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Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3
Post by: lardman on April 13, 2005, 10:27:51 am
Release notes:

======================================================

On behalf of the OpenEmbedded, OpenZaurus, Opie and GPE teams, I am proud to present to you the
third OpenZaurus release based on the BitBake build system and the OpenEmbedded metadata repository.

The highlights of this release are:

  o Linux Kernel 2.6.11 for Opie and Bootstrap images for C7x0
  o Updated many packages, and greater package selection
  o Changed ipkg destinations:
        Packages are now installed into a 'packages' subdirectory on external
        media. /etc/ipkg.conf can be altered if this behaviour is not desired
  o ipkg-link now reads /etc/ipkg.conf:
        No longer a need to edit ipkg-link when destination paths are changed
        in /etc/ipkg.conf
  o Corrected error in c7x0 fstab:
        Booting on a c7x0 with an SD or MMC card inserted should work correctly
  o Various corrections to keymaps for all machines have been made:
        More keys should function correctly
  o Suspend/resume issues on collie when using GPE have been fixed:
        collie now resumes correctly after suspending via the On/Off button
  o Improved SD and MMC card mounting:
        Cards with multiple partitions are supported and should mount
        correctly
  o Improved boot process:
        Less unintelligible messages during startup
  o oz-compat has been renamed to sharp-compat-libs
  o Many more improvements specifically in C7x0 and SL6000 support in Opie and GPE,
    see gpe.handhelds.org and opie.handhelds.org for details

This release supports the following Sharp Zaurus models:

5000,5500,5600,6000
B500
C700,C750,C760,C860

C3000 and C1000 support is under construction and scheduled for OpenZaurus 3.5.4. You can help to speed it up
by donating money and/or devices to our developers. Compare to other open source projects we receive
very few donations although we spend a lot of precious spare time and deliver a lot of good work. So if you
are regularly using OpenZaurus, consider to donate and visit http://openzaurus.org/web/index.php?option...id=16&Itemid=45 (http://openzaurus.org/web/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=16&Itemid=45)

See http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/changelog.txt (http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/changelog.txt) for an overwhelming list of changes since OpenZaurus 3.5.2.
See http://openembedded.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/O...rusReleaseNotes (http://openembedded.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/OpenZaurusReleaseNotes) for important notes _before_ you install OpenZaurus
3.5.3.
See http://openzaurus.org/web/index.php...id=70&Itemid=44 (http://openzaurus.org/web/index.php?option=com_content&task=category§ionid=3&id=70&Itemid=44) for
Installation instructions.

More information about the overall project status and roadmap can be found in the next edition of the
OOO Newsletter coming in May 2005.

Cheers,

Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
OpenZaurus ReleaseMeister

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Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3
Post by: cstrand1 on April 13, 2005, 12:43:04 pm
I just installed 3.5.3.  Very nice!

Kudos to you and all that worked on this version.

Chuck
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3
Post by: lardman on April 13, 2005, 04:42:12 pm
For the sl6000 (tosa) users out there:

The instructions on oz.org are wrong atm. So do the following instead:

in http://www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/sl6000/ (http://www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/sl6000/)

Rename the kernel, zImage-tosa-20050409225341.bin to zImage.bin

Choose one of the ROM images:

bootstrap-image-tosa-20050409225341.rootfs.jffs2
gpe-image-tosa-20050409225341.rootfs.jffs2
opie-image-tosa-20050409225341.rootfs.jffs2

Rename it to initrd.bin

Stick the initrd.bin, zImage.bin and updater.sh (from the above directory) on your CF card, then follow the instructions from step 7 (Connect AC adapter to your Zaurus SL-6000 handheld.)

Outdated instructions here (but you still need to follow the end of them):
http://openzaurus.org/web/index.php?option...id=32&Itemid=44 (http://openzaurus.org/web/index.php?option...id=32&Itemid=44)

Cheers,

Si
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3
Post by: woloi on April 13, 2005, 04:50:48 pm
Unless I'm a total idiot, WEP encrypted wireless is still broken.  I don't understand, I had it working perfectly fine with the pre3.5.3-gpe image, but it breaks with the 3.5.3-opie image?  That makes no sense.

I'm hoping someone can tell me I'm just a moron and typed something in wrong, because it'd be quite annoying to see a problem half fixed like that.

Also, without WEP wireless, OZ is useless for me, so if I sound a bit annoyed, that's why.
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3
Post by: lardman on April 13, 2005, 05:30:55 pm
Hmm, I think WEP is working for me atm with WinXP (3.5.3 GPE on C750).

Best start a new topic about it rather than clutter what ought to just be an announcement.


Si
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3
Post by: eonblueapocalypse on April 14, 2005, 11:14:14 am
/official/unstable/3.5.3/c7x0,c8x0/INSTALL
please correct the
"rename kernel image to 'zimage.bin'"
to
"rename kernel image to 'zImage.bin'"
which I think is the correct. If things are different here ignore my post and tel me to delete it
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3
Post by: lardman on April 14, 2005, 11:56:23 am
fat16 is not case sensitive - I don't think it matters what case the filename is in.

Si
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3
Post by: zaphod on April 14, 2005, 04:44:12 pm
I'm not trying to be mean or negative, but I thought "release" meant that a few people had tried things out and not found too many huge problems.  OZ 3.5.3 is not usable on my C750.

It appears that the package manager still has problems installing more that one or two packages at a time. It seg faults or crashes my C750.  Furthermore, I can't get it to install to SD.  I enter the a path (/media/card/packages) in the config dialog and update descriptions and when I try to install the only choice is still root (/).  Yes, my SD card was mounted.

There is something very odd with suspend.  Sometimes when the C750 wakes up I get an error about a very low battery. But the battery is almost fully charged.  Often, the C750 does not wake up and becomes unresponsive, requiring a reboot (battery removal).

Sometimes the C750 freezes solid when messing with the network config dialog.  I have a Netgear MA701 card.  Since the card is autodetected without a problem, I have stayed away from the Network config dialog.

Why aren't the default fonts a bit larger? Or at least there should be some larger fonts installed by default.  I use opie-reader a lot and it is painful even with the biggest preinstalled tiny fonts.

There is no obvious way to make the microscopic tray icons bigger.  It is just about impossible to
 tap the right one.
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3
Post by: henrysviper on April 14, 2005, 06:37:43 pm
I just switched to OZ3.5.3/GPE on C750.
Congratulations to everybody involved, OZ is very very nice.

I would like to ask: what is the reason that the GPE image ships with the 2.4 kernel while the other two ship with the 2.6 kernel? Can we expect an updated image with the new kernel, or this will have to wait until OZ 3.5.4?
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3
Post by: Mickeyl on April 14, 2005, 07:03:17 pm
X/GPE has problems with 2.6 - no idea about what exactly needs fixing. If you want to help, head over to #oe on irc.freenode.net.
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3
Post by: Mickeyl on April 14, 2005, 07:51:35 pm
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Why aren't the default fonts a bit larger? Or at least there should be some larger fonts installed by default. I use opie-reader a lot and it is painful even with the biggest preinstalled tiny fonts.

There is no obvious way to make the microscopic tray icons bigger. It is just about impossible to
tap the right one.

My fonts are pretty large as is my taskbar. Obviously you didn't want to waste your precious time reading the detailed release notes. Obviously I won't waste time to tell you how to fix it.
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3
Post by: Mickeyl on April 14, 2005, 07:51:55 pm
(removed double post)
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3
Post by: Jcroto1 on April 14, 2005, 10:07:21 pm
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Why aren't the default fonts a bit larger? Or at least there should be some larger fonts installed by default.  I use opie-reader a lot and it is painful even with the biggest preinstalled tiny fonts.

There is no obvious way to make the microscopic tray icons bigger.  It is just about impossible to
 tap the right one.
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I didn't see it in the release notes either, but I did see this post (just over half way down) whiched helped me.
[a href=\"https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=11929]https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=11929[/url]
Thanks for pointing that out for us Mickeyl!!!
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3
Post by: JohnKiniston on April 14, 2005, 11:58:08 pm
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My fonts are pretty large as is my taskbar. Obviously you didn't want to waste your precious time reading the detailed release notes. Obviously I won't waste time to tell you how to fix it.
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Mikey,

Where are the detailed relase notes?

I've found these for 3.5.1 on the OZ Site:

[a href=\"http://openzaurus.org/web/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=25&Itemid=44]http://openzaurus.org/web/index.php?option...id=25&Itemid=44[/url]

And these which mention 3.5.3 but do not contain anything about font sizes on the OpenEmbedded site:
http://openembedded.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/O...rusReleaseNotes (http://openembedded.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/OpenZaurusReleaseNotes)


Is there another set somewhere that I've not found a link to?
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3
Post by: adf on April 15, 2005, 02:01:19 am
re the zImage.bin / zimage.bin thing.

oddly enough, I couldn't flash the kernel from a fat16 cf using zImage.bin.
on renaming to zimage.bin (lowercase i ) it worked fine.
voodoo.

and..please.. no chorus of "..trust the documennntaaationnnn luuuuke......the wikkiiii is wiith youuuuu"
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3
Post by: gentoosiastix on April 15, 2005, 03:32:03 am
Greate work,

thx
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3
Post by: lardman on April 15, 2005, 05:02:13 am
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I'm not trying to be mean or negative, but I thought "release" meant that a few people had tried things out and not found too many huge problems. OZ 3.5.3 is not usable on my C750.

But it is on mine, and was too using Opie. Very odd.

Quote
It appears that the package manager still has problems installing more that one or two packages at a time. It seg faults or crashes my C750. Furthermore, I can't get it to install to SD. I enter the a path (/media/card/packages) in the config dialog and update descriptions and when I try to install the only choice is still root (/). Yes, my SD card was mounted.

I think there are still some issues with the GUI package manager.

Not sure about using the GUI app, as I never do, but I'd add your card entry to /etc/ipkg.conf as 'dest card /media/card/'.

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There is something very odd with suspend. Sometimes when the C750 wakes up I get an error about a very low battery. But the battery is almost fully charged. Often, the C750 does not wake up and becomes unresponsive, requiring a reboot (battery removal).

This is something which has just come to light - I presume you're using the 2.6 kernel? It would appear that if a CF card is mounted (or inserted - I need to do some more testing) when you stry to suspend, the Z doesn't actually suspend. More testing would be nice as this is just something I stumbled upon not so long ago.

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Sometimes the C750 freezes solid when messing with the network config dialog. I have a Netgear MA701 card. Since the card is autodetected without a problem, I have stayed away from the Network config dialog.

I've never seen this. Is it opie which is freezing or the whole thing?

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Why aren't the default fonts a bit larger? Or at least there should be some larger fonts installed by default. I use opie-reader a lot and it is painful even with the biggest preinstalled tiny fonts.

I thought they were reasonably large - I had 16pt (iirc) in the terminal which is pretty big.

Quote
There is no obvious way to make the microscopic tray icons bigger. It is just about impossible to
tap the right one.

I don't find them a problem - but yours is a valid point - add it to the bug tracker as a feature request - zooming taskbar, etc.


Si
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3
Post by: TimW on April 15, 2005, 06:24:58 am
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I don't find them a problem - but yours is a valid point - add it to the bug tracker as a feature request - zooming taskbar, etc.
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I think you can already zoom the taskbar, though not interactively. The size of the bar is set in (IIRC) qpe.conf. A quick disclaimer though, I haven't actually tried this yet as I haven't got around to getting 3.5.3 and even if I had I con't have a clamshell.
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3
Post by: hQuin on April 15, 2005, 09:38:37 am
Anyone know whether enlightenment is usable yet?  It looks like it requires X.  Should I start from the bootstrap image or from GPE?

harry

(Collie)
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3
Post by: hbo on April 16, 2005, 02:45:24 pm
Quote
Quote
My fonts are pretty large as is my taskbar. Obviously you didn't want to waste your precious time reading the detailed release notes. Obviously I won't waste time to tell you how to fix it.
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Mikey,

Where are the detailed relase notes?

I've found these for 3.5.1 on the OZ Site:

[a href=\"http://openzaurus.org/web/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=25&Itemid=44]http://openzaurus.org/web/index.php?option...id=25&Itemid=44[/url]

And these which mention 3.5.3 but do not contain anything about font sizes on the OpenEmbedded site:
http://openembedded.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/O...rusReleaseNotes (http://openembedded.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/OpenZaurusReleaseNotes)


Is there another set somewhere that I've not found a link to?
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He must be referring to this line, at the bottom of the referenced document, in the device specific section for the "clamshell" models:

Quote
the root directory for opie-image is /home/root/ now. It is useful to remove /home/root/Settings before installing to make sure you get the new configuration defaults

Of course, the font/taskbar size problem also applies to the 6000. It would be helpful to call this out, and perhaps to mention font problems as a key to users who may not be able to guess at the connection.

I could wish for a less arrogant attitude towards users, too. Basic civility would be served, but so would the cause of producing releases that are more oriented toward the user.
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3
Post by: lardman on April 17, 2005, 06:57:38 am
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I could wish for a less arrogant attitude towards users, too. Basic civility would be served, but so would the cause of producing releases that are more oriented toward the user.

The converse it also true, the initial post was not written in a very constructive way IMO, it sounded as if he was just complaining that we'd released software which he couldn't get working (without offering much by way of extra info to try to track down the problems, etc.).

We all do this for free - and assuming it works okay for us, the presumption is that it should work for others too - the only way to make OZ better is for our users to try it out and give helpful, constructive criticism (both about the software and the docs - clarity is one significant aspect of this, especially when it's users who are not as familiar with everything as we are).

So, please do sontinue sending bug reports (with useful info of course ), and suggestions/amendments to the docs, etc. (though in a different thread, as this is just the release announcement thread)

Regards,


Si
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3
Post by: w14 on April 17, 2005, 02:05:22 pm
The install instructions say:

NOTE: OpenZaurus does not work on models with repartioned space, i.e. if you have pdaXrom on, you need to repartion to the standard Sharp split _before_ installing OpenZaurus

I want to have a look and see how OZ is going, so I'm charging up the battery on the 700. Anyone know what the default flash partition is for the 700?

Thanks,

Mike.
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3
Post by: thechris on April 20, 2005, 01:36:33 am
so what should i be seeing when i install?  I'm a bit confused.  I get a CG Silicon "please wait for 30 seconds" to come up, but it never goes anywhere.  been there for about a half hour.  pda is cold possible inactive.
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3
Post by: adf on April 20, 2005, 03:08:36 pm
Yeah, I found it works best to flash back to "factory fresh" before flashing to OZ. (despite the risk of damage to the z)

You should see a gpe splash screen. It sounds like your kernel wasn't updated. That would work very very badly, at best.

make sure when you flash you see it update the kernel and the ro filesystem both.
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3
Post by: BeKind on April 22, 2005, 11:10:09 pm
Just wanted to say Great job Mickey and everyone else.  I feel like you really did a superb job of addressing all the bugs and problems I posted about 3.5.2, and this version is a big step.

Kudos!
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3
Post by: Mongoosefred on April 27, 2005, 05:15:42 am
Great work guys....  3.5.3. is great, looks really nice, great step forward.

Got two questions:
1. Anyone got Kaffee  working on a SL5500, seems to be a few things it needs missing from the feeds (I've added the machine specific feed).
2. When I install things to the SD card the Package Manager seems to have a real problem creating links for files.  It's ok if the folder already exists, but doesn't seem to be able to create new folders.  I've installed Opie-Symlink, which seems to have fixed alot of the problems.  If you manually create the links things work fine though...
-MF.
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3
Post by: nepo_m on June 25, 2005, 05:24:26 pm
Hello,

after the flash update with following files (of course all renamed according to instructions):

opie-image-akita-20050427214434.rootfs.img
zImage-akita-20050427214434.bin
updater.sh

Opie wouldn't start because of  problems with reading the libraries:

>>/opt/QtPalmtop/bin/qpe: error while loading shared libraries: libts-0.0.so.0:cannot open shared object file. No such file or directory.<<

I have read in this forum, some more experienced users as I am were able to update the Touch Screen libs / correct the paths around the qpe2 lib. Could somebody give me a hint were to start?

-Michael

SL-C1000 (Akita)
OpenZaurus 3.5.3-snapshot-20050427
SD SanDisk 1GB
Title: Openzaurus 3.5.3
Post by: jam13 on June 25, 2005, 06:15:30 pm
Quote
Hello,

after the flash update with following files (of course all renamed according to instructions):

opie-image-akita-20050427214434.rootfs.img
zImage-akita-20050427214434.bin
updater.sh

Opie wouldn't start because of  problems with reading the libraries:

>>/opt/QtPalmtop/bin/qpe: error while loading shared libraries: libts-0.0.so.0:cannot open shared object file. No such file or directory.<<

I recently installed 3.5.3 on my c1k and initially had problems with libraries not being found on boot. Turned out that the initrd was incomplete - the download had terminated early.

When I tried to download another copy it took me three attempts to get the whole file intact, so check the filesizes to be sure.

Once I got the entire file it booted straight in without a problem.

--
Jamie