Useful Applications

[phunkhy]

Is opie-reader available in a feed?
I'm using justreader but it does not look as nice as opie-reader under Cacko ROM, so it would be good to have opie-reader in pdaX as well.

But I cannot find it in the feeds.

Well, if I wouldn't be a pdaXrom user since almost two years, I also wouldn't know. It used to be in the old unstable feed. As this is not linked from the homepage anymore it is hard to find. Google found it because I still have got the ipk and I could search for the filename...

http://zaurus.spy.org/feeds/cacko/pdaXrom/...0/rc5/unstable/

It is the best ebook reader for the Z and I'm using it every day. I hope it will make its way back into the main feed. But some people do work on it:
https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=20467&st=15

I hope it works for you

[diesel1]

Hi all. I am using Minimo for browsing at the moment.

Diesel1.

[mars]

Here are a few I use:

* Word Processor: editor + restructured text + docutils + python
* Wiki: moinmoin desktop
* Simple Website Generator: files in restructed text + rest2web

* Editors: vi, leafpad, nedit (tabbed documents)
* Ebooks: FBReader
* Financial: Grisbi
* Simple Flat File DB: Portabase (originally from Sharp ROMs - still very useful)

[karlto]

Hi all. I am using Minimo for browsing at the moment.

Diesel1.
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How is it for speed and rendering pages correctly compared to dillo?

[daniel3000]

Well, if I wouldn't be a pdaXrom user since almost two years, I also wouldn't know. It used to be in the old unstable feed. As this is not linked from the homepage anymore it is hard to find. Google found it because I still have got the ipk and I could search for the filename...

http://zaurus.spy.org/feeds/cacko/pdaXrom/...0/rc5/unstable/

It is the best ebook reader for the Z and I'm using it every day. I hope it will make its way back into the main feed. But some people do work on it:
https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=20467&st=15

I hope it works for you
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Wow, thanks! Finally I have back the good old opie-reader!
However, when scrolling (not in-place, but rolling, what I prefer) it is not as smooth as in opie-reader under Cacko ROM.  It is rather quivering during scrolling.
Is there any way around this? Maybe this has to do with the fonts? I have Bitstream Vera configured for use in opie-reader. Haven't tried other fonts yet.
Do you also experience that?

Thanks a lot
daniel

[desertrat]

Word Processing: AbiWord
SpreadSheet: Gnumeric
Browsers: Dillo, Firefox, Mozilla, links, lynx
Email: sylpheed-claws
FTP: gftp
Text Editor: vim, bluefish
PIM: KOPI/KAPI
PDF: xpdf
Dictionaries: stardict
IM: Gaim, licq
Media Players: xmms, mplayer
Graphics: xzgv, mtpaint, gimp
File Managers: mc, emelfm
Terminal:  mrxvt
Other Tools: kchmviewer, tuxcards, hp48

[deckard73]

Hello

Four rules I learned (the hard way) about using pda is:

Use a text interface, it is less time and power consuming
Use the same tools every day
Make context switches as easy and rarely as possible
Use well documented and maintained software

My favourite tool is emacs. And I use it on linux console without X.
Sometimes I start X if I need japanese language support, but not often.

Emacs can do all this for you

Word Processing: Emacs
SpreadSheet: never needed one
Browsers: emacs-w3m, dillo
Email: emacs-vm
FTP: emacs ange-ftp
Text Editor: emacs
PIM: emacs-planner
PDF: xpdf, pdf2txt
Dictionaries: steak in emacs (german-english-german), edict in emacs (japanese-german)
IM: emacs-erc
Media Players: emacs-emms
Graphics: not useful on pda
File Managers: emacs-dired
Terminal:  emacs-shell
Other Tools: too much to mention. check emacs-wiki

Emacs is not good for impressing your friends. Its good for impressing you.

I want to create a short movie about emacs on zaurus. Feel free to contribute ideas. How do you use emacs?

Have a nice day
Enno

[phillvs]

I was thinking about discussing some of the applications we all use on pdaXrom. Since there are lots of applications available for pdaXrom, we each will have our own favourites which may be the same or different.

Maybe we should have a thread which discusses the most favourable applications depending on categories. There already is a thread on window managers, but I have not seen a thread on user applications yet so I though, let's start one.

There are several application categories that I can think of almost everyone would want to run and I think we should discuss what those are to find out what is most usable and popular. Well here goes:


Word Processing: AbiWord! what else?

SpreadSheet: Gnumeric! what else?

Browsers: Dillo (since it works best for most things), Firefox (slow but most feature rich),  links, lynx, others?

Email: Sylpheed! Thunderbird is a bit slow in comparison, what else?

FTP: gftp, what else?

Text Editor: does anyone use scite? or does everyone prefer leadpad? or even vim? what else?

PIM: KOPI/KAPI?, what else?

PDF: xpdf? epdfview? evince? which one is better? what else?

Dictionaries: stardict or qbedic, or both? what else?

IM: Gaim?, Xchat?, licq? what else?

Media Players: xmms, mplayer

Graphics: GIMP, GQView, GThumb, etc..?

File Managers: rox, emelfm? what else?

Terminal:  aterm, rxvt, putty? what else?

Other Tools: xarchiver, gps, kchmviewer, scrot, tuxcards ?

Are there any other applications that people love to use on pdaXrom?
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I pretty much agree with all that you have said but:

Browsers: prefer Firefox but I admit it is slow. (watch the face of your neighbour when you fire up a FULL browser on your pda!)

Graphics:  have used GIMP but it is very slow. GQView has crashed on me with big files

Multimedia:  xmms worked on one version of the rom but not on another so haven't revisited multimedia software at all.

Others: would love to get the latest version of dosbox on my Z. The last time I tried, the version compiled and put in the feed would not run the DOS prog. I wanted. The later version does.

thanks Phill

Oh, and I forgot, I once got DOOM (game) running and thoroughly enjoyed it. I would put that on again if I could get some more levels to play.

Phill

[daniel3000]

My favourite tool is emacs. And I use it on linux console without X.
Sometimes I start X if I need japanese language support, but not often.

Emacs can do all this for you
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Hi Enno,

this is a very interesting approach! I'd like to learn more about it!
Does emacs also have outliner capabilities?
Is dealing with XML and HTML easy?

Do you do email on the Zaurus? with mutt?

daniel

[Meanie]

rxvt can have transparent background as well just like aterm. for me, the only thing that aterm does which rxvt does not do is allow me to scrollback when I press the shift+up key
i could ditch aterm if i figure out how to do that in rxvt as well.

[zi99y]

I use MRXVT which is a tabbed version of rxvt, and still very light. Still I can use shift+up to scroll up a line, or Fn+Shift+Up page up, works very well and I'm surprise rxvt cannot.

Transparent backgrounds are also catered for  I can't see how any other terminal apps can beat it!

[daniel3000]

I use MRXVT which is a tabbed version of rxvt, and still very light. Still I can use shift+up to scroll up a line, or Fn+Shift+Up page up, works very well and I'm surprise rxvt cannot.

Transparent backgrounds are also catered for  I can't see how any other terminal apps can beat it!
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exactly my opinion.
I use mrxvt for all active terminal work.
Aditionally I use rxvt as a helper terminal, e.g. for starting mplayer from Streamtuner, or for starting kismet from the menu etc.

daniel

[deckard73]

My favourite tool is emacs. And I use it on linux console without X.
Sometimes I start X if I need japanese language support, but not often.

Emacs can do all this for you
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Hi Enno,

this is a very interesting approach! I'd like to learn more about it!
Does emacs also have outliner capabilities?
Is dealing with XML and HTML easy?

Do you do email on the Zaurus? with mutt?

daniel
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Hi Daniel

There are at least two outline modes

[a href=\"http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/OutlineMode]http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/OutlineMode[/url]
http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/AllOut

Planner uses AllOut-Mode.

For other modes check the emacs wiki, too

http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/XmlMode

http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/MarkupModes

Mutt is a very good email client. But at the moment I use emacs-vm. Check here

http://www.wonderworks.com/vm/

Everything is well documented.

bye
Enno

[diesel1]

Hi all. I am using Minimo for browsing at the moment.

Diesel1.
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How is it for speed and rendering pages correctly compared to dillo?
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Hi Karlto, sorry for the delay, I have no problems with any site I have browsed so far (except the usual limitations, flash java etc), I'm not sure if it can download links(?). It does seem as fast as dillo.

I must admit I usually only read oesf and other forums and bbc site!

Diesel1.

[Meanie]

so in general, wordprocessing, spreadsheet, email, ftp, dictionaries, IM, media players, graphics, file managers are straight forward and most people seem to be using the same group of apps. window managers and games are being discussed in other threads so the one of interests are:

Browsers since there is not one single killer browser yet. if only minimo was properly developed by its devs and made to work efficiently on linux rather than wince. does anybody use the old konqueror embedded browser which does not require kde installed?

PIM is something I have not used much at all and would like to hear more from people on what they use and why, what features they use/need, etc.

PDF viewers seem to be many and a bit unstable still. what is the current fav and most stable/functional?

Other Tools: there's been quite a few mentioned here and I think we need to discuss this more since there are probably lots of useful tools hanging around which not everybody knows about.

- scrot is great. i have integrated it into my screencap script

- chm, which is better: kchmviewer or xchm?

- fbreader vs opiereader? which one has better features?

- financial apps: grisbi, homebank, gnucash? anymore?

- streaming apps: vlc, amule, etc...?