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Title: Ka/pi Or Some Other Address Program
Post by: donquixote on January 13, 2005, 07:28:08 pm
First of all, I installed ka/pi from some feed when I first installed pdaxrom, but now I cannot find a feed with this in it. Can someone help?

Also, I never really got to use ka/pi for very long because it stopped working for some unknown reason so I don't know if I'll like it or not. But are there other address book programs out there that I could try if I don't get ka/pi to work? Please post recommendations.

thanks.

dq
Title: Ka/pi Or Some Other Address Program
Post by: scoutme on January 13, 2005, 07:59:03 pm
there's something unclear...

1) Ka/pi is preinstalled in the pdaxrom distribution, so no need to reinstall it
2) Ka/pi is present in the regular pdaxrom feed

so:
what version of pdaxrom are you using? Consider switching to the lasr release candidate, 1.1.0 RC8. That's definitely times and times better and more usable of any prior version.

after installing RC8, you won't have those problems anyumore with addressbooks
Title: Ka/pi Or Some Other Address Program
Post by: cs_jacky on January 13, 2005, 08:31:24 pm
The KA/Pi and KO/Pi in RC8 is an old version. It lacks some useful functionality such as PiSync. Any reason not to upgrade it?

Jacky
Title: Ka/pi Or Some Other Address Program
Post by: donquixote on January 13, 2005, 08:56:09 pm
I am running RC8. I cannot see ka/pi in any feed or in my "installed packages"; however, it is installed.

Here is the error I get when I try to run kapi:
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kapi: relocation error: /usr/lib/qt/lib/libmicrokabc.so.1: undefined symbol: _ZNK4KRES8Resource9classNameEv
I've had simliar problems before and the solution was to do LD_PRELOAD=/lib/libgcc_s.so vim before running the program-- this method did not work for me.

Any suggestions?

thanks.

dq
Title: Ka/pi Or Some Other Address Program
Post by: cs_jacky on January 13, 2005, 09:35:45 pm
The package is kdepim.

I can run kapi without problem.
Title: Ka/pi Or Some Other Address Program
Post by: Laze on January 14, 2005, 04:21:40 am
Could somebody post links to the lastest version of the different ka/pi ko/pi sources?
Title: Ka/pi Or Some Other Address Program
Post by: pgas on January 14, 2005, 04:42:17 am
here?

http://www.pi-sync.net (http://www.pi-sync.net) -- the home page

http://sourceforge.net/projects/kdepimpi/ (http://sourceforge.net/projects/kdepimpi/)    -- the sourceforge project page
Title: Ka/pi Or Some Other Address Program
Post by: zautrix on January 14, 2005, 08:09:41 am
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here?

http://www.pi-sync.net (http://www.pi-sync.net) -- the home page

http://sourceforge.net/projects/kdepimpi/ (http://sourceforge.net/projects/kdepimpi/)    -- the sourceforge project page
Yes!

And to be more precise:

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.p...ckage_id=112604 (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=104103&package_id=112604)

z.
Title: Ka/pi Or Some Other Address Program
Post by: pantau on January 14, 2005, 07:00:48 pm
I was able to compile the applications of the kdepim package 1.9.16. There where only some minor tweaks necessary to make them run.
kapi works ok
kopi works ok
Additional applications in this package are: pwmpi (Passwordmanager), working, ompi (email client) working (partly), kammu (? / untested)
The "problem" with this package is, that it is somehow closely related to qtopia. So there are some additional tweaks necessary to adjust e.g. to the screen size...
Also I was not able to get the alarm functionallity (wakeup from suspend) working, because it also uses qtopia. I think there are some more changes necessary to get this working.
Title: Ka/pi Or Some Other Address Program
Post by: zautrix on January 14, 2005, 07:30:53 pm
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I was able to compile the applications of the kdepim package 1.9.16. There where only some minor tweaks necessary to make them run.
kapi works ok
kopi works ok
Additional applications in this package are: pwmpi (Passwordmanager), working, ompi (email client) working (partly), kammu (? / untested)
The "problem" with this package is, that it is somehow closely related to qtopia. So there are some additional tweaks necessary to adjust e.g. to the screen size...
Also I was not able to get the alarm functionallity (wakeup from suspend) working, because it also uses qtopia. I think there are some more changes necessary to get this working.
KDE-Pim/Pi can be compiled for the Zaurus, for Linux desktop and for Windows.
That means:
There are no tweak necessary to adjust to the screen size.
When compiled for the desktop with qmake;make ( and this should be used for pdaXrom ) it is not at all related to qtopia.
In general there should be no tweaks necessary for compiling for pdaXrom .

kammu is a command line app for syncing mobile phones via IR.
It is called from KO/Pi - KA/Pi.

The alarm applet itself is using the qtopia alarm daemon, such that it is not available on pdaXrom.

z.
Title: Ka/pi Or Some Other Address Program
Post by: cs_jacky on January 19, 2005, 08:22:07 pm
So, how can I get the ipk of the latest version for pdaxrom?  Thanks.
Title: Ka/pi Or Some Other Address Program
Post by: scoutme on January 20, 2005, 09:49:27 am
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So, how can I get the ipk of the latest version for pdaxrom?  Thanks.
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...ehm...

if you want an ipk with the whole system, you should think of a reflashing - no way to use ipkg to install the distro in which ipkg is included

if you want a feed to upgrade ALL packages in your old pdaxrom installation, you're looking for [a href=\"http://mirror1.pdaxrom.org/current/]http://mirror1.pdaxrom.org/current/[/url] ...BUT it's a bad idea trying to upgrade pdaxrom without reflashing, in my opinion. Maybe I'm wrong, almost sure not to be, but you CANNOT port an old installation to the last release by simple package upgrading.

So, you should reflash pdaxrom, after a good backup of your data.
Really worths
Title: Ka/pi Or Some Other Address Program
Post by: cs_jacky on January 25, 2005, 09:29:29 pm
Hi Laze,

Are you compiling the latest kde/pi? Or we need somebody else to do it?  Thanks.

Jacky
Title: Ka/pi Or Some Other Address Program
Post by: Martin on January 26, 2005, 09:38:10 am
Hi :-)

... I'm waiting too for update of ko/pi and ka/pi ... because I want to use desktop sync with Kaddress/Korganizer ... on my SuSE 9.2 / KDE 3.3.x ...

This will fix my problems - doing stupid work - to reimport all data to contact / calender everytime I changed data on my desktop :-(

Hope someone will do it soon *veryhappythen*

THANKS
Martin
Title: Ka/pi Or Some Other Address Program
Post by: Chero on February 01, 2005, 04:43:10 am
Hello,

I'm running pdaXrom RC9 and a debian chroot
I've compiled kopi and kapi 2.0.0 in the debian system
All seems to run nice.
Just changed the config files for icons and the menu to choose "Crd kopi" and "Crd kapi", so now i can launch 2.0.0 instead of the version delivered in the rom (1.9.4).
Will do a bit of testing this evening.

Cheers,
Chero.
Title: Ka/pi Or Some Other Address Program
Post by: cs_jacky on February 01, 2005, 05:22:51 am
Please please please upgrade kdepim to make Zaurus a practical PDA.

My contact and schedule in my PDA and desktop are out of sync! I have to update them twice...

I prefer having RC8 with upgrade kdepim to RC9 with old version kdepim.
Title: Ka/pi Or Some Other Address Program
Post by: jerrybme on February 01, 2005, 09:03:39 am
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Hello,

I'm running pdaXrom RC9 and a debian chroot
I've compiled kopi and kapi 2.0.0 in the debian system
All seems to run nice.
Just changed the config files for icons and the menu to choose "Crd kopi" and "Crd kapi", so now i can launch 2.0.0 instead of the version delivered in the rom (1.9.4).
Will do a bit of testing this evening.

Cheers,
Chero.
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Please let us know how this works out. I checked the apt-get for kopi & didn't find it.
Cheers,
Jerry
Title: Ka/pi Or Some Other Address Program
Post by: Chero on February 01, 2005, 10:45:29 am
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Hello,

I'm running pdaXrom RC9 and a debian chroot
I've compiled kopi and kapi 2.0.0 in the debian system
All seems to run nice.
Just changed the config files for icons and the menu to choose "Crd kopi" and "Crd kapi", so now i can launch 2.0.0 instead of the version delivered in the rom (1.9.4).
Will do a bit of testing this evening.

Cheers,
Chero.
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Please let us know how this works out. I checked the apt-get for kopi & didn't find it.
Cheers,
Jerry
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It's not in teh debian feed !
I downloaded the sources (2.0.0) from the kdepim sourceforge-page and compiled them on my Z - under debian chroot.
Everything was fine untill I switched cf-cards. X-windows crashed due to this switch. (after 11 hours of compiling)
It had already compiled the necessary libs, "kopi", "kapi" and "kammu".
kopi and kapi seem to work just as they should, never used kammu before.
I'll start compilation again this evening, maybe it will be finished and complete by noon tomorrow.

talk to you later,
Chero
Title: Ka/pi Or Some Other Address Program
Post by: jerrybme on February 01, 2005, 02:06:38 pm
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I downloaded the sources (2.0.0) from the kdepim sourceforge-page and compiled them on my Z - under debian chroot.
Everything was fine untill I switched cf-cards. X-windows crashed due to this switch. (after 11 hours of compiling)
Ouch!    

Good luck & I'll keep my fingers crossed for you

Jerry
Title: Ka/pi Or Some Other Address Program
Post by: pgas on February 01, 2005, 04:17:05 pm
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Everything was fine untill I switched cf-cards. X-windows crashed due to this switch. (after 11 hours of compiling)

Why do this to yourself !  

ok i've crosscompiled kdepim 2.0.1, only minor tweaks were required, i'll post what I've done
on the wiki so that you'll be able to compile it yourself later.

For now it is in the unstable feed.

I'm not sure if it can be installed anywhere but in the root partition.
Title: Ka/pi Or Some Other Address Program
Post by: Chero on February 01, 2005, 04:46:08 pm
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Everything was fine untill I switched cf-cards. X-windows crashed due to this switch. (after 11 hours of compiling)

Why do this to yourself !  

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Just curious if it was possible under debian chroot (and got tired of waiting untill someone else did it.)
It was quite easy under debian, just took a lot af waiting.

Thanks for compiling it for pdaX !!

BTW, it wasn't in the feed when i started compiling - my guess is that you uploaded just before posting here  

I guess there will be no need for my results any longer.

Chero.
Title: Ka/pi Or Some Other Address Program
Post by: pgas on February 02, 2005, 01:45:13 am
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BTW, it wasn't in the feed when i started compiling - my guess is that you uploaded just before posting here

You are right, I choose to try to compile it after seeing that some people wanted it a lot and I thought that to install debian was a little overkill.  But I think that I start to compile it after you, cross compilation is much faster (still took >2 hours on my p3 500).

I prefered not to announce that i was going to try before because I would have most probably  been giving up  if things had gone wrong.
Title: Ka/pi Or Some Other Address Program
Post by: Chero on February 02, 2005, 03:17:14 am
Hello,

I installed (ipkg install kdepim because the package manager didn't show kdepim).
This installed kdepim 2.0.1.
So far so good, but
kopi won't start (relocation error ..... _ZN12KSyncManager19mRequestedSyncEventE)
kapi won't start (the same)

Do you know what is missing ?
(as for now, maybe my debian workaround wasn't such a bad idea   )

Chero.
Title: Ka/pi Or Some Other Address Program
Post by: pgas on February 02, 2005, 03:23:32 am
Did you uninstall previous version of kdepim?

I got this error when kopi was loading previous version of the libs.

Maybe older version stays in ram also? I don't know exactly the mechanism involved with shared libs.

(edit Oh and I never think it was a bad idea, I was impressed by the kind of manipulation you were doing)
Title: Ka/pi Or Some Other Address Program
Post by: pgas on February 02, 2005, 03:32:18 am
As for the package manager I don't know, maybe it doesn't like to find several packages with the same name, when installing kdepim with ipkg, it told me that it requires bluezlibs, though I didn't put any dependencies in the control file.....
Title: Ka/pi Or Some Other Address Program
Post by: Chero on February 02, 2005, 04:26:14 am
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Did you uninstall previous version of kdepim?

I got this error when kopi was loading previous version of the libs.

Maybe older version stays in ram also? I don't know exactly the mechanism involved with shared libs.

(edit Oh and I never think it was a bad idea, I was impressed by the kind of manipulation you were doing)
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I didn't remove first, maybe that's my problem.
locate seems to find two kopi's - neither or them can be started.

About the "bad idea", I was only joking.
I'm impressed with what I can do in the debian chroot and was only compiling for fun - as a test. I also compiled tuxcards 1.2 on it (works great).
My goal is getting "Qgis" to work on pdaX or debian. It's in the debian feed, but doesn't render correctly. Recompiling will take quite long, I guess, but I still want to give it a try. Maybe I should setup the cross-compiler and try to get it running on pdaX first, this might not take that long.
Does the cross-compiler include qt3-libs ?

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As for the package manager I don't know, maybe it doesn't like to find several packages with the same name, when installing kdepim with ipkg, it told me that it requires bluezlibs, though I didn't put any dependencies in the control file.....
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I remember something about the bluezlibs from previous posts, so this could be right, though I seem to recall that zautrix didn't put any dependancies to it.

Try to make a fresh and clean install this evening.

Chero.
Title: Ka/pi Or Some Other Address Program
Post by: pgas on February 02, 2005, 04:33:38 am
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Does the cross-compiler include qt3-libs ?

I believe so.
Title: Ka/pi Or Some Other Address Program
Post by: jerrybme on February 02, 2005, 11:46:49 am
pgas:
Great work on compiling kdepim for pdaxrom-thanks!

It was a little hairy getting it to install as I had to make enough room in /. Besides the old version of kdepim, I had to remove sylpheed and a few other apps to make room.

If you ever get a chance to break the suite into seperate apps that would be great so those of us with less RAM (C700 & C750 users) don't have to use a shoe horn to get it to fit  .

Thanks again,
Jerry
Title: Ka/pi Or Some Other Address Program
Post by: pgas on February 03, 2005, 03:50:37 am
Not that I tried to install kdepim on my ext2 formatted SD card and it seems to work.

As for splitting kdepim into several ipk, I won't do it but  anybody that now how to:

- copy files from one place to another
- use tar
- edit a text file

can try to do it. making an ipkg is very simple, just a bit boring.
Title: Ka/pi Or Some Other Address Program
Post by: gromituk on May 10, 2005, 02:24:50 pm
Hi pgas.  I don't suppose you have any idea why kapi (both 1.9.4 and 2.0.1) sits there consuming CPU - about 14% on my 860?
Title: Ka/pi Or Some Other Address Program
Post by: pgas on May 10, 2005, 03:24:40 pm
no, except that it does the same thing on mine!

hmm I must admit i don't use it a lot... but now when i start it constantly redraws the screen several time before it stops...maybe some redrawing problem....
Title: Ka/pi Or Some Other Address Program
Post by: pgas on May 10, 2005, 03:25:42 pm
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