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Everything Else => General Support and Discussion => Zaurus General Forums => Archived Forums => Software => Topic started by: TimW on March 14, 2005, 12:07:38 pm
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I'm pretty sure I've lost track of who I've promised what recently. If anyone is waiting for something from me and hasn't yet had it, feel free to remind me.
I'm notoriously absent-minded and I had a spell in hospital recently which seems to have made it worse (temporarily, I hope) so please bear with me and do please remind me of any outstanding unfulfilled promises.
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I'm pretty sure I've lost track of who I've promised what recently. If anyone is waiting for something from me and hasn't yet had it, feel free to remind me.
I'm notoriously absent-minded and I had a spell in hospital recently which seems to have made it worse (temporarily, I hope) so please bear with me and do please remind me of any outstanding unfulfilled promises.
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Hi Tim
Sorry to hear that you have been unwell. I hope you are now fully recovered and feeling better.
So far as I am concerned a little absent mindedness is quite normal so don’t fret too much about that.
Opie Reader is an essential Zaurus app and I am looking forward to using it on a C1000 (just as soon as it becomes available).
While I recall some recent discussion on the app, I can't be sure of specifics, sorry.
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Hope you're ok Tim ;-)
-Francis
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hope you are well tim. take your time with respect to underline of links.
tovarish
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it useful for me
http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/library/HA/00001.html (http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/library/HA/00001.html)
hope can help
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tovarish: Underlining! That was one which I had forgotten. That makes me feel a bit better but I think that there is at least one more....
sepsep: Like the link and I generally follow the advice, but I'm pretty sure the bulk of it is due to the after effects of general anesthesia which the Surgeon reckons'll last about 6 months in my particular case (and I'm 3 months in already).
All, thanks for the well-wishes. The problem is potentially pretty serious (can't quite bring myself to type the C word) but I'm hoping, with good reason rather than just PMA, that after my next test I'll be able to say "I'm all clear now".
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wish you all the best. And thanks for the already wonderful opie-reader package
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The problem is potentially pretty serious (can't quite bring myself to type the C word) but I'm hoping, with good reason rather than just PMA, that after my next test I'll be able to say "I'm all clear now".
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Oh! I didnt know it was that serious. My wishes again for your good health and my thanks for opie reader. It is the most used program in my Z.
tovarish
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Dear Tim,
best wishes for your health from me too.
Sam
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Tim,
Hope you're feeling better. I just wanted to say that I've enjoyed using Opie Reader. It is one of the most professional and useful programs I've found for the Z.
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Tim,
Hope you're feeling better. I just wanted to say that I've enjoyed using Opie Reader. It is one of the most professional and useful programs I've found for the Z.
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I second that. Best wishes from me
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I also want to thank you for that great software. It made my switch from a PalmOS device with plucker possible, and the number of options and configurability of Opie-reader is better than plucker!
I'm having weird problems with the reader lately. In particular, the behavior when opening multiple files and then trying to close one is strange... it simply doesn't close one. The program refuses to close completely when that happens, and can only be "kill"ed. By multiple files, i mean in that list of "quick open" files. This description probably isn't making much sense, because i never did really figure out how it's supposed to work. The other problem involves full screen mode. If the Z blanks or goes into standby, it comes back in a weird semi-fullscreen mode.
As far as requests... highlighting and annoting behaves erratically, and i'm not sure if it's not fully implemented or what. My personal mini-wish would be a quick-bookmark (like a ribbon), a simple icon or tab that allows quick switching between several locations, that could also be set quickly.
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I'm having weird problems with the reader lately. In particular, the behavior when opening multiple files and then trying to close one is strange... it simply doesn't close one. The program refuses to close completely when that happens, and can only be "kill"ed. By multiple files, i mean in that list of "quick open" files. This description probably isn't making much sense, because i never did really figure out how it's supposed to work.
The "quick open" file list is a compromise between having a full "Multi-Document Interface" (MDI) and limiting the amount of memory and screen estate a tru MDI solution would require. Basically, any file on the MDI list has its state (including, optionally, its display and layout settings). If you have saved a config with the same name as the file which you are about to open (which is the default when you save a config) then the config gets loaded too. Otherwise, only the current position in the file is saved plus some format specific information (IIRC this is currently limited to the list of visited links in Plucker documents).
This enables you to get most of the benefits of an MDI but you don't actually have to have the file buffers etc in memory, and you don't lose any of the display to tabs etc (which may not be so important on the larger screen devices but is very important on my SL5000 8^) ).
All the info required to maintain that list is stored in a file which you can get to by opening a terminal and typing
ls -al ~/Applications/uqtreader
You should see two files and two directories (in some ROMs you might have to do
cd
ls -al Applications/uqtreader
because the home directory is different in the terminal than when running from the GUI).
The file of interest here is ".openfiles". It sounds like yours may have become read-only for some reason so try and delete it (but remember that this will remove *all* files from the list of open files):
cd
rm -f Applications/uqtreader/.openfiles
Let me know what happens and I may be able to help further if more is required.
The other problem involves full screen mode. If the Z blanks or goes into standby, it comes back in a weird semi-fullscreen mode.
Qtopia doesn't properly support a fullscreen mode so it is almost impossible to get it working completely correctly. My implementation is based on a howto published on the sharp developer site but it still doesn't really work properly. In the latest version (I'm not sure if it is in 0.7h or if you need my current unstable) you can hide the tools and status bar and get full screen except for the launcher bar at the bottom (which otherwise persistently tries to overwrite whatever you write on the screen) so may be more useable for you.
As far as requests... highlighting and annoting behaves erratically, and i'm not sure if it's not fully implemented or what.
In what way does it behave erratically? It should be fully implemented but I have to admit that I never use it so it doesn't get tested very often so may get broken without me noticing from time to time.
My personal mini-wish would be a quick-bookmark (like a ribbon), a simple icon or tab that allows quick switching between several locations, that could also be set quickly.
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How does that differ from the current bookmarking? You can put the "Bookmark Here" and "Goto Bookmark" icons on the toolbar which enable you to mark the current position by tapping on the icon (and then editing the default name supplied which is based on the first word on the page, if required) and will let you go to a bookmark by tapping on the other icon and then tapping on whichever bookmark you require. If you want to make bookmarks even more easily you can set it so that screen taps call up the annotation dialog (an annotation is just a bookmark with added text so you don't have to add any extra text). What am I missing? (Again, I seldom use bookmarks so it wouldn't surprise me if I hadn't quite got the functionality right).
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Hi tim
When I change to fullscreen mode I get this black space (the area is same as the non text area in normal mode). The black area goes away on pgup or pgdn. I wonder if you know about this bug.
Is it possible to add more functionality to the quick document list like sort by name, last time opened, size, etc, present document is selected so scrolling from top is not necessary.
Like plucker for palm is it also possible to show the quick document list when no further "back" is possible (in other words opened document is in its home page). This would really help me with one hand operation (quick document list -> open document -> use fingers for links ...-> back ...-> back to quick document list -> new document).
I know I am asking a lot with your current health but as long as it is in the wishlist I dont care how long it takes.
Lastly I would like to take a look at the current unstable version if possible.
thanks
tovarish
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When I change to fullscreen mode I get this black space (the area is same as the non text area in normal mode). The black area goes away on pgup or pgdn. I wonder if you know about this bug.
Maybe. Which device, rom and opie-reader version? Does it go away if you disable double-buffering (Settings/Misc tab)? Does it go away in the current version (see below).
Is it possible to add more functionality to the quick document list like sort by name, last time opened, size, etc, present document is selected so scrolling from top is not necessary.
I've tried to keep the amount of data stored about each file quite small but I should be able to add most of this, plus anything else which people think is worthwhile given that I'll be storing more data in the flash area (actually in ~/Applications which I've moved to SD on my device).
Like plucker for palm is it also possible to show the quick document list when no further "back" is possible (in other words opened document is in its home page). This would really help me with one hand operation (quick document list -> open document -> use fingers for links ...-> back ...-> back to quick document list -> new document).
I'll take a look.
Lastly I would like to take a look at the current unstable version if possible.
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Someone is sorting me out some webspace which I should be able to maintain more easily. There is a moderately recent version for Sharp ROMs at [a href=\"http://www.timwentford.uklinux.net/opie-reader_0.7i_arm.ipk]this link[/url] but if you want the absolute latest, or an opie version e-mail me at timwentford at hotmail dot com any time.
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Maybe. Which device, rom and opie-reader version? Does it go away if you disable double-buffering (Settings/Misc tab)? Does it go away in the current version (see below).
C860, Cacko 1.22 (sharp rom), version 0.7h. It doesnt go away with version 0.7i but does go away with double buffering unchecked.
Note: the options frame is larger than the screen area for landscape mode.
I've tried to keep the amount of data stored about each file quite small but I should be able to add most of this, plus anything else which people think is worthwhile given that I'll be storing more data in the flash area (actually in ~/Applications which I've moved to SD on my device).
cool, my only gripe is that I have a long list of documents and positions are fifo based to scrolling to the right doc and searching for it is a bit difficult.
Like plucker for palm is it also possible to show the quick document list when no further "back" is possible (in other words opened document is in its home page). This would really help me with one hand operation (quick document list -> open document -> use fingers for links ...-> back ...-> back to quick document list -> new document).
I'll take a look.
thanks...
if you want the absolute latest, or an opie version e-mail me at timwentford at hotmail dot com any time.
I would like the bleeding edge but for the sharp rom. Is there much difference between the latest opie and the latest sharp versions. I hope the underlining of links could be turned off or on too. sent you an email...
thanks
tovarish
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Just a note to say get well soon.
Should have said it sooner really.
When I first got the Z you helped me get the reader working and was very helpful.
Thanks
Chas
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I would like the bleeding edge but for the sharp rom. Is there much difference between the latest opie and the latest sharp versions. I hope the underlining of links could be turned off or on too. sent you an email...
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There is no difference in functionality between the opie and Sharp versions. They are different due to the sizes for fonts which the fontdatabase gives back being different by an order of 10 (probably a bug in qt/e 2.3.2 or Qtopia 1.5.4 which is fixed in later versions but has to be worked around for the Sharp ROMs) and, of course, the opie build requires a more up to date version of gcc.
I'll try and get the underlining option added and send you a new version. (and thanks for the info regarding full screen mode).
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hi tim
is it possible to have opiereader show text in all four orientations instead of the 2 that it doest now
thanks
tovarish
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Hi Tim: I really wish you will be ok now, your program is essential for me. Perhaps ahead I´ll give you some return of the problem I have that is not very important.
Sincerely
Baptista
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hi tim
is it possible to have opiereader show text in all four orientations instead of the 2 that it doest now
thanks
tovarish
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Possible, yes. Easy, no. Worthwhile, maybe.
The rotation stuff was only put in as an interim measure when one of the Sharp ROMs broke the ability for a user to open an app already rotated (IIRC [a href=\"http://www.timwentford.uklinux.net/opie-reader-rotated_2.00_noarch.ipk]there is an ipk[/url] for a desktop entry to open opie-reader rotated on my website but I don't think it works on the current Sharp ROM - but of course I can't verify that as there is no Sharp ROM for the SL5000D though the last time I tried it in one of the compatible ROMs it didn't work). That is why I haven't bothered to change the sense of the cursor buttons etc.
Under the OZ/opie ROMs you can rotate on the fly in any direction you want without requiring any support from the app so the rotation is wasted for opie.
So, if the Sharp ROMs ever regain their ability to open apps in rotated mode, nobody will ever need the rotation in opie-reader. OTOH, this is looking increasingly unlikely but it may be worth trying the above ipk on one of the current roms (any volunteers?) and if that doesn't work I'll take a look.
In the meantime I did have a script which let you open any app in any rotation which was on the old message boards which may be worth searching for.
Here is what I managed to find:
From: Greg Gilbert <greg.a.t.treke.net>
Date: Wed Sep 18 2002 - 12:28:05 EDT
* Tim Wentford (timwentford@hotmail.com) wrote:
> *This is the script for anyone interested - works on Zaurus when starting
> from default rotation - YMMV:
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> qcop QPE/System "setDefaultRotation(int)" 180
> qcop QPE/System "execute(QString)" uqtreader
> qcop QPE/System "setDefaultRotation(int)" 270
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> Anyone want to do an Opie-sh script which works for any app?
You can also change the .desktop file to contain a Rotation field,
and then the launcher will happily rotate the application when you
start it. Rotation=90 will rotate it 90 degrees from the
frame buffer's natural orientation.
Greg
Greg's method is the one which is broken in the current ROM but my original method should still work. I'll take a look at how much work it would be but any implementation will probably have to wait until I get a sizable gap on my to-do list (which doesn't happen too often 8^) ).
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i had tried those methods but they dont work in tne cxxx cacko/sharp roms
the reason for asking this functionality is that when the c860 is in tablet mode landscape the jog dial is at the bottom of the screen making page turning inconvenient
i am not in a hurry
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Hi Tim, great program btw!
I'm trying to view Plucker documents, built with Plucker on windows. The documents do load in OpieReader, but all the images are gone! I see in the parameters that there is support for "Larger plucker images", so I can only assume it is supposed to work.
What could be wrong?
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They work for me. Here are a couple of things to check in jPluck to make sure it's creating images:
In JPluck, did you check your formatting option to make sure you're embedding images? The other possibility would be the "Restrict to" option for the specific site, could it be restricting you away from where the site stores their images? I have mine set to "none".
BTW, I posted the scripts you asked about on the other thread.
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Hi Tim, great program btw!
I'm trying to view Plucker documents, built with Plucker on windows. The documents do load in OpieReader, but all the images are gone! I see in the parameters that there is support for "Larger plucker images", so I can only assume it is supposed to work.
What could be wrong?
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Sorry for the late reply but I was away for a few days. OTOH Tehas has pretty much said what I would have (thanks, Tehas) so hopefully you are up and running. Let me know if you are still having problems.
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They work for me. Here are a couple of things to check in jPluck to make sure it's creating images:
In JPluck, did you check your formatting option to make sure you're embedding images? The other possibility would be the "Restrict to" option for the specific site, could it be restricting you away from where the site stores their images? I have mine set to "none".
BTW, I posted the scripts you asked about on the other thread.
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About the other thread: Thanks! I'll be trying that promptly
Okay i forgot to mention that these Plucker documents were readable on my Clié T615c, and i just moved them to my newly acquired Zaurus. So I know for sure that the images are in it and that, by itself, the document is fine.
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If you can send an example document to me I can take a look at it (timwentford AT hotmail DOT com).
Which ROM and which version of opie-reader are you using?
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TimW: I'm using the Watapon 1.6.1 ROM on my Poddle SL-5600 unit. The OpieReader version is 0.7h according to the Uninstall Packages program. I downlaoded it from that link: http://www.timwentford.uklinux.net/opie-reader_0.7h_arm.ipk (http://www.timwentford.uklinux.net/opie-reader_0.7h_arm.ipk)
I will email you a test document that I know works for sure on my Clié in a few minutes.
Thanks for you time
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For the record of this forum, we fixed the problem. In the "LAYOUT2" options menu, I had Markup set to "text" instead of "AUTO".
Also, version 0.7h of OpieReader had difficulties reading the images of my Plucker documents. Version 0.7i which will be out soon, fixes that.
Thanks Tim!
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Tim, I'd like to add my best wishes,too; opiereader is great, and your help invaluable.
All the best,
Chris.
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Tim,
I've just found reading this thread of your health problems. I'd like to give you my best wishes for a quick and complete recovery, your opie-reader is one of the packages I use the most.
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Okay, this is going to sound backwards to some of you, but here it goes.
I am in the market for a new handheld, one which will read my existing fiction files (mostly HTML and iSilo), so OpieReader seems like a great solution. Now I just need a machine to run it!
I am a Linux novice, and I don't really want to become an expert, at least not right away. If I buy one of the recent clamshell Zaurii (Dynamism or eBay), which ROMs could I use and still have OpieReader run? Better yet, which ROMs will it run on without a lot of tweaking. Has anyone tried OpieReader on the Archos PMA430? Any chance it will work with the new Nokia 770 (Maemo platform)?
Thanks in advance!
Jack
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I am in the market for a new handheld, one which will read my existing fiction files (mostly HTML and iSilo), so OpieReader seems like a great solution. Now I just need a machine to run it!
I am a Linux novice, and I don't really want to become an expert, at least not right away. If I buy one of the recent clamshell Zaurii (Dynamism or eBay), which ROMs could I use and still have OpieReader run? Better yet, which ROMs will it run on without a lot of tweaking.
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IMO, you'll want to use a sharp rom or cacko as these are the best out-of-the-box in terms of stability, features, and user-friendliness. I've been using Opie Reader on a C760 & C860 with cacko for two years without any problem. Installation is tweak-free and it runs great.
d.
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IMO, you'll want to use a sharp rom or cacko as these are the best out-of-the-box in terms of stability, features, and user-friendliness. I've been using Opie Reader on a C760 & C860 with cacko for two years without any problem. Installation is tweak-free and it runs great.
Thanks for the info... Now I just have to decide if I should wait and see or jump straight in. Time to look for some deals.
Jack