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Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: ThC on January 11, 2006, 11:42:20 am
Hi,

So here it is, thanks to recent help from iamasmith who fixed out my concerns about power management

pdaXrom for c3000 Beta2 (http://flavien78000.free.fr/pdaXrom-c3000b2.tgz)

1) Check and decompress the pdaXrom-c3000b2.tgz to your CF or SD card

2) Ensure that your C3000 machine has a standard HD partitioning (e.g. as it was originally), booting may fail if this is not the case

3) Turn the zaurus over and flip the battery case switch to “Unlocked”. Remove the battery cover, and find the small reset microswitch on the left. The battery cover or the stylus can be used to press it.

4) Switch back to locked without puting back the battery cover yet as you'll need to reset again

5) Insert the CF card with the image in the root, as described above.

6) Plug in the AC power jack. The yellow charge lamp must be on indicating external power, or you will get an error message in japanese later.

7) Press the “OK” key and keep it pressed while pressing the “On/Off” button on the front side.

8) The Maintenance Screen will display. Choose “Update” this is item 4.

9) The next screen will ask the source, choose “CF” or "SD".

10) The next screen asks for confirmation, choose1 “Yes” this is the left button

11) now, in the pdaXrom updater menu, choose 6 - "HD Utils(C-3x000 Models only)" then 1 - "Set HD Partitions" This will format your HD and repartition it with only one 4Gb partition

12) Choose 3 - "Go back to main menu"

13 ) Choose 8 - "Restart"

14) restart from 6 to 10

15) Choose option 1 - "Install new ROM"

16) When it ask you if you want to format internal user flash : answer "No"
 
17) Choose 7 - "Install hdimage (c3000 only)" and wait as it will take a while

18) Choose 8 - Reboot and remove any CF card from your Z

This pivot_root method doesn't support any CF memory card to be inserted during boot time, this is the only "bug" I've found so far ... btw I didn't have much time to test it ...

Et voilà, you're done to test this one

as allways, pleasegive feedback about found bugs and fixings ...

(edit : the restore option from HD Utils don't fit c3100 users yet ... btw tyou can use the set partition option to format your HD to one 4Gb partition if you want , reset may be worling soon)

EDIT : edited instructions : there was an error in the order
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: pyknite on January 11, 2006, 11:44:56 am
yeah... great.. i flash in two minutes

ben ca alors, a peine le tempsde configurer mon zaurus que je dois deja tout recommencer
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: pyknite on January 11, 2006, 12:16:07 pm
ok finished download... there is a problem:

13) Choose 6 - "HD Utils(C-3x000 Models only)" then 1 - "Set HD Partitions" This will format your HD and repartition it with only one 4Gb partition

there is no hd utils... there only the install hd image (like in the rc12)
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: ThC on January 11, 2006, 12:17:50 pm
d'oh ... My mistake ... I'm uploading new updater on the serv for you then updating the image ... Will edit when ok
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: pyknite on January 11, 2006, 12:18:50 pm
thx to you
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: ThC on January 11, 2006, 12:30:57 pm
I've uploaded the new updater and the new tgz file is uploading too

sorry for people who downloaded before

Have fun
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: pyknite on January 11, 2006, 12:33:23 pm
arf, sorry, but ever no hd-utils
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: ThC on January 11, 2006, 12:37:42 pm
are you sure you did replace it well ? actually i did upload it directly from my cf from my Zaurus so it can't be the wrong one
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: pyknite on January 11, 2006, 12:39:03 pm
je suis sur que c'est un autre vu que le premier fesait 18 ko et celui la21... mais c'est mis install hdimage et non pas hd-utils
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: ThC on January 11, 2006, 12:47:49 pm
bizarre autant qu'étrange ... Flavien est en train de le tester en live avec moi par msn et il a bien le menu ... oO
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: pyknite on January 11, 2006, 12:49:42 pm
i don't know  i'm downloading the new archive... i say you later if it's work...
++
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: ThC on January 11, 2006, 12:59:31 pm
I changed the instructions as I made an error (HD Utils will work only if used first and you need to reboot between changing partitions and install os/hdimage)
Note you don't need anymore to resize nor to format user flash as we're not using it anymore
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: pyknite on January 11, 2006, 01:18:35 pm
je comprend pas... je viens de télécharger la dernière archive, et j'ai tjs pas de hd-utils
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: flavien on January 11, 2006, 01:35:33 pm
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je comprend pas... je viens de télécharger la dernière archive, et j'ai tjs pas de hd-utils
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stop to speak french please, community doesn't like that and i understand why !  

Excuse me for my poor english     i'm french  
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: ThC on January 11, 2006, 01:42:06 pm
try formating your card before copying over updated files ... or maybe try using another card (or use PM to speack french )
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: flavien on January 11, 2006, 01:57:17 pm
6, 8 (reboot) , 1, 7, 8 (reboot)

It's working ...  

X start ... enjoy

Thanks you ThC  
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: pyknite on January 11, 2006, 01:58:37 pm
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je comprend pas... je viens de télécharger la dernière archive, et j'ai tjs pas de hd-utils
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stop to speak french please, community doesn't like that and i understand why !  

Excuse me for my poor english     i'm french  
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sry... my english is very poor  i will try to make an effort
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: pyknite on January 11, 2006, 02:06:09 pm
ok... it was my fault... i haved copied all the files in my hdd3 aulieu of the sd card

i'm a boulet ...
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: chrisluu on January 11, 2006, 02:44:40 pm
So far it works pretty well. The only issue I'm having is that when I turn off/suspend the Zaurus, the hard drive light stays lit. Is this normal behavior? Can we stop it from lighting? I don't think that the hard drive is actually active.
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: flavien on January 11, 2006, 03:47:53 pm
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So far it works pretty well. The only issue I'm having is that when I turn off/suspend the Zaurus, the hard drive light stays lit. Is this normal behavior? Can we stop it from lighting? I don't think that the hard drive is actually active.
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same for me
Code: [Select]
#apmsleep +1:00Click on the On button, Then Ctrl + Z
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# psapmsleep is still in processus
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: sylpil on January 11, 2006, 03:53:08 pm
Hello,

[Moi aussi je suis français !]

Possible to install PdaXrom on SL-C3100 ? Thanks
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: flavien on January 11, 2006, 03:55:24 pm
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Possible to install PdaXrom on SL-C3100 ? Thanks
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Yes but SL-C3100 is official support
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: flavien on January 11, 2006, 03:56:22 pm
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So far it works pretty well. The only issue I'm having is that when I turn off/suspend the Zaurus, the hard drive light stays lit. Is this normal behavior? Can we stop it from lighting? I don't think that the hard drive is actually active.
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Remove the SD card, and they are no problem ... hard drive stop light.
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: ThC on January 11, 2006, 04:04:36 pm
@sylpil : would you be interrested in a pivot_root install for c3100 ? if yes, why ?
(I should make one if enough people are interrested in this one)
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: Jondalar on January 11, 2006, 04:23:01 pm
Hi guys,

I was downloading it for 1,2 hours - so I thought I put it onto my server (if you are okay THc, PM me if you do not like this!)

File can be downloaded  
HERE (http://www.zaurus-wiki.de/pdaXrom-c3000b2.tgz)

Off now to play around with it :-) Thanks a lot THC!

J*
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: desertrat on January 11, 2006, 04:36:04 pm
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@sylpil : would you be interrested in a pivot_root install for c3100 ? if yes, why ?
(I should make one if enough people are interrested in this one)

I'm interested. Presumably it would mean no more symlinking madness?

However it seems that the HDD has to be repartitioned into a single 4GB (correct me if I'm wrong as I have only been following this thread on and off). Is it not possible to retain a fat partition so that the Z can still be used as a usb-storage device for dumb windoze clients?


-- cheers
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: flavien on January 11, 2006, 04:54:11 pm
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Is it not possible to retain a fat partition so that the Z can still be used as a usb-storage device for dumb windoze clients?[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=110546\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
Yes no fat partition, Z cannot be used as a usb-storage.
Install Winscp on Windows and you can made FTP over SSH (with TCP/IP over USB).
I think every body here prefer to use TCP/IP over USB to take control of his Zaurus (SSH) than mount usb-storage like a USB-Key  
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: pyknite on January 11, 2006, 05:23:58 pm
I have a problem of mapping with xfce... (with the last version i doesn t have these problems). my fn key didnt work...so i can have all the blue key (up of the normal key, les touche bleue au dessus des touche normales)... and to have the right click i must make fn more ctrl and click...

any idee?
thx

ps i have tried some other combination of key but i didnt found
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: sven on January 11, 2006, 05:25:57 pm
Just a short feedback...

I'm successfully installed this pdaxrom image on my C3000 (but extracted the hdimage.tgz myself, because i didn't read the workaround above). Thanks.

But another problem occured if i left a memory-card in the cf-slot, the init-script tried to mount this card as root. I think this is sometimes a very welcome behaviour, but should not be the default behavour?

Thanks again for made my C3000 usefull
Sven
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: Jondalar on January 11, 2006, 05:32:50 pm
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Yes no fat partition, Z cannot be used as a usb-storage.
Install Winscp on Windows and you can made FTP over SSH (with TCP/IP over USB).
I think every body here prefer to use TCP/IP over USB to take control of his Zaurus (SSH) than mount usb-storage like a USB-Key 
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Hi Flavien,

this is something that can be overcome be using this [a href=\"http://www.fs-driver.org/]http://www.fs-driver.org/[/url] freeware driver under windows. I can access my internal ext3 partition aswell as my Z with this very fine.

But for the Linux install I would *NOT* recommend other but ext2 or ext3... The symlinking and the naming conventions of good old DOS are not appropriate for a Linux system in my eyes.

J*
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: iamasmith on January 11, 2006, 05:33:45 pm
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@sylpil : would you be interrested in a pivot_root install for c3100 ? if yes, why ?
(I should make one if enough people are interrested in this one)

I'm interested. Presumably it would mean no more symlinking madness?

However it seems that the HDD has to be repartitioned into a single 4GB (correct me if I'm wrong as I have only been following this thread on and off). Is it not possible to retain a fat partition so that the Z can still be used as a usb-storage device for dumb windoze clients?


-- cheers
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The technique of pivot_root should work regardless of the size of the /dev/hda1 partition, I think ThC has added this to the beta because a lot of people want to use the whole 4Gb for Linuxy stuff.

It should still be feasible to have additional partitions on the drive to do the usb-storage mount but selectable partition sizes obviously adds to the complexity of the installer.

One thing I will say is that with the standard partitioning you soon run out of space unless you mount /dev/hda2 onto the filesystem and configure that as an install point for package installation. I decided when I did some legwork onto the pivot_root stuff that 4Gb seemed appealing and it looks like ThC also thought that was great too.

Other options may be to manually prep the file systems manually prior to install (using a suitable version of fdisk of course) to get just the partitioning scheme required and then edit the /etc/fstab accordingly...  I'm sure that these things will be discussed more widely if the mechanism 'makes the grade'

- Andy
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: chrisluu on January 11, 2006, 11:28:51 pm
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So far it works pretty well. The only issue I'm having is that when I turn off/suspend the Zaurus, the hard drive light stays lit. Is this normal behavior? Can we stop it from lighting? I don't think that the hard drive is actually active.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=110520\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Remove the SD card, and they are no problem ... hard drive stop light.
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I've turned off the Zaurus without any cards in at all (SD or CF) and the hard drive light still stays lit. It's been that way for several hours and hasn't really lost any battery power, so I'm assuming that the hard drive isn't being used, but the light is still rather annoying. Any ideas?
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: desertrat on January 12, 2006, 12:05:09 am
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The technique of pivot_root should work regardless of the size of the /dev/hda1 partition, I think ThC has added this to the beta because a lot of people want to use the whole 4Gb for Linuxy stuff.

Good to know that there is no fundamental technical reason why a single partition has to be used.

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Other options may be to manually prep the file systems manually prior to install (using a suitable version of fdisk of course) to get just the partitioning scheme required and then edit the /etc/fstab accordingly...  I'm sure that these things will be discussed more widely if the mechanism 'makes the grade'

No problem, if it's too much bother to incorporate into the installer, then just have the user prep the HD beforehand and allow them to specify which partition to install to?

-- cheers
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: desertrat on January 12, 2006, 12:13:44 am
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Yes no fat partition, Z cannot be used as a usb-storage.
Install Winscp on Windows and you can made FTP over SSH (with TCP/IP over USB).
I think every body here prefer to use TCP/IP over USB to take control of his Zaurus (SSH) than mount usb-storage like a USB-Key 
When doing transfers between Linux and Z I usually ssh (KDE's network transparency features makes this dead easy).

But when connected to dumb windoze clients I would rather use usb-storage because support for that is builtin to recent versions of windoze and requires no configuration/setup whatsoever. Using TCP/IP over USB requires fiddling with windoze network settings -- and does windoze still require a reboot after every little change?

-- cheers
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: ThC on January 12, 2006, 02:46:57 am
@desertrat : choosing a partition would add to much complexity too (need to change some config files in the pivot_root image dynamically to do such a thing...), btw, it will automatically install on the first partition of the hard drive, which only need to be > 128Mo ...so you can partition it as you want as long as you let a first partition greater than 128Mb ... after it will just be a matter of editing your fstab after first reboot.

As for the cf in slot while booting problem : this one is a bug encountered by openembedded too ... I'm going to make some tests to see if I can get rid of this one, using some HD detection scripts as I did in the installer but I'm not sure whether the pivot_root image I borrowed from openemdded will support these scripts .

@C3100 users : I'll try to produce a testing pivot_root install soon ( will just be an update in updater.sh btw) so you can test if pivot_root is more efficient than this "symlink nightmare" some of you seem to have
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: ThC on January 12, 2006, 04:11:11 am
Could someone with a C3100 give me the output of "sfdisk -l /dev/hdc" with a standard partitionning please ?
(sfdisk should not be disponible booting on pdaXrom or cacko/sharp rom so you may need to do it while booting in with D+B or using pdaXrom's installer
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: iamasmith on January 12, 2006, 04:47:13 am
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So far it works pretty well. The only issue I'm having is that when I turn off/suspend the Zaurus, the hard drive light stays lit. Is this normal behavior? Can we stop it from lighting? I don't think that the hard drive is actually active.
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Remove the SD card, and they are no problem ... hard drive stop light.
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I've turned off the Zaurus without any cards in at all (SD or CF) and the hard drive light still stays lit. It's been that way for several hours and hasn't really lost any battery power, so I'm assuming that the hard drive isn't being used, but the light is still rather annoying. Any ideas?
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Do you have anything plugged into the Z at all when you do that? USB etc?

Could you be specific about any apps or services that you have running that may be in addition to the base build.

Strictly speaking neither of these should cause true ide suspend problems all non-kernel threads should be in the STOP state when apm kicks in and they get sent a CONT signal once things have resumed, however, we found that until syslog was moved off the hdd that suspend actually didn't suspend the hdd. (goes off to check OE patch set - I suspect that there should be a sync prior to Microdrive suspend and maybe the suspend code is timing out waiting for this to occur)

- Andy
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: desertrat on January 12, 2006, 08:20:59 am
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@desertrat : choosing a partition would add to much complexity too (need to change some config files in the pivot_root image dynamically to do such a thing...), btw, it will automatically install on the first partition of the hard drive, which only need to be > 128Mo ...so you can partition it as you want as long as you let a first partition greater than 128Mb ... after it will just be a matter of editing your fstab after first reboot.

Excellent, that's probably the most simple solution to the problem

-- cheers
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: desertrat on January 12, 2006, 08:25:00 am
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Could someone with a C3100 give me the output of "sfdisk -l /dev/hdc" with a standard partitionning please ?
(sfdisk should not be disponible booting on pdaXrom or cacko/sharp rom so you may need to do it while booting in with D+B or using pdaXrom's installer

Sorry I'm not sure what you're asking. If you're wanting to know the partitioning of the HDD as shipped by Sharp then it's:

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# fdisk -l
Disk /dev/hda: 4095 MB, 4095737856 bytes
16 heads, 63 sectors/track, 7936 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 = 516096 bytes

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1               1          20       10048+  83  Linux
/dev/hda2              21          40       10080   83  Linux
/dev/hda3              41        7936     3979584    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)

-- cheers
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: iamasmith on January 12, 2006, 08:31:38 am
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Could someone with a C3100 give me the output of "sfdisk -l /dev/hdc" with a standard partitionning please ?
(sfdisk should not be disponible booting on pdaXrom or cacko/sharp rom so you may need to do it while booting in with D+B or using pdaXrom's installer

Sorry I'm not sure what you're asking. If you're wanting to know the partitioning of the HDD as shipped by Sharp then it's:

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# fdisk -l
Disk /dev/hda: 4095 MB, 4095737856 bytes
16 heads, 63 sectors/track, 7936 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 = 516096 bytes

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1               1          20       10048+  83  Linux
/dev/hda2              21          40       10080   83  Linux
/dev/hda3              41        7936     3979584    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)

-- cheers
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Desertrat, could you repeat that please using sfdisk and not fdisk, sfdisk gives more accurate information (down to block start for partition etc).

Thanks,

- Andy
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: ScottYelich on January 12, 2006, 09:24:58 am
I hate slow downloads and although I don't normally mirror non-c7x0/860 stuff...

I put the 3000b2 here ...

http://zaurus.spy.org/feeds/3000/ (http://zaurus.spy.org/feeds/3000/)

Scott
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: desertrat on January 12, 2006, 09:45:02 am
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Desertrat, could you repeat that please using sfdisk and not fdisk, sfdisk gives more accurate information (down to block start for partition etc).

Sorry I can't    That was historic information (I saved it in case I might need in the future). My hdd doesn't look anything like that anymore  

-- cheers
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: iamasmith on January 12, 2006, 10:20:14 am
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Desertrat, could you repeat that please using sfdisk and not fdisk, sfdisk gives more accurate information (down to block start for partition etc).

Sorry I can't    That was historic information (I saved it in case I might need in the future). My hdd doesn't look anything like that anymore  

-- cheers
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Ah ok, anyone else with an SL-C3100 (default format) that can give us the output of sfdisk -l ?
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: iamasmith on January 12, 2006, 11:58:59 am
FYI: If you are experiencing problems with suspend not happening on the hdd then take note.

The FIRST thing to be put out of service by the kernel during a suspend cycle is the display, it doesn't necessarily follow that if your screen is blank that your machine is in full suspend.

There is a telltale action that occurs upon full suspend if your Z if plugged in and charging, that is the charging light will flicker off and back on when the Z hits full suspend.

I have a theory about the suspend issue but I need to talk to ThC about it, since making my initial comments about syslogd I have observed the issue with other cards plugged in and usb devices connected. - I just built myself a new Kernel and these problems are gone (I think) - I do need to discuss it with ThC though, he may already have these options set.

- Andy
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: pyknite on January 12, 2006, 12:08:07 pm
hum... i have a problem with one lib  i have this error:

error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory.

i found this post: https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=15693 (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=15693) (pinned)

but the ipk doesn't work and libstdc is already installed... what can i do?

thx
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: desertrat on January 12, 2006, 01:05:22 pm
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hum... i have a problem with one lib  i have this error:

error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory.

i found this post: https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=15693 (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=15693) (pinned)

but the ipk doesn't work and libstdc is already installed... what can i do?

After you have downloaded the attachment from that link you need to rename it to:

libstdcxx5-compat_5.0.7_armv5tel.ipk

(note the first underscore has become a hyphen)

Then you can install as normal.


-- cheers
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: iamasmith on January 12, 2006, 01:13:15 pm
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FYI: If you are experiencing problems with suspend not happening on the hdd then take note.

The FIRST thing to be put out of service by the kernel during a suspend cycle is the display, it doesn't necessarily follow that if your screen is blank that your machine is in full suspend.

There is a telltale action that occurs upon full suspend if your Z if plugged in and charging, that is the charging light will flicker off and back on when the Z hits full suspend.

I have a theory about the suspend issue but I need to talk to ThC about it, since making my initial comments about syslogd I have observed the issue with other cards plugged in and usb devices connected. - I just built myself a new Kernel and these problems are gone (I think) - I do need to discuss it with ThC though, he may already have these options set.

- Andy
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Arrgh, I'm getting the error again - even with the patches and config options set , ok, back to the Kernel source then  - man I'm going to get this fixed even if I have to write a lock on suspend so that the Z won't suspend until Slot: 1 is suspended.
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: pgas on January 12, 2006, 01:19:41 pm
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After you have downloaded the attachment from that link you need to rename it to:

libstdcxx5-compat_5.0.7_armv5tel.ipk

(note the first underscore has become a hyphen)

I have edited the post,
Thanks desertrat, I can't believe that nobody spotted this one!.

As a general rule, the forum replace - by _ in the name of the attachements, so for all packages downloaded from this forum, you should replace the _ by - in the package name (before the version number)
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: pyknite on January 12, 2006, 01:30:49 pm
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hum... i have a problem with one lib  i have this error:

error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory.

i found this post: https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=15693 (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=15693) (pinned)

but the ipk doesn't work and libstdc is already installed... what can i do?

After you have downloaded the attachment from that link you need to rename it to:

libstdcxx5-compat_5.0.7_armv5tel.ipk

(note the first underscore has become a hyphen)

Then you can install as normal.


-- cheers
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thx to you and pgas
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: cht900 on January 12, 2006, 04:42:44 pm
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Hi,

So here it is, thanks to recent help from iamasmith who fixed out my concerns about power management


Greate job~ Nice to see this new version of pdaXrom beta2~  

I have a question... Does beta2 support power management function of CF Wifi? Could I activate wifi power saving mode to extend duration of battery??  

Thanks~~
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: Holo on January 12, 2006, 05:08:46 pm
/usr/bin/usbfunction.py line 21:
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STORAGE_OPTS = ["/dec/mmdca1", "/dev/hda1"]I guess what the second item of array have wrong value. The right string is "/dec/hdc1" (for CF).

/usb/bin/looknfeel.py lines from 1014 to 1018:
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 if self.PANEL_LEFT_MARGIN != "" and int(self.PANEL_LEFT_MARGIN) >= 1 and int(self.PANEL_LEFT_MARGIN) <= 600:
    write_str = write_str + " --margin-start \"" + str(self.PANEL_LEFT_MARGIN)+ "\""

  if self.PANEL_RIGHT_MARGIN != "" and int(self.PANEL_RIGHT_MARGIN) >= 1 and int(self.PANEL_RIGHT_MARGIN) <= 600:
    write_str = write_str + " --margin-end \"" + str(self.PANEL_RIGHT_MARGIN)+ "\""
If you try to ask the matchbox-panel for help ("matchbox-panel --help") you can see what it havn't "--margin-start" or "--margin-end" options.  So when you set panel margins in "Look-n-Feel" dialog you will be confused with startx script result.  

/etc/fstab line 1:
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/dev/hda1    /mnt/cf  auto    noauto,owner    0  0It's the same problem as in 'usbfunction.py'. /dev/hda1 is not a compact flash device. I have replaced "hda1" to "hdc1".

That's all, folks!  
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: Meanie on January 13, 2006, 04:06:31 am
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/usr/bin/usbfunction.py line 21:
Code: [Select]
STORAGE_OPTS = ["/dec/mmdca1", "/dev/hda1"]I guess what the second item of array have wrong value. The right string is "/dec/hdc1" (for CF).

/usb/bin/looknfeel.py lines from 1014 to 1018:
Code: [Select]
 if self.PANEL_LEFT_MARGIN != "" and int(self.PANEL_LEFT_MARGIN) >= 1 and int(self.PANEL_LEFT_MARGIN) <= 600:
    write_str = write_str + " --margin-start \"" + str(self.PANEL_LEFT_MARGIN)+ "\""

  if self.PANEL_RIGHT_MARGIN != "" and int(self.PANEL_RIGHT_MARGIN) >= 1 and int(self.PANEL_RIGHT_MARGIN) <= 600:
    write_str = write_str + " --margin-end \"" + str(self.PANEL_RIGHT_MARGIN)+ "\""
If you try to ask the matchbox-panel for help ("matchbox-panel --help") you can see what it havn't "--margin-start" or "--margin-end" options.  So when you set panel margins in "Look-n-Feel" dialog you will be confused with startx script result.   

/etc/fstab line 1:
Code: [Select]
/dev/hda1    /mnt/cf  auto    noauto,owner    0  0It's the same problem as in 'usbfunction.py'. /dev/hda1 is not a compact flash device. I have replaced "hda1" to "hdc1".

That's all, folks! 
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actually, it depends. the external cf can be either /dev/hda or /dev/hdc. this is dynamically mapped depending on how you booted, ie with the cf inserted or not.
the first disk detected is always hda and the second disk hdc
when u boot without a cf inserted, the internal microdrive will be hda and your cf will be hdc
if you boot with the cf inserted, your removable cf will be hda and the internal disk will be hdc
thus hardcoding hda or hdc is not a good idea. the script should check which one is the internal drive dynamically, thus adding an entry in fstab is a bad idea unless you also write a script to dynamically update fstab during bootup.
given that the pivot boot pivots to the internal disk and in order for it to be booted, the cf card has to be removed during boot, but this feature might and probably will change.
i personally think that it is a good idea to allow the pivot to either boot from the internal disk and ignore the inserted cf, or boot off the cf instead for dual booting. this should be a configurable parameter.
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: Jondalar on January 13, 2006, 04:13:50 am
Hi Guys,

I am playing around with the rom for a little while and I like it nearly better than my last Opie or GPE install ...

What came to my attention - using the Wireless/LAN config tool works untill I press "OKAY" then the tools seems to reset all cardslots, incl. the Harddrive.

I got the feeling it does something like "CARDCTL STOP" on each of them and then wants to do a "CARDCTL START", which doesn't work as the whole system is on the Harddrive (which has been "stopped"). I might be wrong with the correct phrases up there, but I definately need to reboot the system after storing my network config. It is okay for now, as I simply did it once and then things are fine, but it gets quite annoying when I am on a trip next week and for each and every HotSpot I need to reboot.

Anyone Else seeing this ?

Config:

C3000
pdaXrom C3000 beta2
Netgear MA701 W-Lan (Zomax Airrunner, running PRISM-Hostap CS)

Hints/Help is more than welcome,

Cheer - J*
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: ThC on January 13, 2006, 04:14:24 am
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/usr/bin/usbfunction.py line 21:
Code: [Select]
STORAGE_OPTS = ["/dec/mmdca1", "/dev/hda1"]I guess what the second item of array have wrong value. The right string is "/dec/hdc1" (for CF).

/usb/bin/looknfeel.py lines from 1014 to 1018:
Code: [Select]
 if self.PANEL_LEFT_MARGIN != "" and int(self.PANEL_LEFT_MARGIN) >= 1 and int(self.PANEL_LEFT_MARGIN) <= 600:
    write_str = write_str + " --margin-start \"" + str(self.PANEL_LEFT_MARGIN)+ "\""

  if self.PANEL_RIGHT_MARGIN != "" and int(self.PANEL_RIGHT_MARGIN) >= 1 and int(self.PANEL_RIGHT_MARGIN) <= 600:
    write_str = write_str + " --margin-end \"" + str(self.PANEL_RIGHT_MARGIN)+ "\""
If you try to ask the matchbox-panel for help ("matchbox-panel --help") you can see what it havn't "--margin-start" or "--margin-end" options.  So when you set panel margins in "Look-n-Feel" dialog you will be confused with startx script result.   

/etc/fstab line 1:
Code: [Select]
/dev/hda1    /mnt/cf  auto    noauto,owner    0  0It's the same problem as in 'usbfunction.py'. /dev/hda1 is not a compact flash device. I have replaced "hda1" to "hdc1".

That's all, folks! 
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actually, it depends. the external cf can be either /dev/hda or /dev/hdc. this is dynamically mapped depending on how you booted, ie with the cf inserted or not.
the first disk detected is always hda and the second disk hdc
when u boot without a cf inserted, the internal microdrive will be hda and your cf will be hdc
if you boot with the cf inserted, your removable cf will be hda and the internal disk will be hdc
thus hardcoding hda or hdc is not a good idea. the script should check which one is the internal drive dynamically, thus adding an entry in fstab is a bad idea unless you also write a script to dynamically update fstab during bootup.
given that the pivot boot pivots to the internal disk and in order for it to be booted, the cf card has to be removed during boot, but this feature might and probably will change.
i personally think that it is a good idea to allow the pivot to either boot from the internal disk and ignore the inserted cf, or boot off the cf instead for dual booting. this should be a configurable parameter.
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Actually, as pivot_root init script is not managing external CF slot, CF will be hdc in all cases so he's right and it's my fault forgetting this one

I may do a multi-boot script but I'm not sure of it's utility as sharp/cacko, pdaXrom and OZ uses different libc/kernels, we'll have problems dual-booting to any of these.
A soluion would be to build a "special" OZ version against pdaXrom libc and kernel so we would be able to have a pdaXrom/OZ dual boot but I have to finish my work on the pdaXrom builder before starting to learn using BitBake.
If someone is interrested in helping me and allready know how to use a different libc / kernel in BitBake and have time to do so, please contact me and we'll talk about the possibility of makeing a dual-boot install (and, why not, haveing both on the internal MD, each one having its own 2Gb partition) or a dual-boot image and a special OZ cramfs to put on a CF ...

@Jondalar : Edit /usr/bin/network.py
line 1071 : replace "/usr/sbin/cardctl eject " by "/usr/sbin/cardctl eject 0"
line 1075 : replace "/usr/sbin/cardctl insert " by "/usr/sbin/cardctl insert 0"
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: Jondalar on January 13, 2006, 04:41:06 am
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@Jondalar : Edit /usr/bin/network.py
line 1071 : replace "/usr/sbin/cardctl eject " by "/usr/sbin/cardctl eject 0"
line 1075 : replace "/usr/sbin/cardctl insert " by "/usr/sbin/cardctl insert 0"
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That did it! Thanks THC!

J*
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: fastscirocco on January 17, 2006, 06:23:46 pm
Is this still in Beta testing or is there a new version coming out?

I really want to switch from the stock rom to PdaXrom, but due to
my "newbie" status I won't be able to debug.

Is this rom ready to be used out of the box?  


Thanks
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: ThC on January 18, 2006, 07:44:22 am
Hi,
I'm taking some rest right now and working a very little bit on remaking my builder environment as I lost everything recently ... beside, some personal problems I did put aside for a while have to be resolved so it'll take a while untill next release...

btw, this rom is ready to be used out of the box, you'll just have to modify the network.py file as described above as it seem to be the only really annoying bug so far (there are a few others bug which one can live with untill a next release, depending on his needings/capacities) and most of the bugs have been fixed in this topic so you may be able to reproduce fixes on your install

I think the better thing would be to backup your datas and try it by yourself so you can see if you can live with its bugs or if you prefer going back  

Btw I may consider making a fixed image, based on fixes provided in these lines if I get some time to do so, but don't want to make any promise as I'm not sure to have time
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: pyknite on January 18, 2006, 02:22:49 pm
just two question:

1) it's possible to map the cancel button to have the right click? (like the fn key)

2) it's possible to make a right click with a long pression of the stylus on the screen? (i try to configure this in matchbox with the mouse setting, but it disable the left click  )

thx ++
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: anonuk on January 18, 2006, 09:35:27 pm
Is there a version of the dual boot for the 3100? I would love to try it...

Here is the output of sfdisk -l  in case you still wanted it:

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Disk /dev/hdc: 7936 cylinders, 16 heads, 63 sectors/track
Units = cylinders of 516096 bytes, blocks of 1024 bytes, counting from 0

Device Boot       Start    End    #cyls        #blocks            Id          System
/dev/hdc1               0+  19          20-        10048+           83         Linux
/dev/hdc2               20   39          20         10080             83         Linux
/dev/hdc3               40  7935    7896         3979584          c          Win95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/hdc4               0    -               0                 0            0          Empty

Hope that helps, let me know if there is a way I can try this on my 3100....
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: ThC on January 19, 2006, 02:43:35 am
@anonuk : there is still no "dual boot" available as I'm still only dreaming about it and will have to recompile a whole OZ dist against pdaXrom kernel/libs so they can be dual booted well (well ... I guess I could use an actual snapshot but there would be a lot of non-working things then I guess) ...

btw, the actual pivot_root image *should* work on a 3100 with minor mods in the updater script... so if it's the pivot_root you want to test, let me know and I'll send you an updated updater script (keep in mind I won't be able to test it to any extent as I don't have any 3100 to test with)

ps : I'm also thinking of (and talking with iamasmith about this) makeing a pdaXrom/OpenBSD dualboot if enough people gets some interrest into it ...
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: anonuk on January 19, 2006, 03:02:08 am
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@anonuk : there is still no "dual boot" available as I'm still only dreaming about it and will have to recompile a whole OZ dist against pdaXrom kernel/libs so they can be dual booted well (well ... I guess I could use an actual snapshot but there would be a lot of non-working things then I guess) ...

btw, the actual pivot_root image *should* work on a 3100 with minor mods in the updater script... so if it's the pivot_root you want to test, let me know and I'll send you an updated updater script (keep in mind I won't be able to test it to any extent as I don't have any 3100 to test with)

ps : I'm also thinking of (and talking with iamasmith about this) makeing a pdaXrom/OpenBSD dualboot if enough people gets some interrest into it ...
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pivot root would be great, i have something similar working on my 860 (see sig) but it had a few problems (mouse alignment and suspend) and I also had no hard disk to play with :-)

if you could mail me the script to       realitygaps at  yahoo.com     that would be great, or post it as an attachment for others to download in the future. One thing, can it (the script) brick my Z?, i am experienced with linux and zauruses but not with the hdd.. Thanks in advance...
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: ThC on January 19, 2006, 03:17:21 am
the "few" problems you experimented are all normal with actual dual boot methods as diferent Zaurus OSes use different kernels/libs as I was telling in my precedent posts...
Beside, this install simply won't work to create a dual boot as installer in canging initrd image with a pivot_root only image so you won't be able to boot cacko anymore.
I suggest you take a look at my topic about dual booting pdaXrom on a c3000 (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=13560&hl=dual+boot) and try to apply it using a more recent snapshot. (the hdimage.tgz included in the actual installer for c3000 is more or less a 1.1.0beta1 snapshot so you may use it if you want  )

the dual bot I'm now trying to achieve will be a little more evolved as t would allow us to  keep multiple OSes on HD partitions, choosing the one to boot during boot time, like any other comp.  (btw, I must admit that most of my ideas toward realizing a true multi boot management are scaring me so I don't have guts to test half of these ... too afraid of bricking my Z dd'ing a new kernel to /dev/mtdblock1 during boot process for example lol)
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: anonuk on January 19, 2006, 03:22:40 am
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Beside, this install simply won't work to create a dual boot as installer in canging initrd image with a pivot_root only image so you won't be able to boot cacko anymore.
I suggest you take a look at my topic about dual booting pdaXrom on a c3000 (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=13560&hl=dual+boot) and try to apply it using a more recent snapshot. (the hdimage.tgz included in the actual installer for c3000 is more or less a 1.1.0beta1 snapshot so you may use it if you want  )

Sorry, didn't see the other thread - but the link to the init script is dead do you have a copy? and would i be able to use the same one anyways with a 3100? I should probably post on the other thread and stop hijacking this one. I guess we keep dreaming about a real dual boot - or maybe i will try to master building oz and help :-)


UPDATE: found script on thread... didnt read it properly..
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: ThC on January 19, 2006, 03:28:47 am
Yes, the scripts should just work on a 3100  (3000 and 3100 are not that different )
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: pyknite on January 19, 2006, 03:50:54 pm
no idea for my problem with right click?
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: Meanie on January 20, 2006, 07:55:53 pm
I have finally gotten my C3000 back and installed pdaXrom on it. Now I will be able to help out here
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: pyknite on January 23, 2006, 02:20:57 pm
euh just one question: how to have access to the hard drive with the usb cable??

I want to copy some video and mp3 in my Z...
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: ThC on January 24, 2006, 03:55:30 am
@pyknite : using usb network and samba ... btw sorry but I don't have time to document it right now (but you should find some docs on how to do it searching on the forum )
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: pyknite on January 24, 2006, 07:22:40 am
oki thx... I will try...
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: Meanie on January 24, 2006, 08:33:54 am
Here's a few fixes I made on my C3000:

# fix cardservices cannot find modules error during boot (doesnt do much but the annoying error goes away
mkdir -p /media/realroot/lib/modules/2.4.20

# automatically launch X if runlevel 5
head -`wc -l /etc/rc.d/rc|awk '{print $1-1}'` /etc/rc.d/rc > /etc/rc.d/rc.new
echo "if [ \$runlevel -eq 5 ]; then" >> /etc/rc.d/rc.new
echo "   export HOME=/home/root" >> /etc/rc.d/rc.new
echo "   /usr/X11R6/bin/startx" >> /etc/rc.d/rc.new
echo "fi" >> /etc/rc.d/rc.new
echo "exit 0" >> /etc/rc.d/rc.new
mv /etc/rc.d/rc.new /etc/rc.d/rc

# usb storage --> scratch this one, see my next post for a better fix!!!
mv /usr/bin/usbfunction.py /usr/bin/usbfunction.py.bak
sed -e "s#[\"/dev/mmcda1\",\"/dev/hda1\"]#[\"/dev/mmcda1\",\"/dev/hda1\,\"/dev/hdc1\"]#g" /usr/bin/usbfunction.py.bak > /usr/bin/usbfunction.py

# cardctl fix for wifi
mv /usr/bin/network.py /usr/bin/network.py.bak
sed -e "s#/usr/sbin/cardctl eject #/usr/sbin/cardctl eject 0#g" -e "s#/usr/sbin/cardctl insert #/usr/sbin/cardctl insert 0#g" /usr/bin/network.py.bak > /usr/bin/network.py

# enable fsck during boot
cd /media/realroot/lib
cp /lib/libblkid.so.1.0 .
ln -s libblkid.so.1.0 libblkid.so.1
cp /lib/libuuid.so.1.2 .
ln -s libuuid.so.1.2 libuuid.so.1
cp /lib/libext2fs.so.2.4 .
ln -s libext2fs.so.2.4 libext2fs.so.2
cp /lib/libcom_err.so.2.1 .
ln -s libcom_err.so.2.1 libcom_err.so.2
cd /media/realroot/sbin
cp /sbin/fsck .
cp /sbin/e2fsck .
ln -s e2fsck fsck.ext2
ln -s e2fsck fsck.ext3

# update init (pivot)
cp init.txt /media/realroot/sbin/init
chmod 755 /media/realroot/sbin/init

# update halt (reboot) --> see my next post for a better solution!!!
mv /etc/rc.d/rc6.d/K94pcmcia /etc/rc.d/rc6.d/_K94pcmcia
cp halt.txt /etc/rc.d/init.d/halt
chmod 755 /etc/rc.d/init.d/halt

The updated halt script attempts to unmount everything cleanly, however, / refuses to remount as ro so the result is two orphaned inodes

The updated init script can now boot and pivot even if there is an inserted cf card. It also does a fsck on the internal disk before mounting it to fix the uncleanly unmounted filesystem. From my testing, this will allow the C3000 to be suspended without the light staying on.

note: see my next post, the reboot thing works now with a clean remount of /
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: danboid on January 24, 2006, 03:54:03 pm
I know Thc said he'd try to put up a bugfixed beta2- did it happen? If Thc isn't free to work on the next release it would be great if Meanie or someone could put together such a file- just save me the effort of typing a few extra commands    I can't wait to try this next release of the pdaxrom psx emu y'see!
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: ThC on January 25, 2006, 06:18:35 am
Thx meanie for all these fixes ... I'm going to try and take some time to get all these fixed in my install image and make a new one without all these bugs ... I hope to have it done by the end of the week but, once again, don't want to make false hope to you all so I can't promise anything but I'll really try to get time to do that
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: pyknite on January 25, 2006, 10:31:40 am
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Here's a few fixes I made on my C3000:


# usb storage
mv /usr/bin/usbfunction.py /usr/bin/usbfunction.py.bak
sed -e "s#[\"/dev/mmcda1\",\"/dev/hda1\"]#[\"/dev/mmcda1\",\"/dev/hda1\,\"/dev/hdc1\"]#g" /usr/bin/usbfunction.py.bak > /usr/bin/usbfunction.py


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this  make the hd usb storage working??
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: Meanie on January 26, 2006, 11:12:42 pm
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Quote
Here's a few fixes I made on my C3000:


# usb storage
mv /usr/bin/usbfunction.py /usr/bin/usbfunction.py.bak
sed -e "s#[\"/dev/mmcda1\",\"/dev/hda1\"]#[\"/dev/mmcda1\",\"/dev/hda1\,\"/dev/hdc1\"]#g" /usr/bin/usbfunction.py.bak > /usr/bin/usbfunction.py


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this  make the hd usb storage working??
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I've made a better fix to the usbfunction.py which will enable it to detect the internal harddisk correctly even if the C3000 was booted with a CF card inserted.
I also found the culprit file that prevents the halt script from remounting / as ro and hangs the pcmcia during reboot. ide.opts causes this so I have fixed ide.opts to behave and it now will also mount an  external cf card automatically when it is inserted so the link to K94pcmcia  can be changed back so it gets executed during reboot.

Here are the fixed ide.opts, usbfunction.py and halt
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: Glorin on January 27, 2006, 06:32:07 pm
Tnx Meanie.

But i have some problem, after halt (suspend) mode my zaurus wake up, but not respond to any command if CF ethernet card inserted.

Sorry my english poor i`m from russia
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: bcom75 on January 27, 2006, 08:42:37 pm
pardon the simple question, I had followed ThC's earlier instructions on dual booting pdaxrom and cacko, so I have a EXT2 hda3 partition. Could anyone tell me how I can restore the partitions to the Sharp stock configuration, prior to flashing in the rom on my c3000? Also, should I perform this step from cacko?
many thanks!
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: iamasmith on January 28, 2006, 04:49:23 am
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pardon the simple question, I had followed ThC's earlier instructions on dual booting pdaxrom and cacko, so I have a EXT2 hda3 partition. Could anyone tell me how I can restore the partitions to the Sharp stock configuration, prior to flashing in the rom on my c3000? Also, should I perform this step from cacko?
many thanks!
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I believe that the latest updater that ThC produced has an option to restore an SL-C3000 (with standard Microdrive fitted) to default partition sizes.

- Andy
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: bcom75 on January 28, 2006, 06:39:47 am
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Quote
pardon the simple question, I had followed ThC's earlier instructions on dual booting pdaxrom and cacko, so I have a EXT2 hda3 partition. Could anyone tell me how I can restore the partitions to the Sharp stock configuration, prior to flashing in the rom on my c3000? Also, should I perform this step from cacko?
many thanks!
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I believe that the latest updater that ThC produced has an option to restore an SL-C3000 (with standard Microdrive fitted) to default partition sizes.

- Andy
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cheers for that, another question, should I just extract the initial tgz or must hdimage.tgz be extracted manually too to the CF root?
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: ThC on January 28, 2006, 06:51:09 am
the installer won't restore the original content of HD ... btw I have the project of producing an updater script which will be able to restore a c3000 to factory state (would just be a matter of producing another hdimage.tgz with original hdd content) ... btw, such a file can be found using the search feature for a topic about c3000 restore from scratch, with instructions on how to use it

btw, after resizing the partitions to default, you could also use directly the cacko installer which will restore hdd content with it's own , or, if you wanted to install my pdaxrom beta, just continue with my installer, extracting only the first tgz file to your CF root
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: bcom75 on January 28, 2006, 07:02:45 am
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the installer won't restore the original content of HD ... btw I have the project of producing an updater script which will be able to restore a c3000 to factory state (would just be a matter of producing another hdimage.tgz with original hdd content) ... btw, such a file can be found using the search feature for a topic about c3000 restore from scratch, with instructions on how to use it

btw, after resizing the partitions to default, you could also use directly the cacko installer which will restore hdd content with it's own , or, if you wanted to install my pdaxrom beta, just continue with my installer, extracting only the first tgz file to your CF root
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thanks for the reply. Can I just format the ext2 back to FAT32 in cacko and carry on with your instructions? or is there more to it? please provide me with the necessary command if i only need to do that...
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: ThC on January 28, 2006, 07:10:16 am
I dont exactly understand what you are trying to achieve ... are you still trying to dual boot ? if so, maybe you could PM me and tell me what problems you had the first time
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: bcom75 on January 28, 2006, 07:48:22 am
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I dont exactly understand what you are trying to achieve ... are you still trying to dual boot ? if so, maybe you could PM me and tell me what problems you had the first time
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no, I want to wipe everything away and keep only the Pdaxrom. The only change to my original configuration is that I had formatted hda3 to EXT2 to be able to dual boot. But I want to remove that and have a nice new installation of c3000b2. So, do I need to do anything before proceeding with your instructions?
thanks
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: ThC on January 28, 2006, 08:57:56 am
then you don't have to do anything, the hdd resize utility won't check for original partitions (that's why it's only compatible with standard internal hdd at the moment) so you just have to follow the instructions at start of the post and then to apply meanies instructions to patch all files that need to be patched and you're done
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: Meanie on January 29, 2006, 10:44:54 pm
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Tnx Meanie.

But i have some problem, after halt (suspend) mode my zaurus wake up, but not respond to any command if CF ethernet card inserted.

Sorry my english poor i`m from russia
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i don't have a cf ethernet card but it should be similar to a cf wifi card. did you do the fix for cardctl in my earlier post?
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: Glorin on January 30, 2006, 03:49:57 am
Strange, i not found it changes.
I use your sed for network.py, but not  check result, my fault.
Tnx
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: pyknite on February 02, 2006, 02:49:00 pm
how can i restore the default partition to install a the cacko??

Itry in the installer menu "restore default factory partition" but when it boot for the first time the cacko, it said me that it can mount hdd3
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: ArchiMark on February 02, 2006, 05:17:46 pm
Do I understand correctly that this allows for a dual boot; pdaXrom and Qtopia?

If so, then YES, I'd be very interested!

Have been trying to install dual boot for pdaXrom and Qtopia on my 3100 using instructions on other post in this forum by 'someonehoi' but having problems getting it to work right.

Thanks,

Mark


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@sylpil : would you be interrested in a pivot_root install for c3100 ? if yes, why ?
(I should make one if enough people are interrested in this one)
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Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: pyknite on February 04, 2006, 05:55:27 am
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how can i restore the default partition to install a the cacko??

Itry in the installer menu "restore default factory partition" but when it boot for the first time the cacko, it said me that it can mount hdd3
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no idea???
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: pyknite on February 04, 2006, 06:41:45 am
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how can i restore the default partition to install a the cacko??

Itry in the installer menu "restore default factory partition" but when it boot for the first time the cacko, it said me that it can mount hdd3
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ok resolved (thx THC  )

use the hd utils in the flash menu and use restore defaults partition factory

next open the console and type

#mke2fs /dev/hda2
#mkfs.vfat /dev/hda3

and after that when you install cacko, all will be good
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: KA6AH on February 11, 2006, 01:54:35 am
Hello,

I've patched networkpy, but still have very similar problems when trying to setup bluetooth ppp connection from menu system tools/ppp modem (make connect via bluetooth). After I press 'apply' my zaurus hangs exactly as if cardctl eject was issued. I've searched all other python files, but did not found another cardctl eject operator there. Seems as if it is hardcoded into the ppp modem applet, or did I missed something

PS OMG, after installing mb applet keypanel russian (and shitched russian and back to english) my minus and dot keys are not working anymore
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: Glorin on February 12, 2006, 03:20:22 pm
Applet work good, just need plug bluetooth device, if u already have phone`s mac post in to DUN or wait few minutes. If it not work PM me i help

Need comment few strings (silkscreen - keycode 118-122) in /etc/X11/kb/akita.xmodmap.
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: jrd154 on February 23, 2006, 09:37:52 am
Quote
Quote
how can i restore the default partition to install a the cacko??

Itry in the installer menu "restore default factory partition" but when it boot for the first time the cacko, it said me that it can mount hdd3
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ok resolved (thx THC  )

use the hd utils in the flash menu and use restore defaults partition factory

next open the console and type

#mke2fs /dev/hda2
#mkfs.vfat /dev/hda3

and after that when you install cacko, all will be good
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I was trying this very thing with a compact flash card, and noticed that the commands should be

#mke2fs -j /dev/hdc2        <- Note the '-j' option
#mkfs.vfat /dev/hdc3

As the compact flash is mounted as /dev/hda and the microdrive is /dev/hdc

I guess this might be different if you use SD?

P.S. Thanks for posting this trick, it was (almost ) exactly what I was looking for
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: bonkura on February 25, 2006, 10:43:05 am
I wasnt sure if I should add a new thread about this or put it here, I put it here, hope it will be ok...

I decided to try pdaxrom on my c3000 and intalled the beta2 from this thread, I did the cardctl fix that meanie posted since i was not sure if that was in the beta2 or not.

My problem is my wifi doesnt work, I have the Asus spacelink WL-110 card, this card worked with sharp rom and with debian.

I try to use the Network setup program to set it up, first time it came up, I entered the details but it just hanged. and now it will not even start...
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: al_do on February 27, 2006, 04:57:36 am
Hi all.

I am a proud owner of a sl-c3000 and I'm looking for the best rom for my needs... (keep in mind I'm not a linux guru....)

basically I need a good PIM with an easy GUI, the possibility to sync appointment with my PC and to share files, and a text editor (word-compliant whould be better).
(secondary needs are a media player, a spreadsheet, some playable games, and an usable pdf reader)

I first tryed OZ... I like its pim and it easily sync on my PC, but it lacks other apps I'd like to use on a pda...

SO decided to migrate to pdax.. (tx to Thc!)

it's good too and I was able to configure my wifi card without problems...

But here come questions....
- wich feed sould I use (or feeds)
- is there a good PIM (heard once of a graphical pim with a visualization like a tree but I can't remember WHERE in the forum)
- and a working browser (tryed firefox but it doesn't work)
- some games (anyone complied a MAME port ?  )
- how can I sync (PIM and share files) to my PC....

I thank you in advance...
bye
alessandro (IT)
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: ThC on February 27, 2006, 08:30:13 am
Hi,

You'll need to use pdaXrom's 1.1beta1 feeds (general and c1000-3100 specifics) ... that's probably why firefox doesn't work for you  You should find whatever you need there (else it's probably in the forums... )
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: Meanie on February 27, 2006, 09:09:57 am
I have started a page for customising and configuring pdaXrom. It's very early stages and will be updated once I have done more stuff with it but here's what's there so far: http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/custom-pdaxrom.html (http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/custom-pdaxrom.html)
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: Glorin on February 27, 2006, 03:41:08 pm
Then i connect to my zaurus using ssh and while i scroll file opened using vim, vim hang.
Somebody know how fix it ?
P.S. only with usb networking
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: KA6AH on February 28, 2006, 10:51:51 pm
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Applet work good, just need plug bluetooth device, if u already have phone`s mac post in to DUN or wait few minutes. If it not work PM me i help [div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=114578\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
What do I do:
- Install pdaxrom for c3000beta2, apply patches from Meanie
- startx, going to System tools -> PPP Modem
- create bluetooth connection, phone's MAC is found automatically
- After I press "apply", it hangs exactly as if cardctl eject was issued - HDD led is on and I still can move mouse, but nothing more..
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: Glorin on March 01, 2006, 03:00:17 am
Try create IrDA connection, Apply it close ppp config open again choose already created connection and change it to BlueTooth, i check twise must work
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: mbaush on March 01, 2006, 07:09:39 pm
I'm having the following problem: I can't see the taskbar and I can't launch any application.

the best have been freezing alot on me..

Anyone has the same problems? Any solutions?

Also, how can I restore the partitions to be able to reinstall cacko?

Thanks!
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: pyknite on March 04, 2006, 04:02:40 pm
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Quote
Quote
how can i restore the default partition to install a the cacko??

Itry in the installer menu "restore default factory partition" but when it boot for the first time the cacko, it said me that it can mount hdd3
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=113431\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]


ok resolved (thx THC  )

use the hd utils in the flash menu and use restore defaults partition factory

next open the console and type

#mke2fs /dev/hda2
#mkfs.vfat /dev/hda3

and after that when you install cacko, all will be good
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=113634\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]


I was trying this very thing with a compact flash card, and noticed that the commands should be

#mke2fs -j /dev/hdc2        <- Note the '-j' option
#mkfs.vfat /dev/hdc3

As the compact flash is mounted as /dev/hda and the microdrive is /dev/hdc

I guess this might be different if you use SD?

P.S. Thanks for posting this trick, it was (almost ) exactly what I was looking for
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yes I was using a SD card...
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: scheck.r on March 04, 2006, 05:51:27 pm
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- is there a good PIM (heard once of a graphical pim with a visualization like a tree but I can't remember WHERE in the forum)
- and a working browser (tryed firefox but it doesn't work)
- some games (anyone complied a MAME port ?  )
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=116221\")
PIM: KDE-PIM 2.2.7 with kopi-apm for alarms,
        fltdj, jpilot, gpe-calendar,
        gpe-contacts, dlume,
        gpe-todo, qtodo, gtodo
Note Taking: Notecase, [a href=\"https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=15730&hl=notes]Tuxcards Stickynotes[/url]  ,                 portabase,           IQnotes (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=16847&hl=notes), freenoteQT, vym
Post-It: Stickynotes, Xpad,
Firefox works
My prefered Games: snes9x, gsoko, gweled, lbreakout2, lmarbles, scummvm, frozen bubble, supertux

NoteCase,Xpad,Grisbi,Leafpad,Cire,JPilot (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=16816&hl=notes)

and for sure http://mail.pdaxrom.org/contrib/ (http://mail.pdaxrom.org/contrib/) and the   feeds of course (for cxxxx and c7x0-860)
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: danboid on March 06, 2006, 08:28:32 am
I see pdaxrom 1.1.0b2 has been released now- can we expect a new C3000 beta based on this soon Thc?

Can't wait!

Thanks,

dan
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: Meanie on March 06, 2006, 08:53:27 pm
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I see pdaxrom 1.1.0b2 has been released now- can we expect a new C3000 beta based on this soon Thc?

Can't wait!

Thanks,

dan
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Yep, that would be really great. However, I really would like the option that was discussed before to allow manual partitioning of the microdrive before installation. I really like to have 3 partitions, one for pdaXrom root and user partition, one for swap and one for usbstorage, ie a fat partition.
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: danboid on March 07, 2006, 04:32:49 am
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Yep, that would be really great. However, I really would like the option that was discussed before to allow manual partitioning of the microdrive before installation. I really like to have 3 partitions, one for pdaXrom root and user partition, one for swap and one for usbstorage, ie a fat partition.
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I second that! I really want pdaxrom but its essential for me to have a fat/ usb partition. I tried the C3000 beta1 and it didn't have an option under the PC link tool to mount a FAT microdrive partition as the USB disk, it was only CF or SD. I hope this will be fixed too.
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: ThC on March 07, 2006, 08:12:28 am
Hi,
Sorry for not giving much support recently but I don't have much time to work on this project right now as I got back to my studies which I have to pay so I need to work on my free time  (I didn't even had time to restore my build system since I lost all my work ... :/ )
btw I still have some of the things I did on another comp and I'll try to make another test release based on this beta2.
For the partitioning concern, the problem is that the partitioning is handled by sfdisk actually, which needs to know precisely the disk parameters. So I don't really know right now how to handle partitions for all the people out there who changed their microdrive with a 1Gb CF card or whatever ... (that's why partitioning is under a different menu and the install will work even if you don't do it or repartition by yourself)
@Danboid : I'd also need someone who knows Python better than me to fix this one, not ime to learn python right now to fix it for next release
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: Meanie on March 07, 2006, 09:03:16 am
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Hi,
Sorry for not giving much support recently but I don't have much time to work on this project right now as I got back to my studies which I have to pay so I need to work on my free time  (I didn't even had time to restore my build system since I lost all my work ... :/ )
btw I still have some of the things I did on another comp and I'll try to make another test release based on this beta2.
For the partitioning concern, the problem is that the partitioning is handled by sfdisk actually, which needs to know precisely the disk parameters. So I don't really know right now how to handle partitions for all the people out there who changed their microdrive with a 1Gb CF card or whatever ... (that's why partitioning is under a different menu and the install will work even if you don't do it or repartition by yourself)
@Danboid : I'd also need someone who knows Python better than me to fix this one, not ime to learn python right now to fix it for next release
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Python isn't that hard from what I've seen. I have never touched python before but I was able to fix the usbnetwork.py so that it would allow the internal microdrive to be be selected as a mountable usb disk. I was not able to mount it from my windows laptop, but when I connected it to my other Zaurus, it worked with the C3000 with pdaXrom as the USB client and my other C3100 as the USB hosts, I was able to mount the disk.
 
And thanks for all your work so far.
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: danboid on March 08, 2006, 04:42:54 am
I'd forgot about you losing all your data Thc- bad sheey indeed! So you never sent your changes to sashz or anyone else? Why not? I presumed that this is what was going on before and thats how sashz was able to help you get it going. I also thought that most of the problems in porting it to the C3000 would've been solved and that maybe sashz could release betas for us to test, even if he can't test them himself.

I wouldn't worry too much about being able to support all those who have modded their C3000 microdrive- there can't be that many people who have such a setup. Besides, everything is still beta at the moment so we can't expect too much. Lets just get it working well on a standard C3000 first! Unfortunately I don't know python but there has to be a C3000 owner who knows python who'd be willing to help out on this board- there seems to be a lot of pdaxrom using programmers here.
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: ThC on March 09, 2006, 04:16:18 am
unfortunately, sashz helped me a lot indeed, but mainly in working out the build system to be able to build the whole thing, so I didn't sent him much things while I was working ... btw I have a bakup of the files I had edited in the builder so I hope it won't be too long to have another dev environement up and running again (now need to make some room on my laptop to set it up, as I won't be using a pdax86 image located on an external hard drive anymore ...that's how I did lose everything ... having all my dev environment on a REV cartridge and VMware f***ing everything :/)
BTW, i really hope to have it up and running again very soon so i'd be able to produce a few more betas and send all my work to sashz (I must admit I didn't sent him anything before my crash because, knowing he's very busy with the pdaXrom dev, I wanted to give him something polished which wouldn't need any further work from him)

edit : as of programmers using pdaXrom, 2 of them helped a little bit but one of them don't have a c3000, while the other one finally switched to openBSD after giving me the pivot_root idea.

edit2 : (status update ) i'll try to work my next beta with a 2.6 kernel based bootstrap using kexec to load pdaXrom, which could allow us to have some real multi-boot as being able to load any kernel at boot time  (still have to make some tests though ...)

edit3 : if anyone want to speed up the process to a next beta, please someone try to compile a 1.1.0beta2 kernel for c3000 as I still have everything I need to work on making an image, but won't have time to set up a new dev environment (freeing space etc ...) before my next holidays, while I could work during my little free times in the meanwhile on a new beta image if I had a working 1.1.0beta2 kernel
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: Reaper on March 09, 2006, 04:29:14 am
With a little help from guys from hpc.ru I've managed to reflash c3000 Beta2 onto CF card (mine is 1 Gb TS1GCF45), instead of slow and power-hungry MD. Just copy files to SD card, reflash NAND and kernel, run the console and type:

mke2fs -j /dev/hda1

mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /hdd1

cd /

gzip -cd /mnt/card/hdimage.tgz | tar xvf -

reboot

There are some minor bugs (keyboard mapping is a bit weird, CPU config doesn't run etc.), but it works and it's really faster than with MD.
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: bonkura on March 09, 2006, 02:39:42 pm
Im having problems getting my usb mouse and keyboard to work with the beta2. Both have worked before under qtopia. The following happens>

if I plug the usbmouse directly to the zaurus, it works fine
if I plug the usbmouse into my 4 port kensington usb 2.0 hub, it does not work at all
the keyboard works both plugged into the hub or directly to the zaurus, but it works better when plugged into the hub. But when it is plugged into the hub i get repeating keys, ie: if I press "K" it will write "KKKKKKKK". thats the only problem when it is plugged into the hub, but if i plug it directly to the zaurus then the keymapping will be completely off, totally random.

Im now using my usb mouse directly to the zaurus and its great to have, it makes it feel so much more like a mini laptop. But its annoying not being able to write on my keyboard.

Is there anyway to reduce the sensitivity of the keys so they dont repeat as much?

(Im running a C3000 with pdaxrom)

thanks!
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: Glorin on March 09, 2006, 04:51:12 pm
use 1.1 usb hub
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: danboid on March 09, 2006, 07:41:08 pm
Thanks for that reply Thc- it was as thorough as i could hope for  

Did you say we might get a 2.6 kernel in your next beta release!?! This is BIG NEWS!!! I mustn't get too hyped yet i suppose as it sounds like you're busy and have got a big job ahead of you putting this back together. At least it should be easier second time through eh?

Now we just need those mythical pdaxrom Koffice and k3b packages- has anybody found KDE devel packages fo this new pdaxrom? kword is the only other real good word processor that we could run on the Z, MUCH faster/lighter than Ooo writer. When I install pdaxrom for my dad and give him his new pocket workstation I'd like it to have a viable alternative should he not like Abiword or if Abiword acts up.

Reaper- is that so? What make and model SD card are you using? What is the max speed SD card the C3000 supports? What is the average data transfer to/from SD as compared to the MD?

Has everbody seen that the C3200 has been announced? Very disappointing- just 2GB bigger microdrive
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: bonkura on March 09, 2006, 07:59:00 pm
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use 1.1 usb hub
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Is there a known issue with USB 2.0 hubs not working with pdaxrom?

Tho my usb keyboard still doesnt work correctly if I plug it directly to the zaurus, does anyone know how to prevent the repeating keys problem?
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: Reaper on March 10, 2006, 10:06:50 pm
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Reaper- is that so? What make and model SD card are you using? What is the max speed SD card the C3000 supports? What is the average data transfer to/from SD as compared to the MD?
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Actually, I've just replaced MD with CFI flash card, Transcend 1GCF45. I was talking about flashing NAND and unzipping hdimage.tgz off SD/MMC card, not about using SD/MMC as a complete replacement for the MD. I tried to reflash from 2 cards ( Kingston Elite Pro 1 Gb SD and Digitex 1 Gb MMC), both seemed to work more or less correctly in this matter. My regular and preferred one is Kingston, and i'm going to upgrade both SD and CF cards in my Z to larger and quicker ones. Some day, maybe...

BTW, one more strangeness with my "kitchen reflashing": XMMS sometimes loads up CPU to 100% and begins to play approx. 2 times slower. Noticed on some tracks, usually comes off after reboot, but not for long.
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: Glorin on March 11, 2006, 06:42:17 am
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use 1.1 usb hub
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Is there a known issue with USB 2.0 hubs not working with pdaxrom?

Tho my usb keyboard still doesnt work correctly if I plug it directly to the zaurus, does anyone know how to prevent the repeating keys problem?
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It`s work only with 1 usb device problems with power supply
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: DaddyGeek on March 12, 2006, 12:27:55 am
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use 1.1 usb hub
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=117819\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Is there a known issue with USB 2.0 hubs not working with pdaxrom?

Tho my usb keyboard still doesnt work correctly if I plug it directly to the zaurus, does anyone know how to prevent the repeating keys problem?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=117830\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

It`s work only with 1 usb device problems with power supply
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Is this still the case if you use a powered USB hub?
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: bonkura on March 12, 2006, 07:52:40 am
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Is there a known issue with USB 2.0 hubs not working with pdaxrom?

Tho my usb keyboard still doesnt work correctly if I plug it directly to the zaurus, does anyone know how to prevent the repeating keys problem?
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It`s work only with 1 usb device problems with power supply
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Is this still the case if you use a powered USB hub?
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It did, however, work perfectly under Qtopia with sharp-rom when plugged into the hub, also under debian...
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: ThC on March 12, 2006, 05:38:17 pm
@Danboid : I don't think 2.6 kernel is mature enough for Cxxxx models (no sound support yet etc ...) I'm only planning to use it as a bootloader so we would be able to load pdaXrom's 2.4.20 kernel (and possibly cacko's one or whatever kernel we want to use with any rom we want to use )
Unfortunately, I'm not able to help in kernel development so we must wait for OE team to finish it (or join them to help them )
Some improvement I may bring to this beta may be an Xorg server by default (if I can get my dev env. ready and compile it well for Cxxxx)
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: Meanie on March 12, 2006, 06:32:51 pm
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@Danboid : I don't think 2.6 kernel is mature enough for Cxxxx models (no sound support yet etc ...) I'm only planning to use it as a bootloader so we would be able to load pdaXrom's 2.4.20 kernel (and possibly cacko's one or whatever kernel we want to use with any rom we want to use )
Unfortunately, I'm not able to help in kernel development so we must wait for OE team to finish it (or join them to help them )
Some improvement I may bring to this beta may be an Xorg server by default (if I can get my dev env. ready and compile it well for Cxxxx)
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I rather prefer it if you do not deviate too much from the mainstream pdaXrom distro. I thought the idea was to be the same as the mainstream pdaXrom so it can be eventually integrated to be part of it?
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: danboid on March 12, 2006, 06:35:18 pm
Sound isn't working? I've not tried the latest OZ kernel myself but I did ask about C3000 support and I got this response off JohnX a couple of months ago

https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=16551&st=30 (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=16551&st=30)

Even back then he said that sound, suspend, touchscreen and keyboard were all working. If thats true I'd imagine the Cxx00 are pretty much fully supported by 2.6 now.

X.org would be great, but would that not break compatibility with all the packages in the current pdaxrom feed that use the X libs? I don't think there are any packages outside of kdebase that use the kde libs so I'd love it if you could update KDE to 3.5.1 and port kword and k3b? Being able to easily burn discs on my Zaurus would blow my mates away but kword is my most wanted app for the Z.

More important than x.org and a new KDE (if not as cool as pdaxrom with a 2.6 kernel) is getting support for a FAT partition in the installer. I don't mind if we have to partition the disc manually at first, just as long as I can install pdaxrom with a root, swap, home and a FAT partion so the USB link still works.

Keep us updated please Thc- Thanks!
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: Meanie on March 12, 2006, 07:25:37 pm
There is now a kexec for 2.4.x kernel. might as well use this one rather than going to 2.6 for booting.
https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=18104 (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=18104)
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: ThC on March 13, 2006, 07:19:11 am
@Danboid : well , it seems that 2.6 kernel doesn't support bvdd yet which would be a showstopper for us (btw, the pdaXrom buildsystem is nearby ready to include 2.6 kernel once it will support everything ) (if I could live without video acceleration I would already have switched to OpenBSD )

@Meanie :
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Not very security. I have ever corrupted my jffs2 root file system on nand flash with this. Turn off the MTD support on booted kernel.
this one is a little scaring, seems a little too risky to include it by default in a rom (even beta) (and, it would force me to build various kernels for various roms to be able to test dual boot in any way ... remember I'm a lazy guy sometimes )
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: danboid on March 13, 2006, 08:26:20 am
bvdd is a 'must-have' feature for me- but are you totally sure its not in 2.6 now? I know JohnX said it wasn't in on that link I posted but that was over 2 months ago which is a long time in Linux land. Good to hear pdaxrom is pretty much 2.6 ready though!
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: Meanie on March 14, 2006, 01:18:36 am
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@Danboid : well , it seems that 2.6 kernel doesn't support bvdd yet which would be a showstopper for us (btw, the pdaXrom buildsystem is nearby ready to include 2.6 kernel once it will support everything ) (if I could live without video acceleration I would already have switched to OpenBSD )

@Meanie :
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Caution:
Not very security. I have ever corrupted my jffs2 root file system on nand flash with this. Turn off the MTD support on booted kernel.
this one is a little scaring, seems a little too risky to include it by default in a rom (even beta) (and, it would force me to build various kernels for various roms to be able to test dual boot in any way ... remember I'm a lazy guy sometimes )
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well, that's ok. I don't intend to ever dual boot my Z anyway. Ever since products like VMWare have appeared, I have come to the believe that dual booting is something that was done during the dark ages in the last millenium
lazyness is also one of my virtues
maybe we should be starting to look at ways how we can upgrade pdaXrom on our Zs without wiping everything and starting from scratch. For betas it is more or less acceptable/required to rebuild the whole system, but really, once we get into a stable non beta release, we should have a way of upgrading without wiping all our data or settings.
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: Da_Blitz on March 14, 2006, 05:33:49 am
What is BVDD anyway, no one can offer me a technical explanation of what it does and as far as i can see it just allows programs to use and reserve the built in SRAM for faster decoding, if so then a bit of clever hackery and 2.6 should support it

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maybe we should be starting to look at ways how we can upgrade pdaXrom on our Zs without wiping everything and starting from scratch. For betas it is more or less acceptable/required to rebuild the whole system, but really, once we get into a stable non beta release, we should have a way of upgrading without wiping all our data or settings.

/home on another partion has always worked for me an my home PC, i swear by it, and depending on your managment of self compiled packages, /usr/local as a symlink to home or the better option of another partion
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: DaddyGeek on March 16, 2006, 02:01:53 am
Is this 1.1.0b2 or 1.1.0b1+ ?  The first post slightly confuses me.  (Or maybe I shouldn't be trying to read such things at 11pm...)
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: ThC on March 16, 2006, 03:25:16 am
it's still 1.1.0b1 at the moment ... currently working on porting 1.1.0b2  (next beta ... will probably be named "1.1.0b2 for c3000 beta 1" then lol (sorry for such confusing names btw ... )
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: Meanie on March 16, 2006, 05:27:23 am
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it's still 1.1.0b1 at the moment ... currently working on porting 1.1.0b2  (next beta ... will probably be named "1.1.0b2 for c3000 beta 1" then lol (sorry for such confusing names btw ... )
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or call it 1.1.0b2-c3kb1  
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: DaddyGeek on March 16, 2006, 07:53:12 pm
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it's still 1.1.0b1 at the moment ... currently working on porting 1.1.0b2  (next beta ... will probably be named "1.1.0b2 for c3000 beta 1" then lol (sorry for such confusing names btw ... )
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or call it 1.1.0b2-c3kb1  
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From reading your site (thanks for all the info BTW) I am not surprised you would say that...

 
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: pyknite on March 17, 2006, 04:53:23 pm
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it's still 1.1.0b1 at the moment ... currently working on porting 1.1.0b2  (next beta ... will probably be named "1.1.0b2 for c3000 beta 1" then lol (sorry for such confusing names btw ... )
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yeah great news
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: Da_Blitz on March 21, 2006, 05:29:20 am
just a quick fix for those doing reboots offten (if you havent done it already)

boot and open /media/realroot/sbin/init in a text editor and change the following lines

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mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1to
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mount -t ext3 /dev/hdc1 || mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1

this means you can now have a CF card in the slot and it still boots corectly

and if like me you have HD problems you might want to add
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echo fscking hdd
fsck.ext3 /dev/hdc1 -p || fsck.ext3 /dev/hda1 -p

and copy fscx.ext3 and e2fsck from /sbin to /media/realroot/sbin
now copy libcom_err* libuuid* librt* libblkid* libcrypt* from /lib to /media/realroot/lib

thats it, reboot and enjoy, i appoligise if someone solved this already, next i want to get reboots working proprly
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: Meanie on March 21, 2006, 06:22:09 am
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just a quick fix for those doing reboots offten (if you havent done it already)

boot and open /media/realroot/sbin/init in a text editor and change the following lines

Code: [Select]
mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1to
Code: [Select]

mount -t ext3 /dev/hdc1 || mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1

this means you can now have a CF card in the slot and it still boots corectly

and if like me you have HD problems you might want to add
Code: [Select]
echo fscking hdd
fsck.ext3 /dev/hdc1 -p || fsck.ext3 /dev/hda1 -p

and copy fscx.ext3 and e2fsck from /sbin to /media/realroot/sbin
now copy libcom_err* libuuid* librt* libblkid* libcrypt* from /lib to /media/realroot/lib

thats it, reboot and enjoy, i appoligise if someone solved this already, next i want to get reboots working proprly
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my reboot and resume/suspend works properly. have a look here:
[a href=\"http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/custom-pdaxrom.html]http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/custom-pdaxrom.html[/url]
basically, you need to update or replace halt, init and ide.opts
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: Da_Blitz on March 22, 2006, 06:50:20 am
Thanks for that
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: Antikx on March 22, 2006, 08:19:01 am
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my reboot and resume/suspend works properly. have a look here:
http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/custom-pdaxrom.html (http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/custom-pdaxrom.html)
basically, you need to update or replace halt, init and ide.opts
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Meanie: Would this help and be safe to do on the Akita?
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: Meanie on March 23, 2006, 07:52:59 am
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my reboot and resume/suspend works properly. have a look here:
http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/custom-pdaxrom.html (http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/custom-pdaxrom.html)
basically, you need to update or replace halt, init and ide.opts
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Meanie: Would this help and be safe to do on the Akita?
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I think most of the stuff except for the first section on fixing the boot process should be fine.
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: Antikx on March 23, 2006, 10:20:04 pm
Thanks.
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: daniel3000 on March 29, 2006, 07:52:55 am
Okay, so I have now flashed the pdaXrom onto my C3000 too.

The look and feel of pdaXrom is better for me than QTopia from Cacko ROM.

So far I have not installed any additional software packages, just the plain pdaXrom installation.

Some first questions:

* Suspend does not work when lid is closed. Is this intentional? If not, what can be wrong?

* Some applications come up with a window larger than the screen. A "maximise" fits them to screen. But on next startup they are too large again (e.g. Sylpheed, gqview...). Any way around that?

* Running applicatoins used to be shown in the taskbar on QTopia. On pdaXrom they are not. I find it nice to have running applicatoins available on one klick. Is there a way to configure this?

* I tried if there is a task switcher like in Cacko. Pressing Shift-home. But then the screen went blank, USB port LED switched off (meaning power off?) and the HDD LED stays lit. Suspend? With On/Off button it does not come to life again.
But when pressing the "Menu" key the HDD LED flickers again and hub power comes up. but screen is black stil... what happens there?
Now I have to do a hard reset I guess...

* Are there any "users" predefined (such as "zaurus" on Cacko ROM)? Should one work as a user or do most people here work as root? I's prefer working as a user, but would I have to switch to root (meaning terminating X, logging out, logging back in and restarting X) when I want to modify a setting or do anything else which cannot easily be done via sudo on the console?

* In USB settings one can choose between CF and SD for USB-storage.
How can I access the internal MD via USB-storage from outside (provided I have an OS running which supports ext2)?

* Which feed(s) are recommended for the first steps after installing pdaXrom on C3000? I'm mainly looking for productivity tools as always :-)


So much for now. Looking forward to your replies.

Thank you!
daniel
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: Glorin on March 30, 2006, 05:34:15 pm
some problems with XFCE4, xrandr not detect mode closed, but openbox detect, it passible fix or i miss something ?
To Meanie
http://zaurus.daemons.gr/menaie/pdaxrom/fe....2_armv5tel.ipk (http://zaurus.daemons.gr/menaie/pdaxrom/feed/inetutils-clients_1.4.2_armv5tel.ipk) broken
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: Glorin on April 01, 2006, 06:32:45 pm
info about xrandr/chkhinge i found at forum
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: anunakin on April 10, 2006, 01:32:52 pm
Whats the best for use in SL-C3100? pdaXrom for Akita beta2 from pdaxrom.org or this one? this install a full pdaxrom to HDD? right? its have same kernel?
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: DaddyGeek on April 11, 2006, 05:58:50 pm
I am wondering why it is necessary to Flash the ROM everytime I want to re-install the HDImage ?

I quite regularly mangle the filesystem while playing and am wondering if I am just adding unecessary wear to the ROM having to do this all the time...

Is there a way around this?


P.S>  Thanks to meanie's pages once again I now have 1 local feed that is a combination of the stuff from his site as well as the C3000 and Additional feeds from pdaXrom.  Just working on semi-automating his changes now ...
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: fastscirocco on April 12, 2006, 11:18:45 am
Is this still in Beta testing or is it ready for use by someone
that never flashed their Zaurus before?

What Software do you use to sync with Windblows XP desktop

I'm chomping at the bit to try this.
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: flavien on April 13, 2006, 03:46:35 pm
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Is this still in Beta testing or is it ready for use by someone
that never flashed their Zaurus before?

What Software do you use to sync with Windblows XP desktop

I'm chomping at the bit to try this.
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Dev Team does not support this version.
It is not include in main distrib ...

Yes, It is working, read the whole post and you will find some tips to resolve some bugs but not all ;-)

This distribution transform your PDA in a "true" computer and i think it is better to use "true" software like putty, winscp from your "Windows" computer to communicate with it.

pdaXrom is a great rom but not for C3000 owner ... go to OpenZaurus and help Dev Team  to debug the last beta version than bring a "true" support for this hardware. I am  only waiting for the new driver for Video Hardware Acceleration (the same for SL3000,3100 & 3200).
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: DaddyGeek on May 25, 2006, 11:05:01 pm
So is this Beta2 the most recent version for the C3000?

(Without some of the funky boot onto hdd4 and such methods I have seen, which seem like one heck of a hack to be running your main OS with...)
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: danboid on June 05, 2006, 07:28:57 am
I installed pdaXromb2 on my C3000 yesterday- fantastic! My C3k is an entirely different, more powerful beast now compared to Cacko.

Problem is, I'm getting the resume problems you mention despite having tried the emergency d+b boot and fsck and fixing all the disk errors. The system works and seems to be pretty stable apart from the HD light staying on sometimes which requires a reset to get it to sleep properly again. Meanies scripts fixed the reboot and halt problems fine though.

Meanie!

Big thanks for your excellent documentation- I learnt almost everything I know about Qtopia, Cacko and the Z from your docs so I returned to your site when I wanted to install pdaXrom, but their is one major flaw with them right now and a few omissions which would help people, including me, a lot:

* The package feed URLs are incorrect. They're almost right though, just insert /download/ after .org and before /1.1.0beta1/ in the given 2 URLS.

In the Abiword section, please include a link to DesertRats package feed. I really think that aspell and all the popular dictionary files (us,gb,de,fr etc.) should all be in the main pdaxrom feed with Abiword.

Very early in your guide you talk about fscking the disk but don't give the instructions, which are

- remove zaurus battery and power, wait a few seconds

- hold down the D+B keys before you re-insert the battery, replace the case and flip the switch

- power on to emergency terminal

e2fsck /dev/hda1 - or something like that..

I found a thread on this where you said do a e2fsck -f -p -y /dev/hda1

( https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showt...c=18571&hl=fsck (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=18571&hl=fsck) )

but that isn't even a valid command

Meanie- it'd be fantastic if you could just expand on the USB networking part of your custom pdaXrom guide. I've never used SSH before, but I now know that ROX and GNOME users can use gftp's ssh2 support for a scp GUI and KDE users can use konqueror's fish protocol, Windows users winscp. So now I've enabled the ssh daemon, installed gftp- what else, apart from knowing the IP address and password of the device you're connecting to, do you have to do to form a simple ssh connection? I presume I'll have to copy a key over or something? A short guide to setting up a SSH connection would be a great addition to the guide.

Has anyone released a better kernel or an update for the C3000 pdaxromb2.zip which fixes the HD light sleep problem?

Thanks again sashz, thc, Meanie, OE and all the others for bringing me the most amazing portable Linux 'box' I've ever seen!  
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: Glorin on June 05, 2006, 09:02:45 am
Sashz preparing beta version for C3000 with new kernel... But it take time. Just wait
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: danboid on June 05, 2006, 01:58:29 pm
I think I trashed my pdaXrom install trying to get scp working. I was told root really needs to have a password set to establish a ssh connection so I ran passwd and changed the route password. However, the next time I was at the login prompt, I typed root but then it says

login: no valid shadow password

before asking me for my username again.

Note that I wouldn't be bothering setting up ssh if I could mount the Zaurus / as a USB disk but I installed meanies updated usb config applet and I could read the disk mounted as a USB disc but it said I didn't have permission to write to it. If anyone does know how to give normal users permission to write to the drive then please let me know and then meanie can add it to his guide.

Thanks!
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: danboid on June 08, 2006, 09:05:14 am
Has anybody here successfully installed pdaXrom b2 on a C3000 with its microdrive replaced with a 4GB CF card? Is the install procedure exactly the same as when installing onto a MD?

Is there a good guide (pref. with photos) on the net for replacing the internal drive on the C3000? Anybody want to recommend a fast 4GB CF card and a cheap place to get one in the UK?

I'm asking, if you hadn't guessed already, because it looks as if my MD has had it  . I frequently get fsck errors, corrupt filenames and now my desktop settings and wallpaper under ROX have just vanished thanks to a corrupt filesystem. I'm on my 2nd install of pdaXrom now- I followed Thc's revised instructions at the top of this thread. When I was getting disk errors, even after performing Meanies init and fsck fixes, I decided to re-install but this time just performing step 15 onwards, didn't think parritioning the drives would make any difference.

So, looks like I might try re-instaling again but doing the whole install procedure again. IIRC steps 8-14 didn't correllate with the prompts the installer was offering me so maybe I did something wrong during that part of the install? Anything else (apart from backing up) that I might want to do/check before I try another install my MD?

Thanks!

dan

EDIT:

Didn't take long to find iamasmith's guide to replacing the internal CF drive:

https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=19684 (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=19684)

Thanks Mr. Smith! Only thing missing from that guide is you neglected to mention what the max power rating of CF card is that will work in the C3000, if you know. Has anyone compiled a list of cards that are known to work well?
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: Reaper on June 09, 2006, 03:55:34 am
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Has anybody here successfully installed pdaXrom b2 on a C3000 with its microdrive replaced with a 4GB CF card? Is the install procedure exactly the same as when installing onto a MD?

Is there a good guide (pref. with photos) on the net for replacing the internal drive on the C3000? Anybody want to recommend a fast 4GB CF card and a cheap place to get one in the UK?

I'm asking, if you hadn't guessed already, because it looks as if my MD has had it  . I frequently get fsck errors, corrupt filenames and now my desktop settings and wallpaper under ROX have just vanished thanks to a corrupt filesystem. I'm on my 2nd install of pdaXrom now- I followed Thc's revised instructions at the top of this thread. When I was getting disk errors, even after performing Meanies init and fsck fixes, I decided to re-install but this time just performing step 15 onwards, didn't think parritioning the drives would make any difference.

So, looks like I might try re-instaling again but doing the whole install procedure again. IIRC steps 8-14 didn't correllate with the prompts the installer was offering me so maybe I did something wrong during that part of the install? Anything else (apart from backing up) that I might want to do/check before I try another install my MD?

Thanks!

dan

EDIT:

Didn't take long to find iamasmith's guide to replacing the internal CF drive:

https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=19684 (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=19684)

Thanks Mr. Smith! Only thing missing from that guide is you neglected to mention what the max power rating of CF card is that will work in the C3000, if you know. Has anyone compiled a list of cards that are known to work well?
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I tried replacing with 1 Gb CF card. See earlier in this thread. The sequence of commands at the flashing console is:

mke2fs -j /dev/hda1

mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /hdd1

cd /

gzip -cd /mnt/card/hdimage.tgz | tar xvf -

reboot

It works, but there are quite a few errors.
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: danboid on June 09, 2006, 04:35:13 am
Thanks Reaper!

Well, I'm wondering now if my HD really is buggered or if its a faulty kernel, script or program in pdaXromb2. Unfortunately I still think it more likely my drive is knackered

I was using Cacko for almost a year before switching to pdaX and I never had any fs errors on boot or during use. I've only had a few quick goes with OZ and I didn't repartition the MD for it either so maybe its not a fair comparison but again I never saw fsck complaining. Also, I checked the md5sum of some big files I've copied onto my current pdaXrom partition and they match up with my PC, which is confusing me.

I've had to run a manual (D+B boot) fsck on it every day since I installed pdaXrom- surely this isn't normal?

I'm not sure if its been mentioned in this thread already but there is a bug I've noticed (that isn't mentioned in Meanies docs) and that is the Z goes into suspend after you've changed the time on the matchbox panel.
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: Reaper on June 09, 2006, 04:54:58 am
Your situation isn't normal, that's for sure. Try replacing your MD, 1 or 2 Gb Cf cards are now almost as cheap as dirt. I got the following errors after my "kitchen reflashing"  :

1) I'm unable to reboot in any other way than reset/battery removal (don't remember, though, maybe it was with MD and usual beta1 also);

2) XMMS on some tracks overloads CPU and starts to lag;

3) Fn very often doesn't work, and so do several other secondary key functions;

4) There's no overclocking spreadsheet so OC doesn't work either;

5) SD driver from Sharp works, but, strange enough, it allows to write onto SD card only when using Z as USB card reader. Reading is OK;

6) Firefox (or DeerPark) is MUCH slower and MUCH less stable than in previous releases, it aborts very often, and, what's much worse, doesn't free memory after that.

7) Also I was unable to install and use zgcc image, but I think that's my fault. It mounts, but commands return "unknown command".

Maybe there are some other mistakes as well, I just don't remember now.

Oh, yes, 8) Suspend/resume is REALLY flaky. It's a widespread mistake with 2.4.x pdaX versions, if I'm correct.
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: danboid on June 09, 2006, 05:25:26 am
Overclocking, the Fn key and writing to SD card all seem to be working fine on my install but I'm having the same memory/instability issues with FireFox you describe.

Reboot and Halt don't work under b2 until you apply the fixed scripts as detailed on Meanies pdaxrom customisation page. b2 didn't even come with a halt script.

http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/custom-pdaxrom.html (http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/custom-pdaxrom.html)

Again, it seems my my desktop is disappearing before my eyes. I'd just put some icons and links on the ROX desktop and now a couple of them just have blank link icons instead of the proper pixmap.

its a shame there's nothing like spinrite for linux

Another bug I think I've found is that the Light+Power settiings tool doesn't seem to work. I've set suspend to 0 (never?) minutes when on AC power yet it is still suspending after 5 or 10 mins.

Looks like I'll be putting Cacko back on to see if I can get a reliable system back until a good pdaXrom gets released for C3000. Will I have to enter the D+B menu and manually re-partition the drive before I reflash Cacko?
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: Reaper on June 09, 2006, 06:07:07 am
There are some recipes:

https://www.oesf.org/forums/lofiversion/ind...php?t13974.html (https://www.oesf.org/forums/lofiversion/index.php?t13974.html)

Actually, there was a good HOWTO written by Pelon http://www.xlfag.com/zaurus/ (http://www.xlfag.com/zaurus/) ), but now this link is broken...
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: humit on June 09, 2006, 06:44:00 am
Quote
There are some recipes:

https://www.oesf.org/forums/lofiversion/ind...php?t13974.html (https://www.oesf.org/forums/lofiversion/index.php?t13974.html)

Actually, there was a good HOWTO written by Pelon http://www.xlfag.com/zaurus/ (http://www.xlfag.com/zaurus/) ), but now this link is broken...
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=130515\")

i've found a web archive of the page for Feb 05, 2005

[a href=\"http://web.archive.org/web/20050205134428/http://www.xlfag.com/zaurus/]http://web.archive.org/web/20050205134428/...fag.com/zaurus/[/url]
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: danboid on June 09, 2006, 06:45:52 am
Shame about that link! If anybody else has a working link I'd appreciate it very much if you could post it. I would've thought going from pdaXrom back to Cacko would've been quite well documented already.

On the page you linked to, and also in Meanies doc, it talks about updating the NAND. I've never updated the NAND on my C3k but its second hand so maybe the previous owner did. How do I check what version of NAND I have? Also, what got fixed between v1.01 and 1.11 of the C3000 NAND. Could an old NAND cause the MD problems I've been having?

EDIT

Thanks for that link humit! I presume that if I want to install Cacko I can just use cackos hdd1image.tgz in step 5 instead of the trisoft one? I've actually never tried the official SHARP rom for the C3000 as I've always read Cacko is better out of the box.

I'd MUCH rather be running pdaXrom of course. Maybe if I update my NAND (if it needs it) and install pdaXrom again I might have more luck (wishful thinking I'd guess)
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: danboid on June 09, 2006, 07:31:04 am
I would imagine that I should just be able to do steps 1-4 in that link and then I should be able to install Cacko as per usual.

That doc really, really should be stored somewhere more visible and permanent- on the ZUG, OZ, Cacko and pdaXrom sites doc sections for a start. There's no way you can guess that sort of stuff (well, I certainly couldn't).

Now I just need to find out what version NAND I have on already. Has anybody tried installing the C3000 b2 on a machine with the old NAND? From his docs I'm presuming that Meanie already had 1.11 on his.

If it wasn't for helpful posters on these forums and a talented dev community I know that my C3000 would've been a (very promising) waste of time and money. I glimpsed what my C3000 can really do now and I can't wait to get it running properly with pdaXrom!

EDIT

You can find out the NAND version of your C3000 and do a HDD checksum from under the D+M menu. Turns out I was running 1.01 so I'm going to update now and re-install pdaXrom. Anyone else wanting to update their C3000 NAND can get it from

http://support.ezaurus.com/sl-c3000/update...ate/kyodaku.asp (http://support.ezaurus.com/sl-c3000/update/c3000update/kyodaku.asp)

card_update_3000111 its called but unfortunately its in .exe format. Why do even people who produce Linux only computers presume everyone is running Windows?
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: danboid on June 20, 2006, 06:11:50 pm
Oh no!

I'd just revisited this thread as I was going to copy those recovery instructions and send them to maslovsky so he could add them to the Cacko docs on the web but now that link has disappeared! We need to recover those instructions then make sure they get archived somewhere safely. Anybody got a copy or know where they could be now?

Thanks!

dan
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: Reaper on June 21, 2006, 11:19:05 am
Got it!
(I knew it would kinda come in handy...)  


Returning Your Zaurus SL-C3000 To It's Factory Settings
Much of the information here came from the helpful members of the Zaurus User Group forum with special thanks to Jonathan.
 
The Story: In a moment of terror I rebooted my Z and got an HDD1 error. I did a Hard Reset by holding down the OK button while powering up. Then I chose menu items 3/1/Y. I ended up with a HDD3 error. I later discovered that when I installed debian and changed a read only file, the reset conflicted with those changes. Believing that the 3000 would work much like my 5500 I assumed I could restore to factory settings with a startup trick. I had no idea that by wiping out my hard drive I'd lose everything. But that's just what I did.
The Solution: Warning! You could brick your zaurus and have to send it back to Sharp!
Disclaimer! I cannot be responible for damage to your zaurus!
Warning! You will lose All stored information.

This method should only be tried if you are at your wits end, are a curious geek like me, or completely insane.


The essential software is contained in the 16Mb ROM called the NAND and about 20Mb on the hard drive. You will need the following files:
NAND (this contains a boot loader, the Service/Diagnosis Menus, an emergency linux system, and the basic filesystem. You most certainly won't need this but it's included here for completeness)

http://downloads.conics.net/pda/zaurus-sl-...iginal-backups/ (http://downloads.conics.net/pda/zaurus-sl-c700/service-menus/original-backups/)

Software (hdd1.tar.gz)

http://www.xlfag.com/zaurus/hdd1.tar.gz (http://www.xlfag.com/zaurus/hdd1.tar.gz)

English translation provided by TriSoft (see Backup for Download zip file)

http://www.trisoft.de/en_c3000howto.htm (http://www.trisoft.de/en_c3000howto.htm)

You might also want to replace the kernel so you can watch the Z boot up just like on your linux box.

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=e...hl%3Den%26lr%3D (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://tetsu.homelinux.org/zaurus/kernel/&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dc3000%2Bupdater%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D)

Once again, this is not the way to rescue a hung Z. These are extreme measures and are not recommended!

Begin every step with the Z powered down.

Disconnect the adapter. Remove the battery cover but slide the latch back to the closed position.

Restore the NAND:
If you have not messed with the read-only files in your ROM you should skip this step.
This is the most dangerous thing you can do to your Z!

Unzip the NAND and put the .DBK file on a CF card. It doesn't matter if the card is not empty. Put the card in the slot. Remove the battery. Hold down the D and M keys and replace the battery. If the diagnostic menu doesn't come up try again. CONNECT THE ADAPTER. Do not choose Update Menu. Page down and choose the Backup Restore Menu. Choose NAND Flash Restore. If it finds your file press OK twice (twice because this is very dangerous). Watch the progress bar and wait until you see Restore...OK. Press cancel. Remove the adapter. Remove the battery, replace it, and check to be sure the Z powers up again.

Substitute a new kernel: This step is optional and dangerous! Put the Special Kernel and update.sh on a CF card and insert it into the slot. Replace the adapter. Hold down the OK key and power on. From the Service Menu choose 4 then CF then Y. Whenit prompts you, do a Soft Reset. Remove the adapter. Remove the battery. Wait 30 seconds. With the point of the stylus gently press the submerged button in a tiny black rectangle next to where the battery would be. You should feel a slight click. Replace the battery and power on. You should see the boot process and Tux the Linux penguin instead of the Zaurus logo.

Partition the hard drive:
Insert a CF card. Remove the battery. While holding down the D and B keys, replace the battery. Release the keys and wait for a prompt. Login as root. Input the following:
    # sfdisk -uC /dev/hdc <<EOF
    # 0,203,83
    # ,816,83
    # ,6916,c
    # EOF
   
    # mke2fs -j /dev/hdc1
    # mke2fs -j /dev/hdc2
    # mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/hdc3
   
Replace the Software:
Put hdd1.tar.gz on a CF card and put it in the slot. Remove the battery. While holding down the D and B keys, replace the battery. Release the keys and wait for a prompt. Login as root. Input the following:
   # mount /dev/hdc1 /hdd1
   # mount /dev/hdc2 /hdd2
   # cd /
   # gzip -cd /mnt/cf/hdd1.tar.gz |tar xvf -
   
When you receive the #prompt again remove and replace the battery. Replace the adapter. Hold down the OK key and power on. From the Service Menu choose 3 and then 1 and then Y. After several minutes you should have a fresh Japanese machine. When it boots up, click on the words in the center of the screen. Then on the cross hairs. You will then be left in the date setting application. hit the Home key to get to the menus.

Assert your Western Imperialist Tendencies:
Unzip the English translation and put it in a directory called Backup_Files on the CF card. Insert it into your Japanese zaurus and go to Settings (the middle tab at the top of the page). Find the green icon that looks like a sheet of paper that goes both ways. Click on it and then on the lower of the two blue dots. From the left drop down list in the middle of the screen choose CF. The English translation backup should appear. Now click the lower center button. In the popup choose the left button. After watching the progress bar, the Z should boot up into beautiful English.
As a convenience you can download mkhdd.sh which will perform steps 4 and 5. Just put it on your CF card. You must have the card in the slot before you D/B-On to get to the #prompt. Then just type /mnt/cf/mkhdd.sh and follow the prompts.  

http://www.xlfag.com/zaurus/mkhdd.sh (http://www.xlfag.com/zaurus/mkhdd.sh)


That's it. I've made no hyperlinks in text itself to make it easier to edit. Hope that helps.
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: Reaper on June 21, 2006, 11:35:13 am
P.S. Sorry for offtopic, but I suppose that the most long-lasting (though not the most convenient) solution of "C3000 pdaX problem" is to replace 16 Mb NAND chip with 128 Mb one. I've got this chip and gave it to Maslovsky for exploring (a friend of him has got programmable hot air blower I'm dreaming of...) Sashz says that C+D combination with the replacement of this chip would be able to solve most of the C3000-specific problems...
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: dandare123 on July 20, 2006, 01:26:26 am
I got into the situation where I wanted to revert from pdaXrom and found that I needed to make some modifications to the instructions to make them work for me, especially since some of the required software above seems to be unavailable - I'll summarize the steps:

1. Get the following:
card_update_3000111.exe form
Quote
http://support.ezaurus.com/sl-c3000/update...0updatecard.asp (http://support.ezaurus.com/sl-c3000/update/c3000update/c3000updatecard.asp)
Scroll down on the Japanese page, the link is somewhere in the middle of the page. That basically gives you a fresh ROM to install. Extract the .exe file on a DOS/WIN box. Put the following files on an empty SD card:
hdimage1.tgz
initrd.bin
mversion.bin
updater.sh
zImage.bin

2. Restore the partitioning:
Insert a CF card. Remove the battery. While holding down the D and B keys, replace the battery. Release the keys and wait for a prompt. Login as root (no password).
Input the following:
    # sfdisk -uC /dev/hda <<EOF
    # 0,203,83
    # ,816,83
    # ,6916,c
    # EOF
(Note: My C3000 needed the partitions to be called hda1...hda2 instead of hdc1...hdc3)   
    # mke2fs -j /dev/hda1
    # mke2fs -j /dev/hda2
    # mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/hda3

3. Restore the software:
Put in the SD Card where you extracted card_update_3000111.exe to into the SD card slot. Unplug your Z, take out the battery. Push the reset button, plug in the power cord, put in the battery. At that point I usually press the OK button, then put the battery lock switch into the 'On' position and then push the 'On' button. You should get the Service Menu. Choose 4 then SD Card then Y

The Z will reboot and restore the software and reboot again. Very likely it will hang after the second reboot; in that case repeat to unplug your Z, take out the battery. Push the reset button, plug in the power cord, put in the battery. Press the OK button, then put the battery lock switch into the 'On' position and then push the 'On' button. You should get the Service Menu. 3 and then 1 and then Y.

After several minutes you should have a fresh Japanese machine. When it boots up, click on the words in the center of the screen. Then on the cross hairs. You will then be left in the date setting application. hit the Home key to get to the menus

From here you can proceed to revert your Z into English as outlined above.

Many thanks to all who have contributed to this and especially Reaper for his summary - it really helped to turn my Z back into a working piece of equipment again!
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: maystorm on July 23, 2006, 08:08:38 am
Quote
Okay, so I have now flashed the pdaXrom onto my C3000 too.

The look and feel of pdaXrom is better for me than QTopia from Cacko ROM.

So far I have not installed any additional software packages, just the plain pdaXrom installation.

Some first questions:

* Suspend does not work when lid is closed. Is this intentional? If not, what can be wrong?

* Some applications come up with a window larger than the screen. A "maximise" fits them to screen. But on next startup they are too large again (e.g. Sylpheed, gqview...). Any way around that?

* Running applicatoins used to be shown in the taskbar on QTopia. On pdaXrom they are not. I find it nice to have running applicatoins available on one klick. Is there a way to configure this?

* I tried if there is a task switcher like in Cacko. Pressing Shift-home. But then the screen went blank, USB port LED switched off (meaning power off?) and the HDD LED stays lit. Suspend? With On/Off button it does not come to life again.
But when pressing the "Menu" key the HDD LED flickers again and hub power comes up. but screen is black stil... what happens there?
Now I have to do a hard reset I guess...

* Are there any "users" predefined (such as "zaurus" on Cacko ROM)? Should one work as a user or do most people here work as root? I's prefer working as a user, but would I have to switch to root (meaning terminating X, logging out, logging back in and restarting X) when I want to modify a setting or do anything else which cannot easily be done via sudo on the console?

* In USB settings one can choose between CF and SD for USB-storage.
How can I access the internal MD via USB-storage from outside (provided I have an OS running which supports ext2)?

* Which feed(s) are recommended for the first steps after installing pdaXrom on C3000? I'm mainly looking for productivity tools as always :-)


So much for now. Looking forward to your replies.

Thank you!
daniel
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I would've got the same questions.

Anyone?

TIA!
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: Reaper on July 29, 2006, 05:05:37 am
Quote
Quote
Okay, so I have now flashed the pdaXrom onto my C3000 too.

The look and feel of pdaXrom is better for me than QTopia from Cacko ROM.

So far I have not installed any additional software packages, just the plain pdaXrom installation.

Some first questions:

* Suspend does not work when lid is closed. Is this intentional? If not, what can be wrong?

* Some applications come up with a window larger than the screen. A "maximise" fits them to screen. But on next startup they are too large again (e.g. Sylpheed, gqview...). Any way around that?

* Running applicatoins used to be shown in the taskbar on QTopia. On pdaXrom they are not. I find it nice to have running applicatoins available on one klick. Is there a way to configure this?

* I tried if there is a task switcher like in Cacko. Pressing Shift-home. But then the screen went blank, USB port LED switched off (meaning power off?) and the HDD LED stays lit. Suspend? With On/Off button it does not come to life again.
But when pressing the "Menu" key the HDD LED flickers again and hub power comes up. but screen is black stil... what happens there?
Now I have to do a hard reset I guess...

* Are there any "users" predefined (such as "zaurus" on Cacko ROM)? Should one work as a user or do most people here work as root? I's prefer working as a user, but would I have to switch to root (meaning terminating X, logging out, logging back in and restarting X) when I want to modify a setting or do anything else which cannot easily be done via sudo on the console?

* In USB settings one can choose between CF and SD for USB-storage.
How can I access the internal MD via USB-storage from outside (provided I have an OS running which supports ext2)?

* Which feed(s) are recommended for the first steps after installing pdaXrom on C3000? I'm mainly looking for productivity tools as always :-)


So much for now. Looking forward to your replies.

Thank you!
daniel
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I would've got the same questions.

Anyone?

TIA!
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Well, I use X11/pdaX from the very beginning (winter 2003/2004), so I think I could answer at least few of these questions.

1) For me, suspend DOES work when the lid is closed, and it's always happens at most inconvenient circumstances (e.g. listening to music); as I said before, suspend on 2.4 pdaX is very flaky anyway - rarely it works as it's ought to, but more frequently it's needed to press power button 2-3 times to turn it on. For turning off, use suspend from start menu - it's somehow safer. That's my experience, I don't know why it happens.

2) About large application windows. There may be other workaround, but AFAIK, one has to recompile these apps with proper settings - they weren't written for VGA screen. Zumi does it with PIM apps - look at his SoC page at mail.pdaxrom.org .

3) With matchbox it isn't that simple. Try other WM's like XFCE or KDE. With the latter it works for sure, but it's pretty slow. To switch between apps in Matchbox, try usual Alt-Tab.

4) PdaX philosophy is the following: be omnipotent and responsible for all the consequences. So it's natural the default user is root. It fits me very much, as I became really crazy because of countless limitations at Cacko. After all, I always can reflash. I keep "emergency kit" with .conf files, fonts, /etc scripts and alike on my SD card, so restoring my Z after reflashing is a matter of less than an hour, and most of this time is spent at downloading and installing new versions of programs not included.

5) Next versions of pdaX should have the opportinity to use MD as USB storage. There may be other solutions as well, but I know nothing about it.

6) Download gcc image and mount it - it contains most of needed stuff. Install missing libs and apps by request. I highly recommend autoconf. Unfortunately, I'm not much of a developer - I only try to compile some programs from its source codes. But that's it. Feed is at

[a href=\"http://mail.pdaxrom.org/download/1.1.0beta1/Zaurus-C1000-C3100/feed/]http://mail.pdaxrom.org/download/1.1.0beta...000-C3100/feed/[/url]
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: maystorm on July 29, 2006, 07:24:36 am
@Reaper:

Thank you very much for your detailed comments! Every day I work with pdaXrom I like it more! Because it comes closes to a "real" Linux system, IMHO. If you know Linux from your desktop PC it is relatively easy to get things done under pdaXrom. For example, I run Xfce4 as a desktop envionment on my C3000 since I also use it on my workstation. And it is absolutely the same look and feel. Amazing.

Quote
After all, I always can reflash. I keep "emergency kit" with .conf files, fonts, /etc scripts and alike on my SD card, so restoring my Z after reflashing is a matter of less than an hour, and most of this time is spent at downloading and installing new versions of programs not included.
This is, at the moment, the only thing of concern to me: How will I be able to make an upgrade to the next version of pdaXrom without losing all my individual settings? If you don't mind and if your time allows, could you shortly describe what exactly your "emergency kit" contains? I'm not worried doing some additional tweaking after having installed a new version of pdaXrom, however, I'm just afraid that I will have to do all of my customization again!  
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: Reaper on July 30, 2006, 11:41:47 am
OK, I'll try to do my best, but don't expect I remember ANYTHING (I don't even for meself )

Usually I copy onto SD card the following dirs:

1) .xmms, .mc and other stuff from /home/root - to keep my plugins, menus and so on;

2) /etc/bluetooth - VERY IMPORTANT! If you don't have this dir, you'll have to reconnect manually every time (link_key file with code from phone will be missing);

3) /etc/ppp - the same, logins/passwords/phone settings;

4) If you use some custom-compile fonts in X (like I don for XMMS) - copy them too, also you can copy fonts.dir not to edit it every time;

5) The last rule: don't keep your distros/data files anywhere except data cards! And duplicate any valueable data! PdaX for now is stable enough but it can ruin even files on SD (move them into lost clusters - I had that more than once), so make more than one copy.
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: maystorm on July 30, 2006, 03:47:57 pm
Thanks a lot for your suggestions! It seems to be a particular good idea to keep data files on separate data cards. And making regular backups is never a bad advice, however, humans tend to become very lazy in case everything seems to work fine and smoothly. Only in case of crashes one wished having made more frequent backups.

I'll try to remember those hints in future!
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: daniel3000 on August 28, 2006, 02:50:06 pm
Hello,

where can I download this beta2 we're discussing here?
The original URL and the mirror are dead..

Thanks!
daniel
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: relapse808 on October 07, 2006, 02:47:48 pm
I am having a problem installing the PDAXrom.  On the first part where I choose 4. update and then choose my sd card and choose "yes".  It goes into some sort of bootloader.  It says files are missing and continue to boot the current cacko rom installed.  I have the one file zipped in the archive at the root of the SD card.  What am i doing wrong.
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: Wildherb on October 08, 2006, 07:48:08 pm
Quote
I am having a problem installing the PDAXrom.  On the first part where I choose 4. update and then choose my sd card and choose "yes".  It goes into some sort of bootloader.  It says files are missing and continue to boot the current cacko rom installed.  I have the one file zipped in the archive at the root of the SD card.  What am i doing wrong.
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Simplyy unzip the archive. Your SD (or CF) card should have the 4 files updater.sh, tools.tar, initrd.bin and hdimage1.tgz. Best of luck!
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: relapse808 on October 09, 2006, 02:24:35 am
Quote
Quote
I am having a problem installing the PDAXrom.  On the first part where I choose 4. update and then choose my sd card and choose "yes".  It goes into some sort of bootloader.  It says files are missing and continue to boot the current cacko rom installed.  I have the one file zipped in the archive at the root of the SD card.  What am i doing wrong.
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Simplyy unzip the archive. Your SD (or CF) card should have the 4 files updater.sh, tools.tar, initrd.bin and hdimage1.tgz. Best of luck!
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the file i am downloading has one file inside a tar.  I am not sure how to unzip it.
Title: Pdaxrom For C3000 Beta2
Post by: bdbell on October 12, 2006, 04:55:27 am
Quote
Quote
Quote
I am having a problem installing the PDAXrom.  On the first part where I choose 4. update and then choose my sd card and choose "yes".  It goes into some sort of bootloader.  It says files are missing and continue to boot the current cacko rom installed.  I have the one file zipped in the archive at the root of the SD card.  What am i doing wrong.
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Simplyy unzip the archive. Your SD (or CF) card should have the 4 files updater.sh, tools.tar, initrd.bin and hdimage1.tgz. Best of luck!
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the file i am downloading has one file inside a tar.  I am not sure how to unzip it.
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try winrar - it should extract the tar, and then unzip the zip file