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Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: CoreDump on March 14, 2005, 04:13:53 pm
Hello all!

A OZ 3.5.3 pre-release is available at http://oz.hentges.net/snapshots/ (http://oz.hentges.net/snapshots/).
Currently, there's only a collie Opie image online, more will be added when someone finds the time to build them  

The feed isn't complete. It only contains Opie packages. In the final release you'll find all packages from 3.5.2 (and more).

Please help the OZ team with testing this ROM. Each and every bug you encounter with this ROM is
very likely to be found in the final release.

So, if you encounter problems, please reply to this thread.

Thanks
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: Elleomea on March 14, 2005, 06:35:32 pm
Warns about using an unexpected kernel on boot, then sleeps for a minute, boots fine after that though.

System information still reports being 3.5.2 (I'm fairly sure it flashed the image correctly though, since it has the 3.5.3 feed setup by default as well as the 3.5.3PreRelease kernel).

I managed to break the opie configuration by going in to the timezone setting dialog then pressing back (just shows the background and the next and back buttons, disabled).

Package manager's confirm package list changes dialog is too small, only the tops of the okay/cancel buttons are visible.

But, and for this I will profess my love to you lot, it now wakes up for alarms again, which is something I was greatly missing in 3.5.2.

That's all I've checked so far, will continue playing, seems nice overall though.
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: layers on March 14, 2005, 10:31:24 pm
i will flash this and check it out, but i wonder first, can i install packages from 3.5.2 feeds? or is it what you see is what you get?
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: CoreDump on March 14, 2005, 11:18:18 pm
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Warns about using an unexpected kernel on boot, then sleeps for a minute, boots fine after that though.
Ooops, that's my fault. I'll upload a new ROM later today. You shouldn't bee seeing this in the official release. But don't worry, apart from the warning, the kernel does match the initrd.bin.

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System information still reports being 3.5.2 (I'm fairly sure it flashed the image correctly though, since it has the 3.5.3 feed setup by default as well as the 3.5.3PreRelease kernel).

SysInfo should report Openzaurus-3.5.2-snapshot${DATE} IIRC
This is normal until 3.5.3 is released.

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I managed to break the opie configuration by going in to the timezone setting dialog then pressing back (just shows the background and the next and back buttons, disabled).

Can't reproduce ATM

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Package manager's confirm package list changes dialog is too small, only the tops of the okay/cancel buttons are visible.

Confirmed.

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But, and for this I will profess my love to you lot, it now wakes up for alarms again, which is something I was greatly missing in 3.5.2.

That's all I've checked so far, will continue playing, seems nice overall though.
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Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: CoreDump on March 14, 2005, 11:19:32 pm
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i will flash this and check it out, but i wonder first, can i install packages from 3.5.2 feeds? or is it what you see is what you get?
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It's the latter. We need feedback about the current status of the ROM. It wouldn't make much sense to install old packages, would it?
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: layers on March 14, 2005, 11:52:49 pm
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It's the latter. We need feedback about the current status of the ROM. It wouldn't make much sense to install old packages, would it?
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well i have a good configuration right now, so i was basically wondering if i could link my already-installed-to-SD appz or if they would be incompatible.

nm.
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: CoreDump on March 15, 2005, 10:19:50 am
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It's the latter. We need feedback about the current status of the ROM. It wouldn't make much sense to install old packages, would it?
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well i have a good configuration right now, so i was basically wondering if i could link my already-installed-to-SD appz or if they would be incompatible.

nm.
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It's worth a try, no guarantees though
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: woloi on March 16, 2005, 11:43:32 am
I can't seem to get wireless working.  I need to use a WEP key for my WLAN (college network), and it seems to have major problems.  All I know is that it "finds" the network, but can't get on it and aquire an IP.  It's exactly the same as under 3.5.2.

This is quite annoying, as with the older ROMs it worked fine, but now with the OE ROMs, it just doesn't want to work.
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: matthias.meyser on March 16, 2005, 12:18:35 pm
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So, if you encounter problems, please reply to this thread.

I just flashed my zaurus an tried to exchange Data with my Siemens S45 mobile phone.

Sending one contact from S45 to Z via irda works well.
Sending more than one entry dosn`t. S45 say x entries send
but on Z only get one (the first).

perhaps this is a S45 related problem.

mm
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: ironstorm on March 18, 2005, 01:18:55 am
It would be nice if 3.5.3-final could be the first 3.5.x release to include working timezones...   (i.e. New York and LA should be 3 hours apart and they should be 5 and 8 hours behind London respectively)

This snapshot also fails in that respect.
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: ironstorm on March 18, 2005, 01:47:45 am
Package Manager allows selections of unmounted targets...
Package Manager also reports "Space Avail" as unknown on my 256MB SD card...  until packages start installing... then it updates.
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: francois.mean on March 18, 2005, 05:31:44 am
Quote from: CoreDump,Mar 14 2005, 08:18 PM
Quote from: Elleomea,Mar 14 2005, 11:35 PM
Warns about using an unexpected kernel on boot, then sleeps for a minute, boots fine after that though.
Ooops, that's my fault. I'll upload a new ROM later today. You shouldn't bee seeing this in the official release. But don't worry, apart from the warning, the kernel does match the initrd.bin.

Have you done the change ? It still sleep 1min at boot time  
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: Mickeyl on March 18, 2005, 06:34:18 am
rm /etc/init.d/checkversion*
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: ironstorm on March 24, 2005, 12:42:32 am
Looks like the address book is messed up... the Letter selections don't filter and it doesn't appear any of the entries are in order either...
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: CoreDump on March 24, 2005, 04:46:58 am
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Looks like the address book is messed up... the Letter selections don't filter and it doesn't appear any of the entries are in order either...
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Correct, there were some changes after the preview release which hopefully correct any issues for
the Opie 1.2.0 / OZ 3.5.3 release.

Thanks goes to _alwin_ @ #opie.de
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: drw on March 24, 2005, 03:39:09 pm
CoreDump,

I will be glad to do an Opie/clamshell build after we tag Opie 1.2.0 (plan on doing it anyway for my device), probably Saturday.  Would I be able to put the image/feeds up on your site?  If not, I can probably add it on my handhelds.org home dir.

Dan
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: anonuk on March 24, 2005, 06:00:49 pm
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CoreDump,

I will be glad to do an Opie/clamshell build after we tag Opie 1.2.0 (plan on doing it anyway for my device), probably Saturday.  Would I be able to put the image/feeds up on your site?  If not, I can probably add it on my handhelds.org home dir.

Dan
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Great! I tried to build an 860 image but ran out of hdd space. Looking forward to it :-)
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: CoreDump on March 24, 2005, 06:51:06 pm
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CoreDump,

I will be glad to do an Opie/clamshell build after we tag Opie 1.2.0 (plan on doing it anyway for my device), probably Saturday.  Would I be able to put the image/feeds up on your site?  If not, I can probably add it on my handhelds.org home dir.

Dan
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I'd be happy to host the files. Contact me via IRC.
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: drw on March 26, 2005, 05:23:46 pm
I have uploaded an Opie c7x0 image and feed to:

http://oz.hentges.net/snapshots/3.5.3-1/c7x0/ (http://oz.hentges.net/snapshots/3.5.3-1/c7x0/)

Please checkout the README for updating the ipkg feed directory.

Enjoy!
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: anonuk on March 26, 2005, 07:29:26 pm
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I have uploaded an Opie c7x0 image and feed to:

http://oz.hentges.net/snapshots/3.5.3-1/c7x0/ (http://oz.hentges.net/snapshots/3.5.3-1/c7x0/)

you da man!!!  downloading now :-)
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: Richjn on March 29, 2005, 06:20:45 am
Sorry if this is old news and I'm the only person not to already know this but if you haven't noticed take a look at sysinfo and check the kernel out    2.6.11-3.5.3

Way to go Guys
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: lardman on March 29, 2005, 04:28:56 pm
I'm running a slightly older ROM (Opie 1.1.9-snapshot 8th March 2005, with the 2.6.11 kernel on my C750).

For some reason I don't have a working USB connection - any clues? I thought about insmod'ing net_fd.o only to find out that the 2.6.x kernels use something different (in fact lsmod shows no modules loaded at all! - very odd).

Anyone have any suggestions (about getting networking working)?

Actually I'll download the snapshot and try that so we can all be talking about the same thing.

That said, if anyone can explain why I have no modules loaded, that would be interesting.

Thanks :-),


Si
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: Elleomea on March 29, 2005, 06:09:00 pm
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Anyone have any suggestions (about getting networking working)? [div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=72709\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
usbnet module?

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Perhaps all the common components are compiled in to the kernel, rather than as modules?
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: lardman on March 30, 2005, 06:59:41 am
One more thing, not really a bug, more of a usability issue - how's about having the date/time applet default to a slightly more recent date than 1/1/1970.

I'd have thought that defaulting to the build date would be good, but if that's not possible, how's abaout 1/1/2005.

It's a pain if you're testing/etc. and have to keep scrolling though 35 years to set the time correctly.


Si

P.S. I've flashed the new image now and will see if my networking issues remain.

P.P.S. How's about including fsck.ext2 and fsck.msdos (name?) in the standard image. These would be useful.
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: DWebb82 on March 30, 2005, 04:57:03 pm
Folks,
    Is there a test release for the SL-5600 yet?  I have the 5500 and the test release is great!  I just recently bought a 5600 and I am wanting to roll up my sleeves and get down and dirty with 3.5.3.  Congrats and thanks to the developers that have engineered the greatest Embedded OS for the Zaurus!


Keep It Up Guys!,

Dave
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: OchiLAN on March 30, 2005, 06:52:41 pm
I'd love to test this on my SL-5600, too! Until 3.5.3 is final I can do anything with my little machine and test it thoroughly as there's no important system or data on it right now. I've been observing (and using) OZ since 3.5.1 and I want to help making it more stable, more useful and more fun to use but I don't know how to build it myself (yet).

Ochi
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: Fray on March 31, 2005, 01:38:42 am
Nice update, thanks as always for your work.  Installation was smooth -- I even left the SD card in on the first boot and no troubles.

Here's one problem I encountered that doesn't seem to have been mentioned yet.  I'm using Collie (SL-5500).

I'm having trouble setting the date.  Any time I set the date and hit OK, the date resets to Jan 1, 2003, and any other settings I changed on the dialog (i.e. the time) are lost.  If I just change the time, the time will work okay.

I also noticed that it still takes a really long time (6-10 seconds) to become responsive after waking up from sleep.  I know that's an old problem, just confirming that I'm still seeing it.

Looking forward to 3.5.3!
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: lardman on March 31, 2005, 12:06:31 pm
I've got an interesting one, more of a comment that a bug (so far).

With the image linked above, my Z (C750) is at least recognised by WinXP, but as "RNDIS/Ethernet Gadget", for which it can find no drivers (locally - i.e. on the installation disks).

I just did a quick google for RNDIS, and I suppose it ought to work as the driver seems to have been written for the purpose of keeping Windows' CDCEther implementation happy (I only read it quickly, I may have got the wrong end of the stick), I'll see if Windows update will turn up the drivers. If not, this is an issue as some people do still have to use Windows.


Si
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: leland on March 31, 2005, 12:52:23 pm
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I have uploaded an Opie c7x0 image and feed to:

http://oz.hentges.net/snapshots/3.5.3-1/c7x0/ (http://oz.hentges.net/snapshots/3.5.3-1/c7x0/)

Please checkout the README for updating the ipkg feed directory.

Enjoy!
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That's great! Are the issues with ALSA worked out with the 2.6 kernel, or will it still be using OSS ?
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: Mickeyl on March 31, 2005, 02:07:25 pm
ALSA finally works fine with arm-linux-2.6 general. As I've said in a different post (named kernel 2.6 or so), it's still a question of the driver. There is no ALSA driver for the Corgi sound hardware yet.
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: Cwiiis on March 31, 2005, 09:01:09 pm
Stay tuned for a pre-release of the gpe-image for collie - notable changes since 3.5.2:
- Working resume
- Working shortcut keys
- Updated applications
- Minimo web-browser package
- Fixed theme issues
- Sub-pixel anti-aliasing enabled by default

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Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: Sniffer on March 31, 2005, 09:09:41 pm
oooooo looks good, I 'll definently try that pre-release.

Good work guys.
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: ironstorm on March 31, 2005, 10:56:56 pm
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- Minimo web-browser package

Good stuff... I'm drooling with anticipation...  
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: victorhooi on April 01, 2005, 01:09:20 am
Hi,

Can't wait for it   ?

Personally, I think GPE is prettier than OPIE (maybe I'm weird ) but for some reason, on GPE-3.5.2, once I logout or whatever, my Zaurus-5550 won't turn on again....

I have to reflash it all over again to get it to even start up again. Very strange.

I tried the 3.5.3 Opie Pre-Release, but for some reason the device won't even turn on after flashing....

Well, hopefully I'll be luckier with this new one *excited grin*

cya,
Victor
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: reclusivemonkey on April 01, 2005, 11:06:04 am
WOW. CoreDump does it again!

I first got my Zaurus some time ago and very quickly switched from the default Sharp ROM to OpenZaurus. It was great, everything worked, I could play audio and video, network, browse websites, everything I wanted from a PDA. I'm not really fussed about developing on it, I'm not really bothered about PIM, its more of a media player for me. Anyhow, next OpenZaurus update and everything went tits up. The new ROM simply wouldn't flash, and for the life of me I couldn't find the previous ROMs. After several months of frustration, the new ROMs finally started to install but still I couldn't get my Zaurus back to where it was. Then along came CoreDump's SD release and finally I could play audio on my Zaurus. However, with all the trouble I had with my Zaurus, I was looking at a CF/SD reader for my GBA SP and the Zaurus was going back on eBay. Then I noticed CoreDump's pre-release... well as the his was the only ROM I ever managed to get to work for me, I thought it had to be worth a try...

Its excellent. Opie media player now works, so I finally have video back. Using ipkg from the command line is not a problem, apps install easily to SD. I tried just about all the Opie apps I could think of a use for me personally and everyone of them installed till I ran out of space on root. Opie Eye was the only one that didn't work. The new icons look beautiful and I don't know whether its just me but the battery life seems _much_ longer. Hopefully OpenZaurus is back on track and we can go back to making all other PDA users green with envy!
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: lardman on April 01, 2005, 11:27:17 am
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With the image linked above, my Z (C750) is at least recognised by WinXP, but as "RNDIS/Ethernet Gadget", for which it can find no drivers (locally - i.e. on the installation disks).

Even attached to the 'net and Windows update, WinXP couldn't find any drivers for the device.

Any ideas? FYI VID=0525 PID=A4A2


Si
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: lardman on April 01, 2005, 11:59:52 am
A bit of a google later and I have a solution.

Point the installation wizard at the linux.inf file in Documentation/usb/linux.inf in the kernel source (needs to be converted to Windows format first probably - unix2dos, etc.).

Attached for your convenience.


Si
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: Storm on April 02, 2005, 12:34:54 am
Since I just got my SL-5500, and am trying to decide on a ROM to use, I tried the 3.5.3 beta. I must say the desktop and new icons look excellent.


The one thing I am still having problems with (and one of the reasons I stepped away from OZ 3.5.2 and started experimenting with other ROMs) is that sometimes (and I haven't exactly pinned down the root cause...I hope someone can point it out to me) I will hit the On/Off button to turn the unit off, it will go off (suspend, I'm assuming here). But when I try to turn it back on, it doesn't come back on. I wind up having to hit the normal operation/battery change button on the back and soft reset it. Does anyone know the cause of this?

A little more info: I have had this happen to me in the last hour, twice while in the contacts manager, once on the desktop and once after using the console and package manager.

Also, a request. Can OZ use the network app from Cacko? That was one of the features I really appreciated from Cacko. The fact that I could have multiple configurations and click an icon in the appbar then enable a specific config for the wireless card. If you can do this with the OZ network tool, I haven't figured it out. I also noticed that usb networking with my Debian laptop doesn't seem to work under OZ. I get usb 2-2: device descriptor read/64. error -71 when attaching the cradle + Zaurus. In Cacko, it works.

Over all, I like OZ. Keep up the good work.

Regards,
--Storm
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: victorhooi on April 02, 2005, 02:43:32 am
Hi,

Yeah, I'm getting the same error as Storm, except it happens all the time . After flashing with 3.5.3, it doesn't turn on. And when using GPE 3.5.2, once you suspend, it won't turn back on.

None of these problems occur with Opie 3.5.3, or with the officials.

Storm: Could you check if get the "won't turn on" error with different roms? (eg official Sharp) Maybe we could narrow it down, to see if it's an OE problem?

thanks,
Victor
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: lardman on April 02, 2005, 04:27:55 am
The turn-off-with-hardware-button-and-can't-turn-back-on, is, I believe, a known issue for the 3.5.2 5500 images. This is supposed to be fixed in 3.5.3 (and presumably any pre images which are produced from now).

You can suspend using the on-screen menu (annoying, but just as a stop-gap measure it's not so bad).

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Also, a request. Can OZ use the network app from Cacko? That was one of the features I really appreciated from Cacko. The fact that I could have multiple configurations and click an icon in the appbar then enable a specific config for the wireless card. If you can do this with the OZ network tool, I haven't figured it out.

Are there any screenshots anywhere (I don't want to flash Cacko just to look at this). Is the source available? I'm sure that if there's a decent feature in there that you want, you could either submit some patches to the opie-network application, or sumbit a request for added functionality.

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I also noticed that usb networking with my Debian laptop doesn't seem to work under OZ. I get usb 2-2: device descriptor read/64. error -71 when attaching the cradle + Zaurus. In Cacko, it works.

The fact that cacko works and OZ doesn't is possibly due to the fact that they are identified as different USB devices (iirc) - you probably had to alter the modules which were to be loaded for the Z's VID:PID when you started using Cacko - you need to do the same for the OZ VID:PID (which are the same as the older 2.xx ROM ones).


Si
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: Storm on April 02, 2005, 11:55:29 pm
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The turn-off-with-hardware-button-and-can't-turn-back-on, is, I believe, a known issue for the 3.5.2 5500 images. This is supposed to be fixed in 3.5.3 (and presumably any pre images which are produced from now).

I'm using the pre image at the moment, and still encountering the problem.

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You can suspend using the on-screen menu (annoying, but just as a stop-gap measure it's not so bad).

Guess I need to get into the habit...  

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Are there any screenshots anywhere (I don't want to flash Cacko just to look at this). Is the source available? I'm sure that if there's a decent feature in there that you want, you could either submit some patches to the opie-network application, or sumbit a request for added functionality.

I'll see what I can scare up. I am told by a friend with a Collie that the networking app is the same one from the Sharp 3.10 ROM.  The app allows you to have multiple profiles. (Which works for me since I have wireless for home and work.) When the wireless card is in the CF slot, there is a network icon in the taskbar. Clicking on it allows you to select a profile, and start or stop the wifi subsystem.

Another thing I noticed with OZ is that it automatically defaults to IPv6 networking. I think this needs to be an option rather than the default, since 99% of existing networks are IPv4, even today. In fact, I am having problems with wireless networking on my home network. I am hesitant to mention this, since I have not had time to troubleshoot the problems. I flashed the unit at work yesterday, resolved the IPv6 issues, and did some downloads (using the old feeds, for the time being). I packed up and went home, and tried to bring up the Zaurus on my home network (which I had successfully done under Cacko by just plugging in the ESSID, WEP key and IP address). Under OZ, the ESSID, although I changed it to HOME, was flashing WORK with a bunch of random characters, and I have been unable to get it going. I hope to look at it more today.  

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I also noticed that usb networking with my Debian laptop doesn't seem to work under OZ. I get usb 2-2: device descriptor read/64. error -71 when attaching the cradle + Zaurus. In Cacko, it works.

The fact that cacko works and OZ doesn't is possibly due to the fact that they are identified as different USB devices (iirc) - you probably had to alter the modules which were to be loaded for the Z's VID:PID when you started using Cacko - you need to do the same for the OZ VID:PID (which are the same as the older 2.xx ROM ones).
Si
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The only modules I altered were in OZ for the IPv6 stuff. The Cacko usb and wireless networking "just worked." Is there a page or reference on setting this up? What I am having to do to get packages onto the Z at the moment is to suspend and pull the SD card, which is a less-than-optimal solution...

Thanks,
--Storm
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: lardman on April 03, 2005, 06:15:38 am
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I'm using the pre image at the moment, and still encountering the problem.

Check the oe mailing list - check to see that the problem was actually fixed (I only read it in passing), look at the date that the patch was sumbitted and check that your image was built after this date (with up to date packages info of course).

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Another thing I noticed with OZ is that it automatically defaults to IPv6 networking. I think this needs to be an option rather than the default, since 99% of existing networks are IPv4, even today.

Well, we do need to move over eventually ;-)

Seriously, I've seen no mention of (or problems with) IPv6 - I connected by Z to my computer and gave it an IPv4 address and it they were both quite happy.

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In fact, I am having problems with wireless networking on my home network.

I've not had time to look at wireless yet, perhaps this week. If you can track down the errors then this is what the thread's for. Keep up the good work.

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The only modules I altered were in OZ for the IPv6 stuff. The Cacko usb and wireless networking "just worked." Is there a page or reference on setting this up? What I am having to do to get packages onto the Z at the moment is to suspend and pull the SD card, which is a less-than-optimal solution...

(The following does still only apply if it's caused because the Z can't be recognised, there are other possibilities for the error I expect. Start a new thread and post the output of dmesg and let's have a look. Also have a look at some of the existing threads on the forum about Linux connectivity.)

I meant on your Linux box - so that it's recognise the Z as a usb device. Perhaps start here: https://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=Linux_Connectivity (https://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=Linux_Connectivity)

Otherwise a quick google for something like "Zaurus connect linux" should turn up some pages. Or look at what people have had to change, then use take a look in dmesg to see what it'd identified as and alter the numbers accordingly).


Si
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: jbruno on April 04, 2005, 10:33:34 am
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Stay tuned for a pre-release of the gpe-image for collie - notable changes since 3.5.2:
- Working resume
- Working shortcut keys
- Updated applications
- Minimo web-browser package
- Fixed theme issues
- Sub-pixel anti-aliasing enabled by default

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Is there a prerelease available for the SL6000?
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: g1gsw on April 04, 2005, 03:51:41 pm
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rm /etc/init.d/checkversion*
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I have just flashed my Z 5500 with the latest version from the links and it still waits at boot with the kernel warnings.  There are no files named /etc/init.d/checkversion*.

Colin
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: g1gsw on April 04, 2005, 03:53:57 pm
I have found another problem as well going ipkg-link mount /mnt/card looks for /mnt/card/usr/lib/ipkg but it is under /mnt/card/packages/usr/lib/ipkg

Colin
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: miskinis on April 04, 2005, 11:36:25 pm
Wow, I tried the 3.5.3 pre-release, and was able to get much
further with it, compared to the .1 and .2 I tried in the past.  I also need to use
a WEP key, but I didn't get that far yet . (will use linksys CF WIFI card)

If the soon-to-be GPE version allows me to use my SL-5500 as an
X server at work, I will be very happy!  I have played with PocketWorkstation
a little, and got that working, but only over USB.

Anyway, great work so far!

John Miskinis
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: HardenCoonor on April 07, 2005, 09:10:22 am
Hello,

Very nice pre-release. I switched from pdaxrom to 3.5.3-pre, the c7x0-image, yesterday, and it looks very good. I have a c860, btw.

No issues yet. Suspend works(via menu). My microdrive wakes up again (it didn't under pdaxrom). No error messages yet, all the apps i have tested worked just fine.

The fonts are quite small on the console, maybe using one with a better readability at that size is something to think about

The connection to my gentoo-box does not work right now. The zaurus is not recognized correctly. No network connection, no ping.

I noticed that the 2.6-kernel used in this release contains all the io-schedulers. Maybe one is enough in the case of a pda, so taking out the as-scheduler is an option.

Unless i am not mistaken, there seems to be missing an updater.sh, i had to work aorund to install the image(used an updater.sh from oz 3.5.2), but for the kernel i had to use an updater.sh from pdaxrom, after starting oz with the pdaxrom kernel(a no go, device management was impossible, no devices, no input).
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: lardman on April 07, 2005, 09:34:56 am
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The fonts are quite small on the console, maybe using one with a better readability at that size is something to think about

The default is small - you can change this by editing the profile and changing the font size.

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Unless i am not mistaken, there seems to be missing an updater.sh, i had to work aorund to install the image(used an updater.sh from oz 3.5.2), but for the kernel i had to use an updater.sh from pdaxrom, after starting oz with the pdaxrom kernel(a no go, device management was impossible, no devices, no input).

Really? What was wrong with the OZ updater.sh? Perhaps you misnamed your kernel (I installed both the kernel and image using the updater.sh from OZ 3.5.2).

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The connection to my gentoo-box does not work right now. The zaurus is not recognized correctly. No network connection, no ping.

Thje PID:VID of the usb device have changed with the 2.6 kernel, therefore you'll need to make the same alterations as you made before, but changing the numbers (actually, I'm suprised it doesn't work 'out of the box', I'll do some testing.


Si
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: HardenCoonor on April 08, 2005, 08:45:47 am
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The default is small - you can change this by editing the profile and changing the font size.

Yes, found that out the normal way, looking at the session profiles.

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Really? What was wrong with the OZ updater.sh? Perhaps you misnamed your kernel (I installed both the kernel and image using the updater.sh from OZ 3.5.2).

I did not check it several times, i just tried it one time. The name was right probably.
If no one else reports this, i guess it was my fault then, the name was wrong.

Maybe it has something to do with the partitioning of the NAND, i customized it when installing pdaxrom.

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hje PID:VID of the usb device have changed with the 2.6 kernel, therefore you'll need to make the same alterations as you made before, but changing the numbers (actually, I'm suprised it doesn't work 'out of the box', I'll do some testing.

I only compiled usbnet with support for stock Zaurus ROMS, i will test some other support settings.

I may report back on that Monday. Before that i will get me some docs, and study them.
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: altais on April 08, 2005, 04:31:33 pm
Quote from: HardenCoonor,Apr 8 2005, 04:45 AM



Maybe it has something to do with the partitioning of the NAND, i customized it when installing pdaxrom.

This may not be the right area but if you just tell me where to start looking I would appreciate it. My issue is before I knew better I installed the pdaxrom and did something I believe with the NAND on my c750 then I discovered OZ which I  plan on always using the team behind OZ are awesome and the distro is current and great for what I use it for (mostly security tools). So what is the best way to use the NAND for OZ and how do I do it. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: Pramod on April 09, 2005, 05:21:36 pm
Hey CoreDump this pre-release is awesome it fixed the mp3 playback problem I was having with opie-player2. A couple of small issues to report. I am using an SL-5000 the original developer ones..

1. The url http://oz.hentges.net/snapshots/ (http://oz.hentges.net/snapshots/) is no longer working, http://www.oz.hentges.net/snapshots/ (http://www.oz.hentges.net/snapshots/) is working instead. The feed url had to be changed accordingly in ipkg.conf

2. Package Manager crashed with a SIGSEGV when trying to install a package, the one I tried was opie-mediaplayer2-skin-default. Command line ipkg install worked.

3. Installing opie-mediaplayer2 via ipkg, the media player launcher didnt appear immediately, had to launch it via terminal. The launcher appeared later automagically.

Thanks.
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: ironstorm on April 09, 2005, 11:56:41 pm
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3. Installing opie-mediaplayer2 via ipkg, the media player launcher didnt appear immediately, had to launch it via terminal. The launcher appeared later automagically.

This is common with any package _not_ installed from the opie package manager...

Opie must be restarted after a package is installed (and ipkg-link'ed in the case it is not installed to root) before the launcher icons show up.
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: CoreDump on April 10, 2005, 11:42:58 am
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Hey CoreDump this pre-release is awesome it fixed the mp3 playback problem I was having with opie-player2. A couple of small issues to report. I am using an SL-5000 the original developer ones..

1. The url http://oz.hentges.net/snapshots/ (http://oz.hentges.net/snapshots/) is no longer working, http://www.oz.hentges.net/snapshots/ (http://www.oz.hentges.net/snapshots/) is working instead. The feed url had to be changed accordingly in ipkg.conf
The URL works fine here. Is anyone else seeing this problem?
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2. Package Manager crashed with a SIGSEGV when trying to install a package, the one I tried was opie-mediaplayer2-skin-default. Command line ipkg install worked.

Some last-minute changes went into opie-pm. They may have fixed the crash-bug.

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3. Installing opie-mediaplayer2 via ipkg, the media player launcher didnt appear immediately, had to launch it via terminal. The launcher appeared later automagically.

opie-mp2 had some recent fixes as well.
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: lardman on April 10, 2005, 04:39:27 pm
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My issue is before I knew better I installed the pdaxrom and did something I believe with the NAND on my c750 then I discovered OZ which I plan on always using the team behind OZ are awesome and the distro is current and great for what I use it for (mostly security tools). So what is the best way to use the NAND for OZ and how do I do it. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

You can use the pdaXrom updater.sh and tools.tar.gz (is that the right name?) tools to change the partition sizes back to somethiing which works.

I've tried out pdaXrom and messed about with the partition sizes in my travels.

I don't think it matters what size the root partition is, so long as the initrd.bin image will fit on it.

I'm running with:

/dev/mtdblock2 25600 * 1k blocks (root)
/dev/mtdblock3 32768 * 1k blocks (/home)

according to 'df'. I'm not sure that adds up to 64Mb. Hmm.

Anyway, it might help you.


Si
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: altais on April 11, 2005, 10:06:43 pm
That leads to another question what would be the right partion sizes for an OZ install on a C-750? what size for /home and /root ? Thank you for your time and help.
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: HardenCoonor on April 12, 2005, 05:30:19 am
The connection via usb cable works now. I had to compile CDC-Ethernet support in, under USB-Network Multi-purpose (Sorry, I don't have my box here, so i have to use the information from my memory). I was able to ping and to ssh into my Zaurus.

Then i tried to use MidnightCommander on my box to make a shell link, in order to copy stuff onto my CF-card. It started fine, but i wasn't able to finish, the connection was lost. Most probably this is a problem with my Zaurus, on the hardware side, or the cable.

BTW, is there an option (and where is it) to use the Zaurus as a cardreader, i mean, to expose the CF-Card as a share vie the USB-Cable (like in pdaxrom)?
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: lardman on April 12, 2005, 05:39:23 am
@altais: See my post above your one. I'd just split the available space in half and be done with it.

@HardenCoonor: Yes, it is possible, however I've not got round to writing a GUI for it yet, so you have to use my start_net.sh and start_storage.sh scripts to run it. Search the forum, you'll find the scripts, if you need the storage_fd.o module drop me a line and I'll send it to you.


Si
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3 Pre-release
Post by: conn-fused on May 22, 2005, 10:48:30 am
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It would be nice if 3.5.3-final could be the first 3.5.x release to include working timezones...   (i.e. New York and LA should be 3 hours apart and they should be 5 and 8 hours behind London respectively)

This snapshot also fails in that respect.
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Also on the subject of the missing timezones:
You can install the timezone packages to root with:
   ipkg install timezones-africa_1.2.0-r1_arm.ipk (etc.)
Even so, at least one city (Toronto, Canada) doesn't have proper data. To fix problems like this you can:
   cd /usr/share/zoneinfo/America
   ln -s Montreal Toronto
However, since existing cities in the same timezone may have different filesizes, I don't know how good a solution this is.