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Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: Cwiiis on April 05, 2005, 10:15:15 pm
OZ 3.5.3 release has happened, please skip to the bottom of this post (note: post, not thread) to see updates and information related to the official GPE image.

As I only have a collie, I can't say how the gpe-image will be on other PDAs, but the issues I was concerned with for OZ/GPE 3.5.3 have mostly been resolved now, so I have provided a preview image, along with Minimo, <link removed due to release>. Note that although I have provided a few kernel memory configurations, I have only tested with 64-0. Minimo requires a fair amount of memory, and may not perform well with other configurations - If you have success, or indeed failure, please report here!

Slightly updated software may be included in the final release image, but on the whole, this is how it will be. If you notice any show-stopping bugs, please say, and I'll try to fix them ASAP. As the release is planned for tomorrow, likelihood is this image represents the final image almost exactly, so I hope you like it!

I may add to the software located at the link above if the release doesn't happen on time. Packages from the 3.5.2 and 3.5.1 feeds should work ok with this image, but I can't guarantee that.

Known bugs:
- Key shortcuts can't be configured
- Auto-sleep doesn't work
- Alarms don't work during suspend
- 'Control Panel' shortcut doesn't work
- Light control in the 'Screen Setup' application is very erratic
- Enabling visual effects will cause input to stop working - Things will be fine once X has been killed/restarted remotely, or the PDA is restarted
- The MBOpus theme doesn't contain all necessary theme elements to handle docked apps
- Hold for right-click seems not to work over some elements anymore
- GPE's package manager is still mostly unusable for collie (it lacks the ability to install to a non-root location)

Notable fixes/changes since 3.5.1/3.5.2:
- ipkg-link now reads /etc/ipkg.conf
- Resuming from suspend works
- Updated software (Minimo!)
- Changed package destinations (/mnt/cf -> /media/cf/packages, etc.)

Please use this topic for any conversation on problems and solutions related to GPE - I'll do my best to help out.

Updates - 12th April '05

New applications/upgrades in my ipk directory:
-gpe-filemanager (along with gnome-vfs plugins)
-enhanced gxine (along with all necessary libxine plugins, and extra oss audio output plugin)
-updated matchbox (small fixes over the subversion snapshot featured in this image)
-updated gtk (fixes odd behaviour of GtkTreeView widgets)

NB: OZ release happening very soon now (perhaps tomorrow?), so most of this will be included with the OZ release. In the case it gets delayed however, here it is for early-adopters

Updates - 13th April '05

-OZ 3.5.3 released, pre-release removed
-gxine, updated matchbox and necessary dependencies upload to official upgrades feed

Note! If you want to play oggs with gxine, you will have to force the downgrade of libvorbisidec to the version contained in the upgrades feed. Hopefully this will be fixed in the future, and will certainly be fixed in future releases.
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: CoreDump on April 10, 2005, 12:01:25 pm
GPE has come a long way since the 3.5.1 days. It looks damn nice.
Thanks Cwiiis  
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: jfv on April 10, 2005, 07:20:14 pm
Hi,
I tried this on a 5000D. You didn't provide a kernel so I used one (24-8) that I had previously downloaded. It gave some warning during boot but booted fine. Some things have improved. Most importantly for me, Tcl/Tk now works fine. Sokoban is cool  . Some things I had the same problems as I reported on my experiments with 3.5.1 and 3.5.2. Does Rosetta work for anybody? It segfaults from the command line.

Felipe
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: miskinis on April 10, 2005, 11:44:32 pm
Hi,

I've only had a couple hours on it so far, but it is much better
than any previous GPE version I have tried.  I've noticed an
issue, where the calender app is launched when using the
control key on the popop-keyboard.

I will be trying more on it during the week, and look foward to
figuring out how to invoke and try minimo.

I also was able to create an X Window from my main linux box
to the Z (SL-5500) , over a WEP-enabled wireless connection,
so I'm really interested in this relase now

Great work so far,

John
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: woloi on April 11, 2005, 04:01:05 pm
WEP ENCRYPTED WIRELESS WORKS!

Sorry, I've been extremely pissed off that it wasn't working for the past few releases, and I haven't had anytime to try and do anything about it, but right now, my Sl-5500 is finally connected to my college WLAN.

Now to just figure out how to use GPE, because I've usually used OPIE before... :-p

One thing I've noticed, the LAN app needs horizontal sliders, it only has vertical ones, makes it hard to read the entire screen.
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: jfv on April 11, 2005, 07:22:35 pm
How did you guys get wireless working? I went to network setup, checked wifi, configured it with my wep key and tried both "open" and "restricted" (I actually would like to know what these mean, in all other ROMs and computers it's either WEP or no WEP.) anyway, it desn't work for me. My card is a D-Link 650 W and works fine with other ROMs. I looked under PC/CF cards and it had ZCOMAX Airrunner/XI-300,  no driver loaded on socket 0 and nothing on socket 1. Does it mean that this ROM doesn't have a driver for this card? Ha, found a list of drivers. Now which one is the right one? If somebody can answer, it will save me a lot of trial and error.

[Edit] The driver is orinoco (?). Anyhow, then the card shows as eth0 and I had to go back to network setup, enter the wep key and choose open (?), then I prayed to the voodoo gods of GPE (most important part) and I was online! [/Edit]

On an unrelated note, does rosetta work for anybody? I've asked many times but never got an answer.

Thanks

Felipe
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: Cwiiis on April 11, 2005, 08:05:17 pm
jfv - Glad to hear of your success with your wifi card, perhaps you could file a bug about it, along with your solution?

As for rosetta, it works perfectly for me.

I've updated the ipk directory on my web-space with some new software - OZ release should happen tomorrow, but I may offer a slightly more up-to-date image, as some software updates didn't quite make release time (this software will however be in the upgrades feed)

Anyway, check first post for details!

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Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: miskinis on April 11, 2005, 08:17:15 pm
Hi,

I used a Socket wifi card with my SL-5000 when I got the WEP connection
working.  Today, at work, I briefly used my Linksys wifi card to get a
connection (WEP not in use there).  I was actually surprised to see a connection
was established, as I did not change any info in any of the setup tabs, and
it was still set to use WEP, and with my key from home.

I do not remember the details of what I did to setup the eth0 device in
"network setup", but as I remember, I did nothing special, just filled out
the "dialogs", provided my WEP key, etc.

If I remember correctly I saw "managed" today, in the wifi popup, if that
helps.  I can look in detail later, to see what I have specified in all of the
tabs, if you are stuck.  I get the impression you are experiencing issues
due to the wifi card you are using...

John
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: jfv on April 11, 2005, 09:08:13 pm
Thanks for the replies. The wifi issue is not really a bug, just lack of documentation. The card is not automatically recognized so I had to select a driver. How to do those things is not immediately clear but I figured them out with some poking around.

Rosetta worked once I added some swap. I guess it's not compiled to run in the constrained environment of a 5000D. Now the trainer hung when I tried to save the new stroke database. Actually, every time I restart, I get some error message about an inaccessible database.

Felipe
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: miskinis on April 12, 2005, 12:18:12 pm
I've installed minimo, and it shows up in "ipkg list".

How do I invoke it?  (I can't find it ! )

Many thanks,

John
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: Cwiiis on April 12, 2005, 12:48:24 pm
Make sure you've linked it to root (ipkg-link mount /media/sd/packages, for example), then log out and log in and the shortcut should appear in the 'Others' category
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: miskinis on April 12, 2005, 02:56:27 pm
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Make sure you've linked it to root (ipkg-link mount /media/sd/packages, for example), then log out and log in and the shortcut should appear in the 'Others' category
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I need to hunt for, and read up on this "ipkg link" command.  I do not see
it listed in the "help" that is produced by invoking "ipkg" with no arguments.

I'm also new to the 64-0 kernel usage, so in the past I have just installed
packages using "ipkg install foo.ipk".  I guess I will have to wait until I get
out of work today to research this stuff.

I have konqueror displayed remotely on the Z in the meantime

John
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: ironstorm on April 12, 2005, 03:51:16 pm
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I need to hunt for, and read up on this "ipkg link" command. 

ipkg-link is a different command then ipkg - note the dash
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: woloi on April 12, 2005, 07:13:10 pm
I might be stupid, but how do I get a package list on my Zaurus so it knows how to install a program?  Or am I going about that wrong (I haven't used these new builds much, just the old ones from like, a year back).
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: jfv on April 12, 2005, 08:28:05 pm
Well, it was hanging often but it would come back after flipping the battery switch and rebooting, but now when rebooting it goes to the splash screen and then keeps showing an error message: "unable to open database /root/.gpe/categories" and the message keeps flashing on and off on the screen. I guess is back to the Sharp ROM again...

Felipe
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: lardman on April 13, 2005, 05:20:35 am
@jfv: Perhaps your frequent hard resets corrupted the file.

I've no idea what's supposed to be in it - how's about using ssh and touching the file, then see if it gets any further.

@woloi: Connect to the 'net; run ipkg update.

Si
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: vemp on April 13, 2005, 11:32:40 am
I have been testing 3.5.3-gpe on my poodle and it looks great. There are just a couple of problems I have come across so far. First my wifi card (WL-672) was reckognized but not working.  To get it working I took the orinoco_cs.o module from 3.5.2 and copied it to my sd card and loaded it from there.  After I did that and put my wifi card in the net connection came up and a wifi applet in the launcher.  The net works great as long as I dont touch that wifi applet. If I do it freezes the device requiring a hard reset.  Im doing some more testing now so I will post more info later.

-vol
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: victorhooi on April 15, 2005, 06:33:46 am
Hi,

GPE 3.5.3 looks pretty sweet. I for one thought it was worth the wait  Just a few minor niggles.

1. Clicking the Control Panel icon under Settings seems to do absolutely nothing, except flash at you. Is this intentional?

2. For some reason, after an hour of usage, the rotate screen button on the panel no longer works - as in, if you click it absolutely nothing occurs, no feedback or any reaction at all. Also, attempting to change the screen rotation via the Screen Setup capplet under Settings also does absolutely nothing (as in, literally absolutely nothing at all occurs). I realise that this isn't a very good description - is there some way of getting debug/verbose output from this, so I can pass it on to you guys to help figure it out?

Also, is anybody else experiencing the same issue?

3. Likewise, for some strange reason, the Rosetta input seems broken now. Before, I got the cool full-screen input, and I had a funny icon next to the input selector and arrow that you click to enable/disable it. Now, that icon is gone (nor is it on the Add to applet menu), and when I click the Input selector, the old-style handwriting panel pops up (Lowercase, Uppercase, Symbol), and I can't seem to find a way to re-enable full-screen input. What's up with that? Once again, any way to get debug output for this?

4. The networking setup is also kinda weird. I'm trying to follow the instructions here (http://www.openzaurus.org/web/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=29&Itemid=44), and here (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=11785), but once again, absolutely nothing happens (the God of Nothing must have a thing today...lol). As in, no log messages are printed, no modules are loaded.

The Network Setup capplet also seeks rather screwed....

How exactly are you meant to configure the usbd0 interface? It's wasn't listed at the top, so I thought, that's fine, I'll make a new one. But when you attempt to create a new interface called "usbd0", it complains about "This interface definition already exists!". But since there doesn't appear to be any way to access this supposedly already created definition, how are you meant to customize it?

Thanks,
Victor
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: ronbus on April 15, 2005, 09:31:02 am
1)  I also get nothing when "clicking" the control panel icon.

2)  I had the opposite issue with the rotate screen button, it didn't work at first but then started working.  I didn't use it that much--I need the PIM from OPIE and haven't figured out how to move my PIM data to GPE yet--so I don't know if it would stop working after a longer time.

3)  I didn't have any problem with Rosetta, I really like it.  It was on by default.

-Ron
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: adf on April 15, 2005, 11:45:30 am
this'll end up in the 6k 353 thread too, I think.

On my 6k gpe is very much better than it had been in 3.5.2. Suspend works, gxine is (though i haven't tested it much) exactly the thing needed for its purpose, etc....

But, I guess I should mention issues I've noticed:

on the 6k , at least, flashing from a factory-fresh state makes a big difference. flashing to oz gpe from previuos custom setups can cause problems.

Minimo, one of my favorite opensource projects, seems crippled this time around. I cannot get it to do stuff like enter passwords on sites.  for example when I try to log on to zug I give my username - adf  and my password--xxxxxx  and get back a messagwe to the effect that i can't be logged in because I haven't entered a user name.  This is frustrating.  I realize minimo is a big project and maybe mentioning it on the gpe thread doesn't do much good, but if I am to use gpe, then I need a web browser. I would very much prefer that it be minimo.  Is this a known problem with this release of minimo?  is there a fix, workaround or planned upgrade?  would anyone mind postiing dillo in the feeds again if this can't be fixed (patched to handle ssl)? or firefox?  I will "reactiviate" my toolch\ain this afternoon, and give a shot a compiling a new minimo , and firefox and dillo.  

Ideas comments ponters?  Links to a fully funcional minimo?  ?

Also, office apps?  I realize the Z is not the best platform for running an office, but a good word processor and spreadsheet are nice to have on the Z for occasional use, and opening (stupid) email attachments. abiword and gnumeric used to be in oz/gpe......

Still, despite the minimoo/office thing (both of which are definitely solvable) gpe is starting to look really good.  I'll stick with it for a while this time, I think---and i'm really looking forward to the 2.6 thing getting sorted out, and the gui settings stuff being finished (like the wireles app?)
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: lardman on April 15, 2005, 12:09:55 pm
minimo does passwords for me - have you had the site you're refering to working with minimo before?

Control panel icon also works for me.

What doesn't work is a capital Y.

Abiword is around - try here for example: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/sfeed/ (http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/sfeed/)

It should be added to the Upgrades feed though.


Si
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: vlad on April 15, 2005, 01:12:12 pm
Quote
OZ 3.5.3 release has happened, please skip to the bottom of this post (note: post, not thread) to see updates and information related to the official GPE image.

As I only have a collie, I can't say how the gpe-image will be on other PDAs, but the issues I was concerned with for OZ/GPE 3.5.3 have mostly been resolved now, so I have provided a preview image, along with Minimo, <link removed due to release>. Note that although I have provided a few kernel memory configurations, I have only tested with 64-0. Minimo requires a fair amount of memory, and may not perform well with other configurations - If you have success, or indeed failure, please report here!

Slightly updated software may be included in the final release image, but on the whole, this is how it will be. If you notice any show-stopping bugs, please say, and I'll try to fix them ASAP. As the release is planned for tomorrow, likelihood is this image represents the final image almost exactly, so I hope you like it!

I may add to the software located at the link above if the release doesn't happen on time. Packages from the 3.5.2 and 3.5.1 feeds should work ok with this image, but I can't guarantee that.

Known bugs:
- Key shortcuts can't be configured
- Auto-sleep doesn't work
- Alarms don't work during suspend
- 'Control Panel' shortcut doesn't work
- Light control in the 'Screen Setup' application is very erratic
- Enabling visual effects will cause input to stop working - Things will be fine once X has been killed/restarted remotely, or the PDA is restarted
- The MBOpus theme doesn't contain all necessary theme elements to handle docked apps
- Hold for right-click seems not to work over some elements anymore
- GPE's package manager is still mostly unusable for collie (it lacks the ability to install to a non-root location)

Notable fixes/changes since 3.5.1/3.5.2:
- ipkg-link now reads /etc/ipkg.conf
- Resuming from suspend works
- Updated software (Minimo!)
- Changed package destinations (/mnt/cf -> /media/cf/packages, etc.)

Please use this topic for any conversation on problems and solutions related to GPE - I'll do my best to help out.

Updates - 12th April '05

New applications/upgrades in my ipk directory:
-gpe-filemanager (along with gnome-vfs plugins)
-enhanced gxine (along with all necessary libxine plugins, and extra oss audio output plugin)
-updated matchbox (small fixes over the subversion snapshot featured in this image)
-updated gtk (fixes odd behaviour of GtkTreeView widgets)

NB: OZ release happening very soon now (perhaps tomorrow?), so most of this will be included with the OZ release. In the case it gets delayed however, here it is for early-adopters

Updates - 13th April '05

-OZ 3.5.3 released, pre-release removed
-gxine, updated matchbox and necessary dependencies upload to official upgrades feed

Note! If you want to play oggs with gxine, you will have to force the downgrade of libvorbisidec to the version contained in the upgrades feed. Hopefully this will be fixed in the future, and will certainly be fixed in future releases.
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BTW guys, why it's soooooo slow in my 5500?
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: adf on April 15, 2005, 02:16:54 pm
that is the weird thing about the minomo issue.  I HAve had it work on sites that it isn't working on now.  It currently doesn't send a password to ANY site under any method i can come up with.
it is really, really strange.  On the other handf it renders better now than i remember it rendering. (or is that just me?))
i am also having issues doing remote x. I keep getting  a "no authentication method" error xauth is installed by default. is this a dropbear thing? ought I to pull dropbear and install openssh? I'll do that just in case.
any ideas?
edit: dropbear isn't installed, dillo2 IS in the feed. ooops.
still having that auth method problem

fixed the ssh auth issue.... I had not linked openssh after installing. oops
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: vemp on April 16, 2005, 04:25:09 pm
Anyone using gpe on a 5600?  I think it works better on the 5500 because there is more ram on those machines.  With a clean install and a reboot ram usage is at atleast 95%.  This is pretty much the only thing holding gpe back from working great on poodle.

I removed all the applets and stopped a lot of programs and i still cant free up more than a total of 3 or 4 mb of ram. Any ideas?
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: Cwiiis on April 16, 2005, 08:42:49 pm
The RAM usage in the systems information settings is a little misleading, you may have more free than is reported (it is always like that on my collie too, yet it seems to find enough memory to run minimo, prismstumbler, gpe-edit and rxvt, simultaneously, ok )
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: trichmon on April 16, 2005, 10:53:48 pm
Has anyone been able to get alarms to work while suspeneded on any of the non clamshells (5500,5600,6000l).  I saw the notes about it not working with collie but I cant seem to get it to work with either my 5600 or 6000l.  No errors, nothing in the logs I can find.  Just dosent happen.  But I get all backed up alarms when the system is turned back on.

edit- sorry i see that its listed here as not working for any model.  nevermind
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: lardman on April 17, 2005, 06:29:39 am
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With a clean install and a reboot ram usage is at atleast 95%

As ever, make sure you've not inlculded chached memory in you total of used, as it's not 'used' in the sense that nothing else can touch it, just doing something useful until another program needs it (when it will be freed and allocated to the prog which requires it).


Si
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: miskinis on April 17, 2005, 02:09:31 pm
Hi,

I'm still toying with this release, but not sure how wireless networking
control is supposed to function.  I can create a connection over WEP
and use the Z as an X server OK.

But, I'm confused as to why the network seems to not come up on a
boot with a CF Wifi card in.  If I pull it, and re-insert it, the network
will come up.

I"m also wondering why "cardctl status" does not show any information
for socket 1, when I have an SD card in.

Anyway, this release seems very cool, and I look forward to playing with
it over the weekend, and figuring out how to install and manage packages
on SD.   Then it's on to getting JAVA working.

John
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: Lexx on April 17, 2005, 02:20:58 pm
Here's my feedback. Some of it may have already been posted, but I can't see it hurting if it shows up more than once.

~About 2 pixle lines at the bottom of the display is corrupt durring boot. All clean after GPE is up.
~Detects Ambicom WiFi card as ZCOMAX AirRunner/XI-300
~Screen blanked as I was typing into the GPE text editor. Pressing a few keys restored it.
~Panel clock is pretty much unusable when the screen is rotated. May we have an option to have the bar either on the bottom or on the side? I can how having it on the side would be very handy, but an option would be great.
~Audio Mixer - How do you close it? Takes up almost 1/2 the screen. Had to logout/in to get rid of it.
~Logging out (To kill the Audio Mixer) brought me to the timezone adjustment.
~Autologin logs in as root. Can we select which user gets auto logged in?
~Closing a root shell opend from a standard user resulted in the following error: urxvt: can't get colour '#969696' continue without. Selecting OK prompts for the root password.
~Screen Setup - The default brightness level of 10 does not accurately reflect the true bright ness. Adjusting the brightness and then setting it back to 10 does not yeild the same level of brighness as before the change.
That said, the brighness does not stay at the requested value. It snaps back almost immediately back to 10 which is now kind of dark. The brighness applet does allow the setting to be changed.
~Sokoban - Looks good, but the control pad does not follow the screen rotated state.
~Feeds - None of them were listed in the package manager.
~SSh - Worked perfectly once I setup the USB0 interface on the Z. X forwarding worked well in most cases also.

I'm getting ready to (a) try and perform an upgrade from the upgrade feed which should prove if the nework setup is correct, if that failes then ( figure out why (A) didn't work and maybe mirror the upgrade feed to my SD card and upgrade that way.

I'll post a followup once I retest everything should the upgrade go well.
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: Cwiiis on April 17, 2005, 07:47:27 pm
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~Screen blanked as I was typing into the GPE text editor. Pressing a few keys restored it.
It's a known bug that if you hold down the right arrow key on collie it suspends - did you do this by any chance?

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~Panel clock is pretty much unusable when the screen is rotated. May we have an option to have the bar either on the bottom or on the side? I can how having it on the side would be very handy, but an option would be great.
Have a look at the matchbox documentation at http://projects.o-hand.com/matchbox (http://projects.o-hand.com/matchbox) - Any contributions of patches or applications are welcome

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~Audio Mixer - How do you close it? Takes up almost 1/2 the screen. Had to logout/in to get rid of it.
Don't use the MBOpus theme

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~Autologin logs in as root. Can we select which user gets auto logged in?
Known bug - Will probably be fixed in the next release, possibly in the upgrades feed in the future

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~Closing a root shell opend from a standard user resulted in the following error: urxvt: can't get colour '#969696' continue without. Selecting OK prompts for the root password.
I may fix this at some point, easy to fix bug

Quote
~Screen Setup - The default brightness level of 10 does not accurately reflect the true bright ness. Adjusting the brightness and then setting it back to 10 does not yeild the same level of brighness as before the change.
That said, the brighness does not stay at the requested value. It snaps back almost immediately back to 10 which is now kind of dark. The brighness applet does allow the setting to be changed.
Due to unreadable brightness status on collie - Needs to be fixed at kernel level

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~Sokoban - Looks good, but the control pad does not follow the screen rotated state.
Missing keymaps, as said before - contributions welcome

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~Feeds - None of them were listed in the package manager.
As said in the release notes, gpe-packagemanager is mostly unusable for collie and still in a very early state.

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~SSh - Worked perfectly once I setup the USB0 interface on the Z. X forwarding worked well in most cases also.
Maybe you could post how you did this in the making connections/synchronisation threads?

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I'll post a followup once I retest everything should the upgrade go well.

Good luck, and thanks for the feedback
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: kmeaw on April 17, 2005, 10:23:25 pm
Everything is fine, but I have two bugs:
- X server some times just crashes (and restarts); It happends when I don't to anything special: 2 times in gaim, 4 times in rxvt
- Buggy lines on 6000 -- as in 3.5.2, OZ has buggy yellow and blue lines that follow mouse cursor and usually stay near by text fields
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: kmeaw on April 17, 2005, 10:43:15 pm
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- Buggy lines on 6000 -- as in 3.5.2, OZ has buggy yellow and blue lines that follow mouse cursor and usually stay near by text fields
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Fixed - download [a href=\"http://kmeaw.com/tmp/Xfbdev.bz2]http://kmeaw.com/tmp/Xfbdev.bz2[/url] and unbzip2 in to your /usr/bin. Side effects: key repeat does not work
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: Gondola on April 17, 2005, 10:54:29 pm
Excellent! I don't use the keyboard enough to care about key repeat.


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- Buggy lines on 6000 -- as in 3.5.2, OZ has buggy yellow and blue lines that follow mouse cursor and usually stay near by text fields
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Fixed - download [a href=\"http://kmeaw.com/tmp/Xfbdev.bz2]http://kmeaw.com/tmp/Xfbdev.bz2[/url] and unbzip2 in to your /usr/bin. Side effects: key repeat does not work
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Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: Gondola on April 17, 2005, 11:02:12 pm
Still buggy.  Using sketchbook with the new file now is very bad.  When attempting to use a large circular cursor to draw, it becomes very apparent.  Lines at least 5-10 pixels wide get added on to the sides of the cursor.



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Excellent! I don't use the keyboard enough to care about key repeat.


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- Buggy lines on 6000 -- as in 3.5.2, OZ has buggy yellow and blue lines that follow mouse cursor and usually stay near by text fields
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Fixed - download [a href=\"http://kmeaw.com/tmp/Xfbdev.bz2]http://kmeaw.com/tmp/Xfbdev.bz2[/url] and unbzip2 in to your /usr/bin. Side effects: key repeat does not work
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Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: kmeaw on April 17, 2005, 11:55:45 pm
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Still buggy.  Using sketchbook with the new file now is very bad.  When attempting to use a large circular cursor to draw, it becomes very apparent.  Lines at least 5-10 pixels wide get added on to the sides of the cursor.
Yes  
However, I do not see any other "bugs" on my screen...

If anyone has other versions of Xfbdev, please try them out.

Added: Checking, is it an Xlib-mismatch bug?
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: Lexx on April 18, 2005, 10:32:58 pm
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~Screen blanked as I was typing into the GPE text editor. Pressing a few keys restored it.
It's a known bug that if you hold down the right arrow key on collie it suspends - did you do this by any chance?
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It's possible as I was outdoor watching the kids as I typed.  I have apoodle though, think it's affected also?

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~Panel clock is pretty much unusable when the screen is rotated. May we have an option to have the bar either on the bottom or on the side? I can how having it on the side would be very handy, but an option would be great.
Have a look at the matchbox documentation at http://projects.o-hand.com/matchbox (http://projects.o-hand.com/matchbox) - Any contributions of patches or applications are welcome
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Great! I'll take a read. Trust me, if I could code and contribute I would, but right now I'm limited to VBA (Work) and I am teaching myself Perl/PHP/MySQL.

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~Audio Mixer - How do you close it? Takes up almost 1/2 the screen. Had to logout/in to get rid of it.
Don't use the MBOpus theme
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I'll check, but I don't think I was, found the themes much later.

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~Autologin logs in as root. Can we select which user gets auto logged in?
Known bug - Will probably be fixed in the next release, possibly in the upgrades feed in the future
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Ok. Glad to here.

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~Closing a root shell opend from a standard user resulted in the following error: urxvt: can't get colour '#969696' continue without. Selecting OK prompts for the root password.
I may fix this at some point, easy to fix bug
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Awesome!

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~Screen Setup - The default brightness level of 10 does not accurately reflect the true bright ness. Adjusting the brightness and then setting it back to 10 does not yeild the same level of brighness as before the change.
That said, the brighness does not stay at the requested value. It snaps back almost immediately back to 10 which is now kind of dark. The brighness applet does allow the setting to be changed.
Due to unreadable brightness status on collie - Needs to be fixed at kernel level
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I take it the same holds true for Poodle?

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~Sokoban - Looks good, but the control pad does not follow the screen rotated state.
Missing keymaps, as said before - contributions welcome
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Wish that I had the skill. Best I can do is offer a list of my findings.

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~Feeds - None of them were listed in the package manager.
As said in the release notes, gpe-packagemanager is mostly unusable for collie and still in a very early state.
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My fault, to excited to see the progress and I forgot to read the release notes.


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~SSh - Worked perfectly once I setup the USB0 interface on the Z. X forwarding worked well in most cases also.
Maybe you could post how you did this in the making connections/synchronisation threads?
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I'de be happy to. I'll try and locate it.

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I'll post a followup once I retest everything should the upgrade go well.

Good luck, and thanks for the feedback
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I just I'm providing useful feedback.  

Sorry for the very bad quoting, but the cascaded quoting didn't seem to work for me.
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: phar on April 19, 2005, 01:20:17 pm
hi, just want to say im a relitively new oz user, but have had some time to use 3.5.2, and upgraded to 3.5.3 aparently days before the official release, so i thought id mention some issues that i have found...

im using 3.5.3 on a sl-5500

first: a flat out bug..

1: press and hold the "home" button on your zaurus..
2: press and hold the "space" button (inset button in the joystick like controller thingie..),

tada, the system crashes. or at the very least seems to, restarting requires flipping the battery switch and rebooting the device..

now this style of crash is important to note, since its been happing a lot in other places, scrolling through the text editor with a large text file, or even scrolling around in the k-browser..


another issue i noticed is sending a jpeg file from a cell phone over infared to the zaurus, the zaurus tries to display a thumbnail of the image, it fails miserably only displaying a grey box..


time, setting the time throught the launchers "get toime from network" feature, only seems to set the time for about a minute, then the clock updates to the previous incorrect time + 1 minute..


the usual package manager stuff, but you seem to know the issues with that already..

sorry for the extensive rant, and dont take it as an indictment in any way, ive tried the most recent zaurus rom, and while more stable.. its really not what i wanted, oz really is, or rather will be once i can rely on it.
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: lardman on April 19, 2005, 05:29:51 pm
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and upgraded to 3.5.3 aparently days before the official release

I'd flash the official version as these issues may have been patched for the final release (esp. the suspending thing - the others are probably still there - but you should add them to the appropriate bug tracker).

If they are still issues, please let us know.


Si
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: Cwiiis on April 19, 2005, 07:49:46 pm
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hi, just want to say im a relitively new oz user, but have had some time to use 3.5.2, and upgraded to 3.5.3 aparently days before the official release, so i thought id mention some issues that i have found...

im using 3.5.3 on a sl-5500

first: a flat out bug..

1: press and hold the "home" button on your zaurus..
2: press and hold the "space" button (inset button in the joystick like controller thingie..),

tada, the system crashes. or at the very least seems to, restarting requires flipping the battery switch and rebooting the device..

now this style of crash is important to note, since its been happing a lot in other places, scrolling through the text editor with a large text file, or even scrolling around in the k-browser..


another issue i noticed is sending a jpeg file from a cell phone over infared to the zaurus, the zaurus tries to display a thumbnail of the image, it fails miserably only displaying a grey box..


time, setting the time throught the launchers "get toime from network" feature, only seems to set the time for about a minute, then the clock updates to the previous incorrect time + 1 minute..


the usual package manager stuff, but you seem to know the issues with that already..

sorry for the extensive rant, and dont take it as an indictment in any way, ive tried the most recent zaurus rom, and while more stable.. its really not what i wanted, oz really is, or rather will be once i can rely on it.
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These don't sound like problems with GPE to me.
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: kmeaw on April 24, 2005, 08:26:16 am
http://kmeaw.com/tmp/X-nolines.patch.gz (http://kmeaw.com/tmp/X-nolines.patch.gz) seems a way to fix lines on the screen...
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: Greg2 on May 02, 2005, 04:40:16 pm
I decided to try GPE on my poodle, but I've got a small problem... in what package is 'mkswap'?

Greg
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: Greg2 on May 02, 2005, 07:48:07 pm
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I decided to try GPE on my poodle, but I've got a small problem... in what package is 'mkswap'?
OK... my bad.

/sbin/mkswap
/sbin/swapon

One more question... is there a better (larger size fonts) terminal than rxvt, or can I make the font size in rxvt larger for my old eyes? (if so, how?)

Thanks

Greg
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: lardman on May 03, 2005, 07:23:20 am
I'm not sure where mkswap would be (you could try ipkgfind.handhelds.org to search for the binary and get a name for which package it'd be in, then find that package in the official feeds - if it's not there, ask hrw to add it to upgrades as I assume it must be in OE somewhere).

Font sizes - Look and Feel in Settings.


Si
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: Greg2 on May 03, 2005, 08:48:28 am
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Font sizes - Look and Feel in Settings.
Thanks lardman, I didn't see that 'terminal font' setting before... this is easier on my eyes.

The GPE image includes mkswap, but I'm used to the Opie command:

# mkswap
with GPE it's:
# /sbin/mkswap

I'm starting to adjust to these little changes, and now I can see without eyestrain.

I would like to suggest for a future release that the feeds for GPE be a bit more consolidated... I have to list '9' feeds for all the dependencies.

Thanks

Greg
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: lardman on May 03, 2005, 09:16:54 am
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The GPE image includes mkswap, but I'm used to the Opie command:

# mkswap
with GPE it's:
# /sbin/mkswap

Are you using 'su' to become root? Perhaps use 'su -' (something like that) to also use the root $path settings, then mkswap will work from anywhere.

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I would like to suggest for a future release that the feeds for GPE be a bit more consolidated... I have to list '9' feeds for all the dependencies.

Separation of the feed components is a good thing IMO - you shouldn't need to even know anything about this as the various feeds should have been installed automatically in /etc/ipkg/*.conf

Equally, although Opie uses probably 2 feeds fewer (opie rather than x11, gpe and gnome), it still has a fair few seperate ones (base, console, etc.).


Si
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: Greg2 on May 03, 2005, 10:29:20 am
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Perhaps use 'su -' (something like that) to also use the root $path settings, then mkswap will work from anywhere.
Hehe... that helps with a lot of things! It seems as if everyday I learn ... that there is still so much to learn.
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Separation of the feed components is a good thing IMO - you shouldn't need to even know anything about this as the various feeds should have been installed automatically in /etc/ipkg/*.conf
Because I feared screwing up my internet connection (very long story) on an iPAQ and my collie... I built a feed on my 340 mb microdrive for this GPE/poodle testing.

Thanks again,

Greg
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: L1nuxR0x on May 10, 2005, 04:25:34 pm
I installed OZ 3.5.3 (GPE) a few days ago to test it out using a 32/32 configuration on a SL-5500.  I can confirm the autologin of root issue, as well as the in-ability of users to log in if their config was changed.  I can also confirm the control applet did nothing at all, but the only major problem I found was the inability to sync with the PC.  I was able to ping both ways, but that was it, so this morning I decided to try Opie.  Right away it communicated with Qtopia 1.7, so it already has a leg up in my case.  At this time, I don't remember any other issues that I had with GPE, and the jury is still out on Opie.
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: koen on May 18, 2005, 10:16:42 am
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I installed OZ 3.5.3 (GPE) a few days ago to test it out using a 32/32 configuration on a SL-5500.  I can confirm the autologin of root issue, as well as the in-ability of users to log in if their config was changed.  I can also confirm the control applet did nothing at all, but the only major problem I found was the inability to sync with the PC.  I was able to ping both ways, but that was it, so this morning I decided to try Opie.  Right away it communicated with Qtopia 1.7, so it already has a leg up in my case.  At this time, I don't remember any other issues that I had with GPE, and the jury is still out on Opie.
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GPE is free of Trolltech crap, so qtopia won't work. See [a href=\"http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/GpeSync]http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/GpeSync[/url] on how to get gpe to sync using multisync
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: mmoralls on May 18, 2005, 02:28:18 pm
Hello,

I have a SL-5500 (and am a newbie) and after hassling with Opie and the package manager not working good I'm trying the GPE image. Trying to install abiword but a few dependencies are needed. I found the other files and put them all on cf card and ready to go but understand it's pkg mgr isn't working 100%  .

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GPE's package manager is still mostly unusable for collie (it lacks the ability to install to a non-root location)

If I am just logging in as root how do I select multiple files to install? What are the key(s) to use to do this?

Thanks for the help
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: JohnKiniston on May 20, 2005, 10:38:38 pm
I've run into a problem with the 3.5.3 GPE x-terminal-emulator on my 5500.

When I use the root terminal I dont have the ablility to hit function c to send a ctrl-c.

Also if I pop up the onscreen keyboard and do a ctrl-c I get the calendar app!

Oh, and if I use the onscreen keyboard to send a escape the terminal quits!

Anyone else seeing this?
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: miskinis on May 20, 2005, 10:42:38 pm
Yes, I saw the Calendar app coming up last time I tried the GPE 3.5.3...

I saw other onscreen keyboard issues as well, but can't remember the details.
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: lardman on May 21, 2005, 07:42:11 am
Is this keylaunch intercepting the keypress?

What happens if you kill keylaunch?


Si
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: Teletubbie on May 21, 2005, 08:52:49 am
Hey Guys,
i am testing the image now. It is now much more mature than the last time I tried. I have configured autologin as root, but I am always getting the error:
Code: [Select]
unable to open database: /root/.gpe/categoriesAnyone a hint?
I get this error for example, when I try to start the calendar. Calendar does not start. Just the contacts can be launched, while I get that error there too. I did an ipkg update and ipkg upgrade, which upgraded from the upgrade feed. The upgrade went on smooth.
Cheers,
Sam
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: lardman on May 21, 2005, 09:38:27 am
If the file it's complaining about does exist, delete it and it will be re-generated - I think there was a format change between the upgrades.

Si
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: Teletubbie on May 21, 2005, 10:44:12 am
Hi Lardman,
thanks for the hint. Well there is no file there. But there is also no .gpe directory there too. I created a directory /root/.gpe
The error does not apear anymore. It seems to create the category file now. I can also now launch all the gpe-pim apps  
Cheers,
Sam
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: koen on May 21, 2005, 11:21:07 am
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Hi Lardman,
thanks for the hint. Well there is no file there. But there is also no .gpe directory there too. I created a directory /root/.gpe
The error does not apear anymore. It seems to create the category file now. I can also now launch all the gpe-pim apps   
Cheers,
Sam
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Please don't run GPE as root, it has enough setuid helpers to run as a normal user. Even better, it is designed to run as a normal user.
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: Teletubbie on May 21, 2005, 01:37:51 pm
Is there anyway to setup autologin for normal user? I logged inas normal user and then configured autologin. But now it logs automatically into root account.
Thx,
Sam
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: JohnKiniston on May 21, 2005, 03:24:57 pm
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Is this keylaunch intercepting the keypress?

What happens if you kill keylaunch?


Si
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Killing keylaunch does not seem to make a difference with my shell problem.

Escape still closes the shell and ctrl-c still brings up the Calendar app.
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: koen on May 21, 2005, 04:44:31 pm
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Is there anyway to setup autologin for normal user? I logged inas normal user and then configured autologin. But now it logs automatically into root account.
Thx,
Sam
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This is a known bug, and we're working to fix it
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: guima on May 22, 2005, 01:03:21 am
I have just installed the OZ/GPE rom but I cannot get my socket wireless card to work.
It seems that the spectrum_cs driver is missing from the rom.
Also, I couldn't find it in the feeds.
My zaurus is the c860.

Did anyone else got this to work? Did the driver name change?
I am surprise that no one else wouldn't have noticed since this card is pretty common.

I forgot to mention that the card is working fine.
I just had it working with the 3.5.3 OZ/OPIE without trouble.
But, I wanted to try GPE. It looks pretty nice so far but not being able to get wireless to work is a major problem.

Thanks
Joao
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: koen on May 22, 2005, 04:43:44 am
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I have just installed the OZ/GPE rom but I cannot get my socket wireless card to work.
It seems that the spectrum_cs driver is missing from the rom.
Also, I couldn't find it in the feeds.
My zaurus is the c860.

Did anyone else got this to work? Did the driver name change?
I am surprise that no one else wouldn't have noticed since this card is pretty common.

I forgot to mention that the card is working fine.
I just had it working with the 3.5.3 OZ/OPIE without trouble.
But, I wanted to try GPE. It looks pretty nice so far but not being able to get wireless to work is a major problem.

Thanks
Joao
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is that with kernel 2.4 or kernel 2.6?

As a side note to the people posting in this thread: we have our own forum now
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: lardman on May 22, 2005, 06:24:04 am
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As a side note to the people posting in this thread: we have our own forum now

And the thread's been moved to the new forum now.


Si
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: guima on May 23, 2005, 12:17:22 am
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I have just installed the OZ/GPE rom but I cannot get my socket wireless card to work.
It seems that the spectrum_cs driver is missing from the rom.
Also, I couldn't find it in the feeds.
My zaurus is the c860.

Did anyone else got this to work? Did the driver name change?
I am surprise that no one else wouldn't have noticed since this card is pretty common.

I forgot to mention that the card is working fine.
I just had it working with the 3.5.3 OZ/OPIE without trouble.
But, I wanted to try GPE. It looks pretty nice so far but not being able to get wireless to work is a major problem.

Thanks
Joao
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is that with kernel 2.4 or kernel 2.6?

As a side note to the people posting in this thread: we have our own forum now
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Hi,

I believe it was kernel 2.6. I didn't check and I now installed pdaxrom.
I needed to get it to work asap. The card is working fine with pdaxrom.

 I was using the boxer image from
[a href=\"http://www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/c7x0,c8x0/gpe/]http://www.openzaurus.org/official/unstabl.../c7x0,c8x0/gpe/[/url]

I liked gpe so I will might give it another go once this is fixed. But, pdaxrom is very nice also.
BTW, can OZ/GPE run out of the box, X applications like firefox, gimp, thunderbird, xemacs, etc?
I also really like the kdepim applications and couldn't install that (easily) on GPE.
Will these be "supported" at some point?

Cheers,
Joao
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: guima on May 23, 2005, 12:26:37 am
BTW, sorry for my ignorance but...
where is the new forum?
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: koen on May 23, 2005, 05:33:53 am
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Quote
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I have just installed the OZ/GPE rom but I cannot get my socket wireless card to work.
It seems that the spectrum_cs driver is missing from the rom.
Also, I couldn't find it in the feeds.
My zaurus is the c860.

Did anyone else got this to work? Did the driver name change?
I am surprise that no one else wouldn't have noticed since this card is pretty common.

I forgot to mention that the card is working fine.
I just had it working with the 3.5.3 OZ/OPIE without trouble.
But, I wanted to try GPE. It looks pretty nice so far but not being able to get wireless to work is a major problem.

Thanks
Joao
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is that with kernel 2.4 or kernel 2.6?

As a side note to the people posting in this thread: we have our own forum now
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Hi,

I believe it was kernel 2.6. I didn't check and I now installed pdaxrom.
I needed to get it to work asap. The card is working fine with pdaxrom.

 I was using the boxer image from
[a href=\"http://www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/c7x0,c8x0/gpe/]http://www.openzaurus.org/official/unstabl.../c7x0,c8x0/gpe/[/url]

I liked gpe so I will might give it another go once this is fixed. But, pdaxrom is very nice also.
BTW, can OZ/GPE run out of the box, X applications like firefox, gimp, thunderbird, xemacs, etc?
I also really like the kdepim applications and couldn't install that (easily) on GPE.
Will these be "supported" at some point?
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OZ/GPE can run all those apps out of the box, although I'm still strugglingg with adding the gimp to the buildsystem. I also poked the kde-using people to update the kde apps in OE.
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: koen on May 23, 2005, 05:34:54 am
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BTW, sorry for my ignorance but...
where is the new forum?
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It's at [a href=\"https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showforum=147]https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showforum=147[/url]
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: guima on May 23, 2005, 04:03:24 pm
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BTW, sorry for my ignorance but...
where is the new forum?
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It's at [a href=\"https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showforum=147]https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showforum=147[/url]
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Oh! But that is this forum:
OE Forums > ROMs, Development, and Model Specific Forums > ROMs Support and Discussion > OZ/GPE

I guess the point is that we should start a new thread in the Forum!
I will do that from now on!

Thanks for the answers btw.
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: lardman on May 24, 2005, 05:18:46 am
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Oh! But that is this forum:
OE Forums > ROMs, Development, and Model Specific Forums > ROMs Support and Discussion > OZ/GPE

Yes. the reason for the confusion is that the OZ part of the forum was recently split into 'common', 'opie' and 'gpe' sections. This thread was in 'common' immediately after the split and was then moved here.


Si
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: grog on May 24, 2005, 04:07:02 pm
As I've seen mentioned elsewhere, GPE's /etc/ipkg.conf is missing references to *any* src's. I've also seen posts about adding both the gnome & machine feeds. So what feeds should be included (or another asked another way, what feeds shouldn't be, such as opie (obviously )? thks
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: lardman on May 25, 2005, 05:24:01 am
src's are now generally placed in their own conf file in /etc/ipkg/, you ought to have some in there.


Simon
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: koen on May 25, 2005, 06:10:25 am
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src's are now generally placed in their own conf file in /etc/ipkg/, you ought to have some in there.
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although the opie-image.bb contains some code to merge them into /etc/ipkg.conf to stop aqpkg from breaking. It's one of the unexpected differences between the opie-basesystem and the others.
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: grog on May 25, 2005, 10:43:06 am
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src's are now generally placed in their own conf file in /etc/ipkg/, you ought to have some in there.[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=81390\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

although the opie-image.bb contains some code to merge them into /etc/ipkg.conf to stop aqpkg from breaking. It's one of the unexpected differences between the opie-basesystem and the others.[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=81395\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
ok, now that makes sense. I couldn't figure out why GPE & OPIE would be different at his level. Thanks for clearing that up.

Is any of this documented anywhere? I keep seeing references to the release notes, but there's not much off the gpe.hanhelds.org site.
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: grog on May 25, 2005, 11:02:49 am
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Thanks for the replies. The wifi issue is not really a bug, just lack of documentation. The card is not automatically recognized so I had to select a driver. How to do those things is not immediately clear but I figured them out with some poking around.[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=74684\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
I'm still poking around & haven't been able to get my connection working. Any clues for a SMC2624? Where to get drivers? How to tell what driver I need? And how do I load the driver after I've got it?  thks
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: grog on May 25, 2005, 01:09:18 pm
Has anybody else noticed that their Z is running really HOT running GPE? I never noticed that with OPIE. is there something different with apm for GPE that could be causing it?
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: cstrand1 on May 25, 2005, 02:02:37 pm
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Has anybody else noticed that their Z is running really HOT running GPE? I never noticed that with OPIE. is there something different with apm for GPE that could be causing it?
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Yes, I found the same thing.  I thought maybe it had something to do with the wifi card being in.
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: grog on May 25, 2005, 03:39:04 pm
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Yes, I found the same thing.  I thought maybe it had something to do with the wifi card being in.[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=81479\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
Even with the card in it wasn't like that for me under OPIE, but for the sake of arguement I just popped it out & will leave it on for a while & see what happens.

I'm just worried that this might be damaging my Z. A replacement would be quite some time away of that were to happen.
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: weasel123 on May 25, 2005, 08:42:50 pm
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~Screen Setup - The default brightness level of 10 does not accurately reflect the true bright ness. Adjusting the brightness and then setting it back to 10 does not yeild the same level of brighness as before the change.
That said, the brighness does not stay at the requested value. It snaps back almost immediately back to 10 which is now kind of dark. The brighness applet does allow the setting to be changed.
Due to unreadable brightness status on collie - Needs to be fixed at kernel level
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I take it the same holds true for Poodle?


Why does it have to be fixed at kernel level? The brightness app works perfectly for OPIE with a sl 5500.
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: grog on May 31, 2005, 05:24:33 pm
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Yes, I found the same thing.  I thought maybe it had something to do with the wifi card being in.[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=81479\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
Even with the card in it wasn't like that for me under OPIE, but for the sake of arguement I just popped it out & will leave it on for a while & see what happens.

I'm just worried that this might be damaging my Z. A replacement would be quite some time away of that were to happen. [div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=81498\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
Just to touch base, this is definitely happening & is not just my imagination. And My Z's been on for a while now while I've been listening to mp3's with NO wireless card plugged in & it's still getting pretty warm.

Any other models experiencing the same, or is it just the 5600?
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: Penguin Man on June 07, 2005, 11:55:38 pm
I find that my 5500 is warm to the touch on the back when I'm sshing into it while it's in the cradle, but other than that it's fairly cool.  If it's out of the cradle, it never even feels warm.
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: Jcroto1 on June 08, 2005, 04:11:53 am
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I find that my 5500 is warm to the touch on the back when I'm sshing into it while it's in the cradle, but other than that it's fairly cool.  If it's out of the cradle, it never even feels warm.
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When the Zs plugged in or being charged it gets pretty warm.  So im assuming that your chargeing it in the cradle but not when you take it out?
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: grog on June 08, 2005, 11:02:14 am
Re: HOT Z's

I finally had to switch back to OPIE 'cause of this problem & the increased power drain (which might be related). I walk to & from work, which takes about an hour one way. Under OPIE + xmms I can listen to mp3's the whole time no prob & still have juice & a moderately cool Z when I arrive, while using GPE + gxine my Z got pretty darn warm & shut down on me on three separate occasions before the end of my walk, requiring me to recharge before it would power back on (which caused more than a little worry on my part... ).
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: Penguin Man on June 09, 2005, 01:00:57 am
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When the Zs plugged in or being charged it gets pretty warm.  So im assuming that your chargeing it in the cradle but not when you take it out?
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Yep.  I figured it was probably more due to the charging than anything.
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: weasel123 on June 09, 2005, 12:41:02 pm
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Re: HOT Z's

I finally had to switch back to OPIE 'cause of this problem & the increased power drain (which might be related). I walk to & from work, which takes about an hour one way. Under OPIE + xmms I can listen to mp3's the whole time no prob & still have juice & a moderately cool Z when I arrive, while using GPE + gxine my Z got pretty darn warm & shut down on me on three separate occasions before the end of my walk, requiring me to recharge before it would power back on (which caused more than a little worry on my part... ).
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When you are playing mp3's using gxine+gpe, how much cpu usage do you get, it shouldnt be more than 15%.
Even the zaurus sl5500 can play mp3's at 18% cpu, and oggs at 20% cpu, so you probably should check your cpu usage and see if it is within acceptable limits.
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: grog on June 09, 2005, 12:50:07 pm
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Re: HOT Z's
When you are playing mp3's using gxine+gpe, how much cpu usage do you get, it shouldnt be more than 15%.
Even the zaurus sl5500 can play mp3's at 18% cpu, and oggs at 20% cpu, so you probably should check your cpu usage and see if it is within acceptable limits.
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I didn't check that @ the time & I'm back on OPIE right now, but I did have to add a 32mb swap to even be able to run gxine, which shows it's a pretty intensive program to begin with.

However, I did notice the heat before using gxine, so I don't think it was exclusively releated to it. It's just that while using it did I run into the dead-Z problem which made me back away.
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: JohnX on June 09, 2005, 02:12:12 pm
I would be willing to wager a small amount that it's conencted to apmd being disabled on the Collie (5000D/5500/5500G) by default in OZ/GPE 3.5.3.  I notice the same thing under OPIE if I comment out the /dev/apm_bios in /etc/device_table.
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: cesarcardoso on October 13, 2005, 11:59:01 am
Hi all,

Just installed OZ/GPE 3.5.3. Lovin' it, feeling myself at home... maybe because I'm a near-die-hard GNOME user

Only a minor gripe on contacts: I can't tell a recurring event to happen, say, "at the first Monday of the month"...  

I'm migrating from PalmOS, is this way of migrating Calendar data (https://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=Migration_from_PalmOS#How_can_I_move_my_Address_book_from_the_Palm_to_the_us.3F) still valid on GPE?

Thank you, everybody in OZ and GPE scenes, for the great work!  
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: lardman on October 13, 2005, 12:28:20 pm
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I'm migrating from PalmOS, is this way of migrating Calendar data still valid on GPE?

I don't think so. I'm not sure whether vCal files are supported atm but you could try this page for some ideas: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/GpeSync (http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/GpeSync)

Otherwise, do ask in #gpe and someone more knowedgelable than me about the PIM stuff will be able to help you.


Si
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: skliarieh on November 19, 2005, 12:38:02 pm
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I would be willing to wager a small amount that it's conencted to apmd being disabled on the Collie (5000D/5500/5500G) by default in OZ/GPE 3.5.3.  I notice the same thing under OPIE if I comment out the /dev/apm_bios in /etc/device_table.
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I saw that under OZ/GPE 3.5.4RC on 5500 /dev/apm_bios is created by /etc/init.d/devices script and then deleted by GPE. This breaks suspend and reboot.
Is it done on purpose?
If I rerun /etc/init.d/devices script, suspend and reboot work.
How can I make GPE not to remove the file?
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: lardman on November 20, 2005, 06:04:41 am
This is probably not the desired behaviour, please post a bug about it.

Try grep'ing the rest of the /etc/init.d scripts and see if it's deleted there.


Si
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: Hrw on November 20, 2005, 11:25:40 am
thats hack from oz 3.5.3 times - later we fixed kernel APM problem so it is not needed anymore.

edit /etc/X11/Xserver and comment/remove two lines:
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rm -rf /dev/apm_bios
killall apmd
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: Firefighter03885 on April 03, 2006, 05:35:01 am
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Well, it was hanging often but it would come back after flipping the battery switch and rebooting, but now when rebooting it goes to the splash screen and then keeps showing an error message: "unable to open database /root/.gpe/categories" and the message keeps flashing on and off on the screen. I guess is back to the Sharp ROM again...

Felipe
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went looking for problem, and noticed that there was no .gpe directory in the root folder.  So I added one, and the OS automatically added the categories file.

Beau  
Title: Oz 3.5.3 Gpe-image
Post by: Firefighter03885 on April 03, 2006, 05:41:00 am
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Hey Guys,
i am testing the image now. It is now much more mature than the last time I tried. I have configured autologin as root, but I am always getting the error:
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unable to open database: /root/.gpe/categoriesAnyone a hint?
I get this error for example, when I try to start the calendar. Calendar does not start. Just the contacts can be launched, while I get that error there too. I did an ipkg update and ipkg upgrade, which upgraded from the upgrade feed. The upgrade went on smooth.
Cheers,
Sam
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When looking around as to the why of this, I noticed that there wasn't a .gpe directory in the root folder.  When I make one (mkdir) - note not visible after made but you can cd to it - the OS put in the categories file.  After that everything starts and runs!

Beau