairs- I'm presuming I'll be able to print to that over the network?
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I have been unable to get my SD card working with 3.5.4.1 alpha1 on C1000. First, there is no /dev/mmcblk0p1 directory.
I created it with:
mknod /dev/mmcblk0p1 b 60 1
Then, tried to mount with this result:
root@akita:~# mount -t vfat /dev/mmcblk0p1 /media/card
mount: Mounting /dev/mmcblk0p1 on /media/card failed: No such device or address
Any ideas?
OZ 3.5.4.1 alpha1 on Akita, Kingston 1gb SD
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Try ejecting the card and then re-inserting it.
See if the /dev entry is created automatically (as it should be).
Si
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Tried ejecting the card and re-inserting, and tried a reboot with the card inserted. No luck. Anything else I could try? This same card has always worked with previous versions of OZ (I'm using gpe btw).
In addition, I can't get ipkg to work. I manually added feeds to ipkg.conf and to the ipkg directory.
ipkg update results in:
root@akita:/etc/ipkg# ipkg update
ipkg_conf_init: Failed to create temporary directory `(null)': No such file or directory
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Try running ipkg update with -V (iirc) to make it more verbose.
Does dmesg/logread show that the card has been detected?
Si
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I'm getting a kernel panic after it reboots following the kernel flash. I have repartitioned my internal RAM using pdaXrom's updater to 64/64. I partitioned the internal driver per the instructions on OpenZaurus for the 3100, except I added a swap partiion as a 4th partition.
error I'm getting is:
Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(3,1)
First time this ocurred, I went back and formated partitions 1&2 as ext2 and partition 3 as dos, thinking that since I had repartitioned but hadn't formated them that was the problem. Instructions are silent on whether formatting is needed.
Suggestions?
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ipkg works after reboot (?? not sure why)
In dmesg, I see:
mmc0: unrecognised SCR structure version 1
could that be an indicator?
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I'm getting a kernel panic after it reboots following the kernel flash. I have repartitioned my internal RAM using pdaXrom's updater to 64/64. I partitioned the internal driver per the instructions on OpenZaurus for the 3100, except I added a swap partiion as a 4th partition.
error I'm getting is:
Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(3,1)
First time this ocurred, I went back and formated partitions 1&2 as ext2 and partition 3 as dos, thinking that since I had repartitioned but hadn't formated them that was the problem. Instructions are silent on whether formatting is needed.
Suggestions?
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Happy to see that i am not alone ...
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ipkg works after reboot (?? not sure why)
In dmesg, I see:
mmc0: unrecognised SCR structure version 1
could that be an indicator?
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I just rebooted my Z to see if ldconfig should just appear for me but, as I expected, that didn't work. I noticed that gnumeric is in the feeds now so I tried installing that but it just gave me the old 'ldconfig not found' error again.
This is easily fixed I'd hope- won't have to wait until next release right?
Just waiting for Abiword now, then I've got to figure out how to import the cacko calendar then its bye bye sharp rom!
Can we get audacity and amule (both need wxgtk libs) into OZ?
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I'm getting a kernel panic after it reboots following the kernel flash. I have repartitioned my internal RAM using pdaXrom's updater to 64/64. I partitioned the internal driver per the instructions on OpenZaurus for the 3100, except I added a swap partiion as a 4th partition.
error I'm getting is:
Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(3,1)
First time this ocurred, I went back and formated partitions 1&2 as ext2 and partition 3 as dos, thinking that since I had repartitioned but hadn't formated them that was the problem. Instructions are silent on whether formatting is needed.
Suggestions?
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Happy to see that i am not alone ...
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Doh, User error strikes again I had renamed the root file system to initrd.bin instead of hdimage1.tgz.
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I just rebooted my Z to see if ldconfig should just appear for me but, as I expected, that didn't work.
What user are you running as? root presumably? Did you do 'su -' to become root (to ensure that the sbin directories are included in the $PATH)?
I thought ldconfig was actually present in the images...
Si
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In dmesg, I see:
mmc0: unrecognised SCR structure version 1
could that be an indicator?
Could be, but I don't know what it means I'm afraid.
Might be worth bothering the folks on irc to see whether anyone has a working card, etc.
Si
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Doh, User error strikes again I had renamed the root file system to initrd.bin instead of hdimage1.tgz.
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I use this
[a href=\"http://naismith.sakura.ne.jp/rom/e060312/zImage-2.6.15-spitz-20060307080608.bin]http://naismith.sakura.ne.jp/rom/e060312/z...60307080608.bin[/url]
instead of
http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/3.5.4...60320074320.bin (http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/3.5.4.1-test/alpha1/spitz-borzoi/zImage-2.6.15-spitz-20060320074320.bin)
And it works
It is mine or 3.4.5.1. beta 1 is not working on spitz ??
I have read instructions on the website ... and i know how to install Linux on pda (Cacko, pdaXrom, Oz) ... and i think problems are in zImage
Thanks you.
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In dmesg, I see:
mmc0: unrecognised SCR structure version 1
could that be an indicator?
Yes - it means that your card is not supported yet by Linux 2.6 due to lack of SD documentation.
Flavien: 3.5.4.1-alpha1 (not BETA yet) was first booted on Spitz.
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ldconfig is under /sbin and sbin looks to me like its in su's path under /etc/profile. It works when I run it manually but it doesn't get found by ipkg.
Abiword and gnumeric run now- the problem with Abiword is that the Spell Check option is greyed out even though aspell seems to be installed. The good news is that Abiword loads much faster under OZ than when I last tried it under a pdaxrom beta.
Sound works on mplayer but theres no bvdd output by the look of things yet. Does anybody know anything about bvdd support under OZ mplayer? Is anything in the works? beep-media-player just didn't work at all for some unknown reason.
When when I choose to install firefox why does thunderbird get installed too? Thunderbird drained my last bit of space on the root drive- big program I don't use.
My dad really needs a working Zaurus back tonight so I'm going to have to re-install cacko because I couldn't get gpe-filemanger to install. Its trying to install a package called osso-gnome-vfs but it conflicts with files in gnome-vfs-dbus. I think the games or something else less important should be removed if space needs to be made to put gpe-filemanager in the standard GPE image. If theres one app I want its a good graphical filemanager with MIME support.
I can see that 2.6 based OZ is very nearly here for C3000 users and its looking very good already. I'll definately be trying the next release out too- thanks OZ/OE team!
EDIT: every time I open an excel file under gnumeric it comes up with the warning
'Unable to read MS property stream header'
but then the file opens fine. bit annoying though.
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ldconfig is under /sbin and sbin looks to me like its in su's path under /etc/profile. It works when I run it manually but it doesn't get found by ipkg.
Use 'Root shell' in GPE then to be logged as root directly or set proper PATH when 'su' to root.
Sound works on mplayer but theres no bvdd output by the look of things yet. Does anybody know anything about bvdd support under OZ mplayer? Is anything in the works?
bvdd was 2.4 only solution - no use under 2.6 kernel. There are patches which improve pxafb video possibilities and we will look at them later - now we are concentrated on getting everything worked correctly and accepted in mainline kernel.
beep-media-player just didn't work at all for some unknown reason.
hmm.. tried to run it from shell?
When when I choose to install firefox why does thunderbird get installed too? Thunderbird drained my last bit of space on the root drive- big program I don't use.
Hmm.. can you report is as a bug iin OE bugtracker? http://bugs.openembedded.org/ (http://bugs.openembedded.org/) - we need to clean this dependencies.
I couldn't get gpe-filemanger to install. Its trying to install a package called osso-gnome-vfs but it conflicts with files in gnome-vfs-dbus.
That one need to be resolved too ;(
I can see that 2.6 based OZ is very nearly here for C3000 users and its looking very good already. I'll definately be trying the next release out too- thanks OZ/OE team!
Thx and thx for feedback.
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beep-media-player just didn't work at all for some unknown reason.
hmm.. tried to run it from shell?
Yep. No error messages, nothing happens.
When when I choose to install firefox why does thunderbird get installed too? Thunderbird drained my last bit of space on the root drive- big program I don't use.
Hmm.. can you report is as a bug iin OE bugtracker?
I will
Thx and thx for feedback.
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Glad to help!
Thanks for your quick responses Hrw!
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bvdd was 2.4 only solution - no use under 2.6 kernel. There are patches which improve pxafb video possibilities and we will look at them later - now we are concentrated on getting everything worked correctly and accepted in mainline kernel.
Is there a lot of cxx00 kernel code that was left out of yesterdays 2.6.16 release? I can't wait to see these pxafb patches get integrated- smooth video playback seems like the only thing worth keeping cacko on for now.
Anyone wrote a howto dual-boot OZ with Cacko? Will the OZ updater script still work with a different partition setup?
Is there no way to turn my wifi card off when inserted into the Z without unplugging it? It would be great if you could turn it off from the wifi icon.
Just found another bug I think- I was playing a music file under mplayer but the volume was uneffected when I tried to alter it with the GPE panel volume slider.
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A few stress tests I'd like to suggest for adding to OZ please
quake2
(e)uae - the amiga emulator
zynaddsubfx - the realtime 'analogue' midi synth
Thanks!
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tried "ipkg install e-uae" danbold?
quake2 and zynaddsubfx are not in OE so not in OZ.
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It is mine or 3.4.5.1. beta 1 is not working on spitz ??
flavien,
i have the same problem, and the other kernel you indicate is also working on my c3000.
I've also followed the instructions on installing a 2.6 kernel.
md5sum is OK for the zImage file.
As i've played with my Z and Roms lately (opendbsd and pdaxrom b2 for c3000) i've restored it from scratch (nand restore and so on..) and even after that the Z won't boot.
Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0)
ARRRGHH
i've re-read the OZ website page about sl-c3000 install... and someone (JaMa) said on march the 20th that even with an SD card in slot while booting the Z won't boot...[/color]
So flavien, you have to remove all memory cards and it should do the trick. I didn't even think about it and i always hae an SD card in slot...
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I was just about to log my OE bugs (thats the problems with dependencies and packaging right?) but the OE bugzilla only gives OZ 3.5.3 (or Familiar) as an option right now.
Unfortunately the Z is back running Cacko now so I can't test any fixes but just so I don't forget there were 2 other GPE bugs I didn't mention
under the screen control panel, the brightness slider would slowly move down by itself after making an adjustment.
The USB options didn't work, but I think thats a known bug. If I remember correctly, aren't the SD and CF slots bundled into one option? How is that meant to work
Someone told me that Yahoo! mail would work under dillo but it didn't for me. I presume minimo is in OE, but what about gtk+ webcore?
http://gtk-webcore.sourceforge.net/ (http://gtk-webcore.sourceforge.net/)
Alongside minimo (if it works now!), thats got to be our best option for a decent browser on our Zs. Who do I hassle to get this into OE if its not already?
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Bug 1582
when running gpe-conf network as a 'normal user' (not root), the applet asks for
root password but after making changes the applet will complain "No write access
to network configuration".
So network access modifications must be done as 'root'.
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Someone told me that Yahoo! mail would work under dillo but it didn't for me. I presume minimo is in OE, but what about gtk+ webcore?
http://gtk-webcore.sourceforge.net/ (http://gtk-webcore.sourceforge.net/)
Alongside minimo (if it works now!), thats got to be our best option for a decent browser on our Zs. Who do I hassle to get this into OE if its not already?
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The gpe-mini-browser that is installed by default uses gtk-webcore.
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my usb mouse is not detected by default.
doing a 'modprobe usbmouse' makes it detected by the system... dmesg provides something like :
input: Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. SCE USB MOUSE as /class/input/input4
but there is no cursor... i think it was working fine with previous test5 gpe image for c3000
any idea ? bug ?
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About 'popping' - by default no USB drivers are loaded. Use 'Settings/USB settings' (or how it was called on GPE) to select which USB Client functionality you want to have enabled.
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this seems like not working but modprobe g_ether (for usbnet) or g_file_storage (for usb mass storage) works
so far so good
I like 3.5.4.1-alpha! much better than SharpROM
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The gpe-mini-browser that is installed by default uses gtk-webcore.
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I tried accessing mail.yahoo.com with the GPE mini-browser and it didn't get past the first screen. webcore is based upon konqueror and konq has been able to deal with Yahoo! mail for years. I wonder why it doesn't work then? They didn't remove javascript for the GPE browser did they?
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Holy c**p the frame buffer is fast in text mode, this is great for me as dmesg took awhile on pdaxrom
you now have yourself a new user, all i want now is cpu freq scaling and i would be really happy
good work, i guess now is the time for me to get serios about bitbake and start compiling/write recipies all those daemons and console tools i love so much
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[[EDIT]]
Problem fixed... problem existed between the stylus and the chair.
Also, GPE is super fast on my C1000. I like it. Thanks Hrw and crew.
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In the installation instructions for C3100 it is stated that OZ will be installed to the hard-drive instead of to flash. Is this still the case? Isn't there any way to install to flash instead, seems like a bit of a waste not to use the built-in 128 MB flash rom...
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In the installation instructions for C3100 it is stated that OZ will be installed to the hard-drive instead of to flash. Is this still the case? Isn't there any way to install to flash instead, seems like a bit of a waste not to use the built-in 128 MB flash rom...
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that would be nice, can you? Actually working on all the bugs(if any) would be the priority probably...
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In the installation instructions for C3100 it is stated that OZ will be installed to the hard-drive instead of to flash. Is this still the case? Isn't there any way to install to flash instead, seems like a bit of a waste not to use the built-in 128 MB flash rom...
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that would be nice, can you? Actually working on all the bugs(if any) would be the priority probably...
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Please keep in mind that most folks really do not want their rootfs on flash when they have a large HDD available as this would bring back all the problems caused with ipkg-link once you try to install apps to HDD.
Having a large rootfs is a very nice thing and simplifies things for most users.
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In the installation instructions for C3100 it is stated that OZ will be installed to the hard-drive instead of to flash. Is this still the case? Isn't there any way to install to flash instead, seems like a bit of a waste not to use the built-in 128 MB flash rom...
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that would be nice, can you? Actually working on all the bugs(if any) would be the priority probably...
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Please keep in mind that most folks really do not want their rootfs on flash when they have a large HDD available as this would bring back all the problems caused with ipkg-link once you try to install apps to HDD.
Having a large rootfs is a very nice thing and simplifies things for most users.
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Also keep in mind the flash is much slower than the microdrive. Using the microdrive gives quite a performance gain. Sharp couldn't do this in 2.4 due to kernel limitations that no longer exist. I doubt OZ will release images that use the flash for these reasons although you could easily build them using OE after changing the fstab/kernel commandline.
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nks for the kexec patch' i can see this as bieng a great way to update a kerenl, effectivy turning flash into a better bios
any news on cpu freq scalling, i had a look at the code, but at the moment it is beyond me
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I'm having trouble install instaling python-pygtk2. It can't seem to find python-core. It's in the python feed. Going to have to do it the manual way, downloading the ipk & installing. I'm finding the package manager very slow, perhaps it's the long list of ipks. Command line works better if you know what you you want/need.
I really like GPE, it has lots of potential. especially like the security lock on suspend feature. Also the GPE mini browser is very good, fast.
Cheers,
Jerry
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Note: this is not a flame, I'm interested to know the answers that's all.
Also keep in mind the flash is much slower than the microdrive. Using the microdrive gives quite a performance gain.
how so? I've seen quite a number of post stating that 3100 has more internal flash and that it makes it more responsive during suspend resume. Where is the performance gain?
Sharp couldn't do this in 2.4 due to kernel limitations that no longer exist. I doubt OZ will release images that use the flash for these reasons although you could easily build them using OE after changing the fstab/kernel commandline.
What kernel limitations are you talking about?
Thc has built a pdaxrom version using 2.4 kernel and / on the micro-hd
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Note: this is not a flame, I'm interested to know the answers that's all.
Also keep in mind the flash is much slower than the microdrive. Using the microdrive gives quite a performance gain.
how so? I've seen quite a number of post stating that 3100 has more internal flash and that it makes it more responsive during suspend resume. Where is the performance gain?
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During suspend/resume you might see a speed up since flash doesn't have to spin up the platter, but for regular operations:
* NAND isn't what I'd call fast, especially when writing stuff
* the zlib (de)compression needed for jffs2 is quite expensive on ARM cpus
You could do a 'time dd if=<bigfile> of=/dev/null' with cold cache to have some crude benchmarks.
I'm running root-on-sd (and /home on flash) on my c700 and h2210 and applications launch faster than when running on flash.
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What kernel limitations are you talking about?
Thc has built a pdaxrom version using 2.4 kernel and / on the micro-hd
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Yes but he still has to mount the flash as / then piviot root into it, 2.6 boots then mounts the micro drive as /, however the initrd to do this is part of the kernel itself and the kernel is stored in flash
basically on open zaurus you can do whatever you want with the flash, including mounting and using it as storage, but its not as simple as it sounds
nand vs micro drive, nand will be faster, however my zaurus is very nice and fast, comes back up instantly, but i am using the boot strap image (no opie/gpe only good old /dev/tty)
i like not having a small / filesystem and using the microdrive is acceptable, it works - im happy
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Yes but he still has to mount the flash as / then piviot root into it, 2.6 boots then mounts the micro drive as /, however the initrd to do this is part of the kernel itself and the kernel is stored in flash
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No initrd needed, even better: it doesn't use an initrd at all!
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The default settings for audio-output on my Zaurus C3100 seems a bit strange. To enable support for headphones I need to play around with alsamixer. Otherwise all audio is played through the built-in speaker, even if I have plugged in headphones.
Perhaps it would be a good idea to enable headphone sensing by default?
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The default settings for audio-output on my Zaurus C3100 seems a bit strange. To enable support for headphones I need to play around with alsamixer. Otherwise all audio is played through the built-in speaker, even if I have plugged in headphones.
Perhaps it would be a good idea to enable headphone sensing by default?
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Which settings did you change to which value exactly?
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if i want to install OZ in my C860 should i go for the 3.5.4 release or 3.5.4.1 test.
What are the differences between the 2 for the 7x0 machines.
tovarish
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The default settings for audio-output on my Zaurus C3100 seems a bit strange. To enable support for headphones I need to play around with alsamixer. Otherwise all audio is played through the built-in speaker, even if I have plugged in headphones.
Perhaps it would be a good idea to enable headphone sensing by default?
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Which settings did you change to which value exactly?
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Using alsamixer, I had to change "Jack Function" to Headphone and "Speaker Function" to Off, otherwise audio would play from both the speaker, and the headphones. However, I can't seem to reproduce the error when I try to revert back to the old settings, so I'm guessing maybe it was something temporary.
Has anyone else encountered similar problems?
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For those who would wonder : http://handhelds.org/~bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1582 (http://handhelds.org/~bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1582)
Bug 1582
when running gpe-conf network as a 'normal user' (not root), the applet asks for
root password but after making changes the applet will complain "No write access
to network configuration".
So network access modifications must be done as 'root'.
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Congrats to the OZ team on OZ.3.5.4.1!
Just installed it on my 3100 with 2.6 kernel and installed went well and OZ/GPE looks great!
This is my first OZ install and so far impressed overall. As others have said, it feels very responsive and quick! Was recently using pdaXrom and Cacko/X/Qt/Debian before that as comparisons....
Have only noticed a few things so far....these are just my thoughts/reactions to what I'm discovering as I browse around OZ/GPE.....
1) mini-browser
A. Works OK overall, but is there way to organize bookmarks into folders?
B. Has crashed one time, when I clicked on 'Add Reply' button in OESF forums.
C. Can't tab through input fields. For example, when you login to forums...
2) Package Manager
A. Works, but seems a bit odd compared to using pdaXrom's or Synaptic package manager.
Specifically, those other package managers have the package info column shown by default. Very useful for noobs like me to know what you want to install. I did find the menu option for showing info, but would like a default option for showing info on all the listed packages.
B. Tried installing several packages, but I get various error message at some point during install process. Not sure why this happens. Have updated package lists...
3) Windows
Why isn't there a minimize/expand window button on each window? Although I have found the 'upside-down ^' in the upper left corner of windows....
4) Calendar
Seems odd that there are no menus, just a few buttons across top...or am I missing something??
Again, overall, very impressed with this ROM!
Happy to make a contribution to the OZ team....however, need to do this with PayPal.....so who should I donate to??
Thanks,
Mark
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Congrats to the OZ team on OZ.3.5.4.1!
Happy to make a contribution to the OZ team....however, need to do this with PayPal.....so who should I donate to??
Thanks,
Mark
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You may get hints at : [a href=\"http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/developers/]http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/developers/[/url]
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Thanks for the info, obergix!
Just PayPal'd Mickey and Chris!
Would have done the same for Hrw, but he doesn't have PayPal unfortunately...
Mark
Congrats to the OZ team on OZ.3.5.4.1!
Happy to make a contribution to the OZ team....however, need to do this with PayPal.....so who should I donate to??
Thanks,
Mark
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You may get hints at : [a href=\"http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/developers/]http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/developers/[/url]
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About 'popping' - by default no USB drivers are loaded. Use 'Settings/USB settings' (or how it was called on GPE) to select which USB Client functionality you want to have enabled.
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this seems like not working but modprobe g_ether (for usbnet) or g_file_storage (for usb mass storage) works
so far so good
I like 3.5.4.1-alpha! much better than SharpROM
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Hmmm... about g_file_storage, I've tried and use it "manually", i.e. without gpe-conf, and it was not a success at all on my akita/gpe
first umounted /media/cf
then :
modprobe g_file_storage file=/dev/hda1
Resulted in a recognition of the USB device by the desktop, but lots of errors appeared.
Log from the desktop :
Mar 27 23:29:34 shuttle kernel: usb 1-2.3: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 7
Mar 27 23:29:34 shuttle kernel: scsi2 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
Mar 27 23:29:34 shuttle kernel: usb-storage: device found at 7
Mar 27 23:29:35 shuttle kernel: usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning
Mar 27 23:29:39 shuttle kernel: Vendor: Linux Model: File-Stor Gadget Rev: 0311
Mar 27 23:29:39 shuttle kernel: Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Mar 27 23:29:39 shuttle kernel: SCSI device sdb: 1005921 512-byte hdwr sectors (515 MB)
Mar 27 23:29:39 shuttle kernel: sdb: assuming drive cache: write through
Mar 27 23:29:39 shuttle kernel: SCSI device sdb: 1005921 512-byte hdwr sectors (515 MB)
Mar 27 23:29:39 shuttle kernel: sdb: assuming drive cache: write through
Mar 27 23:29:39 shuttle kernel: sdb: unknown partition table
Mar 27 23:29:39 shuttle kernel: sd 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sdb
Mar 27 23:29:39 shuttle kernel: usb-storage: device scan complete
Mar 27 23:29:40 shuttle kernel: usb 1-2.3: reset full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 7
Mar 27 23:29:40 shuttle last message repeated 2 times
Mar 27 23:29:40 shuttle kernel: sd 2:0:0:0: SCSI error: return code = 0x70000
Mar 27 23:29:40 shuttle kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 8
Mar 27 23:29:40 shuttle kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sdb, logical block 8
Mar 27 23:29:41 shuttle kernel: usb 1-2.3: reset full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 7
Mar 27 23:29:41 shuttle last message repeated 4 times
Now, the CF seems a little bit broken... so kids, don't try this at home :-/
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Just PayPal'd Mickey and Chris!
Would have done the same for Hrw, but he doesn't have PayPal unfortunately...
And I will probably never create Paypal account - they do not support Poland. And thats why I choosed Moneybookers. But if you want to help.. all my SD cards are not working under 2.6 kernel ;(
And we need to clean up developers list and update it to current status. Kergoth is MIA, Cwiiis is working on 'poky' rather then on OpenZaurus.
We got few new developers - like Patrick '_law_' Steiner which got 'collie' which was offered to me some time ago - he will work on improving GPE on collie. There are few OpenEmbedded developers which use Zaurus machines with OpenZaurus devel or Angstrom devel - their contributions to OE helps too.
There is a few outside developers which help us to get 2.6 kernel working better on Zauruses - things like ALSA sound cannot be made so quickly without Liam Girdwood.
And many things in OpenZaurus 3.5.4 feeds are possible because work of NSLU-Linux people, Familiar team etc.. etc.. etc.
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Just PayPal'd Mickey and Chris!
Would have done the same for Hrw, but he doesn't have PayPal unfortunately...
And I will probably never create Paypal account - they do not support Poland. And thats why I choosed Moneybookers. But if you want to help.. all my SD cards are not working under 2.6 kernel ;( ...
PM me your address Hrw and I'll send you an SD card!
And we need to clean up developers list and update it to current status. Kergoth is MIA, Cwiiis is working on 'poky' rather then on OpenZaurus.
You mean I just PP'd Kergoth for nothing????
We got few new developers - like Patrick '_law_' Steiner which got 'collie' which was offered to me some time ago - he will work on improving GPE on collie. There are few OpenEmbedded developers which use Zaurus machines with OpenZaurus devel or Angstrom devel - their contributions to OE helps too.
There is a few outside developers which help us to get 2.6 kernel working better on Zauruses - things like ALSA sound cannot be made so quickly without Liam Girdwood.
And many things in OpenZaurus 3.5.4 feeds are possible because work of NSLU-Linux people, Familiar team etc.. etc.. etc.
Yipes, sounds like I'll need to take on another job, to support the whole family now....
Meanwhile, have noticed one more thing not working right, can't seem to suspend my 3100....
Thanks,
Mark
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UPDATE:
I've just tried connecting to my WiFi network at home and have problem connecting to it.
While the WiFi monitor says that it sees my network (Quality 90%, Level 211dBm, Noise 150 dBm) and I've entered my WEP password, when I click the OK button I get the following error message:
"Error
No write access to Network Configuration"
Why do I get this message, I successfully entered my password when asked to gain access to the Network Setup app?
Any suggestions??
FWIW, I have successfully connected online today using my Socket Ethernet card while at my office today....however, just tried connecting using Socket Ethernet card at home and doesn't work for some reason...
Would like to be able to use my Ambicom WiFi card or the Socket Ethernet card at home....
Meanwhile, good news as far as the 'Suspend' issue...now it works!!
Thanks for any help!
Mark
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While the WiFi monitor says that it sees my network (Quality 90%, Level 211dBm, Noise 150 dBm) and I've entered my WEP password, when I click the OK button I get the following error message:
"Error
No write access to Network Configuration"
Why do I get this message, I successfully entered my password when asked to gain access to the Network Setup app?
Any suggestions??
Mark
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[a href=\"http://handhelds.org/~bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1582]http://handhelds.org/~bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1582[/url]
In the meantine, try using ifup / ifdown from the command-line (as root)
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While the WiFi monitor says that it sees my network (Quality 90%, Level 211dBm, Noise 150 dBm) and I've entered my WEP password, when I click the OK button I get the following error message:
"Error
No write access to Network Configuration"
Why do I get this message, I successfully entered my password when asked to gain access to the Network Setup app?
Any suggestions??
Mark
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[a href=\"http://handhelds.org/~bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1582]http://handhelds.org/~bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1582[/url]
OK, did that....
In the meantine, try using ifup / ifdown from the command-line (as root)
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OK, tried that..... and something else, but not sure if it's right thing....
#ifup /ifdown
-sh: ifup/ifdown: not found
#if down wlan0
#
#if up wlan0
udhcpc (v0.0.9-pre) started
Sending discover.....
Sending discover.....
Sending discover.....
No lease. forking to background.
Any other suggestions???
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While the WiFi monitor says that it sees my network (Quality 90%, Level 211dBm, Noise 150 dBm) and I've entered my WEP password, when I click the OK button I get the following error message:
"Error
No write access to Network Configuration"
Why do I get this message, I successfully entered my password when asked to gain access to the Network Setup app?
Any suggestions??
Mark
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[a href=\"http://handhelds.org/~bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1582]http://handhelds.org/~bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1582[/url]
OK, did that....
In the meantine, try using ifup / ifdown from the command-line (as root)
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OK, tried that..... and something else, but not sure if it's right thing....
#ifup /ifdown
-sh: ifup/ifdown: not found
#if down wlan0
#
#if up wlan0
udhcpc (v0.0.9-pre) started
Sending discover.....
Sending discover.....
Sending discover.....
No lease. forking to background.
Any other suggestions???
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ifup & ifdown are seperate commands:
# ifup
# ifdownnot# ifup /ifdowntry them seperately
Good luck
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Thanks, Jerry...actually I tried that too...but didn't help...unless I'm still doing it wrong...
Mark
#ifup wlan0
pd_filecheck: process 5725 exists (/var/run/udhcpc.wlan0.pid)
#ifdown wlan0
#
While the WiFi monitor says that it sees my network (Quality 90%, Level 211dBm, Noise 150 dBm) and I've entered my WEP password, when I click the OK button I get the following error message:
"Error
No write access to Network Configuration"
Why do I get this message, I successfully entered my password when asked to gain access to the Network Setup app?
Any suggestions??
Mark
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[a href=\"http://handhelds.org/~bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1582]http://handhelds.org/~bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1582[/url]
OK, did that....
In the meantine, try using ifup / ifdown from the command-line (as root)
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=120625\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
OK, tried that..... and something else, but not sure if it's right thing....
#ifup /ifdown
-sh: ifup/ifdown: not found
#if down wlan0
#
#if up wlan0
udhcpc (v0.0.9-pre) started
Sending discover.....
Sending discover.....
Sending discover.....
No lease. forking to background.
Any other suggestions???
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=121066\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
ifup & ifdown are seperate commands:
# ifup
# ifdownnot# ifup /ifdowntry them seperately
Good luck
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UPDATE:
I've just tried connecting to my WiFi network at home and have problem connecting to it.
While the WiFi monitor says that it sees my network (Quality 90%, Level 211dBm, Noise 150 dBm) and I've entered my WEP password, when I click the OK button I get the following error message:
"Error
No write access to Network Configuration"
Why do I get this message, I successfully entered my password when asked to gain access to the Network Setup app?
Any suggestions??
FWIW, I have successfully connected online today using my Socket Ethernet card while at my office today....however, just tried connecting using Socket Ethernet card at home and doesn't work for some reason...
Would like to be able to use my Ambicom WiFi card or the Socket Ethernet card at home....
Meanwhile, good news as far as the 'Suspend' issue...now it works!!
Thanks for any help!
Mark
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Hello.
I think you set the network setting after login with root .
After that, please login your user account.
thanks.
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Hello all, great release.
I've now had a CL-3200 for two days and the thing rocks. While I'm not new to linux, i'm very new to oz; so please excuse my ignorence, i'm learning though
Ok, i've got gpe running and only experiancing some minor issues.
On install I partitioned my hdd to 3 partitions, the first two are ext3 and the last one I was going to wait to format in the oz distro.
Looking around in sbin, and all over the system I'm unable to locate mkfs.vfat; I have never had to format anything using vfat before, so i'm a little stumped as to where it is.
Do I reinstall a package to be able to format vfat?
If i format the third partition using ext3 and edit fstab would I run into any issues later? I kept checking all the forum and can not find much.
I'm going to install a few things to my gentoo box so I can cross compile, which sounds like an interesting adventure trying to get firefox working.
Are they any web browsers atm that use flash and work on this distro? I'm happy to just use lynx most the time but would be interesting to get www.youtube.com working on the zaurus
On last question, I installed kismet and currently have a planex gw-cf11x card, Is monitor mode built into oz or would I need to locate a kernel module patch for the card? wireless otherwise works excellent.
No need to answer all the questions, will ask them in appropriate forums later if needed.
Cheers
Marc Towers
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I'm going to install a few things to my gentoo box so I can cross compile, which sounds like an interesting adventure trying to get firefox working.
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ipkg update ; ipkg install firefox
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I'm going to install a few things to my gentoo box so I can cross compile, which sounds like an interesting adventure trying to get firefox working.
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ipkg update ; ipkg install firefox
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lol, ok not as much of an adventure as first thought.
My ipkg update was not working but now fixed (helps if I write the feed down properly I guess)
will try installing firefox now
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ipkg install dosfstools for mkfs.vfat
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You're right, asm-nai!....Did that and my settings were saved....
However, then tried to get to this website using the browser and nothing happened...
Guess I need to fiddle some more with settings.....
Thanks,
Mark
UPDATE:
I've just tried connecting to my WiFi network at home and have problem connecting to it.
While the WiFi monitor says that it sees my network (Quality 90%, Level 211dBm, Noise 150 dBm) and I've entered my WEP password, when I click the OK button I get the following error message:
"Error
No write access to Network Configuration"
Why do I get this message, I successfully entered my password when asked to gain access to the Network Setup app?
Any suggestions??
FWIW, I have successfully connected online today using my Socket Ethernet card while at my office today....however, just tried connecting using Socket Ethernet card at home and doesn't work for some reason...Â
Would like to be able to use my Ambicom WiFi card or the Socket Ethernet card at home....
Meanwhile, good news as far as the 'Suspend' issue...now it works!!
Thanks for any help!
Mark
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Hello.
I think you set the network setting after login with root .
After that, please login your user account.
thanks.
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cheers for the help, installed firefox fine (was not expecting ipkg to actually be like gentoo emerge) and sorted partitions. Had to fix a permission issue with /var/tmp but may have been my fault.
Will take everything back to scratch and reinstall OZ now I know more about the zaurus.
Now strace and gdb are working, should be able to work out anything else by myself.
Next payday you guys are getting a donation for sure
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is there a newer build of fbvncserver for the C3x00/C1000 machines? i remember there was one for the c7x0 and 5x00 but the keyboard mapping is hardcoded into the binary so it needs to be rebuild with the correct keymappings. i tried to compile it once, but there were too many missing files
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A question for people with 3100s... Is the 2.6 kernel really faster than the 2.4?
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Also, since I'm almost ready to try 3.5.4.1 on my C3K1, how should my internal flash be partitioned before flashing?
I currently have the latest pdaXrom with my home partition being 58mb in size... Someone mentioned that OZ only works with the default (Sharp ROM) partitioning...
What should I do exatcly in order to flash properly?
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OZ 3.5.4.1 does not use flash on 3x00 machines - only kernel is flashed. Whole system boots directly from first partition of microdrive.
Standard flash partitioning is needed for c7x0/tosa/poodle/akita machines only - the ones without microdrives.
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Ok, thanks Hrw!
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As a non kernel/driver hacker, I'm just curious as to why/how SD support has basically gone away in kernel 2.6.x when 2.4.x was fine. Is it because driver source code is not available and manufacturers have not compiled for 2.6?
Has anyone found a way to get SD cards working with the 2.6 kernel, or is it a lost cause? OZ 3.5.4 Alpha1+ isn't a valid option for me without SD support...
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Zauruses with 2.4 kernels had binary drivers. Under 2.6 there is new SD/MMC subsystem which was written with all freely available documentation. Each manufacturer has own version of specification etc.. nightmare.
We have sd/mmc support - just some cards dont yet work.
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I think it would be a good idea for people to post working sd cards in the wiki... ;-)
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That would be a great idea.
p.s. thanks Hrw for the quick response.
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such list can be problematic - for example many people has Kingston cards. But inside it can be Toshiba or Hitachi or any other brand - Kingston just rebrand many cards. I had working Kingston cards (not mine) and few non-working ones.
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I think it would be a good idea for people to post working sd cards in the wiki... ;-)
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Hmmm... which wiki ?
FYI, I have a Sandisk 512 Mb working on 2.6 with 3.5.4.1-alpha1 on akita... so it's not a lost cause.
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I got my 512 Mb Kingston SD working, but neither of my 1 Gb SD cards (PNY and Kingston) are recognized.
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Are we any closer to another 3.5.4.1 test release? What improvements can we expect, if anything has been added other than bug fixes?
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Expect alpha2 in this week. We update to 2.6.16 kernel, usb devices should work after connection on cxx00 machines, keyboard should not die in opie (famous Fn+Shift bug). GPE will be more polished thx to CoreDump who made big amount of changes here.
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Great news Hrw!
What changes have been made to GPE since alpha 1, have you a link to a full list? I'll be happy with GPE when
It comes with gpe-filemanager as standard
easy GUI removal of cards (especially WiFi)
Yahoo! mail works under the mini-browser
Search feature in package manager
Hopefully some of those niggles no longer apply
I don't suppose this new kernel has the pxa270 video accel. patches or cpu scaling yet? Good to hear the USB problem is sorted!
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Great news Hrw!
What changes have been made to GPE since alpha 1, have you a link to a full list? I'll be happy with GPE when
(Out of my head:)
- Working and pre-configured hotkeys for SL-Cxxxx
- Correctly sized desktop and panel fonts on 200 DPI machines (thanks to Xora and florian)
- The virtual keyboard will no longer be killed / restarted after auto-rotation regardless of the users preferences.
It comes with gpe-filemanager as standard
I believe this is the case now for SL-C3xxx machines, yes.
easy GUI removal of cards (especially WiFi)
I'm not so sure about this one
Yahoo! mail works under the mini-browser
Dunno
Search feature in package manager
AFAIK the package manager has not been updated since alpha2
I don't suppose this new kernel has the pxa270 video accel. patches or cpu scaling yet? Good to hear the USB problem is sorted!
No video accel in 2.6.15 and I haven't heard of anyone porting the 2.4 patch to 2.6.16 either. I'd love to see that one in, too.
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Hi,
I'm the lead dev on ZPSX, a playstation emulator on the Sharp Zaurus. I'm pretty new to the Zaurus "scene" but am familar with many other handhelds. Danboid was nice enough to tip me off to OZ. I've been using pdaXrom until now.
If nobody else is currently working on whipping up a kernel patch for BVDD support in OZ's 2.6.16 kernel, I'd be very interested in giving it a go. I've never done a kernel patch before, but that shouldn't be much an issue as I pick up on things quickly.
Once BVDD support is in place for OZ, we can get SDL to support it in a short matter of time. Meaning a new and faster ZPSX for the Z, and OZ in particular.
Hope I can help.
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which beta rom is compatible with sl-5600?
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I have always wondered what bvdd does, does it reserve the sram for the frame buffer?
wouldnt it be a better and more consistent idea to speed up the frame buffer supprot thats in linux and pehaps merge bvdd into it, once again i need to know more about what bvdd does but this seems like a better solution as then both the VT's X and FB programs are all accelerated
also i heard that someone was working on pxa255 acceleration fro directFB perhaps anything not approprite for the kernel could go in there insteaad and then tell SDL to use directFB?
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EzerchE: use OpenZaurus 3.5.4 for sl-5600 (poodle)
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Hrw:
I see you've uploaded the Alpha2 image & feed. Is it ready for testing? I did try the GPE Alpha2 version briefly on my 3100, however once I entered my user info and was presented with the login screen, I couldn't login. Every time I entered my password it would try and start GPE, but then end back at the login. I even tried logging in as root with same result.
I tried to get to the console to see what kind of errors were occuring, but Ctrl/Alt/Backspace didn't kill xdm, it kept restarting and presenting me with the login.
Good news is, rotating the screen doesn't kill the login screen.
Looking forward to trying Alpha2
Cheers,
Jerry
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I tried to get to the console to see what kind of errors were occuring, but Ctrl/Alt/Backspace didn't kill xdm, it kept restarting and presenting me with the login.
For future reference, you need to kill it about 10 times before it goes away, then you can log in at the terminal.
Si
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Alpha2! Surprised it didn't get announced in this thread at least, if not a brand new thread.
I'm not going to test OZ again until pxa270 video accelleration is in (more correctly, my dad won't let me ) the kernel, but I would be grateful if someone running OZ alpha2/GPE on spitz could test these three things out for me
1- Does spell check work under Abiword now? (it was greyed out in alpha1)
2- Does importing excel files into gnumeric still show a warning/error (I can't remember what it said but it would open the file fine after you'd OK'd it- just annoying)
3- Does beep media player work OK now?
With all this new interest in GPE, has work resumed on the X11 port of kopi? What about Gnomecal? I've never used it so I don't know if its any good or how big it is- I'm presuming its way too big or it would be in OZ already I suppose.
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Hrw:
I see you've uploaded the Alpha2 image & feed. Is it ready for testing? I did try the GPE Alpha2 version briefly on my 3100, however once I entered my user info and was presented with the login screen, I couldn't login. Every time I entered my password it would try and start GPE, but then end back at the login. I even tried logging in as root with same result.
Jerry
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I'm having the same problem.
It starts loading matchbox and then before the panel loads it goes back to the login.
This happens for root and the regular user. Perhaps that's why this release wasn't announced in the forum.
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Hrw:
I see you've uploaded the Alpha2 image & feed. Is it ready for testing? I did try the GPE Alpha2 version briefly on my 3100, however once I entered my user info and was presented with the login screen, I couldn't login. Every time I entered my password it would try and start GPE, but then end back at the login. I even tried logging in as root with same result.
Jerry
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I'm having the same problem.
It starts loading matchbox and then before the panel loads it goes back to the login.
This happens for root and the regular user. Perhaps that's why this release wasn't announced in the forum.
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Could you create a new user (one who never existed before / who has no existing /home/$USER direcory) and try again please?
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Matchbox Window Manager 1.0 included in the GPE image is broken, it seems. It fails on startup saying that root winodws is unavailable (or more exactly "unavailible", typo included
I've experienced the same issues (see posts on openzaurus-devel list).
One way is to downgrade it to 0.9.5+cvs version, maybe...
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...usb devices should work after connection on cxx00 machines,...
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Hmmm... not yet in alpha2 though... the akita gpe image is simply missing the ohci-hcd driver, AFAICT ... will probably have to wait until alpha3
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Matchbox Window Manager 1.0 included in the GPE image is broken, it seems. It fails on startup saying that root winodws is unavailable (or more exactly "unavailible", typo included
I've experienced the same issues (see posts on openzaurus-devel list).
One way is to downgrade it to 0.9.5+cvs version, maybe...
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matchbox-wm_1.0 runs just fine and is known to work as expected on Akita and Spitz. Either the image, or your installation, is broken, not matchbox-wm.
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report ALL bugs in bugtracker
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Sounds like the good ol' keylaunch bugs. Try with a freshly created user, and if that doesn't help, file a bug like hrw said
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Hrw:
I see you've uploaded the Alpha2 image & feed. Is it ready for testing? I did try the GPE Alpha2 version briefly on my 3100, however once I entered my user info and was presented with the login screen, I couldn't login. Every time I entered my password it would try and start GPE, but then end back at the login. I even tried logging in as root with same result.
Jerry
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=122876\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
I'm having the same problem.
It starts loading matchbox and then before the panel loads it goes back to the login.
This happens for root and the regular user. Perhaps that's why this release wasn't announced in the forum.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=122930\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
Same here too - I've been running alpha1 with no problems, but after an "ipkg upgrade" it now keeps bouncing me back to the login screen.
Tried wiping and recreating the home directory - no change.
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The solution has been provided by the2nd on the bugtracker. It's a problem related to keylaunch. Basically you have to comment out every Fi keys in /etc/keylaunch.cfg. In fact there are only two lines, one with F4 and one with F11. Comment both out, and you're done !
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The solution has been provided by the2nd on the bugtracker. It's a problem related to keylaunch. Basically you have to comment out every Fi keys in /etc/keylaunch.cfg. In fact there are only two lines, one with F4 and one with F11. Comment both out, and you're done !
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Something looks very wrong here.....
/etc/keylaunch on Sl-Cxxxx should contain about 20(!) lines, 8-10 of which are commented out.
Also /etc/$somewhere/kbdconfig for SL-Cxxxx has F4 and F11 disabled by default.
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The solution has been provided by the2nd on the bugtracker. It's a problem related to keylaunch. Basically you have to comment out every Fi keys in /etc/keylaunch.cfg. In fact there are only two lines, one with F4 and one with F11. Comment both out, and you're done !
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=122980\")
Would you be so kind as to point to the bug ticket in question ? Thanks in advance.
Update : In any case, I've filed this one specifically concerning my problem on alpha2 on akita... feel free to complement, add depends, etc : [a href=\"http://bugs.treke.net/show_bug.cgi?id=838]http://bugs.treke.net/show_bug.cgi?id=838[/url]
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report ALL bugs in bugtracker
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Would you clasify this as an OZ or GPE bug?
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3.5.4.1-alpha2 GPE users [span style=\'font-size:14pt;line-height:100%\']should[/span] do
ipkg update
ipkg upgrade
so matchbox-wm will be replaced with 1.0-r1 which contain proper configs.
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3.5.4.1-alpha2 GPE users [span style=\'font-size:14pt;line-height:100%\']should[/span] do
ipkg update
ipkg upgrade
so matchbox-wm will be replaced with 1.0-r1 which contain proper configs.
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This worked. Thanks.
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I flashed the latest OZ/Bootstrap just to give a go to the 2.6.16 kernel (being a pdaXrom user actually); I must say it was rather impressive, the device has no suspend problem of any sort, it's fast and not too much memory hungry.
However, altough I carfully resized to root partition to use all the space before flashing, it seems like the MTD definitions are hard coded in the zImage. I found a configure option in the monotone/BB tree to set the home size, but it's really painful to force the user to use 60/60 by default (and building OZ only for THAT is beyond simplicity). Or did I miss something ?
ipkg 0.99 is absolutely TERRIBLE as well. I wonder how come it COULD be so slow ? And the tarred ipks were much more convenient to handle ... well, anyway, if you want to stick with that. Other than that, OZ has greatly improved in a short time, especially the kernel.
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I'm looking for a mp3 player for GPE, I treid beep media player, but gui has major problems, yes, I posted a bug report. http://bugs.treke.net/show_bug.cgi?id=873 (http://bugs.treke.net/show_bug.cgi?id=873) I don't see xmms in the feed (except for the opie feed- not sure about whether adding the opie feed is a good idea), any suggestions?
Jerry
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I'm looking for a mp3 player for GPE, I treid beep media player, but gui has major problems, yes, I posted a bug report. http://bugs.treke.net/show_bug.cgi?id=873 (http://bugs.treke.net/show_bug.cgi?id=873) I don't see xmms in the feed (except for the opie feed- not sure about whether adding the opie feed is a good idea), any suggestions?[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=123556\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
I just use mplayer in a terminal right now, but you could try mpd & gmpc on for a fit. Takes a bit to get used to; you have to start mpd (the actual player) in the background separately from gmpc (the gui front end controller), but it does work.
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ipkg 0.99 is absolutely TERRIBLE as well. I wonder how come it COULD be so slow ? [div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=123329\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
I have noticed a problem with ipkg as well; when I try to install a local file, ipkg first pauses for a long time before finally outputting anything. It appears as if it is searching for something... is it, perhaps, first (unnecessarily) parsing the list of available packages? Is there something that needs to be done to speed up the process?
Admittedly, I have not done much searching on this topic; maxg's post just brought it to mind.
- ashikase
- anpachi, gifu, japan (soon to be osaka)
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I'm looking for a mp3 player for GPE, I treid beep media player, but gui has major problems, yes, I posted a bug report. http://bugs.treke.net/show_bug.cgi?id=873 (http://bugs.treke.net/show_bug.cgi?id=873) I don't see xmms in the feed (except for the opie feed- not sure about whether adding the opie feed is a good idea), any suggestions?
Jerry
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I found the same problem with beep. It doesn't apear to have a skin. I couldn't find a way for it to have MP3 support either. I'm using MPG123 from the command line. Ugly as sin but it works.
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Try running mpd from init (works for me) i use a debian init script that i pulled from my PC and touched up
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Try running mpd from init (works for me) i use a debian init script that i pulled from my PC and touched up
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Got it working.
mpd and ncmpd sure is a lot better than mpg123. Thanks guys.
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Another trick for mpd that you might want to try is add "mpc pause" to your apm suspend scripts so fou can just hit the power button to turn off, then when you turn it back on the music will not be playing
caught me out a few times on public transport when i took the headphones out
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http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/2006/04/26...penzaurus-3541/ (http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/2006/04/26/first-release-candidate-of-openzaurus-3541/)
3.5.4.1-rc1 released
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http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/2006/05/01...penzaurus-3541/ (http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/2006/05/01/second-release-candidate-of-openzaurus-3541/)
3.5.4.1-rc2 released
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http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/2006/05/01...penzaurus-3541/ (http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/2006/05/01/second-release-candidate-of-openzaurus-3541/)
3.5.4.1-rc2 released[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=125347\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
The C7x0 branch is also the one for the C8x0's as well, correct?
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c7x0 = c700, c750, sl-7500 (chinese c750), c760, c860
http://openzaurus.berlios.de/C7x0 (http://openzaurus.berlios.de/C7x0)
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http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/2006/05/01...penzaurus-3541/ (http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/2006/05/01/second-release-candidate-of-openzaurus-3541/)
3.5.4.1-rc2 released[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=125347\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
The C7x0 branch is also the one for the C8x0's as well, correct?
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Yes, all pxa25x clamshells (7xx, 8xx) use the c7x0 images, all microdrive models (3xxx series) the 'spitz' images and akita (c1000) the akita image.
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c7x0 = c700, c750, sl-7500 (chinese c750), c760, c860
http://openzaurus.berlios.de/C7x0 (http://openzaurus.berlios.de/C7x0)[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=125390\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
That's the page I was looking for but couldn't find. Thanks guys
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runnin OZ wiki was good decision - thx lardman, bronson!
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Installed it yesterday.
First impressions are good, suspend/resume works (except once when coming out of suspend my Z hanged).
For no reason whatsoever, keyboard input stopped working and I had to reboot.
A couple of segfaults here and there.
Will post more later.
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Also, Samba still doesn't work properly (see my thread about Samba & Collie) even on my 3100...
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Also, Samba still doesn't work properly (see my thread about Samba & Collie) even on my 3100...
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And funnily enough still no bugreports about that in the bugtracker.....
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good written - if bug is not in bugtracker then it does not exist
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If a bug doesn't fall into the hands of a developer, does it exist?
Sorry.. I couldn't resist the whole tree in the forest thing.
No offence intended.
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...except once when coming out of suspend my Z hanged).
For no reason whatsoever, keyboard input stopped working and I had to reboot.
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I've expereneced these bugs too under RC1.
Have these two issues been reported in bugtracker? If not I would be happy too.
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If a bug doesn't fall into the hands of a developer, does it exist?
Bugtracker reminds me from time to time that there are bugs to fix. When I go into bugzilla I see what is needed to be fixed and can select something.
Forums are not bugtrackers - I read >100 threads per day and cannot remember which ones was about bugs.
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I just cannot understand where we are...I mean
http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/b...embedded.oz354x (http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/branch.psp?branch=org.openembedded.oz354x)
should be the actual stage. How/when are the changes implemented?
About bugs-reporting: I find the oe bugtrackers rather ugly.
1) how do I search for the 3.5.4.1 bugs? I'm using "3.5.4.1" as string in http://bugs.treke.net/ (http://bugs.treke.net/)
Are the bugs marked as resolved when done? I see very old bugs "open"...
2)http://handhelds.org/~bugzilla/
Here is a ton of old/new/open/closed bugs... some of them should have been moved to OE being kernel stuff and not GPE....
Most of them should now have been solved (bluetooth suspend scripts, ipaq-sleep->bl not working).
Sorry, but I'm very confused now... I have very little time to help debugging and I won't waste it.
Thank you for your great work.
Ant
P.S.
My last rant: please look at the bootlogs / syslogs. There are nasty problems with /dev permissions...in ALL beta/rc images
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My last rant: please look at the bootlogs / syslogs. There are nasty problems with /dev permissions...in ALL beta/rc images
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=126683\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
My syslog and kmesg is spammed by a not-so-perfect flash driver on Akita, care to upload an example?
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If a bug doesn't fall into the hands of a developer, does it exist?
Bugtracker reminds me from time to time that there are bugs to fix. When I go into bugzilla I see what is needed to be fixed and can select something.
Forums are not bugtrackers - I read >100 threads per day and cannot remember which ones was about bugs.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=126669\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
Ya, I see the value of them too. I was just teasing you.
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http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/2006/05/22...penzaurus-3541/ (http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/2006/05/22/fourth-release-candidate-of-openzaurus-3541/)
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My last rant: please look at the bootlogs / syslogs. There are nasty problems with /dev permissions...in ALL beta/rc images
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=126683\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
My syslog and kmesg is spammed by a not-so-perfect flash driver on Akita, care to upload an example?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=126689\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
Flashed yestarday evening rc-4 on my C-860, the GPE flavour.
The log messages in "system_info" are again there...
I'll post this evening the logs.
Ant
P.S.
Strange enough, there is a visible screen-flickering! It appears immediatly, on the penguin of the first boot, and remains on the topmost part of the screen in GPE.
Only on my Zaurus ? Nobody ?
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look into the dm menu, lcd phase and com
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Are the timezones packages missing in default RC4 feeds or am I blind?
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Just steal the one you need out of a linux machine. That's how I fixed my AKST zone in Cacko.
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OK, here the GPE-logs.
Bluetooth seems not working in rc-4...
Ant
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Are the timezones packages missing in default RC4 feeds or am I blind?
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Looks like you are blind - 3.5.4/feed/base/ contain timezone-* packages.
OpenZaurus does not use ONE feed for everything but have them separated.
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hrw,
please note that on booting GPE image rc-4 i see in the logs (before "populating udev"):
"mount sysfs failed"
This happens on the second and furthers reboots.
This does not happen with OPIE image rc-4 (at least not on the first boot)
FYI
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Hmm. I suspect altboot but will check it.
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Hmm. I suspect altboot but will check it.
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the exact message is
Please wait: booting...
mount: Mounting sysfs on /sys failed: Device or resource busy
FYI there is another annoying message on shutdown:
Unmounting local filesystems
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/etc/rc.6d/S90reboot cannot create /etc/timestamp: Read-only filesystem
Lastly, I installed the missing bl package, but receive the error:
ipaq-sleepmkdir: Cannot create directory '/var/run/no-sleep'
TIA
Ant
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Hmm. I suspect altboot but will check it.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=128421\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
the exact message is
Please wait: booting...
mount: Mounting sysfs on /sys failed: Device or resource busy
FYI there is another annoying message on shutdown:
Unmounting local filesystems
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/etc/rc.6d/S90reboot cannot create /etc/timestamp: Read-only filesystem
Lastly, I installed the missing bl package, but receive the error:
ipaq-sleepmkdir: Cannot create directory '/var/run/no-sleep'
TIA
Ant
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The sysfs thing is harmless. It is probably caused by altboot which may or may not mount /sys before init is run. So when INIT does the "mount -a" eventually you get the message about /sys already beeing mounted.
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I had to reflash GPE...
Some modules were probably overwritten (snd modules and bluetooth) by ipkg upgrade.
According to
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.p...&forum_id=11924 (http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=10499982&forum_id=11924)
this is the 3rd report...
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I've noticed that oz is now mounting the first partition of my sd card under '/media/card' 9as it should) and the second under '/media/mmcblk0p2' instead of '/media/card1' like it used to. Was this intentional? If so, PPPTTTHHHHWWWWW to that, I say .
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I've noticed that oz is now mounting the first partition of my sd card under '/media/card' 9as it should) and the second under '/media/mmcblk0p2' instead of '/media/card1' like it used to. Was this intentional? If so, PPPTTTHHHHWWWWW to that, I say .
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that's a side effect of the new udev
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I've noticed that oz is now mounting the first partition of my sd card under '/media/card' 9as it should) and the second under '/media/mmcblk0p2' instead of '/media/card1' like it used to. Was this intentional? If so, PPPTTTHHHHWWWWW to that, I say .
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=128539\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
that's a side effect of the new udev
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And, is it an 'issue' that's going to be 'corrected', or is that 'just the way it is' form now on? thks
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I've noticed that oz is now mounting the first partition of my sd card under '/media/card' 9as it should) and the second under '/media/mmcblk0p2' instead of '/media/card1' like it used to. Was this intentional? If so, PPPTTTHHHHWWWWW to that, I say .
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=128539\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
that's a side effect of the new udev
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=128549\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
And, is it an 'issue' that's going to be 'corrected', or is that 'just the way it is' form now on? thks
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While the /media/$PARTITION way is more failure-proof and way easier to implement / maintain, I'll see what I can do.
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Hello,
3541 is impressive- congrats on the work. I am already sending some patches to contribute.
But I have a question : how do you play video at a good framerate on a 2.6 with a ati w100?
With mplayer and stuff, playing a video reencoded for the zaurus:
- there is no fullscreen. this could be due to -vo fbdev ? this is especially annoying with 320x240 videos !!
- the playback is too slow. The video is already perfectly encoded (no need for vf, rotation or whatever) - it is just too slow at playback.
- the cpu can't be overclocked
Ok, the w100 can be overclocked with echo 1> /sys/devices/platform/sharp-scoop/corgi-ssp/w100fb/fastpllclk but that's not enough :-/
I'm working on the last problem - I was pointed to arch/arm/mach-pxa/cpu-pxa25x.c, however it may not be enough.
Is anyone else interested/working on the problem?
Guylhem
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Hi there all
I just flashed the Akita version of the Fourth release candidate of OpenZaurus 3.5.4.1 and I set the NAND memory at 60mb and 121mb (the max) and used the OPIE image.
It looks great, but OMG is SOOOOO slow. Tediously slow infact. The "start" menu took ages to come up, apps took ages to load, everything was so sluggish.
What setting could I have set wrong?
On another note the Hentges GPE image was quick and fast and responsive on the same device.
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I just flashed the Akita version of the Fourth release candidate of OpenZaurus 3.5.4.1 and I set the NAND memory at 60mb and 121mb (the max) and used the OPIE image.
It looks great, but OMG is SOOOOO slow. Tediously slow infact. The "start" menu took ages to come up, apps took ages to load, everything was so sluggish.
What setting could I have set wrong?
On another note the Hentges GPE image was quick and fast and responsive on the same device.[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=128799\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
Do you have a sizable sd card & the doc tab enabled? If so, try turning the doc tab off (I foud that to be one of the more annoying things with opie). hth
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Do you have a sizable sd card & the doc tab enabled? If so, try turning the doc tab off (I foud that to be one of the more annoying things with opie). hth
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1GB SD Card and yes Doc Tab enabled
Why should that cripple the whole system??
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Do you have a sizable sd card & the doc tab enabled? If so, try turning the doc tab off (I foud that to be one of the more annoying things with opie). hth[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=128816\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
1GB SD Card and yes Doc Tab enabled
Why should that cripple the whole system??[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=128817\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
My experience has been that the doctab implementation was (is?) very buggy. It never worked for me, and yes, would 'cripple the whole system', at least while it was initailly loading. That was my experience. Turn off the doc tab & see it it helps.
(** DISCLAIMER ** this is coming from someone who hasn't used the latest 3.5.4. image for OPIE that much, so my opinion is based mainly on 3.5.3)
seeyah
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Do you have a sizable sd card & the doc tab enabled? If so, try turning the doc tab off (I foud that to be one of the more annoying things with opie). hth[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=128816\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
1GB SD Card and yes Doc Tab enabled
Why should that cripple the whole system??[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=128817\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
My experience has been that the doctab implementation was (is?) very buggy. It never worked for me, and yes, would 'cripple the whole system', at least while it was initailly loading. That was my experience. Turn off the doc tab & see it it helps.
(** DISCLAIMER ** this is coming from someone who hasn't used the latest 3.5.4. image for OPIE that much, so my opinion is based mainly on 3.5.3)
seeyah
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The doctab in Opie is still unusable
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From what I remember, this is because it's (Opie) single threaded and so while it scans large media, nothing else happens.
Si
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From what I remember, this is because it's (Opie) single threaded and so while it scans large media, nothing else happens.
Si
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And this happens continuously? Opie was slow for ages. Surely it should scan the media and then stop scanning them and things should move on?
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OK, that installed and works fast. BUT.... everything's microscopic on screen, how do I sort that?
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omro: rm ~/Settings/*
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when you flash various roms, how do you make sure no litter from a previous flash is left in memory somewhere?
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See hrw's post above yours.
Si
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See hrw's post above yours.
Si
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Isn't there a way to wipe clean the whole entire system memory before you try a new rom? that way there are no ghosts from other roms.
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No, nothing built into the updater.sh if that's what you mean.
The argument is that /home is quite important, and we don't want people to accidentally delete their files, just because they're flashing a new image.
You ought to be able to remove /home/* either before or after the install and it will re-create what's needed.
Si
P.S. I wonder what happens if there's no home directory for a user though...? Be careful before removing the /home/root directory itself.
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A completely different question:
Is it possible to install OZ to an SD card instead of the internal microdrive on a 3100? I realize we could turn this into a "why the hell would you want to do that?" sort of discussion. Let's say i'd rather use the higher transfer rates of the internal drive for multimedia and other stuff... or i'm just curious.
Can it be done? if so, how?
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A completely different question:
Is it possible to install OZ to an SD card instead of the internal microdrive on a 3100? I realize we could turn this into a "why the hell would you want to do that?" sort of discussion. Let's say i'd rather use the higher transfer rates of the internal drive for multimedia and other stuff... or i'm just curious.
Can it be done? if so, how?
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Sure, you just need a kernel that has 'root=/dev/mmcblk0p1' in the CONFIG_CMDLINE, a one line change in the defconfig. I've been using that on my c700 for some months now, the c3100 isn't different in that regard.
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A completely different question:
Is it possible to install OZ to an SD card instead of the internal microdrive on a 3100? I realize we could turn this into a "why the hell would you want to do that?" sort of discussion. Let's say i'd rather use the higher transfer rates of the internal drive for multimedia and other stuff... or i'm just curious.
Can it be done? if so, how?
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Sure, you just need a kernel that has 'root=/dev/mmcblk0p1' in the CONFIG_CMDLINE, a one line change in the defconfig. I've been using that on my c700 for some months now, the c3100 isn't different in that regard.
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Is such a kernel provided on the OZ site, or do I have to build OE and make a kernel myself?. (I haven't had a working OE in about a year, though I guess it would make an afternoon project)
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A completely different question:
Is it possible to install OZ to an SD card instead of the internal microdrive on a 3100? I realize we could turn this into a "why the hell would you want to do that?" sort of discussion. Let's say i'd rather use the higher transfer rates of the internal drive for multimedia and other stuff... or i'm just curious.
Can it be done? if so, how?
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Sure, you just need a kernel that has 'root=/dev/mmcblk0p1' in the CONFIG_CMDLINE, a one line change in the defconfig. I've been using that on my c700 for some months now, the c3100 isn't different in that regard.
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Is such a kernel provided on the OZ site, or do I have to build OE and make a kernel myself?. (I haven't had a working OE in about a year, though I guess it would make an afternoon project)
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Ask hrw or build it yourself, I haven't got a .oz354x buildtree at the moment.
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A completely different question:
Is it possible to install OZ to an SD card instead of the internal microdrive on a 3100? I realize we could turn this into a "why the hell would you want to do that?" sort of discussion. Let's say i'd rather use the higher transfer rates of the internal drive for multimedia and other stuff... or i'm just curious.
Can it be done? if so, how?
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Altboot can boot off SD if you really want to.
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lmao... I knew that would make somebody squeamish.
Good, I might give it a shot this week. one reason I'd like to do it all on sd is to keep easy tarball backups/restores on my server
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OZ does not touch /home/ partition
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OZ does not touch /home/ partition
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yeah... but I have a tendecy to screw up system stuff while playing around. being able to pop the sd out, backup all my installed software and links as a tarball, and being able to reverse the process in a matter of minutes.... or having parallel setups on multiple sd cards seems appealing. I'll likely come to the same conclusion you guys seem to about not doing things that way, as a rule, but for now, it looks interesting.
anyone have a package of qvfb working? that seems like fun too
edit: you wouldn't have a kernel of the sort described by koen lying around, would you?
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I have a C1000 and I've been altbooting off SD with great success. It started because I was tired of dealing with ipkg-link but one of the real benefits is being able to make backup images of the card in my desktop's card reader. dd if=/dev/sdc1 of=/home/me/sd-image.ext2 is a beautiful thing. If you haven't already tried altboot, you might want to play with that before bothering with a custom kernel. It's always nice to have altboot functionality even when your SD card isn't in the Zaurus as it gives you a lot of flexibility. Anyways, if altboot isn't doing what you want for some reason *and* you can't setup an OE build tree, I might be able to help you build the custom kernel.
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I'll give altboot a whirl and see where I end up. Sounds promising.
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See hrw's post above yours.
Si
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Isn't there a way to wipe clean the whole entire system memory before you try a new rom? that way there are no ghosts from other roms.
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The Cacko updater can erase/reformat your user partition, too, along with repartitioning NAND. FWIW, woud be nice to see a similar menu type updater.sh in OZ at some point. If no one else does it, and if I have time, I might do it.
Oh, and on the boot off of SD topic, my 5500 does exactly that with 3.5.4, and it works quite well. It is a little confusing, with two stages of altboot and two password questions being asked (once), but it works very well on my SL-5500 with a 256MB SanDisk SD containing a loopback image of 3.5.4. Read the altboot pages (linked from the openzaurus wiki; let's see, [a href=\"http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/howto/the-altboot-faq/]http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/howto/the-altboot-faq/[/url] is the page; I followed the simple howto and it worked, lickety-split.
With the C1000 it's not nearly as big of an issue as with the 5500; in fact, Hrw, boot off of SD should be the default for Collie for OZ, as, like you have said, that 16MB is awfully limiting. But I don't see why it wouldn't work just as well on Akita.
Now that I have two Akita's, my need for the Collie is pretty well gone. Before I try to eBay it (that's where I got it), does any OZ developer want it, with the 256MB SD card and 3.5.4 loaded as-is? I have a USB charging/sync cable and the cradle; I'm using the EA-70 power supply with my Akitas. I'll donate it to any OZ developer that needs it, although I might need some help with shipping (particularly to Poland, although I might try).
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http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/2006/06/17...-status-update/ (http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/2006/06/17/oz-3541-status-update/) - Small status update.
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http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/2006/06/17...-status-update/ (http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/2006/06/17/oz-3541-status-update/) - Small status update.
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hrw, that's good news.
i got 2 questions about this release.
in the release notes on the wiki, it mentions that USB networking does not work with windows. is this going to be fixed/implemented later or not at all because the developers dont have/dont like windows?
also, on the about oz page, it mentions that java support is currently only for command line apps with no GUI and GUI support is going to be added at some later stage. do you have rough estimate, like in a few weeks, or months, or years? do you know which vm it is going to be based on, ie sablevm, jamvm, or others? classpath has gtk and qt4 bindings so GPE should be relatively easily supported but opie is going to take a lot of work i guess.
thanks for any info
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Do you have a sizable sd card & the doc tab enabled? If so, try turning the doc tab off (I foud that to be one of the more annoying things with opie). hth[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=128816\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
1GB SD Card and yes Doc Tab enabled
Why should that cripple the whole system??[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=128817\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
My experience has been that the doctab implementation was (is?) very buggy. It never worked for me, and yes, would 'cripple the whole system', at least while it was initailly loading. That was my experience. Turn off the doc tab & see it it helps.
(** DISCLAIMER ** this is coming from someone who hasn't used the latest 3.5.4. image for OPIE that much, so my opinion is based mainly on 3.5.3)
seeyah
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The doctab in Opie is still unusable
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I'll like to help with the doctab code ... any pointers where I should start looking?
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I'll like to help with the doctab code ... any pointers where I should start looking?
opie.handhelds.org then go to downloads or CVS browser and grab the Opie code.
Si
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i got 2 questions about this release.
in the release notes on the wiki, it mentions that USB networking does not work with windows. is this going to be fixed/implemented later or not at all because the developers dont have/dont like windows?
One day it will be fixed but it is rather low priority - there are more important things to do. And we lack kernel hackers.
also, on the about oz page, it mentions that java support is currently only for command line apps with no GUI and GUI support is going to be added at some later stage. do you have rough estimate, like in a few weeks, or months, or years? do you know which vm it is going to be based on, ie sablevm, jamvm, or others? classpath has gtk and qt4 bindings so GPE should be relatively easily supported but opie is going to take a lot of work i guess.
We have sablevm 1.12, jamvm 1.3.2, classpath 0.17 in OZ 3.5.4.x. OE .dev branch has classpath 0.20, jamvm 1.4.2 to which we can probably upgrade OZ (if needed for someone). And I do not use Java on Zaurus so cannot help more.
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I'll like to help with the doctab code ... any pointers where I should start looking?
opie.handhelds.org then go to downloads or CVS browser and grab the Opie code.
Si
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Roger that!
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I'm thoroughly confused. Perhaps this is a good thread to post my question?
Is OZ a linux shell, if so, what does it run in the background of (pdaXrom, OZ/GPE, OZ/Opie)? From what I understand, it is the background for the "window managers" of Opie and GPE (is that the correct term?), but from the way some of the replies go, it sounds like it's a background for pdaXrom?
Also, what is the basis for Cacko?
I would be interested in anything that makes my Z (akita) perform better, right now I am running Cacko 1.23. I wouldn't mind changing that (or even dual-booting would be better), but I really need my PIM information that I synced from Outlook onto my Z (when I changed from Pocket PC).
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ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl appears to be down/unreachable for the past few days. Any idea when it will be back up?
I have mostly been able to substitute the oz.hentges.net mirrors in the meantime. However, I do not believe it contains the spitz machine feeds. I have even tried using http://oz.hentges.net/mirror/oz3.5.4/feed/machine/akita (http://oz.hentges.net/mirror/oz3.5.4/feed/machine/akita), but ipkg gives a 404 error on that. I cannot manually verify the feed addresses either, since CoreDump has (very understandably) disabled that due to traffic issues (see this readme (http://oz.hentges.net/mirror/oz3.5.4/feed/README.txt))
oz.pdai.org is listed as another mirror on OpenZaurus downloads page, but I am getting "The requested URL /official/unstable/ was not found on this server" from there. Does anyone know of any other mirrors?
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[We have sablevm 1.12, jamvm 1.3.2, classpath 0.17 in OZ 3.5.4.x. OE .dev branch has classpath 0.20, jamvm 1.4.2 to which we can probably upgrade OZ (if needed for someone). And I do not use Java on Zaurus so cannot help more.
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Oooh! Yes please, if someone (hrw???!!!) could dig out time to do that, I'd appreciate it VERY much (NOT urgent, but important )
Cheers,
zedkatuf
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I'm thoroughly confused. Perhaps this is a good thread to post my question?
Is OZ a linux shell, if so, what does it run in the background of (pdaXrom, OZ/GPE, OZ/Opie)? From what I understand, it is the background for the "window managers" of Opie and GPE (is that the correct term?), but from the way some of the replies go, it sounds like it's a background for pdaXrom?
Also, what is the basis for Cacko?
I would be interested in anything that makes my Z (akita) perform better, right now I am running Cacko 1.23. I wouldn't mind changing that (or even dual-booting would be better), but I really need my PIM information that I synced from Outlook onto my Z (when I changed from Pocket PC).
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Repeated question on couple of other threads ... OZ is the kernel, OPIE and GPE is the GUI shell that sits on OZ. pdaXrom is the kernel that runs X11 window manager, matchbox being the default.
Cacko is based on Sharp ROM (yes?).
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I'm thoroughly confused. Perhaps this is a good thread to post my question?
Is OZ a linux shell, if so, what does it run in the background of (pdaXrom, OZ/GPE, OZ/Opie)? From what I understand, it is the background for the "window managers" of Opie and GPE (is that the correct term?), but from the way some of the replies go, it sounds like it's a background for pdaXrom?
Also, what is the basis for Cacko?
I would be interested in anything that makes my Z (akita) perform better, right now I am running Cacko 1.23. I wouldn't mind changing that (or even dual-booting would be better), but I really need my PIM information that I synced from Outlook onto my Z (when I changed from Pocket PC).
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Repeated question on couple of other threads ... OZ is the kernel, OPIE and GPE is the GUI shell that sits on OZ. pdaXrom is the kernel that runs X11 window manager, matchbox being the default.
Cacko is based on Sharp ROM (yes?).
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Thanks, sounds good to me.
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I would be interested in anything that makes my Z (akita) perform better, right now I am running Cacko 1.23. I wouldn't mind changing that (or even dual-booting would be better), but I really need my PIM information that I synced from Outlook onto my Z (when I changed from Pocket PC).
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Re the PIM information, the Ka/PI, Ko/PI kdepim suite is good for synching with outlooks stuff IIRC.
I'm intending to use it once I've got my 3200 & will let u know how I get on with this.
zedkatuf
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Do Kdepim apps work in OPIE or GPE?
I really don't want to run KDE on a pda, it seems like it would be too slow.
I read in the OZ faq that many sharp rom apps are working in OPIE, is this true(other posts lead me to believe they don't work in OPIE)?
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Do Kdepim apps work in OPIE or GPE?
I really don't want to run KDE on a pda, it seems like it would be too slow.
I read in the OZ faq that many sharp rom apps are working in OPIE, is this true(other posts lead me to believe they don't work in OPIE)?
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old version of opie could run sharp rom apps since the difference wasn't that big back then, newer versions of opie, may work, may not work. so the newer the opie version, the more likely they won't work since the difference is getting bigger...
kdepim apps only use some kde libraries and don't need the full kde environment which is quite slow on the Z. there are libraries for kdepim to run in both X11 and QTe so both opie and qpe can have the latest kdepim apps compiled if they aren't yet...
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[We have sablevm 1.12, jamvm 1.3.2, classpath 0.17 in OZ 3.5.4.x. OE .dev branch has classpath 0.20, jamvm 1.4.2 to which we can probably upgrade OZ (if needed for someone).
Oooh! Yes please, if someone (hrw???!!!) could dig out time to do that, I'd appreciate it VERY much (NOT urgent, but important )[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=132455\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
Added that stuff into .oz354x (not yet pushed).
I also suggest reading oz-devel mailing list for one nice mail to users/devels.